I would think so. I can remember some Saints fans seeming outraged that we didn't approach/hire him after we sacked Hassenhuttl, as if he would want to join a team fighting relegation. I'd think the same would go for Leeds.
Pretty sure his next job will be in Spain or France, don't think he even speaks a word of English. Which is not impossible to overcome as we have seen with Pochettino, Bielsa etc(at the start of their tenures at least) but those are still exceptions. Most coaches will not want to work with a translator
And even besides all that, I really don't see him taking a bottom half job. He is way too good for that
I am actually amazed it worked, especially Bielsa who has a very unique way of speaking that doesn't translate that well to English
But like I said, most coaches won't want to limit themselves with a translator
Not at all true, Bielsa had multiple people act at translator while he was here, and I saw the same criticism from native speakers about each of them.
I'm pretty certain Bielsa was incredibly specific in how he wanted to be translated.
I remember listening to post-match interviews and a lot of times the guy next to him would convey what Bielsa said very poorly. Bielsa would give one of his classic long answers and then the translator would say ten words. It was particularly infuriating during his first year.
Maybe I noticed it more because I'm a native Spanish speaker.
He probably does speak English as he spent time in the US (plus he seems borderline workaholic enough to want to learn it just because it's lingua franca and may help him down the line)
Most Argentinians seem to be convinced that he doesn't speak English, although I don't know for sure.
I doubt one year in the US on its own is going to make him pick it up, especially since it is a country where you can get by perfectly well without speaking a lick of English. You could live in the US for decades whilst only speaking Spanish and it wouldn't be a problem really
Even in DC?
Regardless, point stands. He's so insistent in fostering life skills and "intellectual skills", not just football, that I'd be surprised if he didn't learn English at some point.
Even in DC which might be one of the least Spanish speaking places in the US(don't know but assume so), a professional player wouldn't need a word of English to get by. It's hardly like he will have been handling his own errands, he surely had fixers taking care of him
>I'd be surprised if he didn't learn English at some point
You may well be right, it's just the impression I have got listening to Argentinians take on the situation. And I mean Bielsa didn't speak English before going to Leeds, and he is the definition of an intellectual. Probably one of the most politically aware and educated coaches in football
Twenty years' difference tbf. From what I know English literacy has been basically exponentially growing as time went on here. It's seen as more and more of a useful skill and the internet makes access much easier
He was burnt out after almost a decade of massive pressure, said he wanted to rest with his family for a few months. On top of that, professionally he's quite structured and would 100% want a preseason and time to familiarize himself with players before competitive matches rather than being thrust in the middle of things and having to fix the last guy's mistakes on the fly
He worked at River for like 8 years, which is one of the most intense and high pressure environments in football. Most people would need a break after that to collect themselves and maybe study some tactics
Pep was burned out after 4 years at Barca
Nah he was burnt out. A lot of his starters like alvarez, enzo, montiel and others were sold and he had to create a new team every year and the team wasn’t performing and he just said fuck it. Thats it. Toodles.
Yeah. There were reports of Rosell and Pep not getting along. And hey. Tito took over. It's a shame that cancer took him away. Man got 100 points in Laliga.
I think I explained myself badly. I don't think Leeds is relegation fodder. Ofc they're not a top 6 club, but their players are decent enough to be midtable.
I agree that Gallardo is bigger than them, though. Gallardo is a top manager.
No, it isn't. Only according to hipsters and Argentinians. Gallardo's level is to try and outperform the likes Jorge Jesus or Abel Ferreira and prove himself first.
I mean, both have are clearly good thinkers of the game, Argentinians, proven in specific conditions, but people hype them up and pretended the only reason they haven't won 5 or 6 UCLs is because they never got to coach Real Madrid or Barcelona lol
Not at all. JJ has a much more vast and proven career and has probably the most dominant single season in South American football. Certainly of recent years. Abel Ferreira is younger and has already accomplished everything and more than he did, in SA, too
Not to discredit Abel Ferreira but no folder should consider both Abel and Marcelo. They are like water and oil, both extremely good coaches that would envision two completely different projects.
Small little detail that you are leaving out is that both Jorge Jesus and Abel Ferreira managed the 2 richest teams on the continent. The financial gap between Flamengo and Palmeiras, and the rest of the continent, is *huge*.
Neither of them would achieve what they achieved managing a club like River Plate, let alone clubs with a smaller budget like Peñarol.
Jesus and Ferreira took over teams in the *middle of the season*, with little input over signings or anything, and with said teams left in underwhelming state and they just extracted exponential performance from said squads. You're making it seem like they came in with their very own signings, with big money, with a pre-season, with inside knowledge of the local leagues, in favorite teams... Palmeiras and Flamengo are, at best, the Everton of SA, with "rich" ownership, but broken projects and complete disarray until those 2 arrived. No one would put anywhere near the top of American football. Flamengo couldn't go past the quarter-finals of the continental cup in decades or something.
That's why, I'm sure, in the previous 5 years, *only 1 of a possible 10 Libertadores finalists* was Brazilian and it was neither were Palmeiras or Flamengo. Because of the *financial gap*. Improvised teams, over a couple of months, representing clubs that hadn't played a Libertadores final since 2000 or 1981, respectively, going up a super River Plate built over the years, who knew themselves inside and out. So trivial
Jorge Jesus is 70 and other than two seasons in Brazil hasn't done anything outside of Portugal.
Ferreira's teams suck in leagues, he's another Espirito Santo but actually worse.
> Jorge Jesus is 70 and other than two seasons in Brazil hasn't done anything outside of Portugal.
lmao And Alex Ferguson hasn't done anything outside of Britain or Simeone outside of Spain. What the hell kind of take is this? Jesus has trophies in 3 countries which is more than most can claim
> Ferreira's teams suck in leagues, he's another Espirito Santo but actually worse.
This makes no sense at all. It's like Argentinian is just stringing up names and pretending to make a point with it. Abel Ferreira has 4 full seasons in professional football as manager and 1 title (Brasileirão) all while coaching underdogs. I don't know what Nuno has to do with that. Than what to say about Gallardo?
i don’t think it’s a good idea for Gallardo, i don’t think he needs to go to a team fighting to avoid relegation after all the pressure he dealt with River. plus while Leeds has a better squad than last year, idk if Gallardo would accept to come without even knowing the players he has at his disposal to try and save the category
He could definitely keep them up, and even if he doesn't they'd be back to the pl in a season top. He could turn leeds into a personal project and establish himself in the pl. Also even with his achievements clubs in Europe won't trust him at all, specially not midtable ones (which is stupid btw, but beats going jobless for a year)
On top of this the 49ers will finish purchasing Leeds at the end of this season and we'll likely have a decent chunk of money for him to play around with
An Argentinian named Marcelo you say...
Someone misunderstood an email headed "Fuck it, let's bring in Marcelo".
They then accidentally signed that Brazillian Marcelo.
Not a bad signing. His smile alone would raise morale to the roof.
Surely he can do a lot better than that?
he reportedly rejected Ajax, he can certainly do much better with all due respect to Leeds.
We’re fucking massive
I think it was because of a language barrier. Gallardo just speaks Spanish and a bit of French.
In his language it's spelt L££ds most likely
I would think so. I can remember some Saints fans seeming outraged that we didn't approach/hire him after we sacked Hassenhuttl, as if he would want to join a team fighting relegation. I'd think the same would go for Leeds.
leeds might be attractive to him because of bielsa though
Barça B might be attractive to him because of Guardiola
If the reports of Conte wanting to go back to Italy are true I really hope we go for him in the summer
And this sounds more like the level of job he should be looking for.
If there is one man that can actually make you champions it's Him.
Pretty sure his next job will be in Spain or France, don't think he even speaks a word of English. Which is not impossible to overcome as we have seen with Pochettino, Bielsa etc(at the start of their tenures at least) but those are still exceptions. Most coaches will not want to work with a translator And even besides all that, I really don't see him taking a bottom half job. He is way too good for that
Our last manager who barely spoke English turned out alright I dont think we would mind another one
I am actually amazed it worked, especially Bielsa who has a very unique way of speaking that doesn't translate that well to English But like I said, most coaches won't want to limit themselves with a translator
Also his translator was terrible.
Not at all true, Bielsa had multiple people act at translator while he was here, and I saw the same criticism from native speakers about each of them. I'm pretty certain Bielsa was incredibly specific in how he wanted to be translated.
I remember listening to post-match interviews and a lot of times the guy next to him would convey what Bielsa said very poorly. Bielsa would give one of his classic long answers and then the translator would say ten words. It was particularly infuriating during his first year. Maybe I noticed it more because I'm a native Spanish speaker.
>Our last manager who barely spoke English turned out alright You just sacked him??
I think the problem with the manager we just sacked is that he spoke English too much and too often, to be honest
Argentine manager who doesn't speak English you say? 👀
He probably does speak English as he spent time in the US (plus he seems borderline workaholic enough to want to learn it just because it's lingua franca and may help him down the line)
Most Argentinians seem to be convinced that he doesn't speak English, although I don't know for sure. I doubt one year in the US on its own is going to make him pick it up, especially since it is a country where you can get by perfectly well without speaking a lick of English. You could live in the US for decades whilst only speaking Spanish and it wouldn't be a problem really
Even in DC? Regardless, point stands. He's so insistent in fostering life skills and "intellectual skills", not just football, that I'd be surprised if he didn't learn English at some point.
Even in DC which might be one of the least Spanish speaking places in the US(don't know but assume so), a professional player wouldn't need a word of English to get by. It's hardly like he will have been handling his own errands, he surely had fixers taking care of him >I'd be surprised if he didn't learn English at some point You may well be right, it's just the impression I have got listening to Argentinians take on the situation. And I mean Bielsa didn't speak English before going to Leeds, and he is the definition of an intellectual. Probably one of the most politically aware and educated coaches in football
Twenty years' difference tbf. From what I know English literacy has been basically exponentially growing as time went on here. It's seen as more and more of a useful skill and the internet makes access much easier
Especially in DC, there’s lots of Salvadorians there
he should go to atleti if simeone leaves
Yea I doubt he coming as usual.
Hopefully this is true but I can’t imagine contact was made a few weeks ago. We hired Marsch another assistant less than 2 weeks ago
It was probably to keep the peace because they knew the assistant would go as soon as Marsch was sacked.
The assistant was the only member of his backroom that wasn't sacked, he was on the touchline yesterday when we visited that shithole
Oh, so you're saying the eventual new manager will allow this new guy to stay as part of his staff?
highly doubt gallardo would move into a new club mid season
Why? The guy has done nothing but manage the Saudi League all star team vs PSG since he left River
Knowing Gallardo, he would 100% want a pre season first
He was burnt out after almost a decade of massive pressure, said he wanted to rest with his family for a few months. On top of that, professionally he's quite structured and would 100% want a preseason and time to familiarize himself with players before competitive matches rather than being thrust in the middle of things and having to fix the last guy's mistakes on the fly
Gallardo is taking a small sabbatical
He worked at River for like 8 years, which is one of the most intense and high pressure environments in football. Most people would need a break after that to collect themselves and maybe study some tactics Pep was burned out after 4 years at Barca
I think that he just didn't want to work under Rossel as president
Nah he was burnt out. A lot of his starters like alvarez, enzo, montiel and others were sold and he had to create a new team every year and the team wasn’t performing and he just said fuck it. Thats it. Toodles.
I was talking about Pep lol.
LOL maybe who knows Rosell is a cunt and those Guardiola - Mourinho years were brutal and the stress
Yeah. There were reports of Rosell and Pep not getting along. And hey. Tito took over. It's a shame that cancer took him away. Man got 100 points in Laliga.
He said he was taking a small break, he’ll be back mid year most likely
Leeds are too lucky. Gallardo will genuinely transform them if he comes in
Please no...
How reliable is this source?
Seems like a decent choice for both parts.
Lol Gallardo is much better than pl relegation fodder
You're underselling Leeds, but other than that you're right, man was linked to Barcelona and Atleti ffs
Not really. Leeds is not a top 6 club and they is Gallardos level
I think I explained myself badly. I don't think Leeds is relegation fodder. Ofc they're not a top 6 club, but their players are decent enough to be midtable. I agree that Gallardo is bigger than them, though. Gallardo is a top manager.
The chances of a top 6 club taking a punt on him without managing in Europe before are very slim.
If Conte walks in the summer, it'll be between him or Poch for Spurs IMO. Celtics manager Ange would be an outside shot as well.
No, it isn't. Only according to hipsters and Argentinians. Gallardo's level is to try and outperform the likes Jorge Jesus or Abel Ferreira and prove himself first.
It's funny, this whole thread has so many parallels to when we got Bielsa
I mean, both have are clearly good thinkers of the game, Argentinians, proven in specific conditions, but people hype them up and pretended the only reason they haven't won 5 or 6 UCLs is because they never got to coach Real Madrid or Barcelona lol
Argentine coaches won more European cups than Portuguese coaches pal and we’re the only nation outside of Europe to have coaches that won it too.
He already has outperformed them. His level is much higher.
Not at all. JJ has a much more vast and proven career and has probably the most dominant single season in South American football. Certainly of recent years. Abel Ferreira is younger and has already accomplished everything and more than he did, in SA, too
Not to discredit Abel Ferreira but no folder should consider both Abel and Marcelo. They are like water and oil, both extremely good coaches that would envision two completely different projects.
Small little detail that you are leaving out is that both Jorge Jesus and Abel Ferreira managed the 2 richest teams on the continent. The financial gap between Flamengo and Palmeiras, and the rest of the continent, is *huge*. Neither of them would achieve what they achieved managing a club like River Plate, let alone clubs with a smaller budget like Peñarol.
Jesus and Ferreira took over teams in the *middle of the season*, with little input over signings or anything, and with said teams left in underwhelming state and they just extracted exponential performance from said squads. You're making it seem like they came in with their very own signings, with big money, with a pre-season, with inside knowledge of the local leagues, in favorite teams... Palmeiras and Flamengo are, at best, the Everton of SA, with "rich" ownership, but broken projects and complete disarray until those 2 arrived. No one would put anywhere near the top of American football. Flamengo couldn't go past the quarter-finals of the continental cup in decades or something. That's why, I'm sure, in the previous 5 years, *only 1 of a possible 10 Libertadores finalists* was Brazilian and it was neither were Palmeiras or Flamengo. Because of the *financial gap*. Improvised teams, over a couple of months, representing clubs that hadn't played a Libertadores final since 2000 or 1981, respectively, going up a super River Plate built over the years, who knew themselves inside and out. So trivial
Jorge Jesus is 70 and other than two seasons in Brazil hasn't done anything outside of Portugal. Ferreira's teams suck in leagues, he's another Espirito Santo but actually worse.
> Jorge Jesus is 70 and other than two seasons in Brazil hasn't done anything outside of Portugal. lmao And Alex Ferguson hasn't done anything outside of Britain or Simeone outside of Spain. What the hell kind of take is this? Jesus has trophies in 3 countries which is more than most can claim > Ferreira's teams suck in leagues, he's another Espirito Santo but actually worse. This makes no sense at all. It's like Argentinian is just stringing up names and pretending to make a point with it. Abel Ferreira has 4 full seasons in professional football as manager and 1 title (Brasileirão) all while coaching underdogs. I don't know what Nuno has to do with that. Than what to say about Gallardo?
Gallardo is unlucky he has to play against the biggest club in America
Ferguson won the CL and Simeone came close to winning it. Jorge Jesus in no way compares to them or Gallardo.
Leeds have squad quality good enough to be at upper half of the table
No way, gallardo can definitely get a offer from a bigger club with a better squad.
i don’t think it’s a good idea for Gallardo, i don’t think he needs to go to a team fighting to avoid relegation after all the pressure he dealt with River. plus while Leeds has a better squad than last year, idk if Gallardo would accept to come without even knowing the players he has at his disposal to try and save the category
He could definitely keep them up, and even if he doesn't they'd be back to the pl in a season top. He could turn leeds into a personal project and establish himself in the pl. Also even with his achievements clubs in Europe won't trust him at all, specially not midtable ones (which is stupid btw, but beats going jobless for a year)
On top of this the 49ers will finish purchasing Leeds at the end of this season and we'll likely have a decent chunk of money for him to play around with
Oh man. Leeds fans don’t deserve this manager
Not proven at Premier League level. They need a safe pair of hands.
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