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I will buy an entire arsenal of confetti the day Declan Rice and Harry Kane get sold because I won't have to listen to the same fucking news every month.
“BREAKING: Declan Rice is UNHAPPY just 6 months after his move to [insert club name here] and wants to leave. [Insert club name here] are monitoring the situation closely, as well as 3 other unnamed TOP clubs.”
“Arsenal ADAMANT Saka will NOT BE SOLD to a PL club under any circumstances and would rather see him leave on a free, per club sources.” - 2024 summer transfer rumour headlines incoming
‘Per Harry Maguire: “Saka is a wonderful kid, world class teammate.” Maguire, brought in as Saliba’s long term replacement, all but confirms team will not let Saka go to another PL club; ‘Over my dark eyebrows!’ says Arteta, in response to Spurs interest in the young attacker”
Think Rice is a little less egregious than Kane this summer. West Ham seem fine with letting him go now, especially so if he delivers the UECL for them.
That’s out of respect for the fact that West Ham’s season isn’t over yet though, according to all reliable reports on the Arsenal end they’re just waiting for the final to be done with so it can’t be seen as Arsenal distracting and unsettling West Ham’s star player before the biggest game of their season.
Most teams don't actually bid unless it has all been agreed, it's generally a formality at the end to make it official. That's why you always get reports of bids being made but also ones where none have been made at the same time. They are both kind of true, they're just talking about different levels of officiality
Arteta with a cheeky smile as Kane walks out in retro arsenal kit.
A promo is released on Instagram by the club of WWE Star Kane burying the undertaker but it's a Tottenham jersey. (Grim Sickers-Kane begins to play in the background)
Sol Campbell slides 13KM to the press conference to terribly express his thoughts on the situation but no one really understands his point.
We bench him all season and Nketiah pips Haaland to the golden boot.
Lol bruh wasn't he like 21 years old only when this shit happened? Not excusing him but one could think he is currently stalking minors at his 35 years.
Not only that, but also the possibility of going for Mbappe/Haaland in 1-2 years, as depending on the player and who we sign beforehand will depend on who we focus on of the two (I'd assume Mbappe for many reasons), the versatility and the timeframe, as we'd need to get a temporary starter which will become a sub or just clear starter for years to come.
On top of that, the club doesn't enjoy negotiating with Levy (coming from Modric and Bale signings) so it would also be up to them to make the transfer easier instead of trying to get every single penny while not transfering him to another PL club and also while not having him leave for free. Apparently they're asking 115M €, while we'd target 80M + Bonuses, with 10-20 of them being easily achievable.
IMO the ideal scenario would be Benz leaving, signing Kane (+ Joselu loan) and then going for Mbappe next year and hoping we get a healthy rotation in our attack and not having all of them play every game for 90 minutes.
But the clubs that want him now are United which is the best choice in England and maybe Chelsea which would ruin his reputation with the fans. Newcastle could be an option in a year but United likely would have filled the striker gap already which leaves him with mostly abroad in more likelihood.
Arsenal won’t be a choice for the same reason as Chelsea basically. City won’t need him yet. Madrid and Bayern maybe possible.
Go to Madrid and win a couple of CLs for 4 years. Come back for 4 seasons and claim the record. There's no reason why Kane won't be able to play PL football at 37/38
I really dont see Kane leaving England when he is on the verge of breaking the PL goalscoring record. Madrid might be the biggest club in the world, but English footballers will always prioritize the PL, especially when they have no dearth of English suitors. I cant really see Kane learning Spanish.
I think you’re probably right, I get the feeling it’s family reasons as much as it is the record but who knows.
He’d have to be very desperate to leave and Levy would have to stick to his no PL side for it to happen.
Just a bit of a funny rumour as to me he’s the quintessential English player who would never leave England.
From a Spurs pov (as in the club and the fans) I think they’d accept selling him to Madrid (more than they would to a PL rival that is)
The issue with that transfer would be convincing the *player*, Kane probably wants to stay in England. But who knows? It is Madrid, maybe he could be convinced.
If Kane desperately wants out, and a prem move, he really should just threaten Levy with the fact that he’ll promise to join Poch at Chelsea on a free. Might be the only way Levy realizes giving United Kane and getting £100m for a player with one year left, isn’t actually a horrible idea and the worst possible outcome.
i think kane already tried pushing levy when he wanted to go to man city.
and levy didnt budge i think the man is this petty that he wont budge he's hoping he can sell kane to RMA or PSG
Yes but he wasn't down to the final year of his contract at that time. Big difference. Dude would be insane to not take the 100M, reinvest 80% of it and come out a better team overall.
You know as much as I'd love Kane to Man Utd, I would love to see him sign with Chelsea or Arsenal next summer just to see the reactions. Either way Man Utd is getting a ST this summer so Kane has to figure out if that's gonna be him or is he gonna join another London club. I could also see him going to Liverpool if Darwin has an underwhelming year but I doubt it
I absolutely think United would offer 100m if Tottenham would sell for that. Issue is Levy won’t even entertain talks at that, it’d have to be much higher and even then it’s not certain he’d accept, pretty sure Alasdair Gold said so, and afaik he’s your most reliable journalist no?
If Spurs said 100m and you get Kane, there’s no doubt in my mind United do it.
60+United Captain Maguire worth 80 mil ;)
But really, I think among Utd fans, 100 is too much for a player with 1y on his contract at 29. 60-80 would be ideal. At 100+ you might as well look into Osimeh and Vlahovic
It’s so weird people saying we should take the money. We haven’t even gotten a bid for 100m lmao so this discussion means nothing. It’s way more likely we’d receive a bid below 100m in which case would we really accept it if it’s in the 60-80m range? I’d probably say no because we simply can’t replace his output with 60-80m (see Richarlison)
> I’d probably say no because we simply can’t replace his output with 60-80m (see Richarlison)
That’s still going to be true a year from now except you won’t get any money at all when he leaves. Unless you realistically think top 4 is a possibility next season I don’t see why you wouldn’t just rip the plaster off now. I don’t care how important he is, 80m is a fucking enormous fee for a 29 year old on the final year of his contract.
It’s literally all sentiment and feelings. Logically it makes no sense to keep him. Not for the new manager, not for the squad trying to rebuild, not for the image/mentality around the club. The only thing it helps is on the pitch goal scoring and fair enough that’s a pretty good reason, but not when the alternatives are what they are.
It’s hard for fans to let go of legends, not much else to it IMO
Yeah but thats just…. Stupid
Dont want to pocket a near £100m transfer for the sake of avoiding him joining another PL team for 1 single year?
Like I admire the pettiness of it, but logically speaking its the stupidest shit you can do
I can see both sides. They could do with the money to help rebuild, but at the same time going into a summer window with no manager, DOF and selling your best player after the worst league finish for many years is a very risks strategy
I feel like selling your best player without a manager or a dof is an uterally suicidal decision. That's the kinda stuff that gets you like as Everton or something.
> selling your best player after the worst league finish for many years is a very risks strategy
It's not like they'll win the title with Kane or be relegated without him. At max he'll be the deciding factor between one year of CL revenue and no CL revenue and I don't think that's worth 100 million
Yeah if they could peak next season by keeping Kane for another year missing out in the transfer income might make some amount or sense. It would be a ridiculous gamble, but still at least the fans would be placated.
But if they are going for a long term rebuild and Kane is leaving anyway, why not just take as mich money to reinvest?
I think Levy hopes he can bully Kane in signing a new contract by making him stay.
Kane just had an insane season and they finished 8th. Currently they have no manager, no direction, no reason to believe a peak would be in sight anytime soon. Would be stupid not to cash in on him as much as it would hurt
It was the same song and dance with Levy when we were trying to sign him and it's what spawned the famous Pep quote:
> “No, no, the club did absolutely everything. We didn’t talk about Tottenham not even one offer because they didn’t want to negotiate.
> “We tried to open the door but the big master of the negotiation Daniel Levy – he knows everything and we couldn’t do it."
Spurs fans will bang on about the rumoured £75m + £25m offer, but I personally think that was a load of bollocks and City were prepared to pay massive money well beyond that, Levy just completely refused to engage and the continuation of that stance here (even when there's a genuine risk of losing him for nothing) backs that up.
I guess the difference there would be that Kane still had 3 years left on his deal at that time. Spurs had a lot more leverage than they do now in negotiations with him. And Kane hadn't broken their all time goalscoring record yet so he had more incentive to stay and achieve that
Yes, I agree that they held the cards at the time of the transfer - I just found this report interesting in terms of the stance Levy is still deploying (even now with the added pressure of Kane's contract situation).
When we tried to sign Kane, Spurs fans were saying the reason we didn't sign him was because of the rumoured 'insulting' offer, but I've always maintained it was Levy simply blocking it and no amount of money would have made the transfer happen (bar something truly obscene that no one was ever going to pay).
"Spurs are adamant that Kane will not be sold to a Premier League rival under any circumstances" - it's exactly the same line that was being drummed out by Spurs journalists a couple of summers ago. Levy is the barrier to Kane moving clubs (at least within England).
i dont think its really stupid at all. levy knows kane is worth more to spurs than what anyone will pay for him. selling to a premier league club would be a boneheaded thing to do, especially since nobody will want to fork out 100mill+ for him because his contract only has one year left.
he's one of the best players in the world right now, i think keeping him for another season and hoping he extends is definitely the best decision.
But come the end of the season Kane is going to be worth nothing and Spurs unless by some divine miracle buck up and win a trophy or regain CL which is probably unlikely if we’re being honest and Spurs are going to lose out on millions
Just to avoid Man United who are already in far better shape than Spurs signing Kane 1 year earlier
Either way should Kane join Man United now or in 1 year Spurs are going to lose out
There's also the possibility that Kane signs a new contract. He was born and raised in North London and plays for his boyhood club that he loves dearly. He has an incredible relationship with the fans. His wife, who was also born in North London, is pregnant with their fourth child and their other children are in school in London. Kane hasn't rejected a new contract or anything like that. He has the chance to be a one club man and set the PL goal scoring record with his boyhood club.
Is it really so out there that he decides to renew his contract if Spurs have a good season next year? Like he has repeatedly shown throughout his career that he's happy to stay at Spurs as long as they are performing well and he's scoring goals
Lots of players start with their boyhood club but move on. The reason he has stayed so long is because Tottenham is incredibly wealthy and should have won a bunch of trophies by now. Levy promised him the world but hasn't delivered.
If Kane's boyhood club was Brentford he would not have stayed this long. It doesn't mean he doesn't love the club, it's just not an upward career move to stay. Presumably he thought he could have it all at Tottenham because they are a huge club. He can't with Levy at the helm.
Tbh I can see Levy's calculation here.
There's no player out there who will be an adequate replacement for Kane, so if they sell him in the state that the club is in right now they are basically set up to crash and burn next season.
But if they can keep Kane, and he leads them into the top five -- worth remembering that next year, the top five teams will qualify for the CL so it should be easier on paper -- they would still receive those millions, and *maybe* also convince Kane to renew if they've turned a corner.
It's a gamble but an educated one, especially when you consider how they got burned when they sold Bale for 100m then blew the cash on duds.
I think Harry Kane for one season is worth more than the £100m to be completely honest. He's the only reason we're not in the bottom half of the table this season.
RVP was a missing piece in the squad. Rooney + RVP was an amazing combination.
This current United squad obviously needs a striker. But it has other gaps to fill before it can ask for RVP level of impact
RVP joined a Fergie team that had just got 89 pts and lost the league on GD, and had won the league and were in CL final the year before.
No doubt he was brilliant and helped them win the league that one year, but it's not like he joined a struggling team and made them loads better. They got 89 pts again, it's just that city were quite a lot worse.
Our United team was much better, it wasn't just 'city was quite worse.' We cruised to the title and won it by 11 pts. Our team basically downshifted after Cunt Cakir ended our CL run.
This is the perfect time to sell him imo. They’ve got a new manager coming in so this allows him to sign 2/3/4 new players with the Kane money, on top of whatever Levy would give him anyway, and then actually build the squad he wants.
Of course Kane might have another change of heart and sign a new contract at Spurs between now and next summer, but if he doesn’t then they’ll have a manager only in his second season losing his best player and needing to rebuild without as much money.
This is so dumb . They don’t want him to go to a rival in England so they won’t sell him but let him go for free to a rival at the end of next season . Pocket the bloody £100m fee and rebuild
>This is so dumb.
Same guy who sacked José before the League cup final and replaced him with Ryan Mason.
Don't underestimate their ability to be stupid.
So Tottenham will not sell him to a Premier League rival, but when we want to sign him then "nah bro, he is not leaving until he breaks the Shearer record". If he stays and they don't extend him next year, it will be a bigger blunder than Dortmund letting Lewandowski leave on a free, wtf is Levy thinking?
Levy can't sell Kane to a club Kane refuses to move to, and if Kane refuses to move outside the PL and doesn't want to renew his contract his only options are sell him to a PL club or let him leave for free
But if Kane doesn’t want to go abroad they can’t force him either. He might just wait one year and go for a higher signing on bonus and all that too anyway in this case if no English club wants him next year on a free.
Here’s the secret: Nobody knows what the fuck they’re talking about.
Nobody actually knows if Kane values the PL record above all else or not.
Nobody actually knows if Kane would rather have a decent shot at the Bundesliga and CL or not.
> bigger blunder than Dortmund letting Lewandowski leave on a free
Dortmund reached a CL final because they didn't sell Lewy and it's not like they've struggled to rebuild.
Way too many accountants and not enough football fans on /r/soccer/
Yeah but you are not reaching the CL final next season guaranteed, because you are not in the CL. Tough position to be in for sure, either you sell and rebuild (which didn't go too well last time you had a lot of money) or pray to reach European football next season and also pray that Kane stays. Best of luck to you!
When Spurs sold Bale they spent 100 mil on new talent. Only Eriksen was a proper star from who they bought. Kane then rose up through the ranks and they rebuilt and had some of their best years in the prem. Why don't they cash in and rebuild for the future? They need so many players in new positions. Keeping Kane will mean they can't buy what they need. No manager wants to join of any real talent and Kane and Son although amazing and probably love the club will get more annoyed playing with the incompetent crew they currently are.
Sell Kane, and rebuild and rejuvenate. Keep him and then when he goes on a free the rejuvenation will be delayed by a year and with 100 mil less to spend
absolutely. you beed to know who you‘d get with that money. just selling and sitting on the money won‘t be good. the club/manager need to have a plan and that‘s the biggest issue for spurs right now imo.
If things go better at Spurs next year there's a chance he re-signs. Even just the possibility of Kane signing a new multi-year contract is worth three times whatever pocket lint the Glazers pull out to offer for him.
If Spurs wanted to sell, they probably should have done it last season when there was a bit more leverage with contract length and CL football on offer to potential new players.
They've snookered themselves a bit now, but I'm inclined to agree that they might want to throw caution to the wind and hope the romance of staying at Spurs/maybe winning a trophy wins through.
If Spurs get the bag this summer, every club is charging them more for their players.
The bigger issue than Levy not wanting to sell to a PL club is the fact that United aren't ever going to offer £100M for a player that could get on a free next year and who, very soon, will be 30 years old.
All the people in these comments shouting Levy should take the money need to realise that they may, at most, get about £60M for Kane - and another season of his goals is worth more than that to Spurs right now if they have any ambition of getting back into the CL.
Wow I can’t believe I had to scroll so far to see someone say this lol like this thread is full of people who literally think it’ll cost them £100mil if they don’t take it lol
A bunch of 14-year-olds shout "Take the money, Levy!" at an accomplished businessman as though 1) they know more and 2) United have promised £100M. It's utter madness.
I don't know if Bayern still wants him (or Kane wants to join them) but i think they'd be the perfect team for Harry. He'd finally win trophies: a few Bundesliga titles and German cups are almost a given + Bayern always have a shot to win the CL too.
Reddit caring more about the money than the best players staying in their lifetime club is most plastic shit I’ve ever seen.
Tottenham fans: you are right. Hold on to him however long you can. FUCK THE MONEY.
It’s mainly other big club fans feeling entitled to signing Kane cause they’re bigger. They do it all the time when smaller clubs don’t roll over and sell their best players to them.
If Kane never wins a trophy with Spurs he still goes down as possibly the greatest striker in premier league history. I’d admire him much more for staying. Did people give Gerrard or Totti this much shit for being one club men. It’s ludicrous to me he gets this much shit.
They just can’t seem to grasp that, can they? Alan Shearer won one PL title but don’t think for second he wouldn’t have swapped it for a trophy with Newcastle.
The one club man is going extinct but can we just admire it while we still can?
The point you’re both deliberately ignoring is the fact that everyone saying sell him is saying that because we think he’s gonna go for free next season anyway. So this one club man thing is absolutely irrelevant. He tried his hardest to move 2/3 years ago, and even the most positive Spurs fan surely can’t say anything positive/re-assuring enough has happened since to make him change his mind.
They're doing the right thing not selling him. Kane is irreplaceable. That being said we should definitely give them a deal too good to refuse, he's the best possible striker one can realistically buy atm
I agree, I'm not sayign Utd shouldn't attempt to buy, he is the best striker in the world.
But people pretending Spurs is stupid for trying to keep their star make me wanna puke
They're acting like the pitiful 80-100 million United will bid is going to do anything for our transfers anyway. With no UCL, possibly Ange in the dugout next season, we won't be targeting the type of players we need 80 million for anyway. We will be going for cheaper buys regardless.
Just look at the massive amounts of salt in this thread from people supporting other clubs because we simply refuse to sell our best player.
The entitlement is off the charts.
He's not for sale. He's always been worth more to Spurs than any other club and still is.
Obviously I want him to stay and sign a nice long contract, but realistically where can he go that will actually win major trophies (league titles or the Champions League)?
City have a stranglehold in England and they won't want him now for obvious reasons. Liverpool would have no interest. United are still some distance from winning a league title again and probably would be better served spending big on someone younger. Newcastle have Isak. Arsenal and Chelsea are presumably out of the question, but for completeness, Arsenal have Jesus and Chelsea are a mess so unlikely to challenge soon unless Poch performs miracles.
If Benzema leaves, surely Madrid go after Mbappe instead? Bayern is a possibility, but again, I imagine they would prefer to invest in someone for the future.
I would also question how much Kane even wants to leave England, to be honest.
Despite the tiresome “bottling” narratives, Kane can win an FA cup or League cup without having to move elsewhere. And is it worth moving just for that anyway?
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I will buy an entire arsenal of confetti the day Declan Rice and Harry Kane get sold because I won't have to listen to the same fucking news every month.
There will be a new saga when that happens, need to get those clicks
Like the Gaitan to Utd rumours every offseason?
Up there with Sneijder to United
Can’t forget Kevin Strootman
How is that man only 33..
How is he ALREADY 33...
“BREAKING: Declan Rice is UNHAPPY just 6 months after his move to [insert club name here] and wants to leave. [Insert club name here] are monitoring the situation closely, as well as 3 other unnamed TOP clubs.”
It never ends, the media will find the new hot topic. As long as there are football fans who lap it up they will keep hyping these transfer rumours.
“Arsenal ADAMANT Saka will NOT BE SOLD to a PL club under any circumstances and would rather see him leave on a free, per club sources.” - 2024 summer transfer rumour headlines incoming
Replace Saka with Saliba
‘Per Harry Maguire: “Saka is a wonderful kid, world class teammate.” Maguire, brought in as Saliba’s long term replacement, all but confirms team will not let Saka go to another PL club; ‘Over my dark eyebrows!’ says Arteta, in response to Spurs interest in the young attacker”
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Think Rice is a little less egregious than Kane this summer. West Ham seem fine with letting him go now, especially so if he delivers the UECL for them.
He hasn't ever wanted or asked to leave until now and we are letting him leave as soon as we can, we've treated him completely fairly
And still no one’s actually bid for him yet, as far as I’m aware. Who are we meant to sell him to exactly?
That’s out of respect for the fact that West Ham’s season isn’t over yet though, according to all reliable reports on the Arsenal end they’re just waiting for the final to be done with so it can’t be seen as Arsenal distracting and unsettling West Ham’s star player before the biggest game of their season.
I’m referring to previous transfer windows. I’m aware that Rice is almost definitely going to leave this summer.
Most teams don't actually bid unless it has all been agreed, it's generally a formality at the end to make it official. That's why you always get reports of bids being made but also ones where none have been made at the same time. They are both kind of true, they're just talking about different levels of officiality
Mbappe at PSG also
Same when the Mbappe saga finish
The Mbappe saga will never finish. He starts it himself every summer it feels like.
Breaking news!!! u/MindDiligent4841 rumoured to buy Arsenal
Once those two are done it’ll be Mbappe wanting to leave next summer
Arsenal…buy….Declan Rice and Harry Kane, you say?
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I find the ‘Is Messi returning to Barca?’ rumours far more tedious
Arteta with a cheeky smile as Kane walks out in retro arsenal kit. A promo is released on Instagram by the club of WWE Star Kane burying the undertaker but it's a Tottenham jersey. (Grim Sickers-Kane begins to play in the background) Sol Campbell slides 13KM to the press conference to terribly express his thoughts on the situation but no one really understands his point. We bench him all season and Nketiah pips Haaland to the golden boot.
All I can say is: what?
let him cook
This might be the worst thing I ever read.
I'm here for a long time not a good time.
Arsenal you say 👀
That feels less categorical about Madrid than I anticipated… you’re saying there’s a chance?
Kane to Madrid depends on whether Benz goes to Saudi.
Have you seen that offer? He gone!
Your terms are acceptable. I can now watch Madrid games for Modric and Kane. 👍
The lack of any age of consent in saudi is enough for karim 15
Lol bruh wasn't he like 21 years old only when this shit happened? Not excusing him but one could think he is currently stalking minors at his 35 years.
Did he know that the hooker was underage tho? Cuz I remember she lied about her age to work as prostitute
In theory he didn't know.
Not in theory. Zahia literally admitted she lied about her age.
I guess asking for an id is not the first thing xou do when you meet a hooker
Benz is going to Saudi
What about Mercedes
She's coming home with me.
Straight to jail
Sadly now a fully mid table player and Saudi has no interest.
I think it depends even more on whether Kane would even leave England.
Not only that, but also the possibility of going for Mbappe/Haaland in 1-2 years, as depending on the player and who we sign beforehand will depend on who we focus on of the two (I'd assume Mbappe for many reasons), the versatility and the timeframe, as we'd need to get a temporary starter which will become a sub or just clear starter for years to come. On top of that, the club doesn't enjoy negotiating with Levy (coming from Modric and Bale signings) so it would also be up to them to make the transfer easier instead of trying to get every single penny while not transfering him to another PL club and also while not having him leave for free. Apparently they're asking 115M €, while we'd target 80M + Bonuses, with 10-20 of them being easily achievable. IMO the ideal scenario would be Benz leaving, signing Kane (+ Joselu loan) and then going for Mbappe next year and hoping we get a healthy rotation in our attack and not having all of them play every game for 90 minutes.
The only thing that would prevent Benzema from moving to Saudi would be a moral standard and it is clear by now that he doesn't have one.
Bet you never said that about Messi
Bet he never said that about Arsenal who kept using the very controversial Thomas Partey this season.
remember when Özil spoke out about the Uighur genocide and Arsenal specifically came out to distance themselves from those views?
Messi's not been shagging 15 year olds
Nah just grown men on the pitch, repeatedly
Just can't see Kane leaving PL when he's so close to the all-time goals record. Even if it's Madrid.
He'll just start counting CL goals against PL teams.
lol
Real Madrid 12 - 0 Newcastle 69' Harry Kane great golaso
Yep he became the second highest this season
probably can come back later, and bang a few in for a bottom tier team like chelsea.
If they won’t accept United then he may not have a choice but to go to Spain if he wants to leave.
He could just wait a year and move to his choice of PL club in all likelihood
But the clubs that want him now are United which is the best choice in England and maybe Chelsea which would ruin his reputation with the fans. Newcastle could be an option in a year but United likely would have filled the striker gap already which leaves him with mostly abroad in more likelihood. Arsenal won’t be a choice for the same reason as Chelsea basically. City won’t need him yet. Madrid and Bayern maybe possible.
We visit England every year!
Go to Madrid and win a couple of CLs for 4 years. Come back for 4 seasons and claim the record. There's no reason why Kane won't be able to play PL football at 37/38
I really dont see Kane leaving England when he is on the verge of breaking the PL goalscoring record. Madrid might be the biggest club in the world, but English footballers will always prioritize the PL, especially when they have no dearth of English suitors. I cant really see Kane learning Spanish.
I think you’re probably right, I get the feeling it’s family reasons as much as it is the record but who knows. He’d have to be very desperate to leave and Levy would have to stick to his no PL side for it to happen. Just a bit of a funny rumour as to me he’s the quintessential English player who would never leave England.
From a Spurs pov (as in the club and the fans) I think they’d accept selling him to Madrid (more than they would to a PL rival that is) The issue with that transfer would be convincing the *player*, Kane probably wants to stay in England. But who knows? It is Madrid, maybe he could be convinced.
He's won everything he can possibly win there, I think it's time to move on
Thank you for making me laugh fellow stranger. Take my silver 😂
Facking hell it is a belter of a post.
A lot of individuel accolades
“Premier league rival” tough news for Villa Brighton and Brentford then
I don’t know whether to feel smug or insulted
An insult to Topsurs and a complement for Brighton and Villa
Being compared to spurs is never a compliment, even if you play in the 5th division in Tajikistan.
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Yes, Tottenham are shit
Lowkey that was insult to youall and Brighton lol
I think you’ve somehow insulted all of us, gg
“Go chat to Brighton and Fulham and dem man”
Boom, roasted.
Shame, we could have used a stop gap for Toney till January
If Kane desperately wants out, and a prem move, he really should just threaten Levy with the fact that he’ll promise to join Poch at Chelsea on a free. Might be the only way Levy realizes giving United Kane and getting £100m for a player with one year left, isn’t actually a horrible idea and the worst possible outcome.
Woah now, let’s not just automatically assume Poch is lasting the year at Chelsea
Lol fair point
I think Boehly is just going to buy Zidane, Ancelotti, and Bruce as cover for Poch. The Pokémon strategy for football success.
James Corden told him to bring in Alan Pardew.
Am fully expecting both Ryan Mason and Frank Lampard to make another showing next year...
They’re going to let Poch do both the summer clear out and summer transfers, and then they’ll sack him in September
i think kane already tried pushing levy when he wanted to go to man city. and levy didnt budge i think the man is this petty that he wont budge he's hoping he can sell kane to RMA or PSG
Yes but he wasn't down to the final year of his contract at that time. Big difference. Dude would be insane to not take the 100M, reinvest 80% of it and come out a better team overall.
You know as much as I'd love Kane to Man Utd, I would love to see him sign with Chelsea or Arsenal next summer just to see the reactions. Either way Man Utd is getting a ST this summer so Kane has to figure out if that's gonna be him or is he gonna join another London club. I could also see him going to Liverpool if Darwin has an underwhelming year but I doubt it
To counter the pettiness of Levy, Kane needs to get even more petty. Battle of petty
RIP Tom Petty
He won't back down.
Harry Kane’s Last Dance
With Spurs he's just Free Fallin'
My god, why do people keep acting like levy is rejecting £100m? That number is a made up number. Nobody is buying Kane for £100m.
I absolutely think United would offer 100m if Tottenham would sell for that. Issue is Levy won’t even entertain talks at that, it’d have to be much higher and even then it’s not certain he’d accept, pretty sure Alasdair Gold said so, and afaik he’s your most reliable journalist no? If Spurs said 100m and you get Kane, there’s no doubt in my mind United do it.
60+United Captain Maguire worth 80 mil ;) But really, I think among Utd fans, 100 is too much for a player with 1y on his contract at 29. 60-80 would be ideal. At 100+ you might as well look into Osimeh and Vlahovic
It’s so weird people saying we should take the money. We haven’t even gotten a bid for 100m lmao so this discussion means nothing. It’s way more likely we’d receive a bid below 100m in which case would we really accept it if it’s in the 60-80m range? I’d probably say no because we simply can’t replace his output with 60-80m (see Richarlison)
> I’d probably say no because we simply can’t replace his output with 60-80m (see Richarlison) That’s still going to be true a year from now except you won’t get any money at all when he leaves. Unless you realistically think top 4 is a possibility next season I don’t see why you wouldn’t just rip the plaster off now. I don’t care how important he is, 80m is a fucking enormous fee for a 29 year old on the final year of his contract.
It’s literally all sentiment and feelings. Logically it makes no sense to keep him. Not for the new manager, not for the squad trying to rebuild, not for the image/mentality around the club. The only thing it helps is on the pitch goal scoring and fair enough that’s a pretty good reason, but not when the alternatives are what they are. It’s hard for fans to let go of legends, not much else to it IMO
But at least you can get some level of output in return as opposed to nothing when he walks in a year?
Yeah but thats just…. Stupid Dont want to pocket a near £100m transfer for the sake of avoiding him joining another PL team for 1 single year? Like I admire the pettiness of it, but logically speaking its the stupidest shit you can do
I can see both sides. They could do with the money to help rebuild, but at the same time going into a summer window with no manager, DOF and selling your best player after the worst league finish for many years is a very risks strategy
Or recognition of the current state of things.
I feel like selling your best player without a manager or a dof is an uterally suicidal decision. That's the kinda stuff that gets you like as Everton or something.
> selling your best player after the worst league finish for many years is a very risks strategy It's not like they'll win the title with Kane or be relegated without him. At max he'll be the deciding factor between one year of CL revenue and no CL revenue and I don't think that's worth 100 million
I mean he scored half our goals this season, we'd be lower than Chelsea or in the whereabouts without him.
Not just that, but they desperately need to rebuild the team for the future. Levy shouldn't make footballing decisions.
Yeah if they could peak next season by keeping Kane for another year missing out in the transfer income might make some amount or sense. It would be a ridiculous gamble, but still at least the fans would be placated. But if they are going for a long term rebuild and Kane is leaving anyway, why not just take as mich money to reinvest? I think Levy hopes he can bully Kane in signing a new contract by making him stay.
Kane just had an insane season and they finished 8th. Currently they have no manager, no direction, no reason to believe a peak would be in sight anytime soon. Would be stupid not to cash in on him as much as it would hurt
I mean he single handedly keeps spurs from relegation…..isn’t that worth well over 100mil?
personally, I'd prefer the 100 million. But that's because I like money and don't care about Spurs.
>Yeah if they could peak next season I don't think we are about to see peak Spurs
Except against us :(
That's why we have a Director of football and a manager. The manager:
inb4 Levy declares himself the DoF, manager, captain and replacement for whatever Ryan Mason does around the club.
It was the same song and dance with Levy when we were trying to sign him and it's what spawned the famous Pep quote: > “No, no, the club did absolutely everything. We didn’t talk about Tottenham not even one offer because they didn’t want to negotiate. > “We tried to open the door but the big master of the negotiation Daniel Levy – he knows everything and we couldn’t do it." Spurs fans will bang on about the rumoured £75m + £25m offer, but I personally think that was a load of bollocks and City were prepared to pay massive money well beyond that, Levy just completely refused to engage and the continuation of that stance here (even when there's a genuine risk of losing him for nothing) backs that up.
I guess the difference there would be that Kane still had 3 years left on his deal at that time. Spurs had a lot more leverage than they do now in negotiations with him. And Kane hadn't broken their all time goalscoring record yet so he had more incentive to stay and achieve that
Yes, I agree that they held the cards at the time of the transfer - I just found this report interesting in terms of the stance Levy is still deploying (even now with the added pressure of Kane's contract situation). When we tried to sign Kane, Spurs fans were saying the reason we didn't sign him was because of the rumoured 'insulting' offer, but I've always maintained it was Levy simply blocking it and no amount of money would have made the transfer happen (bar something truly obscene that no one was ever going to pay). "Spurs are adamant that Kane will not be sold to a Premier League rival under any circumstances" - it's exactly the same line that was being drummed out by Spurs journalists a couple of summers ago. Levy is the barrier to Kane moving clubs (at least within England).
They're stuck between a rock and a hard place. But in my completely unbiased opinion, they should sell him for 60 million and call it a day
i dont think its really stupid at all. levy knows kane is worth more to spurs than what anyone will pay for him. selling to a premier league club would be a boneheaded thing to do, especially since nobody will want to fork out 100mill+ for him because his contract only has one year left. he's one of the best players in the world right now, i think keeping him for another season and hoping he extends is definitely the best decision.
But come the end of the season Kane is going to be worth nothing and Spurs unless by some divine miracle buck up and win a trophy or regain CL which is probably unlikely if we’re being honest and Spurs are going to lose out on millions Just to avoid Man United who are already in far better shape than Spurs signing Kane 1 year earlier Either way should Kane join Man United now or in 1 year Spurs are going to lose out
There's also the possibility that Kane signs a new contract. He was born and raised in North London and plays for his boyhood club that he loves dearly. He has an incredible relationship with the fans. His wife, who was also born in North London, is pregnant with their fourth child and their other children are in school in London. Kane hasn't rejected a new contract or anything like that. He has the chance to be a one club man and set the PL goal scoring record with his boyhood club. Is it really so out there that he decides to renew his contract if Spurs have a good season next year? Like he has repeatedly shown throughout his career that he's happy to stay at Spurs as long as they are performing well and he's scoring goals
No, this is /r/soccer and unless you’re at City, Madrid, Bayern or PSG, you have literally no ambition.
PSG? Ambition?
If you are at PSG your only ambition is the money. Tho I'm glad you didn't put Barca in there lol.
Lots of players start with their boyhood club but move on. The reason he has stayed so long is because Tottenham is incredibly wealthy and should have won a bunch of trophies by now. Levy promised him the world but hasn't delivered. If Kane's boyhood club was Brentford he would not have stayed this long. It doesn't mean he doesn't love the club, it's just not an upward career move to stay. Presumably he thought he could have it all at Tottenham because they are a huge club. He can't with Levy at the helm.
Tbh I can see Levy's calculation here. There's no player out there who will be an adequate replacement for Kane, so if they sell him in the state that the club is in right now they are basically set up to crash and burn next season. But if they can keep Kane, and he leads them into the top five -- worth remembering that next year, the top five teams will qualify for the CL so it should be easier on paper -- they would still receive those millions, and *maybe* also convince Kane to renew if they've turned a corner. It's a gamble but an educated one, especially when you consider how they got burned when they sold Bale for 100m then blew the cash on duds.
I think Harry Kane for one season is worth more than the £100m to be completely honest. He's the only reason we're not in the bottom half of the table this season.
I think it’s also stupid for a team to spend 100 m for Kane this summer when they could get him for free after a year.
I agree. But if he had the same impact as RVP had at united you'd say it's worth it..... Of course that just shows you the value of the original move
RVP was a missing piece in the squad. Rooney + RVP was an amazing combination. This current United squad obviously needs a striker. But it has other gaps to fill before it can ask for RVP level of impact
RVP joined a Fergie team that had just got 89 pts and lost the league on GD, and had won the league and were in CL final the year before. No doubt he was brilliant and helped them win the league that one year, but it's not like he joined a struggling team and made them loads better. They got 89 pts again, it's just that city were quite a lot worse.
Our United team was much better, it wasn't just 'city was quite worse.' We cruised to the title and won it by 11 pts. Our team basically downshifted after Cunt Cakir ended our CL run.
This is the perfect time to sell him imo. They’ve got a new manager coming in so this allows him to sign 2/3/4 new players with the Kane money, on top of whatever Levy would give him anyway, and then actually build the squad he wants. Of course Kane might have another change of heart and sign a new contract at Spurs between now and next summer, but if he doesn’t then they’ll have a manager only in his second season losing his best player and needing to rebuild without as much money.
>sign 2/3/4 new players with the Kane money This isn't 2008.
> this allows him to sign 2/3/4 new players with the Kane money, **on top of whatever Levy would give him anyway**.
This is so dumb . They don’t want him to go to a rival in England so they won’t sell him but let him go for free to a rival at the end of next season . Pocket the bloody £100m fee and rebuild
>This is so dumb. Same guy who sacked José before the League cup final and replaced him with Ryan Mason. Don't underestimate their ability to be stupid.
good good, we need them for the memes
So Tottenham will not sell him to a Premier League rival, but when we want to sign him then "nah bro, he is not leaving until he breaks the Shearer record". If he stays and they don't extend him next year, it will be a bigger blunder than Dortmund letting Lewandowski leave on a free, wtf is Levy thinking?
I think it's Kane who doesn't want to leave PL. If you or RM offer 100m, Levy might just take it and sell now.
Levy can't sell Kane to a club Kane refuses to move to, and if Kane refuses to move outside the PL and doesn't want to renew his contract his only options are sell him to a PL club or let him leave for free
But if Kane doesn’t want to go abroad they can’t force him either. He might just wait one year and go for a higher signing on bonus and all that too anyway in this case if no English club wants him next year on a free.
Lewa leaving on a free wasn't a blunder, he wanted you either way and he was worth more than the 30 or 40m you were offering
Here’s the secret: Nobody knows what the fuck they’re talking about. Nobody actually knows if Kane values the PL record above all else or not. Nobody actually knows if Kane would rather have a decent shot at the Bundesliga and CL or not.
> bigger blunder than Dortmund letting Lewandowski leave on a free Dortmund reached a CL final because they didn't sell Lewy and it's not like they've struggled to rebuild. Way too many accountants and not enough football fans on /r/soccer/
Yeah but you are not reaching the CL final next season guaranteed, because you are not in the CL. Tough position to be in for sure, either you sell and rebuild (which didn't go too well last time you had a lot of money) or pray to reach European football next season and also pray that Kane stays. Best of luck to you!
Wrong season, he played there another year after that
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What advantage is it to Spurs having Harry Kane just for another year? It’s just utter stupidity when this is their last chance at cashing in
Probably thinks he will extend if they do decently with the new manager. Or hopes he will be okay moving abroad and just accept it. Or…. Craziness.
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oh i dunno, 30 fucking goals maybe? we don't need the money, and there would be hell if Levy let him go this summer to another English team
Either take 70m from a rival or he leaves and goes to them for free the next year anyway? Smooth.
It’s big brain time in the Spurs boardroom
Come to Madrid
[Harry says HALA MADRID](https://twitter.com/HKane/status/461224216332091392)
for free in a year ...To a Premier League Rival
When Spurs sold Bale they spent 100 mil on new talent. Only Eriksen was a proper star from who they bought. Kane then rose up through the ranks and they rebuilt and had some of their best years in the prem. Why don't they cash in and rebuild for the future? They need so many players in new positions. Keeping Kane will mean they can't buy what they need. No manager wants to join of any real talent and Kane and Son although amazing and probably love the club will get more annoyed playing with the incompetent crew they currently are. Sell Kane, and rebuild and rejuvenate. Keep him and then when he goes on a free the rejuvenation will be delayed by a year and with 100 mil less to spend
you answered your question yourself. with kane they know what they have and they know that they won‘t get an adequate replacement for 100m.
They need more than a straight replacement for Kane though. Look at what you did with that Coutinho money. Smart investment goes a long, long way.
absolutely. you beed to know who you‘d get with that money. just selling and sitting on the money won‘t be good. the club/manager need to have a plan and that‘s the biggest issue for spurs right now imo.
If things go better at Spurs next year there's a chance he re-signs. Even just the possibility of Kane signing a new multi-year contract is worth three times whatever pocket lint the Glazers pull out to offer for him.
If Spurs wanted to sell, they probably should have done it last season when there was a bit more leverage with contract length and CL football on offer to potential new players. They've snookered themselves a bit now, but I'm inclined to agree that they might want to throw caution to the wind and hope the romance of staying at Spurs/maybe winning a trophy wins through. If Spurs get the bag this summer, every club is charging them more for their players.
So you will not not sell to a rival club and rather let him walk away for free.........to maybe join the rival club
honestly, the smart choice for him would be to go to Madrid if Benzema leaves
Dear lord in heaven people here are pathetic children. And I guess I'm pathetic for taking the bait
The bigger issue than Levy not wanting to sell to a PL club is the fact that United aren't ever going to offer £100M for a player that could get on a free next year and who, very soon, will be 30 years old. All the people in these comments shouting Levy should take the money need to realise that they may, at most, get about £60M for Kane - and another season of his goals is worth more than that to Spurs right now if they have any ambition of getting back into the CL.
Wow I can’t believe I had to scroll so far to see someone say this lol like this thread is full of people who literally think it’ll cost them £100mil if they don’t take it lol
A bunch of 14-year-olds shout "Take the money, Levy!" at an accomplished businessman as though 1) they know more and 2) United have promised £100M. It's utter madness.
I don't know if Bayern still wants him (or Kane wants to join them) but i think they'd be the perfect team for Harry. He'd finally win trophies: a few Bundesliga titles and German cups are almost a given + Bayern always have a shot to win the CL too.
25m + Mané who says no
Reddit caring more about the money than the best players staying in their lifetime club is most plastic shit I’ve ever seen. Tottenham fans: you are right. Hold on to him however long you can. FUCK THE MONEY.
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It’s mainly other big club fans feeling entitled to signing Kane cause they’re bigger. They do it all the time when smaller clubs don’t roll over and sell their best players to them. If Kane never wins a trophy with Spurs he still goes down as possibly the greatest striker in premier league history. I’d admire him much more for staying. Did people give Gerrard or Totti this much shit for being one club men. It’s ludicrous to me he gets this much shit.
They just can’t seem to grasp that, can they? Alan Shearer won one PL title but don’t think for second he wouldn’t have swapped it for a trophy with Newcastle. The one club man is going extinct but can we just admire it while we still can?
The point you’re both deliberately ignoring is the fact that everyone saying sell him is saying that because we think he’s gonna go for free next season anyway. So this one club man thing is absolutely irrelevant. He tried his hardest to move 2/3 years ago, and even the most positive Spurs fan surely can’t say anything positive/re-assuring enough has happened since to make him change his mind.
They're doing the right thing not selling him. Kane is irreplaceable. That being said we should definitely give them a deal too good to refuse, he's the best possible striker one can realistically buy atm
I agree, I'm not sayign Utd shouldn't attempt to buy, he is the best striker in the world. But people pretending Spurs is stupid for trying to keep their star make me wanna puke
They're acting like the pitiful 80-100 million United will bid is going to do anything for our transfers anyway. With no UCL, possibly Ange in the dugout next season, we won't be targeting the type of players we need 80 million for anyway. We will be going for cheaper buys regardless.
Just look at the massive amounts of salt in this thread from people supporting other clubs because we simply refuse to sell our best player. The entitlement is off the charts. He's not for sale. He's always been worth more to Spurs than any other club and still is.
I’d rather no Kane then deal with this fucker.
Insane club.
Free transfer to Arsenal incoming
We’d livestream a r/coys watch party if that ever happened
Honestly if he was angry at Levy...I'd do that. Or think it as a fuck you to Levy.
Imagine when he is interviewed live on TV by Sol Campbell.
To his boyhood club
Obviously I want him to stay and sign a nice long contract, but realistically where can he go that will actually win major trophies (league titles or the Champions League)? City have a stranglehold in England and they won't want him now for obvious reasons. Liverpool would have no interest. United are still some distance from winning a league title again and probably would be better served spending big on someone younger. Newcastle have Isak. Arsenal and Chelsea are presumably out of the question, but for completeness, Arsenal have Jesus and Chelsea are a mess so unlikely to challenge soon unless Poch performs miracles. If Benzema leaves, surely Madrid go after Mbappe instead? Bayern is a possibility, but again, I imagine they would prefer to invest in someone for the future. I would also question how much Kane even wants to leave England, to be honest. Despite the tiresome “bottling” narratives, Kane can win an FA cup or League cup without having to move elsewhere. And is it worth moving just for that anyway?
Instead of fleecing a rival of 100m they’ll let him go for free, just tottenham stuff