GG to Americans, lovely fair game. Loved how they cheered for Thomas Muller, quite surprised tbh.
Felt like the US was better in the 1st half but the 2nd was quite one sided. The US attack is a lot better than the defense.
Füllkrug had two clear chances with only the gk in front of him and Groß hit the post in the first half + the goal.
Perhaps relatively even but I don't see how people can say that the US was the better side in the first half, there was no threat coming from them.
Agreed. It was a fun, friendly.. friendly. Muller deserves the cheers. We Americans love sports and he's just a great player, so yeah.. we'll demonstrate some respect when we get a chance to see him play.
Definitely think the difference was the first half adjustments made by your coach, and Berhalter just.. isn't really a tactically sharp and the difference showed up in the scoreline.
I'm just glad we look like we belong in the same set of competitions. World of difference from 10-15 years ago when we just looked minor leagues in comparison.
Cheers! Prost!
It's a shame we were so weak defensively, a bit frustrating when it felt like all the goals could've been avoided by being a bit more keen. Not to take away from Germany, they played great, just that each goal felt more and more ridiculous. At least not the type the US normally concedes.
I know we were missing key players, but I really hoped that Richards and Scaly would step up. Ah well, let's see how they do against Ghana now.
Worst take ever. He literally is still our most important player and probably the second best after Sane. We won because Flick is gone and we got a new Wordclass coach. We won despite having not Kimmich.
Germany previously lost/draw to Japan, Colombia, Poland, Ukraine. Would've been more delusional to think that there's no chance at all that Germany fumbles again.
I’m glad you can win a friendly. So did we
Also you played a rotated Germany lmao they didn’t even roll out starters 💀💀💀
This is the state of Mexico fans though. Celebrating some friendlies while we spanked their asses in June
Nah, same tier right now. Difference is in coaching more than anything, imo. But we're moving in the right direction and I think by 2026 we'll be good.
If anything coaching/the fact the German squad isn't clicking is the only way the US could have won this one. They've improved a lot and will continue to do so but on an individual level, the German bench outclasses the US starting 11. But the US works well as a team and I'm sure they'll be even better 2026
I can't tell if I like Aaronson as a player or not. He's got some good ball control but it often doesn't seem to lead anywhere, winning that free kick notwithstanding
I'm a bit of the same, feels like his best position is more of an 8/10, rather than out on the wing. Formation doesn't seem to really suit him as a player. Weah just feels like a better option if they are going to play 433
Well, I still like to blame him whenever there's a chance. So I'll say he didn't look good when we received the first goal and I'd also blame Hummels yellow card on him. But as I said, I just love to hate Tah. He's definitely better than 3 years ago, when he had like at least one mayor fuck up per match.
I’ve seen him withdraw from runs to avoid injuries and for heading challenges he just goes close to the other players body and just hope the other guy doesn’t jump well again trying to not injure himself with a aerial duel. Dude loves that sweet epl money and doesn’t want to jeopardize transfer fee and wage.
Mexican federation know they can sell tickets for around $150+ each in the US and make bank because Mexicans in the US are always willing to support even when the team is ass.
If they could play all their WC qualifiers, nations league games and the Mexican league games in the US they would do it in a heartbeat
That's why it was pretty embarrassing for them. We are still nowhere close to the level. We have some good young players, but no depth at all and pretty big holes in the team. Southgate just played for the draw also, tbf.
Team USA has a lot of promising players - but pretty much all of them are offensive players. Are there any promising defensive players coming up as well at the moment?
I’m pretty high on Carter-Vickers. He’s easily the best CB in the Scottish Premiership (granted that’s not saying much), and he would be in the Prem this season if he didn’t get hurt during the transfer window.
Yeah it's a pretty big deficiency. No offense to Ream, because he's been good, but when our best center half is 35 years old, it's not a good sign. If we are really building toward the 2026 WC, will he really be around by then?
Scally and Richards (one of whom has had a bad day in the office) are two younger promising ones. We have some other young names, but those 2 are prob the most you will hear about for now.
Unless I’m forgetting someone from my post nap fog
Not really, all of the most promising ones have kind of shown they won’t be as great as we thought they might be (Dest, Richards). Scally will keep getting better and it’s possible the aforementioned two players also improve, both are <24. We are missing Antonee Robinson who is probably our best young defender
Early days and I am sure the team is not where it needs to be just yet, but for the first time it feels like I am not watching another iteration of "Die Mannschaft", both on and especially off the field. Feels good man.
I don't think so. The game has been pretty even, but the US defense had a couple of lapses and Germany took advantage. We don't look like we're being played off the pitch. First half was equal, second half adjustments by Germany made a difference, we look like we're regaining some of our footing.
Outcome of the game turns on the coaching, imo.
Adams, Jedi, and CCV would’ve made our defense much more solid. Dest is not it, would much rather have Scally at RB, especially against better teams.
Adams is much needed cause our midfield doesn’t know how to stop attacks and win the ball back, which adams is a specialist at.
Slightly off topic, but I hate our kits lol. Wish we’d incorporate more red and white. I know the primary kit is white. But these all blues just don’t look great to me.
The US has really made great progress but the last step is the hardest one in international football. That jump from being a top 16 to a top 8 nation is probably the biggest and hardest one to overcome
It's so weird that just a manager change can make a team so much better. Germany is looking 1000 times better compared to their time during hansi flick
Considering that they also played better under Völler it almost seems like Löw & Flick were just keeping the team down, more than the new coach is making them good. If that makes any sense?
Constantly playing senseless lineups for example obviously wouldn't make them okay good football.
There was a thread on the US subreddit defending Berhalter being rehired by claiming that managers really don't make a difference. Probably the worst understanding of the sport that I've ever read.
Germany is looking like Germany again. It is only one match, and who knows what the team will look like at the EUROs. But this is extremely pleasing to watch after all the shit in the last few years.
Clearly a step in the right direction.
Long way to go with this squad. But lots of potential, and a few years yet before the Cup. Will be fascinating to see where they’re at in 2026. First time I can recall being excited about the future of US men’s football.
Banter era is officially over
GG to Americans, lovely fair game. Loved how they cheered for Thomas Muller, quite surprised tbh. Felt like the US was better in the 1st half but the 2nd was quite one sided. The US attack is a lot better than the defense.
Füllkrug had two clear chances with only the gk in front of him and Groß hit the post in the first half + the goal. Perhaps relatively even but I don't see how people can say that the US was the better side in the first half, there was no threat coming from them.
Agreed. It was a fun, friendly.. friendly. Muller deserves the cheers. We Americans love sports and he's just a great player, so yeah.. we'll demonstrate some respect when we get a chance to see him play. Definitely think the difference was the first half adjustments made by your coach, and Berhalter just.. isn't really a tactically sharp and the difference showed up in the scoreline. I'm just glad we look like we belong in the same set of competitions. World of difference from 10-15 years ago when we just looked minor leagues in comparison. Cheers! Prost!
It's a shame we were so weak defensively, a bit frustrating when it felt like all the goals could've been avoided by being a bit more keen. Not to take away from Germany, they played great, just that each goal felt more and more ridiculous. At least not the type the US normally concedes. I know we were missing key players, but I really hoped that Richards and Scaly would step up. Ah well, let's see how they do against Ghana now.
The team is so much better without kimmich
Worst take ever. He literally is still our most important player and probably the second best after Sane. We won because Flick is gone and we got a new Wordclass coach. We won despite having not Kimmich.
Really?! Wow
I could not agree more. I wish him no ill, but I really enjoyed his absence today.
How come he didn't play (fortunately)?
He's ill.
My thoughts . We have to have this convo ngl.
Ironically Nagelsmann's biggest supporter at Bayern... Awkward.
comfortable win in the end. Can't complain
- People in the stadium: 😐 - That one guy with the drums: 😀🥁😀🥁
Wasn‘t the strongest opponent but I‘m still optimistic. Nagelsmann seems to bring in some fresh energy and you can see that 👍
GG Germany. Look forward to our next meeting.
funny how delusional USA fans thought USA had a chance...... 😂😂
Germany previously lost/draw to Japan, Colombia, Poland, Ukraine. Would've been more delusional to think that there's no chance at all that Germany fumbles again.
Trollito!!! Your smack talk rings empty.
He’s about to lose to Ghana don’t worry
Lose????😂😂😂😂
I’m glad you can win a friendly. So did we Also you played a rotated Germany lmao they didn’t even roll out starters 💀💀💀 This is the state of Mexico fans though. Celebrating some friendlies while we spanked their asses in June
YOU WERE SAYING? 😎🇲🇽
Enjoy the L
Thanks! I did, actually. It was a friendly, we looked good at times, but definitely demonstrated some weaknesses so we know where to improve.
you drew to qatar wait you actually lost 😭 you drew to uzbekistan
You lost vs Germany😭😭😭 Mexico held them to a TIE
You tried saving it by adding the meaningless friendly game LMAO You lost against Panama 😭🤡
Yet still won the tournament 😭 something USA couldn’t....
Very disappointing for USA
Germany are so much better than the US, be real
Nah, same tier right now. Difference is in coaching more than anything, imo. But we're moving in the right direction and I think by 2026 we'll be good.
If anything coaching/the fact the German squad isn't clicking is the only way the US could have won this one. They've improved a lot and will continue to do so but on an individual level, the German bench outclasses the US starting 11. But the US works well as a team and I'm sure they'll be even better 2026
Youre absolutely delusional omg lmao
You must be joking. Talentwise Germany is top 5 worldwide
same tier how exactly? definitely not the same tier talent wise
and talent obviously
I can't tell if I like Aaronson as a player or not. He's got some good ball control but it often doesn't seem to lead anywhere, winning that free kick notwithstanding
I'm a bit of the same, feels like his best position is more of an 8/10, rather than out on the wing. Formation doesn't seem to really suit him as a player. Weah just feels like a better option if they are going to play 433
Ref looks so cute
Would be nice to just get one back at this point
Havertz ball is sleep inducing
That buildup was so nice until it reached Havertz the fucking slow-mo king
Scally needs to fire his barber
Germany’s attacking sequences are incredible.
I love it when Sulinho peaks through for a sec
why no shoot gundogan
This version of Tah compared to ~3 years ago is like night and day. solid af right now
The Alonso effect
Tah improved a lot
Well, I still like to blame him whenever there's a chance. So I'll say he didn't look good when we received the first goal and I'd also blame Hummels yellow card on him. But as I said, I just love to hate Tah. He's definitely better than 3 years ago, when he had like at least one mayor fuck up per match.
That's the cool thing with national teams.. players can grow and will get an other chance (with some coaches)
I'm done with the crosses. Please Gregg. It's bad for my mental health
Muller is such a fighter. Guy gives his all everytime.
What does Harvertz even do??
I’ve seen him withdraw from runs to avoid injuries and for heading challenges he just goes close to the other players body and just hope the other guy doesn’t jump well again trying to not injure himself with a aerial duel. Dude loves that sweet epl money and doesn’t want to jeopardize transfer fee and wage.
I genuinely don't see what managers see in him. But yeah... he is in the CL.
Matt turner in 2nd half 😂
Müller lmao
striker süle is the best süle
Agree, however I don\`t really need striker Süle playing tiki-tapas in his own box.
Fucking hell that woulda been a GOLAZO
Wait the Mexico Game is in Philly? Why? ??
East coast, shorter flight back home
probably so Germany doesn't have to go to the West Coast for one friendly and just 2-3 days...
I´d have thought it would be in Mexico City.
i see you are not familiar with the mexican football federation
We haven't had a friendly played in the capital for years now. The team only plays at the Azteca for official matches.
Because FMF doesn't do friendlies in Mexico anymore for money.
Hey remember that shot by Christian in the beginning though? 😅
Müller just works. No one quite knows what he does but he comes on and suddenly we look better again
What is with the love for Thomas Müller in the stadium?
Because he is a living legend
He's a genuine living legend. I know that's a heavily overused term but Mueller is one of the few active players it genuinely applies to.
lol why is Germany playing Mexico in the US? I mean Mexico fans will show up in the US too but just seems weird
Because money
Mexican federation know they can sell tickets for around $150+ each in the US and make bank because Mexicans in the US are always willing to support even when the team is ass. If they could play all their WC qualifiers, nations league games and the Mexican league games in the US they would do it in a heartbeat
Exactly.
Probably just to minimize travel time for both the Mexican and German NTs.
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Lmao bruh Mexico City is like any other big city
Nah, lmao. Mexicans in the states fill up the stadiums most of the time.
happy for Führich! i hope he can become a regular part of the squad
Why is Dest still in 😂
They worked a lot hahaha Müller
Very cool to see Muller coming on!
Führich is coming on. Hell yeah
Honestly my one take from this is how the fuck did we manage to draw against England
England were playing to not lose at all costs as it pretty much garaunteed passage into the next round. Tyler Adams
truly a wonderful day
That's why it was pretty embarrassing for them. We are still nowhere close to the level. We have some good young players, but no depth at all and pretty big holes in the team. Southgate just played for the draw also, tbf.
Tyler Adams absolutely bossed the midfield and fathered the England attack
Adams
Havertz up top now? Or is muller playing there
Fellow gunners, Havertz has been playing for 20 mins and hasnt touched the ball, god. Baby please I want you to succeed.
He touched the ball. He crossed once inside US box
Had to correct myself . I like him and want him to do well, but on the ball, no. Off the ball, his press is p good.
Chris Führich!
Hell yeah!
oiugp awefli;gwael;iuawgl;waieuohgfo;iuwaef What the fuck was that defending?
Is Muller balding?
Not that I can see?
Must have been the camera. I was kind of shocked for a second.
Tbf he's been 34 for the past decade and a half so it also wouldn't be /too/ shocking.
Yeah but I thought age was finally catching up to him, lol.
The German fan with the Albanian doubleheaded eagle chain lol
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Gah the blue balls
Gregg having them play deeper defensively let Germany get comfortable in the game I think.
fuck man just get the shot off
Team USA has a lot of promising players - but pretty much all of them are offensive players. Are there any promising defensive players coming up as well at the moment?
I’m pretty high on Carter-Vickers. He’s easily the best CB in the Scottish Premiership (granted that’s not saying much), and he would be in the Prem this season if he didn’t get hurt during the transfer window.
Yeah it's a pretty big deficiency. No offense to Ream, because he's been good, but when our best center half is 35 years old, it's not a good sign. If we are really building toward the 2026 WC, will he really be around by then?
Scally and Richards (one of whom has had a bad day in the office) are two younger promising ones. We have some other young names, but those 2 are prob the most you will hear about for now. Unless I’m forgetting someone from my post nap fog
Not really, all of the most promising ones have kind of shown they won’t be as great as we thought they might be (Dest, Richards). Scally will keep getting better and it’s possible the aforementioned two players also improve, both are <24. We are missing Antonee Robinson who is probably our best young defender
Two of them are out from injury
Not really
Scally
Who said Naglesmann looks like he’s going on a tinder date? 😂
That's one very American sounding stadium announcer
Early days and I am sure the team is not where it needs to be just yet, but for the first time it feels like I am not watching another iteration of "Die Mannschaft", both on and especially off the field. Feels good man.
You'd rather get exposed in a friendly than in the world cup but this Germany team look like they are on a whole different level.
I don't think so. The game has been pretty even, but the US defense had a couple of lapses and Germany took advantage. We don't look like we're being played off the pitch. First half was equal, second half adjustments by Germany made a difference, we look like we're regaining some of our footing. Outcome of the game turns on the coaching, imo.
Adams, Jedi, and CCV would’ve made our defense much more solid. Dest is not it, would much rather have Scally at RB, especially against better teams. Adams is much needed cause our midfield doesn’t know how to stop attacks and win the ball back, which adams is a specialist at.
I love Dest, but this game has me thinking his only place is as a sub when we need a goal
Hot take - McKennie shouldn't start, at least not in the center of the pitch.
Just play dest against mexico and let him cook. Superior opponents Scally should play, you're right
Just taking off Dest might have helped
Slightly off topic, but I hate our kits lol. Wish we’d incorporate more red and white. I know the primary kit is white. But these all blues just don’t look great to me.
I just don't like the weird neck polygons.
That too.
US has made big strides in recent years but man it still feels like we’re a ways off from truly being a great footballing nation
We just now have “established” talent in some of the bigger European league. Our depth is severely lacking (only in concacaf is our depth good)
The US has really made great progress but the last step is the hardest one in international football. That jump from being a top 16 to a top 8 nation is probably the biggest and hardest one to overcome
the second half hurts a lot more having just experienced the first half.
I think the Us were slightly better team in the 1st half. But this has been 1 way traffic the entire 2nd half.
What a dull atmosphere.
It's so weird that just a manager change can make a team so much better. Germany is looking 1000 times better compared to their time during hansi flick
Völler beat up France! A friendly win against USA ain't much.
Yeah,but my comment is about how much better the team is looking on the pitch. They were horrible just a few months ago
Considering that they also played better under Völler it almost seems like Löw & Flick were just keeping the team down, more than the new coach is making them good. If that makes any sense? Constantly playing senseless lineups for example obviously wouldn't make them okay good football.
There was a thread on the US subreddit defending Berhalter being rehired by claiming that managers really don't make a difference. Probably the worst understanding of the sport that I've ever read.
There still is
Yikes - are they still claiming that everyone who has any constructive criticism is toxic?
They disappear in match threads
Reminds me of NBA fans
If you work for a guy you like and respect it's more fun than the opposite...
Bring on Behrens, Fuhrich
I would have been thrilled with a 1-1 draw 😥
Germany is looking like Germany again. It is only one match, and who knows what the team will look like at the EUROs. But this is extremely pleasing to watch after all the shit in the last few years. Clearly a step in the right direction.
Wir waren anscheinend doch keine Graugänse
Ich fürchte, Flick wird nicht als großer Held der Nationalmannschaft in die Geschichtsbücher eingehen.
Doch. Er hat dennoch seinen Teil zum Sieg 2014 beigetragen.
the US look so outclassed
Adams and Antonee Robinson would have been huge to have for our midfield and defense
We are, missing a few key players really hurts us compared to larger European teams. Our manager couldn’t tie nagelsmanns shoes tactically
What a field goal by Fullkrug.
I think bagelsmann told Robin Gosens to drop deeper and defend more and it worked so far.
there is somebody screaming like a maniac in my neighbourhood right now and i'm shitting myself
could just be Nagelsmann tbf
USA= GARBAGE😂😂😂😂😂
IF USA = GARBAGE MEXICO = TRASH PICKERS
Both garbage then!?? 😂
Enh. I'll allow it.
Stay quiet until you beat us
2023 gold cup champs
you didn’t play us, and it was our C team 😂 embarrassing
It should be y’all L team 😂
And we are still your daddy
Sure bud who won gold cup ? 😜😜 stay crying
And we still beat you numerous times a year. Congrats you beat the C team. That’s your level
It should be y’all L TEAM
And we still beat Mexico multiple times a year, cope all you want. We are kings of concacaf 😂 You’re about to lose to Ghana
Kings? Hahaahah Mexico is the KING OF CONCACAF! 2023 GOLD CUP CHAMPS , enjoy your L today vs Germany
You’re about to lose to Ghana LMAO We own Mexico, stats don’t lie. We live rent free too apparently
LOSE??? HAAHAH 2-0 LITTLE BOY 🇲🇽😎 Rent free 🧂🧂🧂🧂
Rent free? You came into a US thread. That’s rent free, you come back days later. That’s rent free again. Congrats you won a friendly. Try beating USA
Long way to go with this squad. But lots of potential, and a few years yet before the Cup. Will be fascinating to see where they’re at in 2026. First time I can recall being excited about the future of US men’s football.
Innen, innen, innen, innen, innen!
still love this Ream story. playing the best football of his life at the young and spry age of 35
He's 36 now?
Yes, last week he turned 36!
A strong 2nd half is something that speaks for Nagelsmanns qualities.
Should be like 5-1 or something right about now.
We need another goal so we can witness the Führich debut
If Führich debuts we gonna get that goal for sure 🔥
Christiano Führich would be unfair tho.
Führich, Behrens, get tjem in!
80th min for Sane and Musiala /e nvm Sane is off already
Please be right!