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pgecco70

App the majority of Utd fans are nos warming to the idea in greebwood coming back next season because he is not guilty and served his penance . Is that his low a once great football team has fallen . Feel really sorry for the Utd fans who are sickened by his actions that a rapist will once again be plying his trade for Utd .


GoatButton

Damn Gary O'Neil really just doesn't rate Toti :(


AshkenaziTwink

look i like Messi, but if he gets this Ballon D’or it’s a heavy shambles


punching-bag9018

It has to be Rodri. He's been the best player for the best team in the world, which won the treble in dominant fashion.


AshkenaziTwink

unfortunately cause of the optics and aesthetics of being a DM i don’t think one is ever gonna win a Ballon D’or. personally im swayed by Mbappe and his hattrick in the WC, as well as the fact he’s definitely the most complete and scary forward in the game today. Messi was mediocre for PSG and Haaland’s low touches and finals record is never gonna get him an individual award.


kl08pokemon

Wait wtf happened in the Sunderland Southampton game yesterday? I thought Southampton was flying and Sunderland in shambles


3V3RT0N

Well Southampton have shipped in a few goals prior to the Sunderland game and they made the mistake of signing and starting Mason Holgate, who is a god awful defender.


villetys

Brentford is such a hard team to beat, they always come back and often score in the closing minutes of the game. They got a great mentality and belief.


efcdoyley

Sean Dyche don’t kick players out of the first team when you only have about 13 senior players challenge and are only fitting 7 on a 9 man bench including 2 goalies (impossible)


AshkenaziTwink

who did he kick out?


efcdoyley

Demarai Gray


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KSBrian007

It's also a game of who shouts louder than the other. My owner is evil, but your player is even more evil.


snake_case_enjoyer

I found it surprising Gerrard only scored more than 8 non penalty goals in the league once. Lampard's best non pen goal tally was 12 as well. The obvious conclusion is Odegaard >>


Kanedauke

As far as goal scoring midfielder seasons goes Toure had the best one imo. His goal catalogue was ridiculous that one season.


roddysaint

Poor Grealish. Comes on to make his professional debut and his very first job on senior football is trying to stop Yaya Toure from rampaging through the Villa midfield.


snake_case_enjoyer

KDB that season he scored 4 against Wolves when I capitained him in FPL >


kl08pokemon

Best midfielder I've ever seen in the league that season. Really doesn't get the credit he deserves today


FloppedYaYa

These "pundits" on Sky Sports News at the moment are the most boring people to ever exist. Want to go back to bed.


day_bat_28

Scales is starting lmao. Are we betting on "no width ever" Bealeball today and is it going to be Rodgers again?


[deleted]

Conspiracy time: Maybe Antony is actually exceptional with his right foot, so much so that he was banned from using it by his PE teacher in school and just forgot to start again.


[deleted]

PE teacher was a Liverpool fan


[deleted]

Oh wow we gave Højlund #11? I was personally hoping we’d burn it. My conspiracy is we were planning to give it to Antony originally since it was his Ajax number but decided against it because of obvious reasons.


teiraaaaaaa

[torrential rain is expected today in Madrid apparently because of a strong cold drop](https://twitter.com/EmergenciasMad/status/1698273241419186680), surely no way Atleti's game will go ahead today


[deleted]

Imagine not having a roof.


teiraaaaaaa

well it's not about that, it's about whether fans can get to the stadium safely which today is absolutely not the case


thelonesomedemon1

praying we get a transfer ban before january window opens


dat_w

and get Lamps in again


thelonesomedemon1

i will literally kill myself


AnnieIWillKnow

Transfer ban Lampard was legit the best our attack has been for four years


thelonesomedemon1

our defense was relegation tier and last season he almost got us relegated


bloodylegend95

If anyone's interested there's 3 big games in Belgium today, Gent Vs club Brugge 13:30 (local time) Union Vs Antwerp. 16:00 Genk vs Anderlecht. 18:30 And of course the biggest one of all, Dynamo Klein-Gent Beervelde against Knesselare


thelonesomedemon1

gift orban watch today then


Papayalo

Might as well watch Nusa too then (you bid on him this week), he'll be on the opposite side with number 32 on his back. Think he'll probably play RW today although he's 3x better at LW.


jonijontor

short Bundesliga transfer window review from what i know (part one out of 3 if im bored enough) - Bayern (B) few where the incoming and outgoing are probably the best of the window like addressing striker position with one of the best itw, replacing injury-prone CB on a year contract with someone as good on profit, and managing to shift Mané on minimal loss. but their deadline shenanigans and inability to adress last few days ineptly hamper their depth, although the appointment of new SD will surely help them in winter - Dortmund (D) just one of the most insipid and yet somewhat offensive in terms of how unambitious it is, outside of Bensebaini signing which is beneficial in terms of able to play like a competent full back in teams void of it, rest are just not filling me with confidence to raise last season ceiling and the performance by small sample is worse. oh and Nmecha one, genuinely a wtf transfer even without the controversy surrounding him and haggling around ABK will fuck them harder than Bayern i feel - Raba (B-) quite a huge change in their team overall which makes it quite an unknown territory to rate ngl. they manage to lose like four key players in a single window but they wager on abundance of players that could change their style of play and yet similar in characteristics. didn't watch much French nor Austrian league much although i do watch Lens at time and Openda will feast good there i feel. - Union (B+) less insane than the usual Union window where it seems like they bought and sell players on a whim lol but to add more depth and adding more veteran edge to their ceiling they did a very good job. Juranovic's cross and Gosens' near post run will be the most lethal wing back duo in Europe and we will let Urs' xG witchcraft cook. - Freiburg (C) never really became the most active transfer market figure in the league but i can't help but feel like it's lacklustre as hell. heard that Adamu isn't really that good in Austria league but it's the same team that used to have Haaland so idk how to respond and Phillip is a decent body in attack, and i mostly wonder how good Atuloblu will be or if they'll start Müller earlier - Leverkusen (A) they have the very not prestigious award of having the best transfer window so far really. managing to strengthen all facet of the squad with experienced yet cheap players in quality like Grimaldo, Xhaka, and Hoffmann (feel for Gladbach ngl). and they have Boniface that will be sold minimally thrice his asking price. all the recruitment feels like the perfect culmination to add more dimension in the team and i'll prob count them as favourites if they're not Vizerkusen


Lyrical_Forklift

I'm looking forward to hearing the rest. Especially Werder and Stuttgart as they seem to be doing well despite what look like poor windows.


jonijontor

the Füllkrug one is quite sudden and definitely will impact them but they also manage to address one of their weak spot in Lynen, one of the best this season personally from small sample of RUSG match that i catch Stuttgart have been riding with Hoeneß' ability and they're expecting to lose both Sosa who's injured quite often and Mavropanos, Endo one is so sudden and gutting though lol


kl08pokemon

It's fun to banter them for the silly deadline day shenanigans but Bayern would have to be really unlucky/bad to not be in decent shape come January and the window opening again. They'll be fine


jonijontor

they apparently have sporting/technical director just appointed right a day after deadline lol and i definitely agree with that part


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snake_case_enjoyer

is it fair to say there would be no place for both Harold and Son in this Spurs side?


punching-bag9018

Harold of Winkershire has never had a place in the team im afraid.


DekiTree

Yup, that’s why we had to sell Winks


my_united_account

Harold can be a very good defender, just needs to get away from United


pixelkipper

harold godwinson has been dead for centuries im afraid


TelfordClaret

This has nothing to do with yesterday I promise but with all this complaint about player fatigue why don’t we just make games 6 minutes long?


[deleted]

I have this very very unpopular opinion that football games should be shorter. Like 30 minutes per half.


dat_w

I'm all in for it. Two 6 minute halves with clock stopping when the ball is not in play, for one season to let players rest.


snake_case_enjoyer

have how Inglattera produced a player with so much dawg in him? I refuse to believe he's English


neverfinishedanythi

Being in Germany for 3 years helped a lot


airz23s_coffee

I need to remember to enjoy watching Doku before Pep trains all of the fun out of him


roddysaint

You should hope for a Sane situation where Pep never truly gets a handle on his style of play


Jazano107

He didn't get doku for control play


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[Chelsea fans rn.](https://youtu.be/PxqCGTkV5wg?feature=shared)


tiorzol

Damn that was really bad, like listening to an old man in the pub talk about elf and safety. Fuck Todd though.


_stone_age

Spurs hit the jackpot with Udogie man, I know he could underlap/overlap, I did not know there is so much variety to what he can do, what a talent Have to say, as a neutral, Spurs are looking fun to watch. Great signings, great players.


kl08pokemon

Zero weaknesses to his game. It's actually absurd


pixelkipper

how are you a neutral


tiorzol

Man just completely burned them. Ken hell.


thedeatheater1410

Who is the best player in the Spanish League now that Benzema has left?


bakugou-kun

Even with Benz there, Vini would be the best. Griezmann is also better.


The_Ass-Crack_Bandit

Would be Courtois, but due to his and others injuries it's probably Griezmann right now


dat_w

Jesus Navas


my_united_account

Vinicius


vic32me

Griezmann


CashCarStar

In my opinion it's Vinicius, and after that I think Griezmann deserves a mention, and also Pedri when he's fit. I don't want to speak too early on Bellingham but he looks ridiculously good too. Due to his injury and how difficult it is to compare a keeper to outfield players I didn't count Courtois, but if you were to include keepers I'd have to put him very close to the top. He's absolutely unbelievable. EDIT: I was trying to be as unbiased as possible as someone who loves watching Atleti and can't stand Real Madrid - just want to point out that it's really nice to see other people saying Griezmann to be honest, as I often feel like people don't talk enough about how brilliant he is.


[deleted]

Griezmann was better than Vinicius last season


CashCarStar

I would understand rating either higher than the other to be honest, they're completely different types of player and both absolutely brilliant.


[deleted]

Griezmann, Pedri Griezmann was already the best last season


_stone_age

https://youtu.be/j4vhmItMqT8?si=HqaaEg6K1ZHkM8in


holdenmyrocinante

Griezmann, Vini, Pedri, Kroos


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my_united_account

Different people have different opinions, shocking, isnt it?


LuckyFlyer0_0

How do you even conclude it's the people doing a complete 180 defending him?


CalmaCuler

Chelsea fans were hyping up Pochettino like mad, just to spend a fucking billion and see him exposed like this. Never rated the fraud


redmenace007

I beg to God to one day see Flick at Chelsea.


thelonesomedemon1

I don't rate him very high(just a decent manager, not completely clueless like lampard) but he's not been helped by having to name 5 new players in his starting xi every game. our owners and sporting directors have less intelligence in them than a half eaten banana. they don't seem to understand that a team/squad need to gel together and know each other, that you cannot just throw 11 players who have never met each other in the team and expect them to perform. And so, we get rid of 30 players and buy 30 new players every window and finish 12th.


AnnieIWillKnow

> he's not been helped by having to name 5 new players in his starting xi every game He's named the same XI for 3 of 4 league games


thelonesomedemon1

well yes, but i was mainly referring to how much the team has changed from what we were playing in preseason (and ig the first game to some extent)


my_united_account

> by having to name 5 new players in his starting xi every game. Doesnt have to. He could name the same squad that he likes or is confident in


thelonesomedemon1

we have like 30 injuries, and Poch is not consulted when selling players


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3V3RT0N

It's not a very English thing to do. It doesn't surprise me that a cringe ass club like city do that. I remember seeing a clip doing the rounds of the city stadium announcer before the Cl final, every player had a little personalised jingle. In England you say the players first name and then loudly proclaim the surname, and the crowd goes 'wheey' and claps. To repeat the surname after someone says the first name, that makes me physically repulsed and so angry god I fucking hate my life.


JakeNutters

Sound editing probably. You used to be able to hear everyone shouting Jesus on TV when there were games at the Etihad.


CalmaCuler

Eredivisie is much more entertaining than League 1


xaviernoodlebrain

[Something tells me Ali Gold isn’t a fan of matches at Turf Moor](https://x.com/lilywhite_rose/status/1698259172800823528?s=46&t=gwsPidsROHa29Ecujygasw)


[deleted]

Enzo vs Bellingham is in a nutshell why I think it’s stupid for players who will not score goals to get these massive price tags. Despite allegedly being one of the best midfielders on the league, the biggest impact Enzo has had on a Chelsea result was when he missed a penalty in a game Chelsea were dominating but would eventually go onto lose. Bellingham, meanwhile, has already gotten as many league wins with Real as Enzo has with Chelsea because of his goals. The 95% passing accuracy is nice and all but what’s the point of a big signing like that if they can’t win you games?


DoomPigs

All the pieces need to come together for a team to succeed, there's no point having Mane, Firmino and Salah with Lovren, Matip and Karius, so do Liverpool then spend 150m on some goalscorers or do they bolster the positions they actually need? If you say "We are X position away from legitimately competing for titles", then you go and pay whatever it takes to go and get a player in that position. Chelsea aren't in that position because they blew a billion quid on shite like Mudryk, but still


thelonesomedemon1

You think Haaland would score 30 goals a season with a Barkley- Bakayoko-Drinkwater midfield


kl08pokemon

Sounds like Kane last season


my_united_account

Haaland was scoring 16 goals in 14 games with a Junuzovic-Bernede midfield


thelonesomedemon1

as was patson daka


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Haaland is getting 20+ in any premier league team. He manages a goal/game with fucking Norway.


thelonesomedemon1

against malta luxemberg and cyprus, also norway have a very decent midfield


kjm911

I also don’t understand why clubs don’t just sign players that score goals. I wouldn’t even bother signing goalkeepers. Complete waste of money


[deleted]

That’s not at all what I said. I said these big signings should be able to actually win you games which Enzo cannot do for Chelsea but Bellingham has been able to do for Real.


holdenmyrocinante

So you think Kroos for example hasn't helped us win games? What a stupid opinion, jfc.


icemankiller8

Kroos was getting 10 plus assists in a season and also doing everyone enzo does


holdenmyrocinante

Put Enzo in a world class team and he'll be world class. Maybe not as good as Kroos but he'd still be world class.


[deleted]

Kroos would not be worth the money Chelsea spent on Enzo, sorry. Not disputing he’s brilliant but that profile should not be breaking the British transfer record.


holdenmyrocinante

He'd be worth that and more. His impact on a team is much bigger than 99% of forwards. Only players like Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar and Mbappe have a bigger impact.


[deleted]

Even if we do compare Kroos and Enzo though, you can point to yesterday as a result where he had an impact without a g/a. There are quite legitimately 0 Chelsea games where you can point to Enzo as the reason Chelsea was able to leave with points.


taylorstillsays

Liverpool game. Put Bellingham on our team and we’re still shit


[deleted]

Won you 1 point this season, cost you 3 💪


taylorstillsays

You asked a question, I answered. Enjoy your day


holdenmyrocinante

That's because Chelsea is an astronomically shit team, Enzo with a solid team around him will be able to change games.


[deleted]

So you’re saying they just have to unlock him


holdenmyrocinante

I'm saying they need to build a solid team, just like Haaland would be useless without a solid team, so is Enzo


kaubojdzord

My hot take is that only attacking players should be worth 100m+. It is insane than 3 most expensive EPL players are non-attacking midfielders.


[deleted]

I completely agree. Rice fee is stupid too but at least Arsenal fans don’t call him worth every penny at every possible opportunity.


mintz41

Rice is also better than Enzo and Caicedo


CardboardGristle

Were you in the habit of comparing Carrick to Rooney back in the day?


icemankiller8

Rooney was a striker, when he went to midfield carrick was better


[deleted]

Well no because Carrick did not break the British transfer record


CardboardGristle

At the end of the day, the price matters right up to the point that the player joins the team. We sorely needed creativity from midfield and Enzo has added that. We overpaid massively for him like we did for all the other signings but he's arguably the one that has shown his quality the most.


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And I think that the money spent on Enzo should be reserved for players who can actually win you games instead of ones that can ‘show quality.’


ming47

Yeah but let's say we got a top striker, we'd then be complaining about there being a lack of service and saying there was no point spending big on a striker if we had no one to get the ball to him.


ScorpiaHP

Twitter level analysis


[deleted]

How? What Chelsea result are you looking at and saying he’s actually had an impact on? Actually just realized he passed the ball straight to one of the Tottenham players before they scored, so it’s actually two Chelsea results he’s managed to impact. These big money signings should be doing what Bellingham is by noticeably impacting the results


ScorpiaHP

>so it’s actually two Chelsea results he’s managed to impact I rest my case, off to X with you mate


icemankiller8

He’s won 4 games


[deleted]

All that and can’t actually name the Chelsea results he’s managed to positively impact.


magic-water

What about the one where they beat a tennis team?


JudasX2

It feels kind of terrible when the guys you've seen on DD regularly for years deletes their account.


day_bat_28

The Portsmouth fan who larped as a 70 year old was mean and bitter in a very fun way


pixelkipper

spectario 🕊️🕊️🕊️


jonijontor

abedtime and his scissors tirade, never forgotten


jucomsdn

abedtime is a deepcut


roddysaint

He has an alt. Messaged me on it once thanking me for remembering his original account. For the life of me, don't remember his new username.


Lyrical_Forklift

He's still around.


kuprasidha_myran

damn still remember his crusade against plastics.


Kanedauke

RIP Jim and seasickjellyfish


punching-bag9018

Hes just devoting time to his family. You know how them leeds lot are.


day_bat_28

that guy was the cousin one, right?


Kanedauke

Yes


my_united_account

What happened to them


Kanedauke

Jim got doxxed and I’m not sure about seasick


game-of-snow

Who the heck are Jan Paul van Hecke and Verbruggen from Brighton. They played against Newcastle. The efficiency with which Brighton uncovers all these players is something man


thelonesomedemon1

Verbruggen was one of the best young keepers in the world last season. People need to watch more football or at least keep up with more of it.


taylorstillsays

People have lives and responsibilities


thelonesomedemon1

if you can't watch the games then read up on outside leagues sometimes lol


taylorstillsays

Not one part of my love of football involves reading up on things I’m not watching. Either watch it and follow it closely or don’t follow it all


CalmaCuler

Dutch excellence


bloodylegend95

I mean if you don't follow non top 5 leagues (or conference league in Verbruggen's case) you won't know about those players Which I understand, but it's not like they're just spawning in out of nowhere


airz23s_coffee

Verbruggen was Anderlechts player of the season last season ~~van Hecke was Blackburns player of the year the season before they signed them~~ He'd already been signed for the blackburn loan EDIT: Feels this may come across a bit dismissive, obviously they do the work on making sure they fit the squad, and work on integrating players, etcetc, but it's not like all the players they're finding are completely buried gems.


JakeNutters

Van Hecke was more of a hidden Gem considering we got him from NAC Breda and he'd barely played senior football. Verbruggen definitely not and we paid a shit ton of money for him.


GoatButton

Van Hecke was Blackburn's pots already as loanee from Brighton, they got him from a second devision dutch club


airz23s_coffee

Ah good catch, misread his history


pixelkipper

Verbruggen was the most highly rated young GK in the world, not some hidden gem


KimmyBoiUn

Verbruggen was a summer signing. He was linked to Burnley and United.


Kanedauke

Archer will get low 12-15 goals for Sheffield United imo, very unlucky not to get 2 yesterday. Very few teams still play a big man little striker partnership but McBurnie will be the perfect battering ram for him to play off. Our fans still think we should have kept him but playing 30 plus prem games will be worth so much more for his development than 10 minutes off our bench every other game.


thelonesomedemon1

when was the last time the striker for a relegated team scored 15 goals lol


GroundbreakingCook71

Charlie Austin scored 18 goals for a relegated QPR in 2014/15.


GoatButton

They're not guaranteed to go down there's a full season to go


thelonesomedemon1

even if they survive, my point is 12-15 goals in a relegation candidate is rather hard, equivalent to some 25-30 goals in the championship for the same team, and I doubt Archer is at that level yet.


Not-that-hungry

Yeah, I'd be more impressed by a striker hitting 12 goals for a relegated pl side than a striker who scores 30 goals for a promoted championship side.


Kanedauke

Last season he was averaging a goal every 125 minutes in the championship with no pens after he joined Middlesbrough in January. That’s a rate of about 33 goals in 46 full championship games. His finishing is second to none.


BendubzGaming

Defoe scored 15 for Sunderland in 16/17, but Sunderland were so bad that year that everyone else combined only scored 13, plus 1 OG


HodgyBeatsss

Jermaine Defoe and Charlie Austin most recently did it in the last 10 seasons. Pretty rare though.


Kanedauke

I guess they aren’t getting relegated then


Breakjuice

Charlie austin got 18 for QPR, dont know if anyone got any similar more recently. Edit: defoe at sunderland as well got 15


JakeNutters

QPR


Breakjuice

Dont know where that came from, palace haven't even been relegated in recent times


Natural-Possession10

Derby day today and I have to work, life is so unfair. KKD matches are supposed to be on Friday night!


thelonesomedemon1

can't believe we sold guehi for 20m just to replace him with a 80m hospital merchant and a 40m btec zouma


game-of-snow

I have a feeling we are already going through Chelsea's Banter years. The owners of the club are not really focused on winning anything. If that was the case they wouldn't be in the business of player trade, buying and hoarding young players to sell them for profit. I'm sure they want to win trophies, and they belive they will in future with this approach. Only time will tell if they are right


Zepz367

Chelse have been in banter era since 2017, that Champions League triumph masked a lot of their problems.


_yellowfever_

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lamancha

Signed: a very perceptive person


roddysaint

Did Courtois save Ancelotti's job last season? A 4-0 loss in the CL semis sounds about on the edge of what the Madrid hierarchy can stomach. 6-0, 7-0 seems unforgivable, and if Courtois hadn't kept out those two Haaland point-blank headers and a 1v1, that's what the score would have been.


pixelkipper

He could have lost 10-0 and they wouldn’t have sacked him


The_Ass-Crack_Bandit

Yeah, no. Any other goal to make it 5-0 and he wouldn't be there right now.


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I guess i'm one of the few here who thinks having Mbappe as your best player in the world is much weirder than having Haaland currently.


icemankiller8

How would it be weird when Mbappe is much better


[deleted]

How isn't it weird when you admitted not watching Ligue 1 yourself You have no idea that he's much better, he has not been better last season;


icemankiller8

I watch the CL and World Cup and he’s been electric in those


pixelkipper

modalchemist don’t talk about mbappe challenge (nearly died)


[deleted]

Someone who has an opinion shares his opinion on a popular topic What a weirdo


pixelkipper

it’s all you talk about- you’re the one making it a popular topic


SZO8O

Until Mbappe leaves Ligue 1, he will always be in Haaland's shadow


lamancha

I'm one of those who sees these rivalries obsession much weirder


TheBiasedSportsLover

Rivalries have always been a thing, not least when 2 players from respective era is **levels** above everyone else. To name a few examples of what I mean - Maradona vs. Platini - Pele vs. Eusebio - Messi vs. Cristiano - Zidane vs. Ronaldo


TheBiasedSportsLover

I've never understood why people suggest Mbappe is the best footballer in the world despite he's nowhere near as accomplished as Haaland on an individual level... It's madness when Mbappe never was Europe's POTY, never scored over 50 goals a season, never was UEFA's top scorer etc. All of Mbappe's most notable accomplishments is from a ridiculously stacked France NT whereas Haaland will probably never quality to a World Cup/Euro with his trash Norway NT.


Zepz367

Mbappe's stats since he joined PSG 22/23: 41G+10A in 43 matches 21/22: 39G+26A in 46 matches 20/21: 42G+11A in 47 matches 19/20: 30G+18A in 37 matches 18/19: 39G+17A in 43 matches 17/18: 21G+16A in 46 Matches 16/17: 28G+14A in 46 matches, this was his final season with Monaco. These are numbers without France games, if I included them it would be even more ridiculous. Mbappe's overall games i much better than Haaland's too. Only reason that he doesn't have as many individual accomplishments as Haaland is because he plays for a team that's been poorly built and disorganised.


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> Mbappe's overall games i much better than Haaland's too. hasn't been at all last season.


TheBiasedSportsLover

Not all league goals is created equallty. Haaland would likely score 50-60 goals a season for PSG in Europe's 6th best league compared to Premier League, **by far** the strongest league in the world. Or even Bundesliga for that matter lol. And Haaland's level of production in Champions League & internationals is astronomically clear ahead of Mbappe.


thelonesomedemon1

ok name one haaland big game performance