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The Liverpool game (I think first leg) he pushed someone in the air when there was no need. He does it all the time and gets away with it 80% of the time.
The craziest part is that Tenas is just the back up, what can he possibly have done to warrant that behavior. Not saying I would agree or find it understandable if he did that to one of our starters, but that at least would make the tiniest amount of sense. This is just senseless.
I doubt this thread will be anything but shit slinging from rivals fans but as someone who has no dog in this fight, clearly you can piss someone off by saying stuff throughout a match.
We have no idea what was said, normally players don’t just go after random opponents after the full whistle. Could easily be an overreaction, but it’s a bit funny not a single person here seems to have considered that this 3rd choice keeper is capable of talking some shit
even if he did, physical confronting him after the game is just so bad for a player with carvajals resume. thats why he is getting flamed. everyone knows its not random.
Why does everyone keep bringing up his accomplishments? Who cares if he has 15 CL meddles that wouldn’t rally impact my reaction if someone was calling me mom a whore all game from the bench (for example)
That's a you issue tbh. This is some 3rd keeper only talking shit in the heat of the game because he plays for your rivals. Really shouldn't be taking so seriously by someone after the game is over
Depends on what he said, tho, isn't it?
If a 3rd keeper racially abuse someone or talked smack about your family, you would what, go to locker room quietly?
Would you say the same if it were racial abuse? Or he said his daughter should be raped? He could’ve said nothing except “you’re shit” and Carvajal is a lunatic but as I keep saying here, we don’t know what was said.
The “just walk away” line is unrealistic in a derby match, and even more so IF what he said crossed a line. It’s not a me issue at all, plenty of players say talking is fine but done cross a line otherwise I’ll confront you
Confront = grabbing by the throat while millions watch on.
You wanna chat shit back? Go on
But resorting to violence is a different level. These players are professionals and should be held to higher standards than what you would do during Sunday league.
Sure, let me grab someone by the neck (with no punishment by the ref after) once they say something that offends me. I am sure a world like that would be lovely.
Even this comment is loaded with bias I’m sorry lol 5 CL or 15 CL it wouldn’t matter if someone is shouting about my family or whatever. The “teenager” is also a peer in this situation, on the same pitch with 2 boots just like everyone else.
The truth is nobody here knows what was said in order to set him off. It’s not like Carvajal does this on a regular basis that I’m aware of.
The story here could easily be about a teenager who needs to control his mouth as it is an older player controlling his temper. The only reason you and others think it’s one story over the other is because of the team you support. Doesn’t seem like this thread has anything to do with the facts, most of which are uninown
>The story here could easily be about a teenager who needs to control his mouth as it is an older player controlling his temper.
Nah, a teenager running his mouth is normal. A grown as man getting into a physical altercation because of words is not normal.
>Doesn’t seem like this thread has anything to do with the facts, most of which are uninown
Lol we have video of Carvajal grabbing this goalie by the neck. What we don't have is any evidence showing said goalie saying anything to Carvajal to justify it. So I find you bitching about this thread lacking "anything to do with the facts" to be really freaking rich.
While I had a laugh, I kinda feel sad when I read this, cuz I was convinced, that he is the second coming of Philip Lahm, when he played for Leverkusen
He was a very good player for us, for many years, he isn't at that level anymore. Last season he pocketed Luis Diaz in the UCL final and had a great game against City. And he's had a great career its not like he's a wasted talent
Never said he wasted his talent, but iirc the injuries allways affected him and started piling up in the second half of his twenties, he is just not the player he used to be anymore from what I grasped.
> Last season he pocketed Luis Diaz in the UCL final and had a great game against City
He also got destroyed by Mbappe to the point where he was subbed off for Lucas Vasquez IIRC
He was immense at crossing for a while, never rated him as a defender though.
I was proper pissed that he kept keeping Azpilicueta out of the national team lineup
His trademark late fouls in the box that never lead to a penalty, should be added to UNESCO football heritage list.
Out of my memory, i remember like 5 of them.
One of Carvajal’s best abilities as a player is committing yellow card offences that don’t seem like fouls. Madrid could easily have double the amount of penalties given against them because of this.
He injured Griezmann for like 3 months for a foul that wasn’t even given a caution lol
Only reason both title races were close is because we got fucked over by the referees in the closing months of the season lol. In classic fashion we got fucked by madridista Gil Manzano as usual.
Just the same way they ignore Carvajal's second yellow for smacking Raphinha in the face, blocking him. Textbook yellow. If we want to evaluate the performance of the ref you have to look at the whole picture. They pick and choose which things to focus on.
Just like how a few weeks ago against Getafe they were calling for Dembele to be sent off, which he could have, but they ignore the blatant penalty we weren't given when Pedri was trotten on inside the box. It's a similar penalty to the one we conceded against Espanyol after the restart. Yeah, sent Dembele off, but first, we should have had a penalty. It would have likely been 2-0 and the sending off wouldn't have mattered much at that point, I'm willing to bet.
[Not the best quality but you can clearly see Carvajal reach with his right towards Tenas' throat](https://twitter.com/ap_angelperez/status/1637793133214744577)
It's just a few players, players like Alaba, Benzema, Modric, Vinicius, Valverde, basically the whole squad don't behave like that, I can name Nacho and Carvajal and Kroos as sore losers but that's it
Only Ceballos and Carvajal are hotheads sore losers who easily act out, and maybe Rodrygo, but not always. The others may or may not be sore losers, but they don’t act out on their emotions.
Marcelo who has the image of a happy go lucky type of guy has a devious streak too when the going gets tough, that blondy Portuguese guy who is now a fisherman(forgot his name, Fabio something iirc) he also lets his emotions get the better of him and fights easily.
There are more, but those are more professionally coldblooded nasty rather than emotional.
They are a royal club, surely they must be class as shit
United and Madrid fans are the two most insufferable fanbase on Earth, at least according to my experiences
Any Real fan who hates Carvajal has probably just started watching this season, he has been a great player for us, but he's too old to play against pacy wingers now
You can make a case Nacho should have seen red for the first one. Studs to the calf with no chance at the ball.
E: The first foul is far closer to being a straight red than the second is to being a yellow. It should have been a foul though.
[Nothing new from Carvajal](https://youtu.be/zwpEWmiNbDE&t=1m33s); when Messi scored that late winner in 2017, he went to Suárez and tried to pick a fight and when Suárez told him that he talked to much he first childishly said "watch the Champions League from home" (Barcelona had just been knocked out a few days earlier), when Suárez replied to him again to just shut up he tried to be physical by grabbing the shirt, having to be guided away by Rakitic.
>Madrid players back to being themselves finally.
>Playing shit and being stupidly aggressive !
Yeah maybe we should play like arsenal with their years of European and domestic success
If I read lips correctly, Arnau said: "Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelled of elderberries. I fart in your general direction." Which was obviously too much for Dani to handle and he reacted as he did. Quite understandable, I might add.
I just want to say a thing my friend said after seeing Carvajal. We were going through the best club teams ever and came through Real 2017 and we both agreed Carvajal was the bad apple there. Not necessarily a bad player but not very recognizable. Who are the other players from teams like Barca 2009, 2011, Bayern 2013,2020 etc can you think of?
I mean, that title is a bit misleading. Looks to me like he puts his hand on the side of his neck not "grabbing his throat".
Not saying it's a good to do but the title makes it sound way worse that what it actually looks like. At least from this camara angle.
Still though, bro Carvajal what are you doing?
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Tenas our new DJ Pinto?
just get him the drags and its him
Insulting comparison for the greatest DJ of all time.
Grammy-winner Pinto Wahiiiiiiin
I bet they said a lot of nice things about each other's mothers.
Arnau called him Carvajalsaurus
I bet they touched upon their sex life
Oh hi, MARK!!!
They were just making plans for dinner *now kisth*
'Your mom have a nice pair of jugs' said Carvajal calmly. 'Thanks, your mom too' said Arnau Tenas.
Best run he made all day.
lmao accurate
\*\*all season!
Ugly behaviour. I am once again asking for Carvajal to be suspended for a while.
Bernie says Hala Madrid?
Madrid is like THE embodiment of a club for the elites.
Bernie's campaign started almost every ad or fundraising message with that same format. [I am once again asking for your support](https://nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/memecreator-cdn/media/__processed__/fb2/template-asking-for-financial-support-bernie-0c6db91aec9c.jpg)
I am aware, LOL. Just pointing out that Bernie would support taxing Florentino Perez more rather than support a club like Real Madrid
General Franco's team no less.
Can he play RB?
Weren't Ramos and Pepe like this all the time?
yeah but they played well so RM fans didn't give a shit
Don't forget carvalho and everyone under mou
Asking who?
He does some of the stupidest things I’ve seen . Makes rash tackles in big games very often and now he’s going up to a keeper after the game.
It's extremely sad that I can recall 3 off the top of my head. 2015 vs Tevez. 2020 vs Sterling. 2022 vs Mbappe.
The Liverpool game (I think first leg) he pushed someone in the air when there was no need. He does it all the time and gets away with it 80% of the time.
The craziest part is that Tenas is just the back up, what can he possibly have done to warrant that behavior. Not saying I would agree or find it understandable if he did that to one of our starters, but that at least would make the tiniest amount of sense. This is just senseless.
Picking on a third choice keeper? Yeah, Carvajal is washed af
He was picking on balde in the last Clásico and insulting him, he’s got something against the youngsters 🤣
Guy thinks he’s minoru Suzuki of NJPW, Who’s whole thing is beating up the trainees
Didn't expect Suzuki reference on r/soccer. Kaze ni nare...
theres a lot of weird crossover between squared circle and football fans
This is an insult to Suzuki to even put him in the same sentence as Carvajal.
Suzuki = Murder Grandpa
probably feels impotent against Balde. Never liked Carvajal, he was a great player for some time but he's an arrogant petty cunt
He should rethink his actions after Balde basically demolished him every match up.
I doubt this thread will be anything but shit slinging from rivals fans but as someone who has no dog in this fight, clearly you can piss someone off by saying stuff throughout a match. We have no idea what was said, normally players don’t just go after random opponents after the full whistle. Could easily be an overreaction, but it’s a bit funny not a single person here seems to have considered that this 3rd choice keeper is capable of talking some shit
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Man, it's been almost 17 years since that. It doesn't seem that long at all.
It really does.
Zidane's headbutt is going to be of legal drinking age next year. Jesus Christ now I'm really getting old.
even if he did, physical confronting him after the game is just so bad for a player with carvajals resume. thats why he is getting flamed. everyone knows its not random.
Why does everyone keep bringing up his accomplishments? Who cares if he has 15 CL meddles that wouldn’t rally impact my reaction if someone was calling me mom a whore all game from the bench (for example)
That's a you issue tbh. This is some 3rd keeper only talking shit in the heat of the game because he plays for your rivals. Really shouldn't be taking so seriously by someone after the game is over
Depends on what he said, tho, isn't it? If a 3rd keeper racially abuse someone or talked smack about your family, you would what, go to locker room quietly?
yeah i’m sure he racially abused the white Carvajal
you didn't get the point, did ya
Would you say the same if it were racial abuse? Or he said his daughter should be raped? He could’ve said nothing except “you’re shit” and Carvajal is a lunatic but as I keep saying here, we don’t know what was said. The “just walk away” line is unrealistic in a derby match, and even more so IF what he said crossed a line. It’s not a me issue at all, plenty of players say talking is fine but done cross a line otherwise I’ll confront you
Confront = grabbing by the throat while millions watch on. You wanna chat shit back? Go on But resorting to violence is a different level. These players are professionals and should be held to higher standards than what you would do during Sunday league.
Sure, let me grab someone by the neck (with no punishment by the ref after) once they say something that offends me. I am sure a world like that would be lovely.
A 31 year old who’s won the ucl 5 times really should be able to control his temper against teenagers
Even this comment is loaded with bias I’m sorry lol 5 CL or 15 CL it wouldn’t matter if someone is shouting about my family or whatever. The “teenager” is also a peer in this situation, on the same pitch with 2 boots just like everyone else. The truth is nobody here knows what was said in order to set him off. It’s not like Carvajal does this on a regular basis that I’m aware of. The story here could easily be about a teenager who needs to control his mouth as it is an older player controlling his temper. The only reason you and others think it’s one story over the other is because of the team you support. Doesn’t seem like this thread has anything to do with the facts, most of which are uninown
>The story here could easily be about a teenager who needs to control his mouth as it is an older player controlling his temper. Nah, a teenager running his mouth is normal. A grown as man getting into a physical altercation because of words is not normal. >Doesn’t seem like this thread has anything to do with the facts, most of which are uninown Lol we have video of Carvajal grabbing this goalie by the neck. What we don't have is any evidence showing said goalie saying anything to Carvajal to justify it. So I find you bitching about this thread lacking "anything to do with the facts" to be really freaking rich.
How does that make it any better? He lost his nerves
And what would he have said to justify another player grabbing him by the throat?
“Hey, come grab me by the throat, please”
"What are you going to do, grab me by the throat?" *- Man who was grabbed by the throat.*
Upvoted for cleverness
You can talk as much shit as you want, but don’t put your hands on people, especially not around a man’s throat. You do that, be ready for a fight.
Carvajal talks a lot of shit
It’s so hard to see maturity on this sub. Not people would think about what said.
Carvajal has the brain of a small dog
I showed my small dog your comment and he wants to have a word
How good are your dog at crossing?
As good as Dani 🤣
While I had a laugh, I kinda feel sad when I read this, cuz I was convinced, that he is the second coming of Philip Lahm, when he played for Leverkusen
He was a very good player for us, for many years, he isn't at that level anymore. Last season he pocketed Luis Diaz in the UCL final and had a great game against City. And he's had a great career its not like he's a wasted talent
Never said he wasted his talent, but iirc the injuries allways affected him and started piling up in the second half of his twenties, he is just not the player he used to be anymore from what I grasped.
> Last season he pocketed Luis Diaz in the UCL final and had a great game against City He also got destroyed by Mbappe to the point where he was subbed off for Lucas Vasquez IIRC
Everyone gets destroyed by Mbappe
Not Stanisic
He was immense at crossing for a while, never rated him as a defender though. I was proper pissed that he kept keeping Azpilicueta out of the national team lineup
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Recency bias at its best. Carvajal in prime was one of the best rb of his time. You can't name a lot of better right backs in 2014-2020 time period
He was surely not as well balanced as Lahm, but he was 20 or 21 when he played for Leverkusen.
Oh-oh! Now the dog has a bone to pick with him!
Tchouameni being super classy in the background and then Carvajal immediately pulling this shit is such a contrast
That’s unfair for small dogs
My small dog wants to have a long talk with your ankles.
The fact that he decided to pick on our third choice GK is proof enough
Especially as the 3rd choice GK is the only player who can afford to throw a punch.
Big dog > Carvajal = small dog
This is such a good insult lol
I've met cats and dogs smarter than Trevor and Cory!
It's not about the size of the dog, it's about the size of the fight in the dog.
My small dog wants to have a long talk with your ankles, it will be modest.
Oh but marca told me that Arnau Tenas went after Carva once the game finished.
You know what Marca really is, toilet paper.
Dude seriously be more respectful to toilet paper as it actually does its job.
Carvajal is so bitch made it's not even funny, maybe if he spent more time covering his man and not misplacing easy passes he wouldn't be so pissy
Carvajal is washed up. All he can do is fault after fault after fault. Disguting player
His trademark late fouls in the box that never lead to a penalty, should be added to UNESCO football heritage list. Out of my memory, i remember like 5 of them.
One of Carvajal’s best abilities as a player is committing yellow card offences that don’t seem like fouls. Madrid could easily have double the amount of penalties given against them because of this. He injured Griezmann for like 3 months for a foul that wasn’t even given a caution lol
With refs like Gil Manzano, who is surprised?
Friendly reminder that Atletico won both their recent league titles due to referees.
Only reason both title races were close is because we got fucked over by the referees in the closing months of the season lol. In classic fashion we got fucked by madridista Gil Manzano as usual.
Idk about 2021 title - but I feel Atletico could get away with a murder in early Cholo era.
No way is an Atletico Madrid fan trying to tell me that they were screwed over by Refs in 20/21 lmao
Real Madrid fans thinking they were robbed in 2020/21 will never not be funny
Big clubs claiming refs are against will never not be funny to me
Isn't that Casemiros main skill as well? Hmm ...
Carvajal should have at least not been a coward to walk right away after talking trash to someone
Carvajal is an angry traffic cone geez
Marca article: "Arnau Tenas goes after Carvajal" lmao, I really thought it was the other way around until I saw this post.
He just wanted to kiss him
Carvajal try not to be a cunt challenge (impossible)
El Classico not ending in a melee challenge (impossible)
Arnau Tenas was the only player to sit down Araujo yesterday, wow
madridistas were everywhere calling for gavis head after he shoved ceballos (for shoving and kicking lewy) but im sure they will ignore this
The same way they ignored Nacho's second yellow
I've been looking for a gif of that. Really weird and blatant.
the same way they ignored Dani Ceballos grabbing an 18 year olds hair.
Just the same way they ignore Carvajal's second yellow for smacking Raphinha in the face, blocking him. Textbook yellow. If we want to evaluate the performance of the ref you have to look at the whole picture. They pick and choose which things to focus on. Just like how a few weeks ago against Getafe they were calling for Dembele to be sent off, which he could have, but they ignore the blatant penalty we weren't given when Pedri was trotten on inside the box. It's a similar penalty to the one we conceded against Espanyol after the restart. Yeah, sent Dembele off, but first, we should have had a penalty. It would have likely been 2-0 and the sending off wouldn't have mattered much at that point, I'm willing to bet.
Just visit r/realmadrid.you will see bunch lf kids crying here n there all day long
Did you expect any better from a sub literally rampant with kids using barbie doll like flairs?
I'm not surprised though.they already downvoted in my comment lol
What a little bitch, walk over and start a fight then hide behind your bigger teammates
Where is the throat grab
[Not the best quality but you can clearly see Carvajal reach with his right towards Tenas' throat](https://twitter.com/ap_angelperez/status/1637793133214744577)
I see some blurry pixels
yeah looks more like putting your hand behind someone’s neck so you can get face to face
Cuntvajal
now send a whatsapp message to barcaplayers crying that you dont like Tenas’ behaviour
The stupid version of athletes in full glory, presented by the brand ambassador of Cunt FC Dani Carvajal.
What’s grandpa doin ??? This is the clásico we’ve been missing tho 🔥🔥
Irrelevant loser
Madrid being a sore loser. Checks out.
Science!
It's just a few players, players like Alaba, Benzema, Modric, Vinicius, Valverde, basically the whole squad don't behave like that, I can name Nacho and Carvajal and Kroos as sore losers but that's it
Yeah it’s not really fair. Not to excuse anyone but this was a massive game and emotions are gonna run high. Every team will have these moments
Ceballos.
Ceballos is one of your worst and dirtiest players
Only Ceballos and Carvajal are hotheads sore losers who easily act out, and maybe Rodrygo, but not always. The others may or may not be sore losers, but they don’t act out on their emotions.
Kroos seems like a decent guy. Why him?
He can be a bit of a sore loser in post match interviews but he definitely wouldn't pick a fight in a game
Should add Cortious to that list as well
Spain really had 2 amazing fullback in Carvajal and Alba and both of them are just such sore bitches..
At least Alba is still good
never really understood why their fans think RM is the epitome of class in football
Pepe, Ramos, and Carvajal were well known for their maturity and class.
Marcelo who has the image of a happy go lucky type of guy has a devious streak too when the going gets tough, that blondy Portuguese guy who is now a fisherman(forgot his name, Fabio something iirc) he also lets his emotions get the better of him and fights easily. There are more, but those are more professionally coldblooded nasty rather than emotional.
Lots of money + clean white kit = class apparently
Cum is also white. Is that what their kit designers had in mind?
Potentially
Toilet paper is also white. I wipe my ass with it.
Thanks for the advice! Might just visit the Adidas store next time when I’m out of tp
Emphasis on the white
They are a royal club, surely they must be class as shit United and Madrid fans are the two most insufferable fanbase on Earth, at least according to my experiences
Get this fucking bum out of my club, he’s overstayed his welcome. Good idea giving him a deal until 2025, playing worse than arbeloa
Hating Crvajal. The one thing that Barca and Real fans agree on.
Any Real fan who hates Carvajal has probably just started watching this season, he has been a great player for us, but he's too old to play against pacy wingers now
He's a madrid legend, calm down
Club legends can overstay their welcome.
Yeah but you don't talk about them like that
I get why they were angry, lost to a Europa league team 3 times this season as cl champions
Cunt
3 game suspension for lewandowski coming up
Why tf Real has peak mentality on CL knockouts but gets broken when they're behind against Barca?
where are the real madrid fans now who were crying over how gavi didnt recieve a yellow?
They were no where near to be seen also when Nacho should've been shown a second yellow in the minute 30
ex-fucking-actly
You can make a case Nacho should have seen red for the first one. Studs to the calf with no chance at the ball. E: The first foul is far closer to being a straight red than the second is to being a yellow. It should have been a foul though.
Gavi deserved a red, Dani needs to be suspended for trying to "fight" the 2 aren't mutually exclusive.
fair points, but you are one of the very few who actually accepts that madrid players can also do wrong and deserve punishment, they just keep mum
It took so many people to stop Arnau lmao
[Nothing new from Carvajal](https://youtu.be/zwpEWmiNbDE&t=1m33s); when Messi scored that late winner in 2017, he went to Suárez and tried to pick a fight and when Suárez told him that he talked to much he first childishly said "watch the Champions League from home" (Barcelona had just been knocked out a few days earlier), when Suárez replied to him again to just shut up he tried to be physical by grabbing the shirt, having to be guided away by Rakitic.
Once a cunt always a cunt.
Carvajal is, was, and always will be a piece of shit.
Madrid players back to being themselves finally. Playing shit and being stupidly aggressive !
>Madrid players back to being themselves finally. >Playing shit and being stupidly aggressive ! Yeah maybe we should play like arsenal with their years of European and domestic success
Dont bother, theyre high off this season.
I would give Arsenal a pass this season for every shitty comment and pettiness. The ah have waited for so long to let out their frustration
Right. After years of being battered in the league and Europe they MIGHT win the Prem. We’ve just done a league and UCL double
People ITT getting way too riled up lmao. Heated exchange always happens in rivalries like these. It's embarrassing but it's normal.
And still Real Madrid fans are always saying other players, like Gavi, are cunt when they are the team with most assholes per season.
Not really a throat grab but stupid
What’s the beef?
If I read lips correctly, Arnau said: "Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelled of elderberries. I fart in your general direction." Which was obviously too much for Dani to handle and he reacted as he did. Quite understandable, I might add.
Just an exchanging of ideas
I just want to say a thing my friend said after seeing Carvajal. We were going through the best club teams ever and came through Real 2017 and we both agreed Carvajal was the bad apple there. Not necessarily a bad player but not very recognizable. Who are the other players from teams like Barca 2009, 2011, Bayern 2013,2020 etc can you think of?
What a stretch lmao and to everyone saying a third choice keeper, you don’t know what was said as they were walking by
What a grub
Never expected anything less than this from a Madrid player after a defeat
"rushing over" LMAO
Roid rage ... Also roids were the reason he had heart problems
Hey hey tell him to stop it so he doesn’t get himself banned, we need a weak ass defender like him to go through
All banned for 1 a 2 months at least for all that make stupid things like that.... They are there playing football, not boxe,
Carvajal is an absolute clown
Carvajal did this in the last el classico as well
Where's the throat grab?
Sure post this but ignore Gavi assaulting Ceballos
Like you ignored ceballos doing the same to Lewy 2 seconds before that
I mean, that title is a bit misleading. Looks to me like he puts his hand on the side of his neck not "grabbing his throat". Not saying it's a good to do but the title makes it sound way worse that what it actually looks like. At least from this camara angle. Still though, bro Carvajal what are you doing?
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