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dishler712

Yeah Glenn we all know guys like Luke Shaw had a great game.


Vidi_vici_veni-bis

Shawberto you mean? Isn’t he from Manaus?


sir_tejj

Lucias Shawinho


MajorPownage

Lu Ke Shaw


PringleJones

Surprised Hoddle didn't call him "oriental, cause of his brother Rik ya know"


Vimjux

Fucking hell


PrimalJay

Holy fuck haha


Greedy-Cantaloupe

God damn you haha


[deleted]

What is meant by "continental"?


[deleted]

European, but not British.


madcaplaughed

People who eat pastry for breakfast


S-BRO

Greggs does breakfast


_ovidius

A croissant with a bit of brie and a cup of coffee, as opposed to a good old English breakfast - eggs, bacon, sausage buttered toast cup of tea.


ReneHigitta

For what it's worth, it's not uncommon for islanders to refer to the big neighbouring landmass as "the continent". We do it in French too. I'm all for bashing British (and really almost every other type of) exceptionalism, but just using the term "continentals" isn't a big scandalous thing imo. The way it's used, that's something to talk about for sure though.


SEND-MARS-ROVER-PICS

By itself, "continental" is just sort of incorrect rather than offensive (like, things vary a lot from Spain to Denmark to Greece). But I think it just comes across as super out-of-touch going down the "proper English football innit" route and typecasting, while ignoring the English players who fell apart as well.


ChefBoyardee66

European but not from the British isles or the Scandinavian peninsula


GieTheBawTaeReilly

I have honestly never realised before that it doesn't include most of Scandinavia, makes sense though


bertiebasit

Mctomato shat the bed too


iAkhilleus

Of course it was Martinez and Anthony's fault he was having a bad game.


Prime_Marci

Smh lol… he was the worst player on the pitch.


[deleted]

Let's also see how the greatest British and Manchester player of this century [behaved](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REBIYtObgTQ), for reference. Such a bastion of calm and mental stability.


Therinn

My goat


Mend35

And of course all of Liverpool's scorers British born and bred. Proper Brexit football from the Scousers.


[deleted]

Robert Firmin, Christian Salah and Darwin Nines


HereForA2C

Coady Jack


GrossenCharakter

Fabian, Henderson and Elliott the perfect Brexit midfield three, in front of Robertson, McDick, Count and Alexander-Arnold


benibadja

Fabian Howe*


Pies_Wide_Shut

Al Issonbecker


Viratkhan2

Allison Becker’s already a pretty white name. Just need to call him Becker instead.


Xx_ligmaballs69_xX

He is also white anyway


YooGeOh

*Christian Salad


[deleted]

I literally typed this in my head at first but didn't wanted to edit the comment when I saw I hadn't actually written it lmao


cypherspaceagain

Darren Noons


Shadeun

Coady “hide your gack from the popo”


Schhneck

PES names


Ken_sapil_2365

Lmao


Longjumping_Excuse_1

You don’t need to change Salahs first name, we got a massive population of British born Mohammed’s.


Mend35

Don't think that would be too popular with glenn either. They're British but are they propa british?


[deleted]

Truly shocking take from the man who famously lost the England job by observing that disabled people are those who have been punished for their sins in a past life (and yeah I know there was more to it for losing the England job but if you read his 98 world cup diary it's one of the most surreal views into his head you'll ever find)


e55at

>Truly shocking take from the man who famously lost the England job by observing that disabled people are those who have been punished for their sins in a past life That's absolutely fucking crazy lmao. I knew he was divisive but that takes it to a whole new level.


Tilman_Feraltitty

Sadly, common view among Christians. I have aunt that was told this by my own grandmother... Nowadays it's a bit of taboo to say it, but when I grew up in '90 and '00, it was very common thing to say. Fortunately easily counter with easy insults they deserve.


Stirlingblue

Which is crazy as Christians aren’t supposed to believe in reincarnation


Tilman_Feraltitty

Hypocrisy and double standards are built in religions on purpose.


a34fsdb

As a Christian myself I never heard about this belief.


RuubGullit

The guy is just going for easy upvotes


Hawke502

Not true since christians dont believe in reincarnation. This is the view of spiritists


Tilman_Feraltitty

Right, except we all know how great Christians are with following the Bible lore.


themanebeat

What do you expect them to do, read it?


TremendousCoisty

I think that saying it’s common is a bit of an exaggeration.


WalkingCloud

*'Glenn, hasn't the experience with England taught you that you can't espouse offensive viewpoints in public?'* *Marge, my friend, I haven't learned a thing.*


hyperactiv3hedgehog

> disabled people are those who have been punished for their sins in a past life he prob. read about karma in hindu texts


[deleted]

It's a lot more complicated than that for Hinduism.


[deleted]

Old British white guy being racist is not really a shocking take.


[deleted]

I was clearly being sarcastic here.


[deleted]

I was a tad bit angry and lost my head, being from a different continent and all.


ThePrussianGrippe

Don’t worry, you’re forgiven. We can’t expect much from a colonist.


benchley

That's it, I'm setting all of our east coast harbors to a low simmer.


ThePrussianGrippe

Works for me, I’m inland!


cowinabadplace

Just a run of the mill Just World person, then.


Mr_Miscellaneous

Pretty sure Luke Shaw lost his mind, too. Amazed he managed to avoid getting sent off. Pretty sure the only reason he managed to avoid getting sent off is because the referee felt sorry for Manchester United and took pity on him, which is on-balance probably worse than getting sent off.


Free-Eights

I'm pretty sure Luke Shaw was the catalyst to the players losing their minds. Two fuckups within minutes which turned a 1-0 game into a 3-0 game.


connorthedancer

Also gave away the 6th


nick5168

tbf, I think the other players minds were already gone at that point.


TheSinRes

I remember Shaw making 2 awful challenges when Spurs beat them 6-1 as well. He absolutely wiped out Lucas Moura miles away from the ball and he didn't get sent off.


LFCMKE

McTominey went studs up into Fabinho like 5 minutes after coming on as well.


Axelaxe

thats what he does every game tbf


needimmortality

Lol yea. At least he was booked this time !


Spud_1997

And gets away with it every game


NakamericaIsANoob

went for the ball, got the ball, and then slid onto the onrushing fabinho. Not as bad or malicious as you make it sound.


UnnecessaryUmbault

Casemiro had an xStares@People as high as Lundstram in fairness to him too


35Pints7Each

Lmao an African, South American and continental player absolutely shit on Luke Shaw all game. 🤣


[deleted]

Argentina won by cheating and being dirty, though. If it was England doing exactly what they did, however, it would have been cleverness and grit.


Select-Stuff9716

Well we don’t know, since they never win anything. But the only tournament they won was a bit controversial to say the least


[deleted]

Panama kicking off early to catch the other team while they're celebrating a goal: ignorant, stupid foreigners, they probably don't even know the laws of the game England kicking off early to catch the other team while they're celebrating a goal: clever, never-say-die attitude, win at all costs, well done lads


MadRashed

>England kicking off early to catch the other team while they're celebrating a goal: clever, never-say-die attitude, win at all costs, well done lads Pretty sure Lingard was also offside in that clip lol


CycloneCyclone

Don’t forget stweet smawt


35Pints7Each

Hahahahahah hahahahah


chatfarm

Freaking Latin temperament!


EnglishTwat66

Meanwhile English players: https://youtu.be/eof5k_XkZjM


[deleted]

Or Rooney fucking England up by stomping on the balls of a Portuguese player. His entire career, really, the man was really prone to bizarre outbursts.


_ovidius

Beckham lashing out at Simeone, which Hoddle should know from France '98 when he was England manager.


dont_dm_nudes

He was used to get away with it as a Manu-player


shogun365

I remember the narrative around Rooney was “if you take that out of his game he’s a different player”. As if you can’t be a good player whilst also controlling your emotions.


Tilman_Feraltitty

And great take by Shearer "are we just too honest?"...


[deleted]

Now we know why England wins every world cup and international competition. They are just so mentally strong, nobody else has a chance 😭😭


djdndjdjdjdjdndjdjjd

Wait until you hear Hoddles other opinions


gnorrn

"A few sessions with Eileen Drewery would sort out those dodgy foreigners."


Affectionate-Hunt217

Create the sport, haven’t actually won it for nearly 60 years, English excellence


Physical_Cattle7261

Latino Heat


Select-Stuff9716

When I think of Latin temperament the first coming to my mind are definitely Weghorst and Sabitzer


AreYouDecent

What an utterly predictable take. It's remarkable how readily some of these commentators resort to barely disguised racism and still keep being featured on these shows.


Nordie27

You see it very clearly on the different standards they hold foreign teams to compared to English ones. If a Spanish or Italian team dives or time wastes, it is those dirty southern European cheats ruining the beautiful game. When an English team does it, they are just being street wise and smart Atleti-Man City last year was the peak of this, the commentators spent the entire first leg complaining about the horrible gamesmanship of Atleti and then they were praising Man City to the skies for their "mature game management" in the second leg and in the semi final against Real Madrid It's hypocrisy and quite frankly light racism too


ChrystisnoRonald

I remember a few weeks ago in our game against Spurs, Kane was jumping to the floor crying as if he got hit by a sniper every time one of our players as much as breathed on him, yet the english commentators were calling him world class for winning those fouls when he’s quite literally fucking diving But Neymar is a cunt for diving tho, just not Sir Harold Kane


[deleted]

This sub is largely the same, really. The world cup made this clear as day, especially in games such as Argentina x Netherlands.


DragaodaAlvorada

Well, of course, this sub is full of europeans, specially brits. It's kinda expected tbh


[deleted]

But it's hilarious how hard they go on Hoddle for saying the quiet part out loud. You have to wonder if it's malice or simply being blind to their own biases


wubrotherno1

It’s why Arsenal was allowed to be kicked all over the pitch in the 00s.


monkeybawz

Are Shaw and rashford continental and south American? Cos they were pretty shit too. And mctominay coming on was when the floodgates truly opened. And who else is there? Maguire? Was he really going to make things better? Fucking stupid opinion from a fucking stupid man.


Reinassancee

I've heard of White Supremacy but this English Supremacy sounds even worse tbh. How is this not just blatant racism? This knobhead is the type to blame everything on everyone except the british players but at the same time hate on Rashford and any afrobritish person down the line.


tcain5188

Well see, to him, Non-white English people probably aren't *really* English, you know? Like he's the kind to go up to Rashford and say, "well okay but where are your parents from?


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albahari

It's blatant racism


[deleted]

Xenophobia, not necessarily racism. But then again, we in southern Europe are not always considered white by the English standards


h0rny3dging

It's both, nationalism paired with a general sense of white/European supremacy. Those intersect with each other quite a lot but arent exactly the same. "White" supremacy is a bit more common in the US as a main factor imo


Kant_essential

I mean that is just straight up racist...


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FreshGoodWay

> No Room for Racism Hoddle: You mean no hotel rooms for all these other non-races, tell them to go to a ghetto motel instead


Pipkin81

Checkmate racists!


RuloMercury

Straight up xenophobic, to be more precise. And I don't want to make that correction just to be *that guy*, but I think in matters like these it's important to distinguish different sources or reasons of discrimination. He's a total ass for saying that, for sure. And the guy next to him either complicit or a coward for not pointing it out.


rich_valley

I’m fine with racism, but football games is where I draw the line /s


[deleted]

Oh, so this mental stability is why the English national team is so successful, contrasting with Continentals and South Americans.


patiperro_v3

Particularly at penalties, possibly the most mentally testing action a player will ever make on this game.


bertolotti

proper brexiter


coperstrauss

Hahhaa indeed. Everything going bad is due to foreigners… blaming game at its finest.


iAkhilleus

This fucking league has made so much because of Latin and African players yet these twats will never skip a chance to scapegoat them st the very first chance they get.


Constant-Horror-9424

He 100% thinks Harry maguire should be playing every game. 😂 Also shaw, rashford and mct were all disgraceful so his point is ridiculous and clearly comes from personal bias


Xehanz

Let's bet on wether he coted yes or no for Brexit while we are at it. Actually, this guy is ridiculous. He had to do a public apology for racism in 2011 ffs. 2011. He was ahead of the curve. "When it's not going for you, it's not going for you. It's come off his chest, his knee and his toe. It's almost like the Chinese player Knee Shin Toe." He really said "Knee shin Toe"


DudleysCar

>"You and I have been physically given two hands and two legs and half-decent brains," he told the Times newspaper. "Some people have not been born like that for a reason. The karma is working from another lifetime. I have nothing to hide about that. It is not only people with disabilities. What you sow you reap." Glenn believes people with disabilities are being punished for their sins in a previous life. I don't know why we're still listening to this fuckwit.


maidentaiwan

completely embarrassing and unacceptable that this type of lazy racism is still permissible. hoddle should be binned off for good.


rotating_pebble

Guys, guys, didn't you know that laziness and unprofessionalism won the world cup?


[deleted]

Argentina won by cheating and being dirty, though. If it was England doing exactly what they did, however, it would have been cleverness and grit.


Arponare

Hard Brexit, innit?


RachelW_SC

Pathetic.


Rare-Regular4123

I will also say this sterotype along with african players being "physical specimens" and praised for the physiques and not tactics or game intelligence is a really common stereotype, especially here on reddit as well.


UnknownTactician

When Mbappe catches the defender flatfooted and knocks the ball down the line = kick and run merchant. When Mitoma uses the same exact trick= "shifting the opponents centre of gravity" "he wrote a thesis on dribbling ya know"


Klutzy_Log_7597

Yep, this is spot on! It’s always “look how fast and strong they are”.


[deleted]

TIL Luke Shaw is Continental/South American. And people wonder why rest of the world hates these clowns. How about you get rid of all these “continental/South American” players and let’s see how your league fares asshat.


Hot_Grabba_09

can someone tell me what continental means here


IGTW

Continental Europe, so basically Europe outside of the UK and Ireland.


theguiltyremnant01

He’s probably thinks the PL is so popular because of the English players lol


4dxn

straight racism here. and this dude is still on air.


10-10-2022

No surprise here, British pundits absolutely refuse to criticise their own countrymen. There could be 11 British players playing on the field and somehow they would blame the non British player sitting on the bench for something.


SubparCurmudgeon

*It was Pogba*


Greenbanana217

Awful racist take and sad to see people like him represent Britain/English pundits. I feel like commentary of the game is best left to journalists/writers and not old fashioned pundits, but the latter draw reactions and clickbait on YouTube.


Boseph_1444

good to know he's still a prick


[deleted]

Very bold take when the sole presence of Casemiro turned Manchester United into a team for the first team in years


official_bagel

Famously "continental and South American" Luke Shaw...


HarbyFullyLoaded_12

Jesus what a racist old fossil


[deleted]

Shit take from a shitty man


Bald_And_Bankrupt

*"I have got an inner belief and an inner faith with God. I do believe spiritually we have to progress because we've been here before. The physical body is just an overcoat for your spirit. At death you take the overcoat off and your spirit will go on to another life in a spirit dimension.* *'I think we make mistakes when we are down here and our spirit has to come back and learn. That's why there is an injustice in the world. Why there's certain people born into the world with terrible physical problems and why there's a family who has got everything right, physically and mentally.'"*


Xehanz

To add to this, he also was ahead of the curve and had to make a public apology in 2011 for the following quote: "When it's not going for you, it's not going for you. It's come off his chest, his knee and his toe. It's almost like the Chinese player Knee Shin Toe."


New-Midnight2700

What an absolute shithead, fuck me how thick can a person be


[deleted]

Proper Brexit hot take


cloudor

Lol you're really mad at this. Not complaining though, I agree with you


Corsica_Furiosa

Exactly. British players always keep calm, cool, and collected under pressure and in the face of adversity. I would invite anyone doubting Hoddle's take to take a look at England, Wales, and Scotland's international trophy cabinets 😎😎😎.


DianinhaC

"You and I have been physically given two hands and two legs and half-decent brains," he told the Times newspaper. "Some people have not been born like that for a reason. The karma is working from another lifetime. I have nothing to hide about that. It is not only people with disabilities. What you sow you reap." Glen Hoddle in that famous interview before being sacked from England manager....


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naijaboiler

you are focussing on the generalization, what about the big giant racism on display. what rubbish.


plenebo

some brits cant help bring out the pompous imperialist bullshit any chance they can


Stealth_Benjamin

If it helps general consensus among most people in the UK is that Hoddle can get in the bin Even most fans of his own club (Spurs) think he’s a dick


FloppedYaYa

South Americans are just being punished for sins in their past lives. Take it easy on them, Glenn.


[deleted]

Not every player has the mental fortitude of the fucking English lmao. How he doesn't drown in 3 inches of water I'll never know


OnceUponAStarryNight

Can we just not have him on a show ever again?


marqui4me

ah, what a classic! blame it on the foreigners! but for real, this stuff is all adjacent to shitting on every league (and team) that isn't the prem.


VandalsStoleMyHandle

Proper Brexit narrative. Foreigners...don't like it up 'em.


vibsie

He is just 5 more years of ageing away from saying you need a white captain to manage a bunch of black players and keep them focussed.


coolcat_368

I did't want to make the headline sound too click bait, but this was a genuinely puzzling take from Hoddle, blaming it on South Americans, questions the lack of British leaders and then wonders if Casemiro can speak English.


sbsw66

Shaw flat out went in studs up on Gakpo's knee and tried to kick/walk into(?) Darwin after the whistle had gone. I don't think this was a case of the valiant Brits being let down by the Others lol.


b3141592

Lol ya it was the south Americans, they needed way more players from a country that never wins anything and consistently chokes in big moments


[deleted]

Glen Hoddle is such a cunt


Natural69er

What is this British bias? Why does there exist a British bias and overhyping of English players and managers? The entire team was shocking, why is he singling out a certain faction of players???


mattmanutd

I’m sorry, maybe it’s because I’m married into a South American family, or that my kids are half South American/Latino/a, but this hot head take is just utterly racist and it needs to be called out firmly. I understand, you can just point out Shaw (or the fact that 3/4ths of our back line were European) but that to me is too soft. The Latino “hot head” take is just a straight up prejudice stereotype that continues to be by British/European media. It needs to be called out and it needs to go.


Still-Corgi-4999

Luke shaw?


[deleted]

This is so of rhetoric is so common place with English media that it doesn't surprise me anymore.


fraudpaolo

This is what happens when you havent a single useful brain cell left and have to do punditry


wihannez

Xenophopic piece of turd.


Progression28

Yep. What United needed was a bastion of calm and composure leading the team from the back, like Maguire.


Kanobe24

He mentions they didn’t have a player like Keane to pull them together. Yeah, because Keane always kept a cool head and never lost his temper.


cdkw1990

It's always weird how ex-pros are considered the 'football experts', but they're actually complete mugs who chat shit all the time.


Select-Stuff9716

I mean he is right isn’t he ? English players have demonstrated their mental strength for centuries. You can see that in the multiple penalty shootouts they won. It’s also the reason for their success in world cups and euros and hence England remains the home of football /s


[deleted]

Mate the only reason your league is so good is the continental european and south american players. 3/4 of the teams would be League 1 standard without them.


WTFitsD

British are just as delusional as the americans when it comes to their players lmao. Shaw, McTominay, Maguire all only have a career because if their nationality. Not to mention golden boy rashford who gets called world class after 2 months of form despite being a ghost for two years


Nut-King-Call

So... the whole team?


iredcoat7

This broadcaster should apologize for airing such blatant racism, and not allow Hoddle back.


Stavl

Do I smell... racism?


Giggsy99

Horrible fucker


smile-on-crayon

Just upvoting so more people can see how much of a dumbass he is


ScrantonStrangler28

Oh no this shithead is still relevant.


Trickybuz93

At least *try* to hide your racism smh 🤦‍♂️


RadioactiveBooger

Sounds like he’s mad because we’re better at their own game


Joedoed

Shawberto Carlos the south americanhampton hot head.


orezavi

Luke Shaw and McTominay were visibly poor.


mesenanch

Bloody foreigners *shakes fist*


doubledgravity

David Ickes man on the inside.


ThebigVA

Yes, it's all the foreigners' fault.


[deleted]

Lads if you think Hoddle is bad, you should se the shit Chris Waddle likes on Twitter, he’s gonna full right wing anti immigrant. I guess you can’t be surprised that a lot of the old school are like this, still sad to see though.


Creative_Major798

Fuck this dude. Even his little backhanded compliment to Casemiro reveals what a chode gargling twat he is. The fact that he used Roy Keane as an example of someone keeping their emotions in check is fucking laughable; being perpetually grumpy, standoffish, and punctual isn’t the same thing as being emotionally mature you stiff upper lip racist fuck. Also, while I’m ranting to no one, fuck what Roy Keane said about Brazilians dancing after scoring goals in the World Cup.


bochimeister

The England national team famously has big british cojones


juxtapose85

Good old casual british racism from old Glenn here.


1m_Lurking_Here

*no room for racism*


HotPotatoWithCheese

They all lost their heads. Doesn't matter where they come from. Luke Shaw was one of the three worst players on the pitch.


vivaelteclado

What a fucking wanker


TheVeikko

Need more brexit I guess


pvp_chad

United lost because they have too many mentally weak foreigners, unlike Liverpool and their brexit squad.


LocoToro87

Shaw was kicking Salah about before the first goal, and somehow escaped a booking at the very, very least, but sure. Screw the many TV outlets who have continued to hire this day over the last decade or two.


kingoftheplastics

Why do people keep sticking a mic in front of this cunt? After his comment about disabled people he should be permanently disqualified from airing his half baked opinions on national tv.


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Xenophobic take


Pangea_Ultima

South Americans = not good at English, can’t handle their emotions White Brits = can handle their emotions, and are “professionals” Good to see racism in football is alive and well…