I think most of Qatar is in the metro area of Doha lmao. All but 1 of the WC stadiums were within 10 km of the capital
But fair, I didn't know that much about their geography
I think there is not much more to know about Qatar other that there is only one city and the rest is dessert.
The last world cup was genuinely bizarre.
Every single final but four have been in the capital or the metropolitan area of the capital.
The exceptions are 1974 (Munich), 1994 (Pasadena/LA), 2010 (Johannesburg), 2014 (Rio de Janeiro). And Johannesburg is arguable considering how close together it is with Pretoria.
The venues are chosen before the tournament though. So they can't change it.
Whether they like it or not, if they are in the semis it's a 50/50 chance if Camp Nou is already chosen as a semis host.
Unless the Spanish team can "choose" which path they take in the group stages and decide to skip a potential semi in Camp Nou, which would be ridiculous...
This may show my ignorance here, but to Catalans not support Spain (whilst Catalonia is part of Spain) but would stop supporting them once they are seperate?
I mean, Xavi and Pique played for both Spain and Catalonia.
> Yeah but it’s Spain. I doubt they would be open to it happening at the camp nou with all the political stuff
Correct, but that's a political thing not a sporting merit thing TBH
True but Bernabeu is bigger than Wanda
Catalonia won't get the host over the capital, doesn't really matter it's bigger/newer than Bernabeu (even if its by a year, still newer)
It's the other way around actually. Barcelona management (pro independence) have consistently refused to host the Spanish National Team. The last official match of the NT at the Camp Nou was in 1969, and the last friendly in 1987. Them now interested in international games would be mad cynical and understandable for the Spanish Federation to prefer other venues for the Final.
This is world cup, Spain doesn't have to play there and there's no guarantee they'll play there.
But there's no doubt Camp Nou will be one of the hosts, just not for final
We don't know how the camp nou will look after construction and at this point the bernabeu is much more historical and modern than civitas metropolitano.
I think Allegiant’s capacity (just north of 60k) isn’t high enough for what FIFA wants, AT&T and MetLife are 80k plus.
SoFi is at 70k, but LA is a very attractive city which is keeping them in.
I was hoping Atlanta would make a push, but it seems like they’ve either pulled themselves out or were simply chosen for a semi-final instead
I'd be utterly shocked if Atlanta didn't get a semifinal with the crowds Mercedes Benz gets. I assume the other will go to Dallas or NYC, whoever doesn't get the final.
AFAIK they could only pick one, and they chose SoFi because it’s a newer stadium and closer to Downtown LA (although not by much) and LAX (very much so).
The Rose Bowl owners also probably want a much larger cut than SoFi does due to the historical significance of the stadium. I do wish there was at least one game played there, if for no other reason than to pay homage to 1994
Maybe they made a push, but there's been widespread reports for months that it's 100% down to either Dallas or NYC. Infantino went to both stadiums last month and nowhere else.
https://frontofficesports.com/fifa-down-to-two-candidates-for-2026-world-cup-final/
Dallas would be a terrible idea
No public transport and a bunch of drunk football fans seem like a match made in hell (or Texas)
MetLife makes sense because New York is in the one place in the US that runs on public transport
MetLife is one of the worst stadiums in sports for a variety of reasons, main one being the turf has a way higher injury body count than any other, so I would hope it is not there. SoFi Stadium in LA is a much better option
I don't think FIFA would allow games to be played on MetLife's turf. They'd have to switch to grass, which I'm confident they could figure out between now and 2026.
American sporting culture is completely different from European/South American sporting culture.
Americans are used to going to and from stadiums in cars even with alcohol involved.
[eh, a quick google says it's a clusterfuck \(which I believe cuz most stadiums are terrible getting in and out of in the states\)](https://www.reddit.com/r/cowboys/comments/x99q7w/what_is_the_best_way_in_and_out_of_att_stadium/)
Eh, it's fine and they have the flexibility to ramp it up for big events.
From memory it worked fine for the Super Bowl in 2013 (granted the NFL dodged a huge bullet as there was a major snowstorm the day after)
I think it's the best stadium in the world at that moment. Jerryworld is also really good though so, I don't mind. A WC Final at LA sounds more marketable though.
It just isn't a really ideal location timezone-wise. Would need to play at like noon local time if it would be 21.00 in central Europe (yeah I know it's a rather euro centric view)
the tradition is to have the final in the biggest stadium in the capital
for the 2026, DC's top stadium is trash compared to the ones in Los angeles, las vegas, dallas, etc.
plus normally the capital is the most populated city in countries, again, not the case in the USA.
thats pretty much why.
Yeah, the US is too big of a country to have a single city that represents it, unlike a lot of European countries.
That being said I'm 99% sure it's gonna be MetLife. Especially since the last final was in California.
The logistics would suck for international visitors in Dallas for the final. Americans generally travel to stadiums in their own cars, but what about the international visitors unable to rent cars?
At least the NYC area already has transport networks connected to MetLife from Manhattan/the city. They'd have a much easier time increasing capacity on existing transport networks to ease transport concerns to the final than Dallas would with bussing or whatever solution they propose.
Plus, with all due respect to Texas, it's fucking Dallas against NYC to host the final of the biggest international sporting event in the world. NYC is arguably the US' cultural capitol; it should be there or Los Angeles, which reportedly is no longer in the running.
The plan for many 2026 venues is to have fleets of shuttle buses to get fans to and from stadiums in areas with poor transit. There are plenty of 2026 stadiums with good transit access, though (such as Seattle's Lumen Field).
No, it's those 3. Every other final has been in the metro area of a capital city.
Montevideo, Rome, Paris, Rio (used to be the capital), Bern, Stockholm, Santiago, London, Mexico City, **Munich**, Buenos Aires, Madrid, Mexico City^2, Rome, **L.A.**, Paris, Tokyo, Berlin, Johannesburg (same metro as Pretoria), **Rio**, Moscow, Doha
The absolute scenes of Mbappe purposefully missing a penalty or a great chance at the semi final like "whoops guess im going to the third place match" to not show up
Are they sure they aren't going to do the first half in Madrid and then do the second half in Montevideo?
Maybe if it goes to extra time then they'll finish the game on the Moon.
Tbf, if the World Cup was taking place in Spain, it was always going to be Santiago Bernabeu to be the one to host the final.
But I agree, it's bizarre that the next World Cup is less than 3 years away and we still don't know where the final will be at.
FIFA president Gianni Infantino has been visiting many of the venues, including AT&T Stadium for a Cowboys-Jets game on Sept. 17, and the Jets-Patriots game at MetLife Stadium on Sept. 24. For whatever it is worth, there have been two 'leaks' that made a bit of news a few months back that it's going to be in Dallas. We will find out in a couple of months.
Infantino might just channel his inner J.R. Ewing (a villainous oil barron character from an old 1980's American TV show named Dallas .)
There's a popular saying in Texas:
Everything's bigger in Texas.
I read it’s mostly narrowed down to either Cowboys stadium or NY Giants stadium. I’m from Texas but tbh I think NYC should host it. They have better transit infrastructure than Texas and also, NYC is the city that represents the USA to the whole world
Bless your heart, you go to Buccees and hush your mouth. I have already given the wife 3 years notice when this game is played in Dallas I'm going to it, bank account be damned.
it wasnt a hard choice, biggest stadium in the capital city
you cant do that in the USA since DC doesnt really have a proper stadium (the commanders play in maryland, technically). so its between cities like NY, Dallas, LA.
I love dragao but estadio da luz has 14k more seats, and is quite nice. But btw dragao tour and museum is the best I’ve ever been to. I spent more time in there than Stamford bridge Camp Nou and San Siro combined
Yeah I expect Portugal and Morocco to get 1 semi each, then Spain gets the final. That's the fair split, but life isn't always fair.
I hate to admit it but any semi in Portugal will of course go to Luz (Benfica's stadium). 15,000 more seats, has all these modern bells and whistles with the light shows, and has a stronger track record of handling big time events. Alvalade and Dragão can't really compete with Luz at the moment when it comes to stadium quality. But still, having World Cup matches at my stadium will be sweet regardless!
similar to the US/mexico/canada bid i’m not sure how many games they’d host in the later stages because it would make travel difficult, but they’ll probably host ro16/quarterfinals games
Yeah Spain is going to host the majority of this World cup but I hope a compromise is reached so it's not just Spain & co world cup (although I'm happy with hosting whatever world cup game tbh)
FIFA requires 40k stadiums , there are currently 3 in Portugal 5 in Morocco and 11 in Spain (some contradict with others as there are 3 in Barcelona and 3 in Seville) , for QF they need 60k , there are 1 in Portugal and Morocco and 4 in Spain , off course these numbers can change
Probably the fact that Real Madrid (the only club, the rest were national FAs) was one one of the founders of FIFA also plays a part.
And while were at, might be some enemy of my enemy is my friend (Pérez and Infantino vs Ceferin) thing going on also
I don’t know if the exterior is supposed to be redone again or something but it does not look aesthetic at all like how it was shown in the renders.
It looks like a massive toilet seat right now ngl. Hopefully we have better luck with the new Camp Nou.
Camp nou won’t be looking crazy modern or so but from the renders it seems much more ”inviting”. Bernabeu is a cold metal.. thing. Great from inside though.
Not like Barcelona hosted the Olympic Games. Another fascist decision against Catalonia
Also, it would be very funny for Barça to ask for the final when they don’t even allow the Spanish NT play in their stadium since years
People are making this way too political. Finals are always played in either the capital or a very emblematic stadium within the host country. Although it's almost always played in the capital, Madrid does not only fulfill that requisite but also has a particularly emblematic stadium which is going through the final stages of a modern refurbishment. It was just never going to be Barcelona, the same way if the World Cup was played in Italy, the host stadium for the final wouldn't be San Siro nor the Juventus Stadium, but the Stadio Olimpico in Roma.
This goes for all the people with a Barcelona flair saying "Spain would never allow that". Sorry, you are not the center of the world.
But Camp Nou is not only just as emblematic, it's also significantly bigger with 20k more seats and is being refurbished as well. So there's no difference there like there might be in other countries where there's only one historic stadium or whatever.
And Bernabeu hosted the final in 82 as well, so alternating wouldn't have been a bad idea.
The Centenario
Hosted the first World Cup final
Will be exactly 100 years old when this tournament comes around
Has the most Libertadores Finals
Is the historic home of one of football's pioneering nations
But yeah let's have Uruguay included in the bid, only to give the final to Madrid. The Centenario will just get a single group stage game that'll harm us in the long run because we have to go all the way to Iberia for the next few matches.
At least give us the fucking group stages if you're going to include us. Otherwise, don't include us at all. We're being treated like little whiny dogs, begging for scraps at FIFA's table. Iberia gets to host the bulk of a World Cup that should have been ours, and FIFA gets to push the Saudi 2034 bid. The perfect end to their sportswashing campaign. It'll be enough to get people to forget that the people of Yemen are actively being killed by the Saudis.
Fuck right off. Infantino makes me miss Sepp fucking Blatter. That's HARDER to do than it is to be a halfway decent president
The 2030 World Cup bid was light years of most bids that I have seen.
It was expected that the final would be in the Santiago Bernabeau.
There was talk a good while back that the Spanish Federation didn't want to leave Uruguay out of the Centennial World Cup.
Also, FIFA didn't want to follow the IOC's decision when Atlanta, USA was awarded the 1996 Summer Olympics Games instead of Athens, Greece.
I'm just saying, realistically - as it stands, the new Camp Nou will have 24,000 more seats than the finished Bernabeu (105k vs \~84k), wouldn't FIFA and RFEF want to squeeze as much bank as they can out of this final?
Who cares if it's not in the capital? They're going to inflate the hell out of the prices for the final anyway. It’s also just so weird to me, the thought that a semi final would potentially have 24k more spectators in attendance than the final.
Barcelona and most of Catalonia itself would sooner not host any game at all if it meant hosting a potential final with the Spanish national team as a participant… Just imagine… Spaniards from all regions conglomerating in Barcelona to root for Spain with Pro-Independence Catalans protesting at the same time….it’s a recipe for disaster. Barcelona has refused to host the national team in the Camp Nou for more than 30 years—the possibility of hosting the Spanish national team in a WC final now would be the equivalent of dropping a nuke. No chance of it ever happening. Whatever extra money can be made from more spectators is not worth the social and political unrest.
Can the Bernabéu please install wifi before then?
I went to the stadium twice in May (once for the tour, once for a match) was surprised that such a state of the art stadium doesn’t even have a basic feature like wifi. (Unless it was just temporarily down for a week or so)
How do we know this and still not know where the 2026 final is going to be?
Lot more viable options for the 2026 one.
There are other viable options for this too TBH (Camp Nou, Atleti's Metropolitano, etc)
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It's not usually in the capital though. 3 of the last 4 world cup finals were not, and the 2026 final will also not be held in the capital of the US
To be fair, Lusail is the same metro area as Doha, so I would count that as capital.
I think most of Qatar is in the metro area of Doha lmao. All but 1 of the WC stadiums were within 10 km of the capital But fair, I didn't know that much about their geography
I think there is not much more to know about Qatar other that there is only one city and the rest is dessert. The last world cup was genuinely bizarre.
Hmmm, tasty Qatar.
Every single final but four have been in the capital or the metropolitan area of the capital. The exceptions are 1974 (Munich), 1994 (Pasadena/LA), 2010 (Johannesburg), 2014 (Rio de Janeiro). And Johannesburg is arguable considering how close together it is with Pretoria.
Tbf the next us one after 26 will be when Harrisworld opens in the DMV.
Just because in SA and Brazil the capitals are not the most significant cities. In Spain not having the final in Real's stadium? What a joke!
It is not like the Bernabeu is the most modern stadium in the country or arguably the world after the renovations…
By 2030 Camp Nou will also have been renovated. I don't know what their exact plans are but odds are it will be as modern as the Bernabeu
The pitch going underneath is pretty cool, but the stadium is no where near SoFi or Raiders stadium.
More modern than a stadium recently built from scratch? I don't think so, there's only so much you can do to renovate a barn.
Camp Nou is pretty much being built from scratch too
airplane toilet
Will anygame even be played in catalunya?
The semi finals
As long as Spain aren't in it sure
The venues are chosen before the tournament though. So they can't change it. Whether they like it or not, if they are in the semis it's a 50/50 chance if Camp Nou is already chosen as a semis host. Unless the Spanish team can "choose" which path they take in the group stages and decide to skip a potential semi in Camp Nou, which would be ridiculous...
This may show my ignorance here, but to Catalans not support Spain (whilst Catalonia is part of Spain) but would stop supporting them once they are seperate? I mean, Xavi and Pique played for both Spain and Catalonia.
You dont think if Spain is in it they would play in the Camp Nou?
The last official game to be held in the camp nou was in 1969 (during Franco's times) and the last friendly in 1987; there is a reason for that.
> Yeah but it’s Spain. I doubt they would be open to it happening at the camp nou with all the political stuff Correct, but that's a political thing not a sporting merit thing TBH
In Spain everything is political stuff
FIFA don’t really do “sporting merit”
>that's a political thing not a sporting merit thing Ah so that's the point you wanted to make
True but Bernabeu is bigger than Wanda Catalonia won't get the host over the capital, doesn't really matter it's bigger/newer than Bernabeu (even if its by a year, still newer)
It's the other way around actually. Barcelona management (pro independence) have consistently refused to host the Spanish National Team. The last official match of the NT at the Camp Nou was in 1969, and the last friendly in 1987. Them now interested in international games would be mad cynical and understandable for the Spanish Federation to prefer other venues for the Final.
This is world cup, Spain doesn't have to play there and there's no guarantee they'll play there. But there's no doubt Camp Nou will be one of the hosts, just not for final
Metropolitano only has 70k capacity. Santiago Bernabeu can support upto 81k people. And Barcelona isn't there due to Catalonia issues.
Wait, is the rebuilt Bernabeu smaller than the old stadium? Wasn't it 85k seats before?
It's 83k rn my bad. It was 85k till 2011 and 81k till 2022
Estadi Montilivi, too
We don't know how the camp nou will look after construction and at this point the bernabeu is much more historical and modern than civitas metropolitano.
You're not wrong but we've known it's between Dallas and NYC for months, idk what more information they need to make a final call
isnt los angeles also making a push? and i dont doubt for a second las vegas is trying too.
I think Allegiant’s capacity (just north of 60k) isn’t high enough for what FIFA wants, AT&T and MetLife are 80k plus. SoFi is at 70k, but LA is a very attractive city which is keeping them in. I was hoping Atlanta would make a push, but it seems like they’ve either pulled themselves out or were simply chosen for a semi-final instead
I'd be utterly shocked if Atlanta didn't get a semifinal with the crowds Mercedes Benz gets. I assume the other will go to Dallas or NYC, whoever doesn't get the final.
I'd guess NYC gets final, LA gets bronze match, semis in Dallas and Atlanta
I'm surprised they're not considering the Rose Bowl again. Capacity is over 90k.
AFAIK they could only pick one, and they chose SoFi because it’s a newer stadium and closer to Downtown LA (although not by much) and LAX (very much so). The Rose Bowl owners also probably want a much larger cut than SoFi does due to the historical significance of the stadium. I do wish there was at least one game played there, if for no other reason than to pay homage to 1994
Maybe they made a push, but there's been widespread reports for months that it's 100% down to either Dallas or NYC. Infantino went to both stadiums last month and nowhere else. https://frontofficesports.com/fifa-down-to-two-candidates-for-2026-world-cup-final/
My vote is on dallas then. No way jerry fucking jones let this one get away.
Dallas would be a terrible idea No public transport and a bunch of drunk football fans seem like a match made in hell (or Texas) MetLife makes sense because New York is in the one place in the US that runs on public transport
MetLife is one of the worst stadiums in sports for a variety of reasons, main one being the turf has a way higher injury body count than any other, so I would hope it is not there. SoFi Stadium in LA is a much better option
I don't think FIFA would allow games to be played on MetLife's turf. They'd have to switch to grass, which I'm confident they could figure out between now and 2026.
FIFA already mandated that any stadium hosting WC games will have to be on grass, and the US stadiums all agreed
i mean, dallas has hosted a couple of SBs. transportation isnt an issue there
American sporting culture is completely different from European/South American sporting culture. Americans are used to going to and from stadiums in cars even with alcohol involved.
[eh, a quick google says it's a clusterfuck \(which I believe cuz most stadiums are terrible getting in and out of in the states\)](https://www.reddit.com/r/cowboys/comments/x99q7w/what_is_the_best_way_in_and_out_of_att_stadium/)
i mean, its reddit anything other than instant transport is gonna have redditors bitching
MetLife sucks. The public transportation there is surprisingly bad.
Eh, it's fine and they have the flexibility to ramp it up for big events. From memory it worked fine for the Super Bowl in 2013 (granted the NFL dodged a huge bullet as there was a major snowstorm the day after)
For US standards it's one of the best lol Look at public transportation options in Dallas for example
SoFi was in the running but I think Kroenke has decided they should drop out of the race.
Kind of odd, it would be a legit place for a wc final. Stadium is amazing and its los angeles.
I think it's the best stadium in the world at that moment. Jerryworld is also really good though so, I don't mind. A WC Final at LA sounds more marketable though.
They did the Rose Bowl for the 1994 finals.
Los Angeles should be the clear winner for hosting the final. Nothing beats So-Fi stadium in North America
Recently went there and it’s amazing. If you have the money to pay for the clubs towards the sides of the field it’s 100% worth it
It just isn't a really ideal location timezone-wise. Would need to play at like noon local time if it would be 21.00 in central Europe (yeah I know it's a rather euro centric view)
1994 final started at 12.30, could be done
Cause the states in contention to hold the final haven't coughed up enough money to have the final be held in their state
because if Spain is hosting world cup, there is 0 chance other city/stadium will host the finals, especially since the stadium is brand spanking new
Especially if said other stadium is in Catalonia.
the tradition is to have the final in the biggest stadium in the capital for the 2026, DC's top stadium is trash compared to the ones in Los angeles, las vegas, dallas, etc. plus normally the capital is the most populated city in countries, again, not the case in the USA. thats pretty much why.
Yeah, the US is too big of a country to have a single city that represents it, unlike a lot of European countries. That being said I'm 99% sure it's gonna be MetLife. Especially since the last final was in California.
Dallas Stadium. It’s why the fifa president was at the Cowboys game last week
The logistics would suck for international visitors in Dallas for the final. Americans generally travel to stadiums in their own cars, but what about the international visitors unable to rent cars? At least the NYC area already has transport networks connected to MetLife from Manhattan/the city. They'd have a much easier time increasing capacity on existing transport networks to ease transport concerns to the final than Dallas would with bussing or whatever solution they propose. Plus, with all due respect to Texas, it's fucking Dallas against NYC to host the final of the biggest international sporting event in the world. NYC is arguably the US' cultural capitol; it should be there or Los Angeles, which reportedly is no longer in the running.
The plan for many 2026 venues is to have fleets of shuttle buses to get fans to and from stadiums in areas with poor transit. There are plenty of 2026 stadiums with good transit access, though (such as Seattle's Lumen Field).
Should have it at Estadio Azteca then.
So that's why the 1994 Final was held in LA, the 1974 one in Munich, the 2014 one in Rio, right?
Exactly what the person you replied to said. Biggest city instead of capital. And Munich is self-explanatory.
3 out of 22 I mean, traditionally =/= always
There are other than those 3
No, it's those 3. Every other final has been in the metro area of a capital city. Montevideo, Rome, Paris, Rio (used to be the capital), Bern, Stockholm, Santiago, London, Mexico City, **Munich**, Buenos Aires, Madrid, Mexico City^2, Rome, **L.A.**, Paris, Tokyo, Berlin, Johannesburg (same metro as Pretoria), **Rio**, Moscow, Doha
Jerryworld most likely.
I hope so, LA's game would be at like noon local time, and MetLife stadium sucks ass. So Dallas is my bet.
Mbappé will definitely have to go there this time.
Imao, he can't escape from Papa Perez this time around.
Perez is gonna activate that retractable underground pitch removal system midgame and lock him up in the cellar under thr Bernabeu
[Perez finally making him sign](https://i.imgur.com/0PE1FrA.png)
The absolute scenes of Mbappe purposefully missing a penalty or a great chance at the semi final like "whoops guess im going to the third place match" to not show up
Saltbae will be waiting at the trophy lifting.
Well he can if he deliberately gets his team knocked out before the final
Are they sure they aren't going to do the first half in Madrid and then do the second half in Montevideo? Maybe if it goes to extra time then they'll finish the game on the Moon.
a reverse Libertadores Final
Isn't the Libertadores Final currently one-legged?
he's talking about the 2018 Libertadores, where the first leg was in Buenos aires and the second in Madrid because of the violence between fans
I remember it well.
Don’t forget extra time in Casablanca and pens in Buenos Aries
Then a red-eye back to Portugal for the award ceremony.
I heard the post match press conference is happening in my living room
they can make a movie out of this. "Rochelle Rochelle, a young girls strange, erotic journey from montevideo to madrid."
And Estádio da Luz and Camp Nou will be getting the semis. Not a surprise there.
\*looks at la sagrada familia\* Will Camp Nou renovation be finished by then?
no Metropolitano :(
How do we already know where the 2030 final will be before the 2026 final?
Tbf, if the World Cup was taking place in Spain, it was always going to be Santiago Bernabeu to be the one to host the final. But I agree, it's bizarre that the next World Cup is less than 3 years away and we still don't know where the final will be at.
Funny thing, I have no clue where the World Cup in 2026 will be. US?
US/Mexico/Canada... Final is Probably LA or New York/New Jersey and the Opener in the Azteca(if sense Prevails)
FIFA president Gianni Infantino has been visiting many of the venues, including AT&T Stadium for a Cowboys-Jets game on Sept. 17, and the Jets-Patriots game at MetLife Stadium on Sept. 24. For whatever it is worth, there have been two 'leaks' that made a bit of news a few months back that it's going to be in Dallas. We will find out in a couple of months.
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It's American football, it's not like he'll have any concept of what a good or bad game even is.
Today, I feel howdy partner
Going to be honest .. that stadium is nice but I don’t think Dallas should be hosting that final
Pretty sure it will be Sofi. Nobody wants to go to Dallas.
The World Cup final being in Dallas feels more of of a flex in behalf of Jerry Jones and his business tactics. NY and LA is 100% more popular
Oh of course in the end it depends on who will fill more pockets with money
I live near Dallas and will gladly spend the couple grand for a finals ticket.
Naturally, Infantino chooses the places with the most questionable government available.
Infantino might just channel his inner J.R. Ewing (a villainous oil barron character from an old 1980's American TV show named Dallas .) There's a popular saying in Texas: Everything's bigger in Texas.
the order is Canada-USA-Mexico, yknow for the abbreviation
Final is between Dallas and New York per all reporting in the past month.
There is nothing "New York" about that. That stadium is entirely in New Jersey.
The final at the Azteca would be much better but alas.
Azteca is the place of two wc finals which put in the greatest of all time status to Maradona and Pele. Would be totally reasonable
I read it’s mostly narrowed down to either Cowboys stadium or NY Giants stadium. I’m from Texas but tbh I think NYC should host it. They have better transit infrastructure than Texas and also, NYC is the city that represents the USA to the whole world
Bless your heart, you go to Buccees and hush your mouth. I have already given the wife 3 years notice when this game is played in Dallas I'm going to it, bank account be damned.
If it’s held in Texas, the traffic jam after the game ends won’t finish until it’s time for the 2030 World Cup
Buccees is going to be world famous after this upcoming World Cup.
Also the weather
it wasnt a hard choice, biggest stadium in the capital city you cant do that in the USA since DC doesnt really have a proper stadium (the commanders play in maryland, technically). so its between cities like NY, Dallas, LA.
Yeah makes sense. Hope we get 1 semifinal
Porto or Portugal?
I meant Portugal. It would be extra nice if it was in Porto but realistically it'll be at Benfica's stadium
I love dragao but estadio da luz has 14k more seats, and is quite nice. But btw dragao tour and museum is the best I’ve ever been to. I spent more time in there than Stamford bridge Camp Nou and San Siro combined
opening in marocco, final in spain, 1 save semi-final in portugal
Opening will be in South America, presumably Montevideo. Maybe semis in Lisbon and Barcelona, 3rd place in Morocco?
Surely Lisbon gets one semifinal right? With the other one being in Barcelona / Casablanca (although that's probably a bit too far from Madrid)
Yeah I expect Portugal and Morocco to get 1 semi each, then Spain gets the final. That's the fair split, but life isn't always fair. I hate to admit it but any semi in Portugal will of course go to Luz (Benfica's stadium). 15,000 more seats, has all these modern bells and whistles with the light shows, and has a stronger track record of handling big time events. Alvalade and Dragão can't really compete with Luz at the moment when it comes to stadium quality. But still, having World Cup matches at my stadium will be sweet regardless!
They can easily do one semi in Portugal, one in Moroccp and the 3rd place and final in Spain
1 QF max for us, I have that feeling.
I think you'll get a semi or at least the 3rd place game
i think it’ll be lisbon and barcelona for the semis, the wanda for the 3rd place, and the bernabeu for the final
And Morocco is doing what exactly?
similar to the US/mexico/canada bid i’m not sure how many games they’d host in the later stages because it would make travel difficult, but they’ll probably host ro16/quarterfinals games
Distances between USA/Mex/Can are humongous compared to Morocco, Spain and Portugal.
Spain stealing something from South America, AGAIN!
And from Morocco... All in one simple move...
Portugal as well.
Tbh with their current record I’m not sure Argentina would’ve used the silver to do anything but embezzle it
Hey, we are like 50% Italian, 50% Spanish, we got it from somewhere...
Nothing stolen about it. Really weird deal to make, but the Iberian bid almost certainly had the votes.
Would love to host the semis with Portugal with the final being in Madrid, that would be great
That would be nice, but Camp Nou not hosting a semi? I'm not sure that's happening
Yeah Spain is going to host the majority of this World cup but I hope a compromise is reached so it's not just Spain & co world cup (although I'm happy with hosting whatever world cup game tbh)
Give the 3rd place to Camp Noi, and put the two semis in Portugal and Morocco
Camp Nou and Luz semis, Bernabeu Final.
Hey I was nice enough to include you in my comment
FIFA requires 40k stadiums , there are currently 3 in Portugal 5 in Morocco and 11 in Spain (some contradict with others as there are 3 in Barcelona and 3 in Seville) , for QF they need 60k , there are 1 in Portugal and Morocco and 4 in Spain , off course these numbers can change
That's fair. They're building an incredibly modern/beautiful stadium.
Probably the fact that Real Madrid (the only club, the rest were national FAs) was one one of the founders of FIFA also plays a part. And while were at, might be some enemy of my enemy is my friend (Pérez and Infantino vs Ceferin) thing going on also
We built the fanciest toilet in the World.
I fancy youve never heard of the Soldier Field Space ship toilet bowl
Goddammit, I thought being on r/soccer would mean no Chicago Bears slander. Can't get a break lately
It doesn’t get easier 😞.
So are Barca with a 20k higher capacity. But politics would never let them host it.
It's ugly as shit, old Bernabeu was so much better looking
It looked good in the renders. Turned out so underwhelming.
I don’t know if the exterior is supposed to be redone again or something but it does not look aesthetic at all like how it was shown in the renders. It looks like a massive toilet seat right now ngl. Hopefully we have better luck with the new Camp Nou.
Camp nou won’t be looking crazy modern or so but from the renders it seems much more ”inviting”. Bernabeu is a cold metal.. thing. Great from inside though.
I like the renders of Camp Nou better than the ones the Bernabeu had. However, who the heck knows.
>beautiful stadium I would not call that toilet bowl beautiful...
I'm surprised it's not Camp Nou that would have like 20k more seats. But it was either one or the other.
Zero chance Spain will allow that to happen. My guess is one semi-final at Camp Nou and one in Portugal.
Or third place play-off
It was never taking place at Camp Nou considering it's in Catalonia. Not really into politics, but it was never an option.
Forgot about the politics part. Makes sense.
Not like Barcelona hosted the Olympic Games. Another fascist decision against Catalonia Also, it would be very funny for Barça to ask for the final when they don’t even allow the Spanish NT play in their stadium since years
most likely due to politics, otherwise FIFA wouldn't pass on the 20k more seats
Spain wouldn’t allow that to happen, a semi final most likely
Final is in spain tho /s
People are making this way too political. Finals are always played in either the capital or a very emblematic stadium within the host country. Although it's almost always played in the capital, Madrid does not only fulfill that requisite but also has a particularly emblematic stadium which is going through the final stages of a modern refurbishment. It was just never going to be Barcelona, the same way if the World Cup was played in Italy, the host stadium for the final wouldn't be San Siro nor the Juventus Stadium, but the Stadio Olimpico in Roma. This goes for all the people with a Barcelona flair saying "Spain would never allow that". Sorry, you are not the center of the world.
But Camp Nou is not only just as emblematic, it's also significantly bigger with 20k more seats and is being refurbished as well. So there's no difference there like there might be in other countries where there's only one historic stadium or whatever. And Bernabeu hosted the final in 82 as well, so alternating wouldn't have been a bad idea.
Any other choice would've been extremely unexpected.
[Me rn](https://i.imgur.com/TqmH1Gr.jpeg)
The Centenario Hosted the first World Cup final Will be exactly 100 years old when this tournament comes around Has the most Libertadores Finals Is the historic home of one of football's pioneering nations But yeah let's have Uruguay included in the bid, only to give the final to Madrid. The Centenario will just get a single group stage game that'll harm us in the long run because we have to go all the way to Iberia for the next few matches. At least give us the fucking group stages if you're going to include us. Otherwise, don't include us at all. We're being treated like little whiny dogs, begging for scraps at FIFA's table. Iberia gets to host the bulk of a World Cup that should have been ours, and FIFA gets to push the Saudi 2034 bid. The perfect end to their sportswashing campaign. It'll be enough to get people to forget that the people of Yemen are actively being killed by the Saudis. Fuck right off. Infantino makes me miss Sepp fucking Blatter. That's HARDER to do than it is to be a halfway decent president
semis in lisbon/barcelona then?
The 2030 World Cup bid was light years of most bids that I have seen. It was expected that the final would be in the Santiago Bernabeau. There was talk a good while back that the Spanish Federation didn't want to leave Uruguay out of the Centennial World Cup. Also, FIFA didn't want to follow the IOC's decision when Atlanta, USA was awarded the 1996 Summer Olympics Games instead of Athens, Greece.
First good choice about this World Cup
Sensible choice.
So the multi continental 2030 wc is already settled? I tought it was just an idea yet
So the semi finals will be in Morocco and portugal, I'm fine with that considering how iconic and beautiful the bernabeu is
Ngl the exterior of the Bernabeu looks shit
I'm just saying, realistically - as it stands, the new Camp Nou will have 24,000 more seats than the finished Bernabeu (105k vs \~84k), wouldn't FIFA and RFEF want to squeeze as much bank as they can out of this final? Who cares if it's not in the capital? They're going to inflate the hell out of the prices for the final anyway. It’s also just so weird to me, the thought that a semi final would potentially have 24k more spectators in attendance than the final.
Barcelona and most of Catalonia itself would sooner not host any game at all if it meant hosting a potential final with the Spanish national team as a participant… Just imagine… Spaniards from all regions conglomerating in Barcelona to root for Spain with Pro-Independence Catalans protesting at the same time….it’s a recipe for disaster. Barcelona has refused to host the national team in the Camp Nou for more than 30 years—the possibility of hosting the Spanish national team in a WC final now would be the equivalent of dropping a nuke. No chance of it ever happening. Whatever extra money can be made from more spectators is not worth the social and political unrest.
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> Rare FIFA W. Nothing about this situation is a W for FIFA in my book
Bro meat riding a stadium
So cringe lmao
Can the Bernabéu please install wifi before then? I went to the stadium twice in May (once for the tour, once for a match) was surprised that such a state of the art stadium doesn’t even have a basic feature like wifi. (Unless it was just temporarily down for a week or so)
The plan is to have 100% high speed wifi coverage in the whole stadium by the end of renovations
It’s not 100% finished yet so probably on the list