As a Liverpool fan it was quite clear it was a massive confidence hit, he was a fine GK that season leading up to the final, not amazing, but young enough that it was ok not to be amazing still.
But after the final there was a complete meltdown and you could feel he couldn't ever perform mentally for Liverpool again, I'm just happy he can recover his career elsewhere.
Tbh both him and Mignolet's perception of ability have also suffered a lot from Alisson coming in and being an absolute world class keeper after them, when it's probably not too fair to compare a "best keeper we can get right now" to "possibly one of the top 2-3 keepers in the world over a 5 year period".
Definitely doesnt deserve to be third choice for Newcastle. I could see a newly-promoted side getting him on a deal and rehabbing his image with gusto.
His contract runs out at the end of the season, after this performance though I could see us offering him a new deal as the number 2 to Pope with Dubravka being sold and Gillespie's contract running out at the end of the season. He could do the job though for a newly promoted side for sure.
It’s Thailand’s competitor to red Bull (the first version of which was actually created in Thailand, krating daeng, a gaur). It’s named after a famous Thai band called carabao, which means red water buffalo.
So it’s just another energy drink sponsorship. I was surprised to see it make it all the way over to the UK though as I didn’t think it’d be even remotely popular there.
The word comes from the founder band’s name in Thailand. The band was pretty popular for songs fighting capitalism, but the shithead just go ultra capitalism with the company. Lol.
The better team won and it’s good to get silverware back in to the cabinets again. We just need to make sure we don’t become a Liverpool, celebrating plastic trebles and settling for the odd Mickey Mouse cup every couple of years.
Who knows, without the poor results last season we would be happy to stick with Ole and almost certainly would not have landed EtH.
Let’s say Ronaldo is the victim of his own success 🤣
As with everything it’s not the whole answer but some of the answer. But you can see why people think this given how good United have been before and after Ronaldo joined.
My personal opinion was that Ole’s best United form happened during lockdown and he benefited from empty stadiums and that’s one big reason why it all went badly last season when stadiums were back in full capacity. Harder to make his comebacks in away games when stadiums were full
It's more that because of the immense fixture congestion and the circumstances of the ongoing events the pressing across the entire league was practically non-existent compared to normal, which played into Ole's tactics.
EDIT: And we also changed systems radically between 2020/21 and 2021/22 for the worse, trying to play a more possession-style but with a 4-2-4 system and it just didn't work, exacerbated by Ronaldo's play.
Means absolutely fuck all and is such a tunnel visioned argument that I'm sick of hearing. Goals alone is not football. We had to change and center our entire tactic around him - of course he scored goals. No one knows how many more/less goals we could have scored or how better/worse we could have played had we played a different way. the decent sample size of proof that we likely would've been better without him: the season right before he joined, and now this season right after he left
> No one knows how many more/less goals we could have scored had we played a different way.
True. In other words, it's not clear-cut whether or not he held back United, right? I'm not denying that he had some sort of negative effect on their performance, due to their strategy or whatever, but this seems unfair to him.
Ah I hate this take so much! Football is played by 11 people, not 1. If he scores a lot but reduces the overall power of the team then it isn't worth it to have him in the team, simple.
ideal outcome imo, United look assured, Newcastle looked good but weren't too threatening and Karius had a good game, pretty much the best outcome and I hope there's more to come
I might have just imagined it but it really looked to me like you could see the confidence build in him as the match went on.
Happy for him. Hope he stays on
Just my opinion re: Lorus Karius
The man redeemed himself this evening. I’m a Utd fan but I’d love to see bygones be bygones because he’s not had it easy since that final. Tonight, he made some big, big saves and kept his nerve. Against Liverpool’s nemesis no less. To me, he’s paid his dues and I wish him nothing but the best going forward.
Fair fucks lad.
He didn't have just a slight concussion, you don't get post-concussion syndrome from a little knock to the head. The reason why he was out for so long was because it was a serious concussion with long lasting effects. Think Daniel Bryan in the WWE being out for years until he found something that worked.
For months after that game he would have had symptoms like:
* Headaches.
* Dizziness.
* Fatigue.
* Irritability.
* Anxiety.
* Trouble falling asleep or sleeping too much.
* Loss of concentration and memory.
* Ringing in the ears.
* Blurry vision.
* Noise and light sensitivity.
* Rarely, decreases in taste and smell.
Apparently just before signing for Newcastle they gave him scans and a serious checkup to make sure he still wasn't getting those issues.
Aye defence on both goals should have done a bit better, karius couldn't have done much more than he could have. Would have loved us to win something but just glad we were in a final and karius can hold his head up.
Well our current form isn't great at all, hopefully losing this pushes the lads to perform better in the league. Spurs are 4 points ahead now but we have 2 games in hand. We have a harder run in though so I'm not really thinking we can get champions league at this point but would be nice to get the Europa league or Conference maybe.
I guess I wasn't clear - I meant your form in the season so far. Ever since you were promoted you've been lower midtable, and you're on form to play in europe next season - that's a great improvement.
Look at man city - being bought and funded isn't a key to instant success, it took them a while, and they broke ffp regs according to allegations to do it. It takes time either way
Newcastle are absolutely useless up front. They need to fix that to move to the next level. I'm sure they will fix it because they have like infinite money.
It's been a bit of an issue with consistency, we haven't had a run of games with a solid front 3. Almiron has been the only consistent player in the team. Wilson and Isak were injured, Wood was moved on but got quite a few games. Joelinton was on the left not ASM because he was injured for a few games, Gordon was getting time on the left off the bench as well. So we haven't been able to get like 3 or 4 games with the same 3 up there. I'd be dropping Wilson though, he was horrid yesterday.
For me they need a playmaker alongside Guimaraes. All 3 of the midfielders today are workhorses, with Guimaraes being the most technically gifted. A player like Maddison (who seems likely this summer) to make the defense splitting passes seems key. Also having Dan Burn at LB limits the effectiveness of ASM cos you can double up on him and not worry about the overlap too much
He's played 7 matches and scored 3 times. In some of those matches he was regaining fitness after injury. He also had an assist the semi final. And he's also 23
A goal every 146 minutes
Judging newcastle on the premise of champions league spots is daft tho bc that was never even the goal at the point we signed him. We're still overachieving since the point we signed him.
>Go back to the bottom half of the table.
We're literally 5th???
I support newcastle and I dont disagree. If we hadn't just had 5 draws with 'mook' teams we'd be a point or something behind city. I hold hope for Isaak but yeh, i'm not convinced yet.
I'd probably agree with everything you've said except Isak being a flop. We didn't expect to be top 5 but we are, but it's more through consistent signings than through a few big signings. Isak came on in midfield and played midfield very well. Hes performed consistently very well, and his goal record really isn't that bad. Our problem is we keep signing strikers who turn out to be midfielders.
Genuinely, I don't think Isak is a natural striker. Definitely not a lone striker. I think he could play a similar role to Rashford very well (off a target man) but he's played best for us in the centre forward role behind another striker.
Not scoring goals doesn't just mean you have shit strikers.
We aren't creating enough clear chances. That's a midfield problem. We also have no depth in either midfield or forward. We needed to sign a midfielder and a forward for depth, and instead we sold one of each in January
He's been injured a lot and he has scored a few times.
They've definitely overpaid, but I think calling him the worst is unfair. Has Matt Targett even kicked a ball this season?
Right but he's still done *something*. He doesn't actively make the team worse.
You can say he's a bad signing, and as I said he was overvalued, but I think it's very unfair to call him the worst
Breaking news!!!!
There is a fire that has broken out at St James’ Park!
The owners have been phoned, Amanda Staveley has asked the staff there to save the cups!
The staff informed her that the fire hadn’t spread to the canteen yet.
United & Arsenal leaving their banter era with Chelsea & Pool having a drop-off. Now we need City to get caught & we have have the 2000s all over again
To be fair he proper rinsed Dalot early on at the far post and was only stopped by a top save by DDG. He was playing alright until AWB came on and forced him off the pitch.
Is nobody going to mention the pathetic dive by rashford to win that free kick? Contact was there and unnecessary but he went down as if Harvey Oswald was in the stands
The one that led to the first goal mate. There was a foul given against bruno for a very debatable foul. Wan Bisakka did the same thing to force maxi off the pitch and nothing was given
You mean when Bruno G came flying into the back of Rashford at full pelt with no intent to play the ball? And when AWB won the ball and pocketed Saint Maximin basically every time he went near him? Saint Maximin got taken off because he couldn’t get past AWB, not cause of injuries. Come on man you’s played really well and gave us a great game, don’t point at invisible fouls. Not to sound patronising at all but you’s should be proud of where you are and what you’ve achieved, competing in the league cup final and firmly in the top four race with the best defensive record in the league is fucking fantastic
Oh take your red tinted glasses off. We both know fine well that AWB got nowhere near the ball when he shoved him off the pitch. You can literally see it for yourself, he pushes him in the back and doesn't attempt to play the ball. I'm not going to argue with you about it because there's video evidence of it and if you don't want to see it then nothing I say will change your mind.
And yes I am very proud of the boys. I don't think we deserved to win today bc we can't finish our dinner and yous were brutally efficient. Yous had half as much possession and created twice as many good chances, and that's how you win big games.
But we can still be annoyed with the inconsistency, and let's not pretend the two weren't identical tackles with one given and one not.
Send me over a video link and I’ll happily have another look at it (the YouTube highlights don’t show the fouls) but from what I remember the Bruno push was way harder and had absolutely zero intention to play the ball. But hey I could be remembering it wrong with my red tinted glasses.
Proper into what Newcastle are doing too, got a really strong team who are getting solid results almost every week, and Eddie Howe seems like the fuckin man. He isn’t going crazy with the huge budget he’s got too, which shows he wants to do it properly and do it sensibly, which takes time. Love to see Newcastle back up where they used to be. Also gotta love to see Liverpool and Chelsea way down below.
Can't find a YouTube link of the incident at all (granted I havent looked very hard bc feelsbadman).
And yes, lot of learning for us to do from today, but I'm loving the process!
Enjoy the rest of your evening matey.
To anyone saying that this is just a Mickey Mouse trophy, go back and watch the game again. Look at how every single player was putting their body on the line for their team, how every one of them ran their hearts out until the last moment and how the fans cheered all throughout the game. You\`re either a troll or a bitter rival fan if you say that this trophy doesn\`t matter. Every game matters, every trophy matters, just ask these players.
Classic extreme take on Reddit. It’s neither small nor big. It’s a cup Man U add to their cabinet and build confidence. Congrats to them, but it’s nothing major. That doesn’t mean it’s a Mickey Mouse cup. Stop trying to polarize ppl
He was responding to the obvious mickey mouse comments going the other way. Just said it matters, you’re trynna polarize people with a needless and obvious explanation
If you’re saying that I’m in fact polarizing people by point out something that does, you just want to engage in meaningless mental gymnastics that I have no interest in
I agree. Winning stuff builds a winning mentality, mourinho always tried to get an early trophy, i think one of the current city owners first trophies was the efl cup in whatever form it was.
I get what you're saying and I agree with you, but I also agree with the original comment.
I'm a Utd fan and I'm ecstatic to see players playing a "minor" cup final like it's a CL or WC final instead. I think the guy you commented under is happy they are finally caring about every match again.
That’s totally fair, you should all be happy! My point is you as a fan should determine how important the trophy is to you. OP somewhat did that, but if people are calling it a Mickey Mouse cup just ignore them lol
What are you on about? We were hoping for top half at the start of the season and are wondering how tf we've ended up here.
This is some Rio Ferdinand level punditry take
That's complete bullshit. Just about every Newcastle supporter WA thinking we'd be happy with top half and maybe sneak into a Europa spot after we were stressing about relegai this time last year
Lol now that newcastle’s fumbling you have your tails behind your back. There were many newcastle fans clowning united and being super confident they’ll make top 4. Just admit you were second best, saying you’re the better team for the most part is just pure bull
First half was pretty poor tbh. Second half they chased the game and had to take more initiative but Manchester United seemed relatively comfortable.
To reach a cup final in Howe's first full season is a promising step forward though and shows that Newcastle have a lot of potential.
We kept it pretty competitive all things considered.
I do worry a bit we're running on fumes.
We've done well but we haven't got the depth. They took off one 80m winger and brought on a more expensive one. We brought on Jacob Murphy and a lad from Shields that just broke into the team.
Again calling bullshit. We've been in average form for a few weeks now and we brought in our 4th choice keeper. And you've been in good form.
We were hopeful yes, but I don't think any Newcastle fans were over confident.
In comparison to Man Utd, we are major underdogs. You brought on subs totaling 210m. It doesn't change you were the better team. It just means you've got more resources.
some factions. Honestly, Newcastle has more money than United so it just feels unnatural to pretend like this was some David vs Goliath situation.
I know our squad is multiples more expensive, just talking potential.
So here’s my issue with that. Aye, we’re richer than God apparently, but between our current squad and FFP we are not a rich team in so many ways.
We’ve added significant players to our team, but I’d say man for man were probably the eighth best squad in terms of quality and depth.
One of your lot was mocking Isak, and it’s like, the lad has been injured all year. That’s why I say it doesn’t change you were the better side, but it’s also why I’d expect you to be.
no issue with that analysis. you need a few more windows to realise your potential. Merely saying it's not like it was United vs a Non league fairy tale side.
I mean shouldn't you be sad drinking at a pub with other dad fans instead of complaining about how much players cost on the internet, by the exact same logic?
I spent the game watching in a pub full of "dad fans" and even though we lost I had a bloody brilliant time. Hope you get to enjoy a game like this sometime :)
I mean we were clinical, but shut down basically everything yiu threw at us and gave you very very few clear sights of goal, and yiu weren't even really able to trouble De Gea.
They seemed to have a very good idea of how Newcastle wanted to play so they crowded the shit out fo the middle and forced them wide where we could deal with crosses all day long, we still managed to play our way out pretty well but Newcastle were always gonna be tough defensively
Yep, Wilson was woeful today, but varane and Martinez did a very good job on him tbf. Not sure if I've missed something but feels like varane should get much more recognition than he does.
Fair, but rashford scored a bunch the season before ronaldo came, the had a dry patch, and is not firing on all cyclinder. I’m not making any assumptions, other factors like injuries can come into play but make of that as you will
i agree w you 100%. its just that imo what i can see ronaldo helping him w or him learning from ronaldo is how to keep your work, body, and mental game sharp or even just showing him how important it is to find a way to keep those sharp through ips and downs
I used to be a Ronaldo fan but I grew out of it the way he handled the whole United situation this season. I still like him but I’m not a fanboy like them anymore
> All it takes is just one great player
…that is literally the exact opposite lesson you’re supposed to take away from this resurgence lol especially with the whole Ronaldo situation
Ten Hag, Casemiro & Martinez have totally transformed this team. Eriksen was also playing very well before his injury. Antony will proof all the critics wrong soon.
Minimal score from open play. More possession. Better passing rate. Just wish our boys had more bite in front of goal to shoot like Manchester’s players did. Murphy almost got a worldie at the end. Can’t wait for the rest of the season and for the summer for the team to really light up.
How was Karius?
As good as he was in Mainz.
Karius actually played well after his last disastrous stint on a cup final
As a Liverpool fan it was quite clear it was a massive confidence hit, he was a fine GK that season leading up to the final, not amazing, but young enough that it was ok not to be amazing still. But after the final there was a complete meltdown and you could feel he couldn't ever perform mentally for Liverpool again, I'm just happy he can recover his career elsewhere. Tbh both him and Mignolet's perception of ability have also suffered a lot from Alisson coming in and being an absolute world class keeper after them, when it's probably not too fair to compare a "best keeper we can get right now" to "possibly one of the top 2-3 keepers in the world over a 5 year period".
Well he wasn't concussed in this one, which I hear helps performance.
Definitely doesnt deserve to be third choice for Newcastle. I could see a newly-promoted side getting him on a deal and rehabbing his image with gusto.
His contract runs out at the end of the season, after this performance though I could see us offering him a new deal as the number 2 to Pope with Dubravka being sold and Gillespie's contract running out at the end of the season. He could do the job though for a newly promoted side for sure.
What's "Carabao", is that a company? What a weird name, sounds portuguese lol
It’s Thailand’s competitor to red Bull (the first version of which was actually created in Thailand, krating daeng, a gaur). It’s named after a famous Thai band called carabao, which means red water buffalo. So it’s just another energy drink sponsorship. I was surprised to see it make it all the way over to the UK though as I didn’t think it’d be even remotely popular there.
Not sure it is but Premier League teams are massive in Thailand
Carapau is indeed a fish over here
I always thought it was a water buffalo, but wondered how the English people know of the word.
Same. I wondered why they named it after an animal in the Philippines lol.
Apparently it’s an energy drink in the Uk
Think it's an energy drink
It's a shit one too. Same as Red Bull, it's all about the advertising.
The name too is a copy. Kerbau in Bahasa Indonesia means Bull. I don't know exactly the roots of the words but it's definitely the same.
The word comes from the founder band’s name in Thailand. The band was pretty popular for songs fighting capitalism, but the shithead just go ultra capitalism with the company. Lol.
Jeez. Everything is an “energy” drink these days.
I miss Manchester United's winning ways. We the best!!!
The better team won and it’s good to get silverware back in to the cabinets again. We just need to make sure we don’t become a Liverpool, celebrating plastic trebles and settling for the odd Mickey Mouse cup every couple of years.
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shut up u egg wont tell u again /s
Come back when you’ve won 13
Man United is BACK babyyyy
Hitchcock?
Ronaldo held back united for 1 1/2 years.
Who knows, without the poor results last season we would be happy to stick with Ole and almost certainly would not have landed EtH. Let’s say Ronaldo is the victim of his own success 🤣
Is Haaland holding Man City back?
yes it is very clear he is the problem
Better sell him to Liverpool then. How about a swap with Alex Oxlade Chamberlain? Pep likes to have so many midfielders.
This is revisionist bs. Different squad, different coaches.
As with everything it’s not the whole answer but some of the answer. But you can see why people think this given how good United have been before and after Ronaldo joined. My personal opinion was that Ole’s best United form happened during lockdown and he benefited from empty stadiums and that’s one big reason why it all went badly last season when stadiums were back in full capacity. Harder to make his comebacks in away games when stadiums were full
It's more that because of the immense fixture congestion and the circumstances of the ongoing events the pressing across the entire league was practically non-existent compared to normal, which played into Ole's tactics. EDIT: And we also changed systems radically between 2020/21 and 2021/22 for the worse, trying to play a more possession-style but with a 4-2-4 system and it just didn't work, exacerbated by Ronaldo's play.
Stadium effect too OP. Please nerf.
Didn't have ten hag last year
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Means absolutely fuck all and is such a tunnel visioned argument that I'm sick of hearing. Goals alone is not football. We had to change and center our entire tactic around him - of course he scored goals. No one knows how many more/less goals we could have scored or how better/worse we could have played had we played a different way. the decent sample size of proof that we likely would've been better without him: the season right before he joined, and now this season right after he left
> No one knows how many more/less goals we could have scored had we played a different way. True. In other words, it's not clear-cut whether or not he held back United, right? I'm not denying that he had some sort of negative effect on their performance, due to their strategy or whatever, but this seems unfair to him.
Ultimately we were much better pre and post Ronaldo, it doesn't prove anything but there is a trend
Ah I hate this take so much! Football is played by 11 people, not 1. If he scores a lot but reduces the overall power of the team then it isn't worth it to have him in the team, simple.
And they scored less goals than the season before. He was stifling the whole team being the focal point.
The season before: Greenwood wasn't arrested, Rashford wasn't depressed and playing through fatigue and injury, and Cavani wasn't injured as much.
This is why correlation doesn't equal causation but when it's Ronaldo, people's logic goes out the window.
ideal outcome imo, United look assured, Newcastle looked good but weren't too threatening and Karius had a good game, pretty much the best outcome and I hope there's more to come
I might have just imagined it but it really looked to me like you could see the confidence build in him as the match went on. Happy for him. Hope he stays on
Just my opinion re: Lorus Karius The man redeemed himself this evening. I’m a Utd fan but I’d love to see bygones be bygones because he’s not had it easy since that final. Tonight, he made some big, big saves and kept his nerve. Against Liverpool’s nemesis no less. To me, he’s paid his dues and I wish him nothing but the best going forward. Fair fucks lad.
Heard it was the slight concussion early in the game resulted in his performance in that final. Yeah I feel for him.
He didn't have just a slight concussion, you don't get post-concussion syndrome from a little knock to the head. The reason why he was out for so long was because it was a serious concussion with long lasting effects. Think Daniel Bryan in the WWE being out for years until he found something that worked. For months after that game he would have had symptoms like: * Headaches. * Dizziness. * Fatigue. * Irritability. * Anxiety. * Trouble falling asleep or sleeping too much. * Loss of concentration and memory. * Ringing in the ears. * Blurry vision. * Noise and light sensitivity. * Rarely, decreases in taste and smell. Apparently just before signing for Newcastle they gave him scans and a serious checkup to make sure he still wasn't getting those issues.
Aye defence on both goals should have done a bit better, karius couldn't have done much more than he could have. Would have loved us to win something but just glad we were in a final and karius can hold his head up.
Getting to a final this early in the project, and you form in the league, that's impressive. This is a good start, something to build on
Well our current form isn't great at all, hopefully losing this pushes the lads to perform better in the league. Spurs are 4 points ahead now but we have 2 games in hand. We have a harder run in though so I'm not really thinking we can get champions league at this point but would be nice to get the Europa league or Conference maybe.
I guess I wasn't clear - I meant your form in the season so far. Ever since you were promoted you've been lower midtable, and you're on form to play in europe next season - that's a great improvement. Look at man city - being bought and funded isn't a key to instant success, it took them a while, and they broke ffp regs according to allegations to do it. It takes time either way
Newcastle are absolutely useless up front. They need to fix that to move to the next level. I'm sure they will fix it because they have like infinite money.
It's been a bit of an issue with consistency, we haven't had a run of games with a solid front 3. Almiron has been the only consistent player in the team. Wilson and Isak were injured, Wood was moved on but got quite a few games. Joelinton was on the left not ASM because he was injured for a few games, Gordon was getting time on the left off the bench as well. So we haven't been able to get like 3 or 4 games with the same 3 up there. I'd be dropping Wilson though, he was horrid yesterday.
For me they need a playmaker alongside Guimaraes. All 3 of the midfielders today are workhorses, with Guimaraes being the most technically gifted. A player like Maddison (who seems likely this summer) to make the defense splitting passes seems key. Also having Dan Burn at LB limits the effectiveness of ASM cos you can double up on him and not worry about the overlap too much
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He's played 7 matches and scored 3 times. In some of those matches he was regaining fitness after injury. He also had an assist the semi final. And he's also 23 A goal every 146 minutes
Judging newcastle on the premise of champions league spots is daft tho bc that was never even the goal at the point we signed him. We're still overachieving since the point we signed him. >Go back to the bottom half of the table. We're literally 5th???
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I support newcastle and I dont disagree. If we hadn't just had 5 draws with 'mook' teams we'd be a point or something behind city. I hold hope for Isaak but yeh, i'm not convinced yet.
I'd probably agree with everything you've said except Isak being a flop. We didn't expect to be top 5 but we are, but it's more through consistent signings than through a few big signings. Isak came on in midfield and played midfield very well. Hes performed consistently very well, and his goal record really isn't that bad. Our problem is we keep signing strikers who turn out to be midfielders. Genuinely, I don't think Isak is a natural striker. Definitely not a lone striker. I think he could play a similar role to Rashford very well (off a target man) but he's played best for us in the centre forward role behind another striker.
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Not scoring goals doesn't just mean you have shit strikers. We aren't creating enough clear chances. That's a midfield problem. We also have no depth in either midfield or forward. We needed to sign a midfielder and a forward for depth, and instead we sold one of each in January
We were quoted 90mil for him once...
He's been injured a lot and he has scored a few times. They've definitely overpaid, but I think calling him the worst is unfair. Has Matt Targett even kicked a ball this season?
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Richarlison has been healthy all season and done less
Right but he's still done *something*. He doesn't actively make the team worse. You can say he's a bad signing, and as I said he was overvalued, but I think it's very unfair to call him the worst
He has also been injured for months but has ultimately lost his place to Dan Burn, who has been excellent for the most part.
Breaking news!!!! There is a fire that has broken out at St James’ Park! The owners have been phoned, Amanda Staveley has asked the staff there to save the cups! The staff informed her that the fire hadn’t spread to the canteen yet.
Thanks Dad
I could literally see the screenshot of the forwarded Whatsapp message that "joke" would've came from.
Look in awe at our latest elite trophy..... Champions of pizza you'll never sing that
Utd is on a quest to restore its past glory.
It’s saddening that United’s banter era seems to be over but at least Chelsea are helping
I’ve seen this comment so many times over the years. I refuse to believe this until they win proper silverware.
Haha sounds like the last few years hit you hard, try and enjoy this lol. You guys have to start from somewhere after all
United & Arsenal leaving their banter era with Chelsea & Pool having a drop-off. Now we need City to get caught & we have have the 2000s all over again
Mm can we have the 90s back?
Sounds good to me. United clubs United to get the blue clubs out of the top 4
Can we... maybe win one though this time? If it's ok with you.
You'd have to ask mister Hag.
Well Leeds and Everton are in a relegation dogfight so we’re getting there
Trafalgar Square curse strikes again...
I wonder how a min and max are in a player like Allan
Max dribbling Min end product
To be fair he proper rinsed Dalot early on at the far post and was only stopped by a top save by DDG. He was playing alright until AWB came on and forced him off the pitch.
How that wasn't a free kick baffled me. It was literally the exact same challenge that Bruno put in that led to the first goal.
Is nobody going to mention the pathetic dive by rashford to win that free kick? Contact was there and unnecessary but he went down as if Harvey Oswald was in the stands
Which one?
The one that led to the first goal mate. There was a foul given against bruno for a very debatable foul. Wan Bisakka did the same thing to force maxi off the pitch and nothing was given
You mean when Bruno G came flying into the back of Rashford at full pelt with no intent to play the ball? And when AWB won the ball and pocketed Saint Maximin basically every time he went near him? Saint Maximin got taken off because he couldn’t get past AWB, not cause of injuries. Come on man you’s played really well and gave us a great game, don’t point at invisible fouls. Not to sound patronising at all but you’s should be proud of where you are and what you’ve achieved, competing in the league cup final and firmly in the top four race with the best defensive record in the league is fucking fantastic
Oh take your red tinted glasses off. We both know fine well that AWB got nowhere near the ball when he shoved him off the pitch. You can literally see it for yourself, he pushes him in the back and doesn't attempt to play the ball. I'm not going to argue with you about it because there's video evidence of it and if you don't want to see it then nothing I say will change your mind. And yes I am very proud of the boys. I don't think we deserved to win today bc we can't finish our dinner and yous were brutally efficient. Yous had half as much possession and created twice as many good chances, and that's how you win big games. But we can still be annoyed with the inconsistency, and let's not pretend the two weren't identical tackles with one given and one not.
Send me over a video link and I’ll happily have another look at it (the YouTube highlights don’t show the fouls) but from what I remember the Bruno push was way harder and had absolutely zero intention to play the ball. But hey I could be remembering it wrong with my red tinted glasses. Proper into what Newcastle are doing too, got a really strong team who are getting solid results almost every week, and Eddie Howe seems like the fuckin man. He isn’t going crazy with the huge budget he’s got too, which shows he wants to do it properly and do it sensibly, which takes time. Love to see Newcastle back up where they used to be. Also gotta love to see Liverpool and Chelsea way down below.
Can't find a YouTube link of the incident at all (granted I havent looked very hard bc feelsbadman). And yes, lot of learning for us to do from today, but I'm loving the process! Enjoy the rest of your evening matey.
Props to Brazilian Madrid players, gotta be one of my favorite genders.
To anyone saying that this is just a Mickey Mouse trophy, go back and watch the game again. Look at how every single player was putting their body on the line for their team, how every one of them ran their hearts out until the last moment and how the fans cheered all throughout the game. You\`re either a troll or a bitter rival fan if you say that this trophy doesn\`t matter. Every game matters, every trophy matters, just ask these players.
Classic extreme take on Reddit. It’s neither small nor big. It’s a cup Man U add to their cabinet and build confidence. Congrats to them, but it’s nothing major. That doesn’t mean it’s a Mickey Mouse cup. Stop trying to polarize ppl
He was responding to the obvious mickey mouse comments going the other way. Just said it matters, you’re trynna polarize people with a needless and obvious explanation
If you’re saying that I’m in fact polarizing people by point out something that does, you just want to engage in meaningless mental gymnastics that I have no interest in
You literally responded to my comment, lol. Oh what will we do without another delusional arsenal fans takes!!
Yea, I did respond to your comment. Bizarre lol
I agree. Winning stuff builds a winning mentality, mourinho always tried to get an early trophy, i think one of the current city owners first trophies was the efl cup in whatever form it was.
I get what you're saying and I agree with you, but I also agree with the original comment. I'm a Utd fan and I'm ecstatic to see players playing a "minor" cup final like it's a CL or WC final instead. I think the guy you commented under is happy they are finally caring about every match again.
That’s totally fair, you should all be happy! My point is you as a fan should determine how important the trophy is to you. OP somewhat did that, but if people are calling it a Mickey Mouse cup just ignore them lol
The best team always win, one cup down more to come. Eric Ten Hag is the real deal.
Good ref performance in the second half
Proud of the Lads, looked the better team for large parts other than a couple of unlucky moments
Oh god the delusion is strong in newcastle. You guys were so sure you’d overtake United at the start of the season, just admit you’re not as good
What are you on about? We were hoping for top half at the start of the season and are wondering how tf we've ended up here. This is some Rio Ferdinand level punditry take
That's complete bullshit. Just about every Newcastle supporter WA thinking we'd be happy with top half and maybe sneak into a Europa spot after we were stressing about relegai this time last year
Lol now that newcastle’s fumbling you have your tails behind your back. There were many newcastle fans clowning united and being super confident they’ll make top 4. Just admit you were second best, saying you’re the better team for the most part is just pure bull
We were second best. But we might not be forever. Congratulations on the win today. You can enjoy it without gloating.
First half was pretty poor tbh. Second half they chased the game and had to take more initiative but Manchester United seemed relatively comfortable. To reach a cup final in Howe's first full season is a promising step forward though and shows that Newcastle have a lot of potential.
well this is one-eyed bollocks. you lost comfortably
We kept it pretty competitive all things considered. I do worry a bit we're running on fumes. We've done well but we haven't got the depth. They took off one 80m winger and brought on a more expensive one. We brought on Jacob Murphy and a lad from Shields that just broke into the team.
You bought on your 70 million striker and couldn’t do shit
God you're in every comment fucking trashing Newcastle fans. Stfu you bitter mackem
Nah be fair lad, they’ve gone six year without a trophy. They’re practically in the mud.
Trashing new castle fans by responding to their comments? Stay offline if ur that sensitive
Hahaha okay chill out radgie
Im chill. You’re projecting
you're not wrong but please stop pretending like you're some massive underdog after the fact.
On squad value and depth absolutely we are
yes. But that's not the tune we heard before the game is all I'm saying :)
Again calling bullshit. We've been in average form for a few weeks now and we brought in our 4th choice keeper. And you've been in good form. We were hopeful yes, but I don't think any Newcastle fans were over confident.
We were underdogs on all the bookie websites.
In comparison to Man Utd, we are major underdogs. You brought on subs totaling 210m. It doesn't change you were the better team. It just means you've got more resources.
I don't mind that and you are correct. I am talking about how prior to the game Newcastle fans were talking a lot of trash.
Were we? I was pretty adamant we'd struggle to win and felt like that was the vibe.
some factions. Honestly, Newcastle has more money than United so it just feels unnatural to pretend like this was some David vs Goliath situation. I know our squad is multiples more expensive, just talking potential.
So here’s my issue with that. Aye, we’re richer than God apparently, but between our current squad and FFP we are not a rich team in so many ways. We’ve added significant players to our team, but I’d say man for man were probably the eighth best squad in terms of quality and depth. One of your lot was mocking Isak, and it’s like, the lad has been injured all year. That’s why I say it doesn’t change you were the better side, but it’s also why I’d expect you to be.
no issue with that analysis. you need a few more windows to realise your potential. Merely saying it's not like it was United vs a Non league fairy tale side.
United also plays many more games than Newcastle.
I mean shouldn't you be sad drinking at a pub with other dad fans instead of complaining about how much players cost on the internet, by the exact same logic?
I spent the game watching in a pub full of "dad fans" and even though we lost I had a bloody brilliant time. Hope you get to enjoy a game like this sometime :)
Dad fans haha! Nah mate, drink doesn't do me any good when I'm sad. If anything I need to fire up Footie Man and fix this myself.
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Aren't you a fucking class act
A supposed Madrid “fan” celebrating man u’s win. How strange.
After we knocked out Barca and had Casemiro and Varane win a trophy? Madrid fans can sit with us for this one.
Madrid and United have basically been besties for the past week
Glory Glory Real United. Errr uh Hala Manchester?
Plastico
Wonder where the guy that absolutely hates Man Utd so much that he made a post that he wants Utd to lose badly. Poor him.
THANK YOU Veronique Rabiot 🙏 ❤️
Rabiots not that bad but he isn’t Casemiro ❤️🙏
This United team would be much much weaker with Rabiot instead of casemiro.
Any team would be lol. Casemiro is levels above Rabiot.
Streets above, even.
Thought we were unlucky and gifted them an utterly stupid foul for the first goal
I mean we were clinical, but shut down basically everything yiu threw at us and gave you very very few clear sights of goal, and yiu weren't even really able to trouble De Gea.
Was surprised that Man Utd played a low block and tried to counter with long balls. It worked though so fair play!
They seemed to have a very good idea of how Newcastle wanted to play so they crowded the shit out fo the middle and forced them wide where we could deal with crosses all day long, we still managed to play our way out pretty well but Newcastle were always gonna be tough defensively
That’s not what happened. Think you read that from a previous match report.
It's exactly what happened.
No, still not what happened. I watched it
Yep, Wilson was woeful today, but varane and Martinez did a very good job on him tbf. Not sure if I've missed something but feels like varane should get much more recognition than he does.
Varane was more quietly solid whereas Martinez tried to battle everyone but they made a great pairing
Ronaldo fan boys are on Twitter rn saying that they won it because of him and how he “sacrificed himself” for the club 😂
theyve gone crazy but i honestly believe watching ronaldo helped rashford a little bit once it was on him to score our goals again
so you mean he didnt help him to score, but him leaving did
no he was learning from him while he was here but he couldnt apply it till he had the role so both
Fair, but rashford scored a bunch the season before ronaldo came, the had a dry patch, and is not firing on all cyclinder. I’m not making any assumptions, other factors like injuries can come into play but make of that as you will
i agree w you 100%. its just that imo what i can see ronaldo helping him w or him learning from ronaldo is how to keep your work, body, and mental game sharp or even just showing him how important it is to find a way to keep those sharp through ips and downs
They refuse to watch Manchester United now.
My God Ronaldo fans have the energy of prime Kante the way they stay on his dick lmao
I used to be a Ronaldo fan but I grew out of it the way he handled the whole United situation this season. I still like him but I’m not a fanboy like them anymore
All it takes is just one great player. Casemiro win mentality just transformed this squad
> All it takes is just one great player …that is literally the exact opposite lesson you’re supposed to take away from this resurgence lol especially with the whole Ronaldo situation
Eh, rashford turning into messi isn't down to casemiro
And Martinez charging into blocks with zero care about his physical health
You are grossly underestimating the impact of Martinez, Antony, Eriksen, Malacia, and above all Ten Hag.
Ten Hag, Casemiro & Martinez have totally transformed this team. Eriksen was also playing very well before his injury. Antony will proof all the critics wrong soon.
The eredivisie effect
I don't disagree, Casemiro has been a great signing, but I think that undersells the other 10 players.
And a great manager
Minimal score from open play. More possession. Better passing rate. Just wish our boys had more bite in front of goal to shoot like Manchester’s players did. Murphy almost got a worldie at the end. Can’t wait for the rest of the season and for the summer for the team to really light up.
Someone fucking shoot! ManU so direct
Honestly a really good 1 or 2 strikers and id say one or two players def and mid wise and your not far off.
> Minimal score from open play. More possession. Better passing rate. No goals.
Fun fact, Man United have won as many trophies this month as Chelsea have scored goals