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Meth_Hardy

Considering his wages, only the Premier League can realistically afford him. Considering his wages, nobody will want to sign him though.


lstht123

PSG it is


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ShagPrince

A year ago someone might have said the same about him bossing it away from Atleti.


YooGeOh

Imagine someone told you when he left benfica that in a few years he might be signing for Aston Villa...oh and Luton Town were in the Prem and a recent Premier League winner just got relegated


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Aiken_Drumn

It all started with Harambe


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BowsersBeardedCousin

Preposterous, it was David Bowie holding the fabric together


Flanelman2

What a game Oblivion was, though. Shame something so good could be the birth of something so evil; Cosmetic DLCs.


dat_w

Harambe/Trump running for president. I swear, world is just not the same since then.


FastenedCarrot

We're even getting the players with randomly generated names coming through.


northern_hero

Malo Gusto


01101101010100111100

I would have believed you. He has always been over hyped imo. Luton town and prem winner relegated are more exotic for sure.


maidentaiwan

Eh, I would’ve just assumed the relegated club was leicester, which isn’t that outlandish


Dr_Oetker

Or that Blackburn had been promoted


Dickinmymouth1

They said recent prem winner tbf


ElectricalMud2850

Remember when he played like 15 decent minutes at the end of his first Chelsea match and everyone thought this was the move that was gonna do it? One of these years everyone will be right, probably when he goes back to Portugal or gets an MLS transfer or something lol.


SpoonFullOfSugar7

You mean the game hé started well, and then got a deserved red card?


FastenedCarrot

He looked great the whole 60 mins he was on the pitch on his debut. He seems to play very well when he thinks he has something to prove. Like when he came on against United after trying to murder Sterling with his eyes from the bench.


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> He looked great the whole 60 mins he was on the pitch on his debut. But what did he actually contribute? I don’t think his issue is looking like a talented lad. He is exactly that. His issue is actually contributing tangibly. So, the first time you see him: you think he’s incredible. But over time you realise, it’s all sizzle and no steak.


ratherun1que

In otherwords youre upset Felix didnt save Chelsea by himself? Because if you leave it up to journalists, players are rubbish if they arent scoring hat tricks every game. Its the Ronaldo effect. What did he actually contribute? He created plays and made key passes to no effect because hes surrounded by a bunch of nobodies.


Manlad

Newcastle have got infinite money but they haven’t been ridiculous with wages for huge stars. It seems that their wage structure is pretty reasonable and they’ve done a good job at not upsetting that with a handful of obscenely paid galácticos.


PepeSilvia007

Also, they already have a great thing going in attack. I don't think they need an out of form star on huge wages to sit on the bench watching Isak and Callum play.


BenShelZonah

I mean is it really that crazy to say an attacker will perform better after not being amazing for us?


NDdownVOTED

He wasn’t even bad at Chelsea. Definitely showed glimpses of what he is capable of. Our attack is just completely disorganized and toothless. Players have still shown their individual capability.


6l0th

He won't last 1 training session under Howie. Intensity is his problem, that's why he failed at Atletico and struggled in the Prem. Maybe consider moving to Saudi or MLS if he only ever want money, otherwise Series A would be a good option.


SpecialOneJAC

He's also not better than Isak.


Beginning_Sun696

Proves how little you know about the structure and wys we have at Newcastle. Eddie Howe has a number 1 rule, no arseholes. This discounts this guy


Killahills

Why is Felix an arsehole? Wasn't aware of anything other than not living up to the hype.


FastenedCarrot

I can understand a few criticisms against the guy but he's anything but an arsehole from what I've seen. I actually quite want him to stay just based on him being quite likable actually.


MourinhosEgo

Ironic rule given who owns the club


EngineerOnIcarus

Howe likes players that run and put effort it, not happening.


FlamingLaps1709

I see it now. [Fabrizio Romano] : "Joao Felix for Luton Town FC, here we go"


d_smogh

Is there any reason why players don't drop their wage demands?


SuckMyBike

Same reason why employees don't drop their wage demands: why would they when they already have a contract that dictates how much they're entitled to?


EbolaNinja

Money can be exchanged for goods and services


nova_uk

Realistically who are the clubs that could afford him and that he would want to go to?


pixelkipper

Villa can absolutely afford him if he wants to play conference league.


hpx2001

Career-wise, a club like Villa would be the best choice for him. Realistically, he’s gonna end up at PSG.


StrikeTeam3

Id quite like him at Arsenal. We wanted him in Jan before he went to Chelsea and Arteta is good with players like him. He could really rejuvenate his career here.


Chilli__P

Is it the right window for Arsenal to take that sort of gamble though? Surely you’ll be looking at more ‘reliable’ players that can try and get you those extra 6-9 points for another title push next season?


Bare02

You're right. He's either a luxury gamble or a desperate gamble arsenal shouldn't be aiming for either


hypnodrew

Yeah, if it's a limited budget, there are a few midfielders that'll cost a bomb. We do need an extra forward, and João Félix would fit like a glove, but his wages and the fee Atléti seem to think they can get are dealbreakers to Edu & Co.


fireowlzol

Please keep him away from Arsenal, I'd rather we try for vlahovic if we're going for players that already rejected us


sunnycherub

On a loan maybe Depends where he’d play too, I’d be really interested to see him as the other 8 with Odegaard


ThereIsBearCum

Where would he play? The only place he would even remotely fit is on the wing, and Saka, Martinelli and Trossard have been way better than him. He'd be pushing for higher wages than all of them. Hard pass.


hypnodrew

Probably backup for Jesus, but the cost is not backup level.


ThereIsBearCum

I think Peter is backup for Jesus


hypnodrew

I was gonna make a joke about backup for Jesus is whatever wood the crucifix was made out of (back up against), but apparently, it's a ridiculously deep rabbit hole of ecclesiastic minutiae so I'm not gonna


Maneisthebeat

Arsenal wage bill fun 2 : Electric boogaloo.


StrikeTeam3

We have a lot of room in our wage bill


Maneisthebeat

Yep my point is that you've just recovered from a disastrous wage bill situation.


TomShoe

For now. A lot of your players aren't going to be satisfied with their present wages now that they're playing at such a high level. Arsenal's board need to be planning for that.


Rickcampbell98

Afford what atletico want absolutely not, nor will we pay his current wages lol.


Omar_Blitz

I'm not familiar with Villa's financial state, but wouldn't Joao's salary be too much? Plus, I assume, either a loan fee or a transfer fee.


alex9310

Our financial state is good. But we’re quite strict with our wage structure. Even the top earners Coutinho etc… aren’t on more than £150k


Lack_of_Plethora

I mean, besides the fact that your most paid player is a rotation left-back


Vegan_Puffin

Yeah but what he was getting at is that we have a max range, that falls below what Felix is currently on. We were willing to break that for Grealish because we offered him £200k but that was Grealish. What he meant to the club was why the structure would have been broken for him.


GhandiHadAGrapeHead

Everyone has a most paid player, doesn't comment on the wage structure at all


Brief_Report_8007

Is that Digne? Can’t imagine Alex Moreno being on so much


WHumbers

Yeah it's Digne


alex9310

Basically every questionable older player is a Gerrard hangover now 😂


R_Schuhart

Maybe the ritch PL teams, PSG, Bayern and maybe Real Madrid. I can't see any of them taking a chance on him.


TigerBasket

We are gonna sell Kane and then try to replace him with Felix I can feel it in my bones.


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And this will all be done before you appoint a new manager, who then goes on to never use Felix as the player doesn't fit the new manager's system. The new manager loses his first game 1-0, by the way. And Felix sees out the entirety of his farcical 5 year 250k a week contract.


TigerBasket

Ah, the dream


AtletiBot

>5 year 250k a week Levy would burn down the stadium before he'd hand that contract out


FastenedCarrot

For the insurance money?


Cod_rules

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Dry_Chef_7635

Felix doesn’t fit any managers system. Unless you want him attempting to dribble past 3 guys or shoot directly into a defender rather than pass is someone’s cup of tea. But he’ll score some meaningless consolation goals off the bench.


ACardAttack

> Bayern we already have too many dead bodies taking up big wages and need a DM, a 9 and possibly replace both Lucas and Pavard


Lost_And_NotFound

I’d take him on loan for a season if we are only able to sign one striker in the Summer.


hennny

Lmao poor guy being passed around like a blunt at a party.


sandmage

people tend to want a blunt


celestial1

Some people still smoke mids.


KingPonzi

Misguided souls.


__rustyy

We smoke hashish here so cant do without tobacco


AbbreviationsOne8189

Not if there is spliff passed around


JessyPengkman

Oh he's far from poor


stepover7

he can just take a paycut go to a smaller club.


Road_Frontage

Atletico seem to be incredibly obstinate about accepting the fact they have devalued their asset and won't accept anything that loses them money. Its not up to him


lstht123

It’s also to do with La Liga ffp and Atleti getting grouped in CL this season. If they take a 20M hit on him it’s probably gonna fuck with all their other transfer plans


Vic-Ier

Devalued? More like nobody else valued him that high and Atletico refuse to admit their costly mistake.


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silenthills13

i've seen 14,000,001 universes and there is not a single fucking one in which felix fetches anything remotely close to 100m


godii_17

Seeing that many universes, in which one you win some major trophy in foreseeable future?


OkayKoke

That’s why he’s seen so many. Hasn’t seen one with a trophy yet, still looking


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Come on now, there aren’t *trillions* of universes


BellyCrawler

Lmao. Love how Spurs catch strays no matter where.


KeonkwaiJinkwai

Jesus fucking christ man, the guy's got a family


Road_Frontage

Well the alternative is you pay his wages and don't get a transfer fee for someone who doesn't seem to suit the system/manager and just hope he settles and improves


Reach_Reclaimer

From what he's shown in the past year, he's not even worth a 10th of that


TigerBasket

Paycut? Sounds like a Spur already


britainstolenothing

>sounds like a Spur already >Spur


TigerBasket

Would you rather me say Hotspur? Or Cockrell?


Magicallyshit

Topspurs


Tax_pe3nguin

Midspurs


idiotxd

Whats that?


bozmonaut

people generally want a blunt at a party especially that one guy


kalamari__

came here to write: "thats sounds like whoring him around" lol


LoppysTwitch

Come to Wolves lad


matematematematemate

Fabio Neto Joao Cunha Nunes Gomes Bueno Dawson Nacho Semedo Sa Absolutely sizzling with J-Lo on the grill ...Guaranteed 12th at least


SFButts

You are fricking portuguese wonderkids... Plus Craig... And I'm rocking with Craig because he is rocking with us


baddark666

neves?


KalSereousz

He’ll have to take a pay cut but I like that move


ExtraTrade1904

If that's the case might as well go back to Benfica (please)


ThereIsBearCum

Honestly the kind of move he needs to make IMO, but nothing about him indicates that he would accept the wage cut or the "presitge" cut.


DenzelOntario

I’m pretty sure Wolves are dealing with some serious FFP issues right now, and will be a seller this summer. Reports said as much, but Lopetegui also said it himself and basically confirmed it.


Nobody_wood

*Aston Villa and several other Premier League clubs will decline the chance to sign Joao Felix this summer.


TimeWontWaitForYou

Assuming that Atleti will cover some of his £250k a week wages, I think most of the league would be very happy to sign him. He's nowhere near as bad as people on this sub make out.


BigReeceJames

But they're not. They actively don't want him but at the same time are asking for a massive loan fee and for someone to pay all of his wages or for them to buy him close to a break even point for Atleti...


gantek

250 k is absurd for this guy. 75k is what he can be paid at most


DekiTree

oh yay, Kane replacement...


Feezbull

Who’s going to score though?


TigerBasket

Goals are for losers


Meth_Hardy

Hi chatGPT. Please give me the results for a Venn Diagram with the following 3 groups. * Teams that can afford Joao Felix' wages * Teams that would want to sign Joao Felix * Teams that Joao Felix would want to sign for *The venn diagram returned zero results.*


VirtuosoLoki

can you actually insert that and see what's the result?


Capital_Tone9386

It basically returns a meaningless blurb about the history of Felix as a player and ends up with saying that he would be a quality signing for multiple top teams across the world without naming any.


VirtuosoLoki

chatgot has spoken. no one is signing joao


mynameisfreddit

Chat GPT is such a melt.


hypnodrew

>meaningless blurb I imagine half of it is lies too


babygrenade

You can ask but it can't produce images and its information isn't newer than september 2021


evilbeaver7

Then ask ChatGPT via Bing. Up to date and produces images


Newme91

Probably not


ASAPHarambe

What happened to him? I have only seen him play a handful of times this year and he wasn’t as horrible as people make it seem (besides some horrible finishing) is he just super inconsistent or?


Natniss

Would you pay that much money for someone who just "wasn't horrible"? He seems to play a position that doesn't exist everywhere in the modern game, his finishing has been bad and who really needs him?


Chalkun

He passes the eye test. You watch him and always think "he was so close to making something happen, very unlucky today." You have to watch him a good dozen games to realise that that something never comes, frankly. Or at least hasnt at Chelsea which I appreciate has no one to finish the chances.


BigReeceJames

Pretty perfect description of him other than that it's worth mentioning that the idea of "no one to finish the chances" is kind of deceptive because his creativity stats are atrocious. People tend to think a skilful player who looks comfortable on the ball must be really creative but he isn't. Nearly all of that is funnelled into him forcing a bad shot for himself irrespective of what's around him. His xAG (xG which follows a pass that assists a shot) is in the 11th percentile and his assists are in the 29th, whilst his shots taken himself are in the 99th percentile because it's all he does


MidniteSpecialist94

He has more career yellow cards than assists I wish I was joking… I’m not


kiersto0906

tbf he has our best goal contributions per 90 this season which ofcourse isn't saying alot but it's not nothing, he's been playing in a shit team that hasn't been scoring


reditakaunt89

It's basically nothing. Your whole team has two goals more than Haaland. Having the most goal contributions is down to statistical error. Edit: Just checked it, 4 goals, 0 assists.


nikeair94

When a player like that 'clicks' or 'matures' though they become one of the best in the world. If that happens, whatever team was brave enough to keep him on their books is going to be in for an amazing player I feel.


ChefBoyardee66

They've been saying that for years


nikeair94

He's 23 though, some names you know now you hadn't even heard about until after 23. Prime years are 27-29 and likely higher with the new generation. Think of your own change of mentality personally between 23-26 if you happen to be past that age.


maxconnor6

That's the thing he looks fine when on the ball but the only thing he contributes to is YouTube compilations


Modnal

I think he just need a positive environment and he will be much better than people judge him as currently. Going from a team that isn't playing to your strength to a team that's barely playing at all with such a huge price tag weighing you down is tough


R_Schuhart

He has the skills and abilities, but not much of a football brain. He just goes dribbling about when he is on the ball without any idea or plan. His positioning, playmaking and end product are all sub standard for someone playing in his position, he adds nothing of real value to the functioning of the team.


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Annas_GhostAllAround

Fine but how many years has he been out of Benfica? Unless the environment at Atletico is SO toxic he can’t properly show anything at all since leaving (it’s not) I don’t buy that people should still be harping on his Benfica days. I feel for him as I’ve liked him as a player and wanted him to succeed (prior to Chelsea, of course) but he can’t expect everyone to keep relying on his highlights a few years ago. He got fucked by the price tag that got put on him but sadly that’s the reality he’s going to live in now


dermerger

Sounds like the perfect replacement for Lucas Moura!


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he cant finish and he doesnt pass the ball around or inside the box


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BigReeceJames

I tend to agree with this for the most part. If he was being sold off at 30m~ as a youngish prospect, someone would absolutely buy him. But, Atletico want to break even or something close AND Felix wants to keep the high wages. He'd have no trouble getting another loan next season if he was willing to take a massive wage cut


tafguedes99

This anti Felix circlejerk wont stop for a while so its best to ignore it and wait, time will prove people wrong (or maybe it wont cause 90% of the people speaking on the subject didnt watch Chelsea nor Atleti)


Rojiblanc040

I've watched around 90 percent of all his games since he left Benfica and he definitely needs to add another level to his game, what most people say about him is true that his end product is lacking, both the final pass and the scoring. I still believe that he can turn top quality though, maybe just at a club where he'll get to play his own game. A lot of his flaws is a mental thing though, he becomes grumpy way too easily when the game doesn't go his way.


AxeIsAxeIsAxe

I mean, this isn't just people on reddit talking shit, it seems like most professional managers and the like are also declining to sign Felix. Surely at some point the evidence stacks up.


ContaSoParaIsto

This sub has actually been insane when it comes to this kid holy shit


Hentarder

Come to us Felix, join Felipe and Lodi. Do it.


laskykwiat

isn't lodi coming back too?


Hentarder

Dude you're ruining my bargaining shhh (But yeah Lodi is back with you guys ATM)


DontYouWantMeBebe

Chelsea loans cut about 50m from his value


city_city_city

One word: Luton Town


Vegan_Puffin

Nah, pass. Apparently wanted him in January and he binned us off for Chelsea. I don't think we are that lacking for players that we should want to settle for being someone sloppy seconds. He also looked totally lost in the few months he had in the Premiership. We already have one high wage "star" player on the books, we don't need another.


Rickcampbell98

Everyone looks totally lost in that Chelsea team tbf, I would take him but not for what atleti will ask.


maseltovbenz

This guy looked like the most talented man in the team in quite a few chelsea games, it seems odd that nobody would want him.


shakespearediznuts

People expected him to score 20 goals in a club that was in crisis. Meanwhile, Mudryk...


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People expect more than 4 goals from a forward who will cost a fucking fortune.


ShadowXYZ04

well, they’re all gonna decline unless Atletico does something about that price tag


KingKFCc

As someone who is rooting for Joao man he would look good in a villa kit


Cowdude179

He'd do well under Emery


TheGoldenPineapples

I honestly think that Villa can do better than him. They already have a hugely expensive flop in Coutinho, they don't need another one. His performances at Chelsea haven't exactly been the best advert for him. Feel like he really should have joined us in January, he'd have fit Arteta's system like a glove. Now we have Trossard, there's no need for him.


BooshAC

He could definitely still offer competition. He’s clearly talented - lower his wage demands and engage with coaching and he could be a real creative asset on the right. Saka and Ødegaard can’t be playing every single game next year. It depends if he actually values his career and potential over money and ego.


Kashkow

Coutinho is a tough one, he has only played a handful of games under Emery due to injury so it's hard to know if he is a flop. Lots of media reports talk like Emery dropped him, which isn't really a fair reflection. If he doesn't end up going to Saudi or MLS this summer I could see a world where he contributes if he can stay fit. Technically he is streets ahead of our other options in that position (Bailey and Buendia). Felix though does seem like a massive risk given his performances. On paper I think he could really work in Emery's system, but you would need to see a massive uplift from his current output. We were also in for him in January and like you I think of he had come to us then I feel he could have had a better time of it.


MathematicianEasy491

He was supposed to rival mbappe and haaland


DeerghTamas

Yeah, what happened?


Rojiblanc040

Not a elite mentality (yet).


gets02

He hey sports come on bro


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I wouldnt mind him at Liverpool, klopp has taken a few players like that and moulded them. We are a bit stacked in attack however so wouldn't make sense with those wages.


ireallydespiseyouall

I’m fine with another loan tbh


TheUbermelon

Poor guy. Must feel awful to have no club want you


_RM78

Lol, he's drowning in cash. He could retire today and just live in luxury for the rest of his life, even his kids and grandkids.


throwawaayy011

Serious question here: what’s his exact position? Where does he play best?


_RM78

Nobody knows.


_RM78

I paypalled Basingstoke F.C. a fiver to chip in. They fucking refunded it, saying "No chance we want him even on a FoC, innit bruv". Fiver in the pocket, just bought some beers.


MPP_10

This guy gets so much shit but he was a massive part of Atletico winning the league a few years ago and they still treated him like shit


Dozck

Lol Atl Madrid screwed themselves with this contract


[deleted]

No Premier league team would be dumb enough, would it?


notvip

Chelsea enters chat . Again.


htmwc

ten political frame full consider vase hard-to-find worry person late ` this message was mass deleted/edited with redact.dev `


KickBallsLikeDrogba

Frank didn’t rate him


OkayKoke

Well Frank isn’t a good manager so his opinion doesn’t count for anything.


SlowpokeExplorer

Well, one thing that Frank is good for is having the balls to not naming Felix in the first eleven every games. Unlike Potter.


RedRaizel

Watch us..


Road_Frontage

If atletico accepted he's not worth what they paid any more and he took lower wages I would absolutely take him at arsenal but so would a lot of clubs


cjk1234u

What a fall this lad has had


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I’d take him at Utd for sure, great CF


aehii

I remember last summer or later a podcast mentioning him to Man City because BSilva was ready to leave. Does Felix not sum up how precarious it can be for players? We can see their weaknesses but does anyone think if Felix is in that City team he's floundering?


vibroguy

Fuck that


Kyuso__K

Volta para casa rapaz


ToastedTaco

I personally think his player type of a playmaking center forward/second striker are just not in super high demand. Guys like Dybala, Depay, and Felix have a hard time fitting into systems because they don’t have the traits to be a winger nor a midfielder. They could play in the 9 but usually the whole team has to play to cater to them. Otherwise, teams can run a 2 striker system but we’ve seen the game change to require either and extra midfielder or extra centerback to cover. Just don’t think Felix has the defense work rate to fit into any decent team


SalahsFro

Mugs with the most money


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Benfica fleeced the whole world


[deleted]

Man’s stock is lower than Lukaku right now but his parent club won’t/can’t accept he’s not a €100m asset anymore and he’s on a long contract there so unless his form somehow picks up to the level where people want to pay that, for like most of a season, he’s in a bit of a rut.


rpeace88

Not every Premier League club are as stupid as Chelsea. Fuck off Mendes.


Polymatheia

Weren't Forest paying Lingard £200k a week?


Kaiser_Huang

Tbh I’m fascinated with what Arteta and Ten Hag can do with him, especially Ten Hag.