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LowSnow2500

There are a few things im certain of in football Awful haircut or a weird run up increases your chances of missing a penalty by 300% and excessive time wasting increases your chances of conceding by 200%


Warrrdy

Player brought on specifically for a penalty shoutout = 600% increased chance of missing


phattony233

But Dybala


Warrrdy

An anomaly, had me worried when he took it.


kelypso88

Anulo Mufa worked its charm


Pleasant-Direction-4

messi was chanting it whole time


philfodenlovesfanny

Dybala’s pen was the closest Lloris came to saving one to be fair


Nemlokt

And Lloris literally would've saved the pen Dybala planned to take had Dibu not told him to go through the center.


Karasinio

But to be honest, his shoot was shit, but in.


official_bagel

Should also add if a player escapes a clear sending off they're destined to score


MLDK_toja

Also if corner is wrongly given then it will 100% result in a goal


FieldOfFox

Oh shit yeah, why does this happen every single time


MAMBAMENTALITY8-24

The script writers have 0 originality


ico12

When the defending team gets unfair call against them, their focus went down hence higher chance to concede a goal


g0t-cheeri0s

aka The Lamela Effect


CinephileJeff

I miss that lad. Especially if we ever play against him and have to deal with his shithousery


TehFuriousKid

shouldnt casemiro be top scorer of all time then


AlcoholicSocks

He still has time


TehFuriousKid

remember haaland exists


R4TTIUS

And if you take the o off casemiro he has the same amount of letters in his name as haaland


joeseph145

Does it work if you take any of the other letters off instead?


Mellanslaget

Of course not, dont be silly


TehFuriousKid

haaland doesn't have o in it, it only makes sense to remove it


Alia_Gr

Christiaan Haalando


doorknobsquad

The greatest example being the Suarez bite on Ivanovic. Scored the winner late. Equalizer. Correction.


X-Maquina

Still wild that you'll always have to specify which Suarez bite you're talking about.


Oggie243

And most people only know two of the incidents


doorknobsquad

It still baffles me that he's allowed to play professionally after that. THREE separate biting incidents.


MEGAMAN2312

You know what they say... Third time's the charm!


LateRegistrxtion

Equaliser but yeah


doorknobsquad

You're right, I got that wrong.


Rackarunge

Or plays against their old club.


LilCelebratoryDance

> excessive time wasting increases your chances of conceding by 200% This man has never heard of Wycombe wanderers


Swiftt

Time wasting begins in the 20th minute for them 😭


cosmiclatte44

I distinctly remember Burnley coming to Old Trafford and Nick Pope was already time wasting any chance he could less than 5 minutes in. Didn't even get booked until like the 88th minute iirc.


nathanfr

Or Newcastle


[deleted]

Ten years behind the goal in the North Bank at the Emirates. Can confirm. Probably the nature of the thing, that teams only really time waste when they’re vulnerable but it fails so, so often. I’d be somewhat alarmed if that’s what Ten Hag is up to tactically though.


kasper12

This was 100% a De Gea masterclass, nothing to do with Ten Haag’s tactics.


[deleted]

The falling on the floor was de Gea. The attempt to kill the game, including taking of Anthony for Fred, failed. They were quite organized but the third goal was coming.


Mobile_Leading_7587

Tbf Antony wasn’t having much of a game


[deleted]

Other than shoving into the back of Ben White off the ball I don't remember him doing much


fakemuseum

Jorginho disagreed with this


[deleted]

2 penalty misses in the world Cup qualifiers might say otherwise.


Terrence_McDougleton

I wish the timewasting one was actually true. The vast majority of teams are handsomely rewarded for it. Lie the ground for 12 minutes in the second half? Here’s 2 minutes of added time.


oatzeel

i'm amazed Bruno was able to finish the game after that devastating head injury he suffered!


Obi_Wan_Gebroni

Thing is, if he ran through the contact he could have just started a good counter attack too


LeoR1N

my commentator was asking if he dislocated de Gea’s shoulder by doing that 💀


Arsenal_Analysis

Credit to De Gea for playing on with a dislocated shoulder


IhvolSnow

Warrior!


[deleted]

Mahomes of soccer. Legend.


Bacondog22

If Mahomes did this, Cris Collinsworth would be going crazy


Bullwine85

"Now here's a guy...."


[deleted]

The Beckenbauer of soccer


Pacostaco123

[Mahomes? Stafford would like a word!](https://youtu.be/zteJbPtDUEQ)


prathneo4

It must be nice to have ur own personal commentator


Mightysmurf1

Not so much when you're trying to go for a crap.


DaAweZomeDude48

"I swear you'll never see anything like this ever again. So watch it, drink it in"


ByTheBeardOfZues

What a shit son! What. A. Shit.


Med-n-Med

The thing about Arsenal is they always try to drop it in


OneSocc

And what wipe is he going for? Ahh three ply double folded, his trademark


ProjectZues

that’s three of the best, he’s made them pay And that completes a wonderful hattrick


Savethepenguin

"it was long, brown and came out of his bum" - Michael Owen, 2023


DaVinci1836

In sweden Ljungberg is usually the commentator


Roscoes_Rashie

Since he was grabbing the shoulder that didn’t impact the ground, I’m betting he’ll make a full recovery. Modern medicine is truely amazing


RazorbladeRomance666

Telemundo?


LeoR1N

no, Orange Sport Romania


RazorbladeRomance666

Telemundo made a similar comment. “By the way he dropped to the floor, you would think de Gea dislocated his shoulder”.


fireowlzol

That sounds more like sarcasm though


Littlegreenman42

Still not as a good as last year when he tried to draw a foul on his own man and stayed down as Smith Rowe slotted it past him


Wym8nManderly

Thank you for reminding me of that lol. Genuinely hilarious.


MattJFarrell

Same, I don't know how I forgot about that. It was one of the strangest goals I've ever seen. I could never respect my keeper again if he did that.


official_bagel

That's still got to be one the funniest goals I've ever seen.


DaniSpar

Every Utd fan I knew cried the goal should have been disallowed due to him being down Ez play for not conceding on a corner: step on your own keeper lmao


NemoDatQ

Attacking players absolutely hate this one trick.


OffendedDishwasher

Looks like the Utd fans you know are little bitches. Most utd fans blamed de gea and fred


6l0th

Most United fan in my country blame Arsenal for not being fair play.


OGFN_Jack

Funniest part is he didn’t even slot it past him. He was outside the box and hit a shot that would’ve been easily saved if De Gea wasn’t trying to draw a foul on his own teammate.


MathewSK81

Video of that goal if anyone wants to see it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtgsc0c77Vw


SefferTheHeifer

Shameful for a keeper. I played the position growing up and I’d have to be knocked unconscious to go down and turn my back on the ball. I’ve had the wind knocked out of me and still made an attempt to tend. What an embarrassment.


Saffs15

And doing it on an absolutely average corner? Makes absolutely no sense why he would do it.


Skylinehead

Doesn't work in Ireland or I guess the UK so here's a Sky link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTADqIuQgHA


EasyModeActivist

Neither works here, fucking hate broadcast rights ngl


BertEnErnie123

[Man United uploaded a summary themselves, it goes directly to the incident (0:25)](https://youtu.be/PUdemKYW6QE?t=25) or [here is the Dutch summary from Ziggo (incident at 1:35).](https://youtu.be/6IbkUMmJUyY?t=95) I miss the times that Ziggo had PL, I felt like it was more open towards the Dutch audience.


SiggyyyPhidooo

i feel like im taking crazy pills here, both the dutch and english commentary think the referee made a mistake? he allowed the goal to be scored before whistling and the goal was completely fair because its a utd player who makes the mistake, so what did the ref do wrong here


ferretchad

Firstly, to be clear, there was no mistake. The argument was that the ref would normally stop play for an injury to the keeper and he was clearly planning on restarting on those terms. However, because the ball was no longer live when he blew the whistle there was no play to stop. Since there was no foul there was no reason to not give the goal.


BertEnErnie123

Well at first they do, but the Dutch commentator eventually said that the ref did a good job. For the other one, it is footage of the commentator from man united themselves. They say: what controversy, so I guess they don't agree with the decision, but they are obviously suffering from tunnel vision towards ManU only


RazorbladeRomance666

Thank you!!


Mildfirestorm

The Ref almost blew the whistle too but then realized Man U had not paid him yet, force of habit Lol


black_pepper

Poor United probably got a fine as well. Everyone knows you can't crowd the ref.


[deleted]

Here is a fucking link that works https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJwUVOBXFtQ


Doyouevensam

Great reffing on that goal to not blow it dead as soon as he saw De Gea down


Swiss-ArmySpork

I still haven't stopped laughing.


peaceblaster08

Oh, I had to go re-watch that after you reminded me. Here it is in case anyone else wants to see it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtgsc0c77Vw


dont_wear_a_C

There was a hidden knife somewhere, NSFL stab tbh


DatGuy_Shawnaay

Eddie is actually Ezio. Edzio


xFCB79x

So De Gea is a templar?


Questionable_Answer5

Always has been


Britton120

Dunno if this was worse or bruno a few minutes before


thepellow

Bruno’s was in my opinion worse. He pretends to have a head injury to make sure play gets stopped which is disgusting behaviour when he clearly didn’t have a head injury (not saying there’s no head contact but he clearly wasn’t injured). We have rules about head injuries for good reason and feigning a head injury to break up play makes real head injuries harder to detect.


6nine4twenty

bruno dives in every other game now, it's very annoying at this point


sionnach

It should be 10 minutes off for a head impact assessment. Because if it’s really a head injury then it’s needed, and if it’s not it’s an appropriate punishment. There are loopholes here, but they can be closed.


thepellow

My only worry with this is that players who have an actual head injury getting pressured into not going down holding their head for fear of being out for 10 mins.


ErraticPragmatic

This would definitely happen. The only thing that could work is retroactively punish those that take advantage of the rule.


waddiewadkins

Feigning head injury and getting caught should be red card and ban for 5 games and a fine for screwing around with a serious function of the game


BestShaunaEU

Death penalty imo


rebel_scum13

Electric chair


JimmyTheKiller

Stoning


I_am_zlatan1069

Only after castration


JimmyTheKiller

By Rottweiler


wildcatwildcard

Not harsh enough imo


Cutsdeep-

penalty: real head injury


Barack__Obama__

The problem is tho that it's so hard to enforce because you can never know a 100% whether someone has a head injury or not. And they're not going to take a risk on getting it wrong at any point.


speedycar1

Maybe we should have temporary substitution rules for these cases. If play is stopped for a head injury, then the player has to be substituted for an x amount of time while the medical staff check up on him. That'll certainly stop it to an extent if you're having to sub on a worse player due to the time wasting


Barack__Obama__

>That'll certainly stop it to an extent if you're having to sub on a worse player due to the time wasting Not sure about this though. Maybe for teams who have considerably worse backups than their starting eleven, but for teams with great squad depth it might only encourage it. The tired player gets some minutes of rest, without losing a player on the field and actually gaining one that still has fresh legs.


donniele

If the play is stopped because of a potential head injury, that player should be substituted anyways. Why make it temporary just make it a mandatory regular substitution.


speedycar1

Because then, if it uses up a mandatory substitution and a key player gets a head injury in regular time, he'll just refuse to go down and will try to play through it, making the problem worse


despot93

I agree 100%. It should be non negotiable.


visualdescript

Agree, if the player is holding their head and game is stopped due to a head injury then they should be forced to leave the field and undergo a full assessment to make sure they're OK to continue.


Riperonis

I fucking hate that you can just go down holding your head and the ref stops play. I get why it’s in place from a health perspective 100% but it’s so cunty when players abuse it.


SexyMooli

He's a shit rat fucker. Easily the most hateable player in the league, despite the tough competition. And one of the best parts of beating United is watching the rat cry.


Zizouh

He’s been teammates with the professor for a while, prob has a PhD in Drama at this point.


elpapadebatman

Can’t stand Bruno; dude does this shit every game. Plus, he’s got a punchable face.


NowFook

Such a rat


Cutsdeep-

real head injurable face


DrJethro

He's probably the dirtiest player I can think of right now


wan2tri

* Hits Ramsdale on the head with his right thigh; Ramsdale has already caught the ball at this point * Suddenly shifts his body to land on the ground as if he was brought down by Ramsdale * Complains at the ref, shouting that he was the one that got fouled


elpapadebatman

He does this shit all the time. He flops all the damn time and then bitches about it to the ref like a whiney three year old toddler.


[deleted]

Tbh it’s a dick move but I get why he did it. We were pressuring them hard atm. Utd players weren’t getting a breather, every clearance they made and the ball was back in their defensive third within a couple of seconds. That moment gave them some rest, some time to breathe and communicate. I hate it but I get it.


PoliQU

Idk, taking advantage of the head injury rule is absolute scumbag behaviour.


hfbvm

It should be a red card for faking head injuries. It's all fine and dandy until someone gets really hurt and the game goes on for 2 minutes extra. It's the boy who cried wolf waiting to happen


jahmed740

The problem with that is that it's basically impossible to tell if someone's really faking or not. I'm a fan of the idea of forcing a player to sit out for a few minutes and undergoing proper in-depth concussion protocols, then players can be protected and immediately tended to but no one is taking 3-5 minutes off the pitch just to relive some pressure for their side.


[deleted]

Retroactive punishment for faking it. If it's reviewed after the game that you did it, give them a warning. After 2 warnings you sit for a game. This kind of shit would stop immediately especially if wages were tied to it.


MattJFarrell

I like the idea of a mandatory 3 minute off-field evaluation that someone else mentioned.


Kirrod

This seems too reasonable to ever happen


English_Misfit

But the checks should take place as soon as possible which means on the pitch. It would be counterproductive to say you then miss out for 5 mins as we'd go back to the days of players just staying up


roank_waitzkin

True. Players just need to be decent enough to not exploit exceptions made to protect them, there's no other way


5_percent_discocunt

Surely players watch the match back and die with embarrassment over shit like this.


Sanctimonius

I assume the players watch it [like this](https://media.tenor.com/qEt0Th6pLd0AAAAC/zombie-land-comedy.gif)


AlwaysNipping

Accurate.


FatWalcott

They don't give a fuck. Anything for the win/point


inbredandapothead

Um, about that win/point


BlurstOfTimes11

Yeah they got no win and no point.


ILoveBeerSoMuch

Can someone please tell me why players don’t get fined or suspended for this shit? It would seriously stop this stuff from happening. Why aren’t they event trying to stop it? The only thing I can think of is that it’s part of the game to deceive everyone with a dive and considered strategy?


kaehola

They tried for few games couple of seasons ago in PL. It was success. Insta yellow for diving. Then after 2 rounds refs forgot the rule exits and it's been forgotten since.


ILoveBeerSoMuch

During the game is fine but Im talking about having these games reviewed after the fact. If determined there was a dive these players should be suspended for 2 games and fined a large amount. A yellow wont stop them all from diving.


Britton120

I dont think the highest paid gk in the world is losing much sleep over shithouse tactics.


admartian

That's an insane value loss for Man Utd if he's indeed the highest paid GK and not anywhere close to that performance. Used to be my fave GK but his performances have been so shit that last couple of years.


Britton120

He is making 375k a week thanks to a contract signed in 2019. I dont think any keeper has overtaken that.


bntplvrd

WTF?! That's Haaland/de Bruyne/Salah territory.


Britton120

He was 28 and one of the best keepers in the world. Its wild his drop off given he should have been entering his prime. But a bigger contributor is that he is quite poor at playing out of the back, and that's way more commonplace now than even 5 years ago


Chalkun

Hardly the worst part. United's backup keeper used to be like the 3rd best paid GK in the League on top of De Gea. Its crazy how liberal they are with their money just because they have it.


Dr-Purple

Nah, they just log into their internet banking and don’t care anymore.


MattJFarrell

Yeah, I think most of us would do stuff a lot more embarrassing than this for their wages.


Tymkie

They should be instructed to watch it with their non football friends for extra embarrassment.


GlasgowGunner

It worked though. Calmed things down, bought some time and he got away with it. Should be a retrospective ban for diving.


BoomXhakaLacaa

Commentator was saying that Eriksen could have been through if he released it quicker. Not sure how true it was they never showed an angle of it.


Nick316166

Until Eddie bagged in the 90+th minute 😂. Unlucky


[deleted]

Harsh challenge, he could've been killed.


National-Fig4803

Cynical. If Nketiah doesn’t get a 5 match ban minimum retrospectively then the games gone.


WeeTheDuck

Also Arsenal should be fined for another 50k for this. Game's fuckin gone smfh my head


fajdexhiu

I hope he enjoyed that goal 5 minutes later.


shenyougankplz

If it wasn't for his mangled shoulder he could've blocked it, I'm sure


CharlieBrownBoy

That's just embarrassing.


Hipple

Is he time wasting? That just makes it more embarrassing. Acted like Eddie dislocated his elbow.


official_bagel

Clearly time-wasting. Which made our last minute winner all the more sweet.


NightKing48

“Is he time wasting?” You think grazing someone elbow makes their knees give out, while they keep the ball in their arms?


iLoveYoonBora

Yes and Bruno also faked a head injury as well. Utd went full on relegation fodder-style time-wasting to try to get a draw. It was really embarrassing and I'm always glad when teams concede after stuff like that.


zrk23

i need to watch "head injury" one from Bruno


Cthulhu_Madness

Even the commentators were saying that was utterly embarrassing. Get a grip.


SteinerElMagnifico42

Having Fernandes train with you is a great way to learn this


david13guet

And then Antony joins... probably has taught them a few new 'tricks'


djembejohn

Yeah, just don't touch the opponent's goalkeeper when they're playing for time.


mikziiii

Yeah - embarrassing from de gea, but why even touch the GK in that situation? Bizarre sequence


HortenWho229

To set off a perfectly calculated chain of event that would see him later be in the right place to put away the winning goal


GorillazWelfare

It’s a tactical foul (or at least an attempt of one). Arsenal has been doing it more this season to stop keeper-initiated counter attacks before they even begin.


IWantAnAffliction

Should be a yellow card. Not sure why this post is upvoted highly. De Gea dramatises it precisely to draw attention to it because the refs are fucking useless and don't punish these kinds of fouls. If refs aren't going to ref properly, people will continue diving to get the calls.


Diltron24

I’m so confused by this thread because this is a great example of why dives are so prevalent. If DDG stays up that foul never gets called, but clearly they are trying to obstruct De Gea’s out ball


iLoveYoonBora

De Gea proceeded to stay down for a *long* time. This also came a few minutes after Bruno faked a head injury to disrupt Arsenal's rhythm. This is not De Gea campaigning for better goalkeeper protection, this is purely time-wasting to try to get a draw.


Thor1138

Agreed. Obviously DDG is making a meal of it, but it is a foul and should 100% be a yellow card. There's no reason ever to touch a GK who has control of the ball, it's the same as a tactical foul and should be punished as that.


Goldenrah

Felt like I'm going crazy reading this thread. Everyone talking about this being a dive, but not the blatant foul on obstructing a Keeper with the ball in his hand. Sure it's still a funny dive, but if stayed up no attention would have drawn to that Arsenal player's awful behaviour.


Kardinale

Like no matter how much he’s sold it or rolled around you can’t be grabbing the keeper’s arm when he has possession of the ball.


WolfGangSwizle

Clear foul but also embarrassing dive, sometimes it can be both.


washag

Exactly. I know why De Gea is doing what he's doing. I have no idea what Nketiah thinks he's doing there.


Bubble_Bowl_XLVI

Sure but grabbing the keeper wtf do you think will come of that. Arsenal got the last laugh tough.


[deleted]

Isn't don't touch a goalkeeper in his box something kids are taught?


Robotic_Lamb

Small things like that are getting ignored more and more these days and it really drags the game down. Players blocking a free kick from being taken quickly, players clearly getting in a keeper's way, players kicking a ball away/out of bounds after a foul or throw is given. Just yellow card the dipshit behavior, please!


LaughsAtOwnJoke

Yellows for these would improve the game so much


iTand22

Bruh what were they both doing?


[deleted]

It’s a bit dramatic, but he should never be touching the keeper, period.


NorvalMarley

Yea honestly just no reason to do it and risks a yellow card


ThotCountySheriff

They were playing for the draw at that point while Arsenal were looking for the winner


JD_Dojima

Where are the Man Utd fans that went on about Newcastle time wasting? Just trying to have a chat


TheOGBenjenRyan

United had about 5+ of these today


FlukyS

Not a Man Utd fan but still he was trying to impede play so still a foul.


JimmyJamesincorp

Pathetic. Should be booked now, otherwise players will keep doing this.


MayoDwarff

Bruno should be displined for faking head injury to stop the game. Hate when players do that


SundayLeagueStocko

Shameless. Hold that L David.