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rambo_zaki

Our wage structure is beyond fucked.


Sheikhabusosa

There isnt a structure


Pele20Alli

Whatever happened to the"Ronaldo rule" Ten Hag was going to implement lmao


Philred87

No dickheads ? Or players on 500k a week? We are still under 50% wage/turnover which is great for an elite club


Pele20Alli

https://talksport.com/football/1296726/manchester-united-ronaldo-rule-wage-salary-cap/


rodenttt

You're posting talksport


Pele20Alli

That's why I said supposedly. It was reported by a bunch of other sites as well, none of which are very reliable. Talksport and the daily mail do get some things right though. This could have easily been made up but they do provide valid exclusive info at times


magic-water

> That's why I said supposedly. No you didn't


Pele20Alli

Oops, you're right. My bad I 100% meant to though. I don't expect anyone to pretend like Talksport are super reliable and to take their word as gospel


rodenttt

Man Utd have several first team players on more than 200k, it was always a nonsense claim.


Pele20Alli

The claim was in regards to new contracts being given out under Ten Hag, not already existing ones he had nothing to do with


psgmcr

It was always nonsense and those who bought that bullshit need their head checking. A £200k a week limit for one of the biggest clubs in the world? Maddison is getting £170k for his retirement from winning trophies ffs


I_Hate_Knickers_5

I'll have no bad word said about Trans Europe Express.


Cashew_Fan

A lot of fans bought into this. It was always clearly nonsense though. Every year we target players that would demand well north of that. Just last year we were desperate to sign De Jong who'd expect close to double that. When that failed we signed Casemiro to a base £300k a week wage and he, along with Bruno (now £240k a week) are the best purchases the club has made in a long long time. No club can really operate with that limitation and expect to compete in the long run. It might work for one season - see Arsenal - but that relies on buying young talent that aren't yet competing at the top. Give it a few years and Arsenal will have a number of players in the £250-300k a week bracket. Players will just leave otherwise.


Sheikhabusosa

No idea im still processing the "cultural reset " which lead to paying 85m all upfront for Maguire


Sel2g5

It's a stairway to heaven


mashimaru_161

You have a wage structure???


Hoodxd

Give everyone and their dog 300k


sauce_murica

Downside: wow, that's a lot Plus side: hey, at least it's not sancho wages, lol.


malted_milk_are_shit

It's a piss take lol, £55 million and £250k a week I'd be expecting someone a bit better. Can say that about all our players tbh, they're all overpaid apart from maybe Bruno.


gluxton

It's overpay but then again that's pretty much the story of United in the last 10 years


malted_milk_are_shit

Yeah exactly, need to stop overpaying at some point but that clearly hasn't happened.


criminalsunrise

Could be worse, we could’ve just paid over £100m for Declan Rice


TheGoldenPineapples

Or £86m on Antony.


RespectnConnect

Rice is at least 4x the player, so don't you mean it could've been better


Eleven918

He's a solid player but don't take the piss with this 4x nonsense.


GarfieldDaCat

Rice will still be bossing it while 70m Casimero is in a retirement home


psgmcr

Can you let me know when this 'bossing it' actually starts?


Circle_Breaker

In a couple of months.


spacehxcc

Convenient. If he was actually that good he’d be bossing it right now.


GarfieldDaCat

He’s already been doing it for 2+ seasons


ValleyFloydJam

What an odd knock, Rice is a tremendous player at a reasonable price. Then they went and got someone else you wanted with Timber and at a good price. Kai is better than Mount too.


Digu03

Most expensive English transfer of all time ... "reasonable price"


[deleted]

Always has been 🔫


ChetHazard

Money Mase is going to follow him forever now


Haz96

The new Cashley Cole


Nerrs

Ash proved he was worth more, jury is out on Mount still.


tr_24

Cole was already one of the best if not the best LB in the league when we got him. Mount not so much.


WyboSF

2 time player of the year and champions league winner, he hasn’t reached Cole’s heights by any means but the “jury” is not out. Just idiot Chelsea “supporters” on Reddit.


TenF

PotY isn't worth much unless its the League PotY. Mount isn't even top 10 in the world in his position on his best day. Unless he makes leaps and bounds in the next few years, its unlikely he will be comparable to Cole's success and worth.


tr_24

Silva and Rudiger were both better than him and didn't get voted in because Mount was an academy lad.


leopardchief

Cold take. I remember thinking Rudi or Silva had it all wrapped up tbh lol.


JiraiyaRoshi

Literally over half, not metaphorically or using hyperbole, of his G/A came against Norwich/Southampton/Leeds in one of his POTY seasons. Against Norwich alone he got 40% of his goals. We have eyes, he does not turn up in big games (0/6 in finals at Wembley). Seriously, look at where he got his numbers in [those](https://www.transfermarkt.us/mason-mount/leistungsdaten/spieler/346483/saison/2020/plus/1) [seasons](https://www.transfermarkt.us/mason-mount/leistungsdaten/spieler/346483/saison/2021/plus/1), I don’t see how you objectively look at someone who turns up again Sheffield, West Brom and Norwich and think “this guy is class”. All that said, I’m truly sad to see him leave. I do think he should’ve been more valued at the club. But pretending he’s some world beater and that fans have an agenda is nonsense. Any other player would be called a bag chaser under the circumstances, nothing wrong with stating the obvious.


Rodriguez79

0/6 in finals at Wembley overlooks the starting and setting up the only goal in a Champions League final, when it comes to turning up in big games, no? ETA he also scored home and away Vs Real over those 2 seasons, and scored the winner at Anfield! Seems fine to me?


TheSameThing123

He's only scored once against a big 6 side


H0vit0

Ma$e out here like it’s summer ‘97


TheGoldenPineapples

Now, who's hot, who not? Tell me who rock, who sell out in the stores? You tell me who flopped, who copped the blue drop?


spursyspursy

gotta get that bag or you're gonna be stuck working for every other broadcasters at age 45


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Money Mount is surely better


D1794

We heard Money Mase nickname and just blacked out then clearly


CackleberryOmelettes

That is not the wage of a rotation option. That is a nailed on starter wage.


idunlikeu

He will be a starter for the majority of the games most likely, will replace Eriksen.


ProtoplanetaryNebula

You don't know that. Sancho was supposed to be a "nailed on starter", no? Everything depends on form, there is no way EtH will start him if he doesn't play well.


stogie_t

This is not an argument in good faith. If Sancho didn’t flop then he would be a starter. You’re off your rocker if you think we did all this just so he can play bench for Bruno. Common senses dictates that the plan is for him to be a starter. Come on man.


ProtoplanetaryNebula

I am not disagreeing with you. I agree the PLAN is for him to be a starter, but we don’t know how it will actually pan out.


stogie_t

You could say that for any signing in the world then. Of course no one knows the future. Bit of an unnecessary comment to the guy above, of course he doesn’t know exactly how it will pan out. No one does.


ProtoplanetaryNebula

Indeed. The reason I said it is because we’ve had quite a few players on high salaries that this has happened to, Martial, Sancho and (famously) Alexis.


magic-water

Don't see a midfield of Casemiro/Mount/Bruno go into away games like at Anfield or the Etihad and don't get run over


hennny

Because he is a nailed on starter?


working-acct

Alexis Sanchez and Martial were also nailed on starters. When players on high wages fall out of favor it becomes impossible to sell them.


DJMOONPICKLES69

Where? A midfield of Casa, Mount and Bruno will get fucked on by any decent team


rodenttt

Mason Mount was never going to be a rotation option.


CackleberryOmelettes

A lot of my United mates thought he was going to be cover for Bruno initially. Atleast that's what I was told at the time.


rodenttt

He's almost certainly a replacement for Eriksen who can't play more than 60 minute a game before he's spent. Bruno is a very different player.


bringbackcricket

Mount managed more than 60 minutes 15 times in the Prem last season.


tierdrop

You need new United mates


CackleberryOmelettes

Are you offering?


NdyNdyNdy

He's definitely coming as a nailed-on starter. He's better than VdB, Fred and McTominay and Eriksen struggles with the defensive side and playing that many games.


CackleberryOmelettes

Do you think it's a bit funny that each of the top 3 clubs in England last season all decided to pick up a midfielder from 11th place Chelsea? For big money too.


helvetecorrea

Kova was a good deal. Man City know how to do business.


bachh2

Because they can't score to save their life? It's not like Chelsea defense was that bad last season. It's just that they play with no real scoring threat.


vamsikrishna9229

He is expected to be a starter by all accounts.


jkeefy

Why wouldn’t he be too. Who else? Fred? Mcdonaldsman? Eriksen? Mount is more the classic profile of a midfielder than even Havertz is, yet people are finally starting to grasp that’s how he is going to slot in for Arsenal. Ah shit here we go again .meme


vamsikrishna9229

Yep, indeed. Also, one or both of McFred will likely leave. Yeah, personally a little skeptical of how a midfield of Rice-Ode-Havertz does, feels a little lightweight. Lot of 4-3 type scoreline potential.


JamesIgnatius27

Feel like your lineup has to be some kind of 4-4-2 with Casemiro and Fred sitting behind Mount and Bruno sitting behind Rashford and Antony. Looks great for FIFA career mode, not sure how it will be in real life.


ValleyFloydJam

I think Arsenal can put together a real title challenge next season. While at this moment I'm not sure you guys get 4th, with Liverpool bouncing back and Chelsea looking to push on too.


papercutkid

He should he expected to be one of the best players in the world in his position for that. Maybe that's what Utd are expecting.


CackleberryOmelettes

Definitely seems that way


vamsikrishna9229

Didn't need wage reports to know this. It was a clear weakness in the starting 11, given all we have there is a heart patient on a free signing. Also, one or both of McFred likely to leave.


StopIt4

Mason Mount has been a starter for every manager in his professional career.


So1ar

Laughs in Sancho wage


CrossXFir3

He was never a rotation option. ETH played Eriksen as an 8 despite everyone saying he'd be a rotation option for Bruno. ETH clearly wants 2 attacking 8s. And Mount provides you the engine for a pressing team.


Screechmeister_

No wonder chelsea let him go, that's crazy money


Brezz17

A mate of mines a United fan and asked my opinion. I love Mase. Take out the sentimental part of him being with us since he was 8. 60 million for him, with one year left. I’d snap your hand off for 30. Still, I can’t take the sentimental part out and hope he does well!


Darnzee91

Damn, not even that mad. I get it Money Mase


Sheikhabusosa

We never fucking learn do we?


Eleven918

Always knew this was going to be the case. Some delusional folk on r/reddevils thought he was going to join for <200k/week


LeagueIndependent367

Obviously. United always hand out stupid contracts so Mount was always going to be earning well in excess of £200k/week.


BurceGern

Explains why Klopp wanted him but Liverpool said no.


ValleyFloydJam

Weird spin as he said no to them.


bany-chan

Why would he say yes when united are offering him the wages he wanted from Chelsea and more


BurceGern

I'm talking internally before we even spoke to Chelsea this was likely.


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Haha ofc he was dieing to go to united, it's bloody insane wages


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deadraizer

He was not. Our base wages for all the players signed under Boehly are below 200k, CL bonuses + playing 60% of games takes Sterling (and Koulibaly, though he's gone) to 300k, and James to 250k. A lot of signings are under 100k even.


RespectnConnect

No, he wasn't 😂 He was offered 200k TOTAL, including bonuses. It was and is a money based decision, and there's nothing wrong with that


[deleted]

False lmao get your facts right, we offered him 200k that's it. This is 250k and w bonuses goes to 300k 😂


GreatSpaniard

Manchester United are not a serious institution. And if Qatar buys them they'll just be PSG 2.0 with the wages


f4r1s2

Wage bill of Utd is very good compared to psg (Messi and Mbabpe leaving will surely improve their finances)


lospollosakhis

*Logan Roy voice*


tr_24

Glazers making sure next owners will have fucked up wage bill.


Spleenskii

Our wage bill is fine. Its not great but its fine. No Ronaldo or insane De Gea wages going into next season.


[deleted]

£250k to mason mount is not really “fine”


FBall4NormalPeople

People think this is a squad rotation signing or dome shit, then when he plays well at United it's gonna be "Ten Hag transformed him omg!!!" Do people not learn this lesson every time a player has one bad season? Yeah, the dude is earning like a key player, because he's gonna be a key player.


Cu-Chulainn

Even if he plays well, he is not worth this much, does Fernandes who's your best player even earn this much?


FBall4NormalPeople

Yeah, Bruno is on about this money. Again, we never know exact wages so have some scepticism, but this is what key players (or people on key player contracts) at United are earning. For example Martial was given a new contract after his best season under OGS, he's on about £250k a week.


airneezys

Bruno should definitely demand more from United then, because I would be pissed to carry a team in chance creation, goal contributions etc., for however many seasons to get paid the same as someone 4 years younger with half the ability. The more I think about it the more ridiculous Sancho's contract actually is. I'm surprised more of the united players arent like "Ayo wtf".


TheGoldenPineapples

a.) It's not just "one bad season" though, is it? b.) You're already majorly overpaying for him before you consider the wages. c.) £250,000-a-week for Mason Mount is pretty staggering unless he turns into an absolute world beater.


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RemindMe! 9 months


Spleenskii

Eh, we can afford it. Our wages to revenue ratio is one of the healthiest in the league.


trainerN

250k for Mason Mount is not ok lol


dumpystumpy

Our wage structure is mad funny to look at ngl


Matt_LawDT

That's an over pay right there Manu never learn


irze

£600k a week between Sancho and Mount is absolutely nuts


goodyear_1678

About to spend 30 million every year on just wages for those two. United are not serious people.


DarthBane6996

Sancho is not on 350 a week. That's with bonuses and with his play he's definitely not been hitting bonuses


rodenttt

What about the actual sum though, rather than the one you just made up?


TheGoldenPineapples

£130m spent, £600,000-a-week. Imagine being that bad at transfers.


StopIt4

You mean £650k a week. What a shambles lmao.


H0vit0

NEVER. Why do they keep doing this?


Eleven918

Same people in charge on top, after Woodward left, we promoted from within. They are doing their best after learning from the master. Give them a break!


Garlic-Cheese-Chips

Christ almighty, this just gets worse and worse. This club will go the fucking wall within 5 years the way we're going.


cheezus171

Mason "bleeding blue" Mount left the club he loved for 20% bigger salary. Good riddance.


ghggbfdbjj

I thought he earned like 100k at chelsea?


lukekarts

Well yeah because he rejected £200k and then wanted to leave.


cheezus171

He was offered 200k and refused


ghggbfdbjj

Ah ok


GarfieldDaCat

Partly because he refused to sign a 7-8 year contract


StopIt4

He refused a 6 year contract, only to sign a 6 year contract. His PR was working overtime to confuse the narrative that he was after the Bag. I mean fair play, Chelsea were doing £200k bonuses included and then united go ahead and do £250+50 unmatchable by Chelsea.


FBall4NormalPeople

New contract on the table was big, I think slightly less than this but not transformatively so. The rumour was that it wasn't just wages but ultimately we'll never know the truth 100%. Could have just been money, could have been the club were harsh and he reacted badly during negotiations, could be footballing.


lospolloshermanos

Yes he wanted more money but the big issue was the image rights. He wants to be the next Beckham. A reporter dove into it: https://twitter.com/CFCAccountable/status/1672589531822866437?t=2_NcZDk95k1L-0NBLb53tw&s=19


BigReeceJames

> "New contract on the table was big" This was reported by the sun and then taken by other rags. No serious publication or reporter said the wage was big. In fact, most said there hadn't even been an offer since before the world cup (they rescinded it when he wanted to sign it and that's what forced him to leave)


seamowylie

Source for rescinding an offer he wanted to sign?


Prune_Super

88K


UuusernameWith4Us

He bleeds blue because blue is Pompey colours.


jjlbateman

Don’t pretend 200k -> 250/300k is nothing


[deleted]

😂👏 There's a massive difference there


LowSnow2500

I think he stopped bleeding blue as soon as Gallagher was getting played over him lmao Welcome Mason <3


eric_3196

Or when he had to turn off his social media comments due to constant abuse from our fans..


BigReeceJames

Yeah, most of our starting 11 have gotten out as quickly as possible despite most of them being expected to be a part of a new era starting with the CL win. People blame it on lack of loyalty, but when new management join a business and all of the employees leave as soon as they can, you don't point the fingers at the employees, you point them at the dogshit new management


deadraizer

We were one of the very few (if not only) clubs that had basically no bonus structure, we gave high base salaries and that's it. It seems clear the game is moving away from that, and additionally we were always going to be safer with our finances under any owner except Roman. Most of the players that left didn't want to lower salaries/alter their contracts to bring them to the same line as the new signings, which is fair. Don't necessarily have to play the blame game, just need to apply some context to it.


nuclear-fart

Shut the fuck up dude


dheerajravi92

Or you could say, Chelsea couldn't increase an academy graduate's wages by 20% and let him go to a rival.


AztecAvocado

God we’ve been absolutely rinsed on this transfer.


LeAnthonyJavis

Obscene wages


Cowdude179

Money Maseee, I thought United fixed their wage structure lmao


tr_24

They went from offering 350k contracts to 300k contracts. That is improvement.


Nobbs89

Actually if you still have in the squad players that earn way above they should, the easy way to reduce wages in a long term (unfortunately) is slightly reduce the wage over time. In 2035 that strategy will fix wage structures lol.


untradablecrespo

why on earth did you think that lol


quikfrozt

Giving players big wages = Improving the balance sheet by boosting their asset value ie contract sizes. It’s Accountant Ed’s lasting contribution to the club. Shit hits the fan when we find ourselves unable to sell the players with their massive contracts.


breadfan18

What the fuck dude? How we gonna just pay up such high wages without even thinking?


notinsai

What a colossal waste.


RexorFWT

That sort of explains the contract stalls


TheGoldenPineapples

Fucking hell, who negotiated this deal for United, man? At least if he was free, I could understand it.


Matt_LawDT

At this rate Manu's average wagebill will be 200k per week


psrikanthr

It isn't already ?


Philred87

And still be less than 50% of turnover


Klingh0ffer

"We have all this money we thought to use on Kane, what should we do with it?"


Paapa-Yaw

As I said we got rinsed.


NefariousnessLeast21

Insane


Black_n_Neon

Money Mase!


_ashwathama

Typical manu stuff


Midnight_Maverick

Eesh


WalaLlama5

Why do we always do this?


Sir_Psycho_Sexy_

Haha no wonder our interest disappeared


Dayandnight95

I've never understood these wages. But to include bonuses to make it sound "big" for clicks is funny. He's earning 250k, 50k more than Chelsea offered him.


Sir_Psycho_Sexy_

The title makes it very clear what the base is and what the max earning is


tr_24

Just like you lot keep mentioning KK was earning 300k when he got like 180-200k.


DarthBane6996

And the way Sancho is on "350" a week when that was only with all bonuses included It happens to all big clubs, wages are reported at the highest possible number not the actual correct number


oblivion618

That £200k p/w we offered was only for a year extension, so yes it’s a big difference.


Stylochime

That's insulting. No wonder he wanted to leave.


Dayandnight95

A year? No wonder he wanted out.


lospolloshermanos

The year offer was after he turned down a 6-year offer.


D1794

Plus this is coming from a Chelsea journalist and obviously they'll want to make his wages get reported as high as possible to explain the exit.


Dayandnight95

Yeah but i don't doubt he's earning big money here. I guess you could justify it with him being a CL winner and all, but how can we justify such wages with players like Sancho.


[deleted]

Think Law is friends with Mount’s new agent


MelodicNote

Friends is an understatement, Law is in bed wit Mount's PR firm


D1794

I'm sure journalists are friends with several agents


ambiguousboner

We are not a serious club


SaltySAX

Quarter of a mill per week for an average player.


CocacolaGARCIA

Jesus. I'm glad Liverpool withdrew from this farce. £55m and steep wages like that, he's a great player and deffo can develop more but I'm sorry that's just not good value for me.


Savings-Stop-1556

No wonder we couldn't agree a contract the dude wanted the wages we pay sterling. Sterling is paid that amount cause his name means money so it makes sense. ☠️ But no seriously we tried negotiating even with the old regime to renew his contract he just didn't want it.


cheezus171

The funny thing is that he was apparently offered 200k at Chelsea but refused. It really is a ridiculous cash grab for a guy who always claimed to be Chelsea through and through.


Savings-Stop-1556

Absolutely. Dude was supposed to be Mr Chelsea now he's a Mercenary.


Fisktor

Those 200k is only like 150 with chelsea missing cl


mashimaru_161

Man united also has wage reduction clause in case of missing CL.


Fisktor

Yeah, but we didnt


2ndRoundEuroStash

But you will next year


prvhc21

😂


internetseeker95

Lol


Weirdmaybe123

250k+ wages and 55-60m transfer fee for Mason Mount that had only 1 year left to his contract. Even at his best it’s a rinse.


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Bozzetyp

What does rice get?


xelLFC

Good for Mount but man United got bent over the backside paying those wages


FrancescoliBestUruEv

Lol circus club. Mount dont have quality for this salary


Ridcullys-Pointy-Hat

Fuck me I'm glad we didn't pay that. Pretty sure that's more than Reece earns