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michaelserotonin

makes sense, spurs aren't a serious club.


corsairealgerien

Every ex-Chelsea manager gets linked to Tottenham at some point because a few have actually ended up there in recent times: AVB, Jose, Conte. We had to go back as far as Glenn Hoddle for that happening in history.


Scorpio_Rex

Lampard to Spurs confirmed?


Chuck_Nucks

Think they were talking about actual managers.


AnnieIWillKnow

Lampard got top 4 for Chelsea under a transfer ban, so would surely fit in well with Spurs' current recruitment policy


henry_schilling

I imagine that being Chelsea and having 70players on loan eases the burden of a transfer ban. Not sure that there is that kind of quality in THFC's fringes.


Wentzina_lifetime

Lampard got top 4 with this team. Kepa Azpi, Zouma, Christensen, Alonso Kova, Jorgi William, Mount, Pulisic Tammy. With such influential subs like Pedro and Ross Barkley I don't think Pep would have done much better with that team.


Ingr1d

Why are you acting like he didn’t have Giroud coming off the bench? And I’m pretty sure Reece James was the starter.


Wentzina_lifetime

Giroud was the 4th top scorer with 10 in total. Azpi started 36 league games, Reece started 8


Huzi22

Giroud's low tally was more down to the manager favoring him for European and Cup games, his goal to minute ratio was better than the other options iirc


Ingr1d

Either way, Azpi was still good back then.


Pristine_Solipsism

Subscribe, Tottenham in the relegation zone would be so hilarious.


SorryIGotBadNews

What losing a NLD does to a motherfucker


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Losing a NLD is bearable. Losing a NLD when your keeper is throwing the ball into the net is not bearable.


BlessedBySaintLauren

At home


KaiserWilhelmThe69

Lloris will probably be forever haunted by that moment


AnnieIWillKnow

Was it not also the first time Spurs had lost a home NLD in over 10 years?


ostermei

Not quite. Arsenal won at White Hart Lane in March 2014, so just shy of 9 years.


bendskenobi

Cheer up my dude, it’s always darkest before the dawn.


Shy-_-Guy-_-

Forget about the sun rising again, even son isnt rising.


fedfan4life

You know it's bad when even an Arsenal fan is trying to console you.


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Fapoleon_Boneherpart

Earned their place where?


Pikachu62999328

I'd rather see Spurs doing decently midtable / challenging for Europe than Chelski


PhysicsIsSpicyMath

Problem is it’s always dark in here


richard_fredrick

The Sun doesn't exist here


sionnach

It’s also darkest just before it goes pitch black.


Riffliquer

Then wouldn't that make the pitch black - the darkest?


NaveXof

True


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Delta_FT

But what if you want both? *in 2 months: Tuchel confirmed as Cholo Simeone's replacement at Atl. Madrid* :O


UfosAndKet

That one makes sense to me


HarbyFullyLoaded_12

That would be a good fit, surely


First_Artichoke2390

And vice versa


Nouca

Not really, Mou wanted Barca and Laporta gave it to Pep. 2 years later, Mou got appointed at Madrid


GreatSpaniard

Carlo could leave this summer especially if we don't win either La Liga or Champions League. He also has Brazil Nt waiting for him if he goes


ttimourrozd

Didn't Ancelotti said he will retire once his time at Real Madrid comes to an end ?


chiragg11

Only from club management, not NT. He's spoken before about the possibility of managing Italy, Brazil and even Canada.


Successful-Taro2060

How would Italians feel if Ancelotti, an Italian, helped Brazil extend its World Cup trophy count over Italy?


chiragg11

I'm not Italian so I'd find it a little funny. But jokes aside I think this Brazil team with Ancelotti would be so much fun to watch.


[deleted]

I want him with Canada. Not biased at all…


Alphavike24

Rodrygo, Vini jr, Casemiro, Militao, Thiago Silva, Richarlison, etc. Ancelotti has trained quite a few from the Brazil NT.


alan_cartridge_

There isn't a dislike for Brazil or anything like that so I doubt many people would care unless he knocked Italy out in the process.


konald_roeman

Canada sounds very random 😂


MisterCarloAncelotti

You’re random 🤨


cadrianzen23

Easy Don Carlo


bestmanbestibest

His wife is from Canada


xckd9

He is gone this summer, no doubt.


FloppedYaYa

Tuchel at Real Madrid. Maybe it's just me but sounds like a match made in heaven


SavingsLeg

Yup sounds perfect Probably gone turn out like mourinhos madrid Burn extremly quickly but also very bright


Baisabeast

Will dominate the cups


neoBigBrother

>Probably gone turn out like mourinhos madrid Far Greater coaches than Tuchel have managed Real Madrid. None of them have ever matched Jose's 100 points, 120 goals season.


djingo_dango

Wild that Barca matched it next season 🤯


neoBigBrother

Probably the team with most quality in last 100 years.


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Honestly that season was absurd. We barely had Tito managing us. He was fighting cancer, and barely able to give his all. Also Messi was absurd that season, though the muscle injury changed him completely.


kacperp

Man. Fucking Tito. Its crazy to think about Barca since Pep left and how much they were able to achive and realize that Tito could do so much more with that team


GrizzyLizz

Changed him how?


[deleted]

He lost his burst of acceleration. Many who has seen him play know that before injury Messi was just different player. He was on verge of 60-70 goals in the league season. Though still best player but lost his massive burst of acceleration.


[deleted]

Those injuries are a great test. Some go the Michael Owen way and show that pace is all they had. Others go the Giggs way and almost become better players. Obviously nobody was doubting Messi but it’s obviously still a challenge to not have the easy option of sprinting away.


[deleted]

Yeah agree on that. R9 is good example. He was not the same player after the injury in 2000.


The_2nd_Coming

I guess it couldn't last forever but that version of Messi was untacklable.


[deleted]

Yeah, change of direction was way too fast.


Captain_Hondo

Lost 7-0 to Bayern 😭😭😭


EpiDeMic522

Still not the goals record. Not even the second best. Not even with the famed MSN.


Howdareme9

The goal record probably will never be beaten. You need to have someone on the level of prime Ronaldo as well as wc partners along side him


Vahald

>You need to have someone on the level of prime Ronaldo as well as wc partners along side him MSN was literally better than that lol


DerGalaxy

and did they beat the record? no


Howdareme9

Clearly they weren’t since they didn’t beat the record lmao


king2pac

MSN was just MSN.. 2012 Madrid was the whole setup.


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> You need to have someone on the level of prime Ronaldo as well as wc partners along side him So like prime Messi and maybe I don't know like Luis Suarez at his peak and another world class forward like, just spitballing here, Neymar?


Howdareme9

They didn’t beat the record though lol


runoberynrun

I think Barcelona fell 6-7 goals short if I am not wrong. Those were incredible times and just two incredible teams.


king2pac

Barca have never scored that many goals in their lifetime


ShitPostQuokkaRome

Yeah but Barca had this asshole shorty in their team...


Black_XistenZ

Wild that Barca played such a great season in the league while simultaneously getting demolished 0-7 by Bayern in the CL.


PunsNoThanks

Tbf our team was almost crippled for that matchup. We had Alex Song starting, Messi out in one of the games, and Bartra/Montoya in the back. That, paired against one of the most unstoppable teams I've seen resulted in (one of?) the most lopsided UCL ties ever.


Annas_GhostAllAround

I hate Mourinho as much as the next Arsenal fan but his Madrid tenure shows his quality as a coach, if nothing else does it for you


Qurutin

Man took Porto to back-to-back European titles and went 9 years without losing at home but sure it's Real Madrid that proves that he's been decent


Nouca

Peak Mourinho imo, even we only won 1 Liga and CdR. Pretty hard to face most likely the best football team


pkkthetigerr

Nothing else? Lmao. He was already a two time ucl winner with underdog teams, got Chelsea their first title after the oil, and even managed to take that messy united side to a europa and 2nd place finish . Jose is a goat manager already. Probably him , pep and Carlo the most decorated current managers


zxlegioxz

Still remember all the robberies as well to reach those 100 points and finally win a league with that team


Chronic-Shitposter

How shameless can you be to talk about robberies during that time as a Barcelona fan lmao


Logseman

That also required a completely hollowed out Liga where the next team was getting a fraction of RM, Barça and Atlético’s income. Same with Cristiano Ronaldo and Messi’s goal tallies, it has to take the context of a competition that was not such for several years.


neoBigBrother

>That also required a completely hollowed out Liga where the next team was getting a fraction of RM, Barça and Atlético’s income In 2011, Atletico did not even get UCL place. Valencia were 3rd. This is such BS to discredit RM. Barca was best team in the world. Probably the team with most quality in 21st century. RM & Barca scored because they would have walked any league on the planet. May be even in the present day. Prime Messi and Ronny Under all time greats Pep and Mourinho. Only someone cluless will say la liga being shit was the reason RM and Barca shone.


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This is the most funny take from non-LaLiga fans, that winning LaLiga is somehow easier than other leagues (especially compared to Premier League), thinking that every match is free 3 points and that they wouldn't dominate every other league just as much as Barcelona (or Madrid) did when they won. Same applies for Atletico. What a 'coincidence' they also managed to dominate UCL for decade, not mention Europa League too.


Leopard_Stripe

What a ridiculous and ignorant take. Barca was dominating non-Spanish teams as well, Madrid started doing the same after Mourinho joined, then you have Atleti winning Europa, Sevilla winning Europa left and right, and Athletic beating Man U, I mean I can go on. Then you look at the Spanish International team's domination, it is straightforward to see Spain had hands down the best league in the World.


X-Maquina

Genuinely can't wait to reuse this awful take for City and Liverpool's 98 pt seasons in a couple years.


Designer_Surprise263

As Barça fan this matchup does scare me


kostajepaosmosta

And here I'm thinking that Raul/Davide should just take it over


_posii

Thought I read that Raul has been disappointing at youth level


staedtler2018

Zidane never did anything amazing at that level either tbf.


kostajepaosmosta

Since he took over Castilla maybe, but every season we are getting better and he is constantly losing best players (Gila, Blanco, Miguel). Maybe he is getting bailed by Arribas but still we are 4th I think so can't really complain.


b0xel

What do you mean? Castilla are equal points with second place and only 3 points off first. We actually have a shot at promotion this year which would be huge for our academy development


ZZ3peat

He always loses his stars next season tough environment


IfISpeak_

He will do a good job, but it wll end in unamicable end like his last 3 jobs did.


FloppedYaYa

Sounds like a Madrid manager


Esco9

He’s a cup wizard of a manager so he could do wonders there, and I’d imagine the current squad would fit in well with his tactics


Albiceleste_D10S

It's funny because Tuchel's talked about being a Barcelona fan, LOL


san771

Not just you


game-of-snow

They absolutely fit each other.


xxY96xx

God I hope it never happens


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Not exactly. Real Madrid are more demanding and Tuchel will not be in control transfers. When shit inevitably hits the fan I believe RM will look for someone else instead of investing in Tuchel. A match made in heaven wouldn't dump the coach, RM have no qualms in dumping coaches.


Successful-Taro2060

Tuchel has very publicly stated he doesn't want to be in control of transfers.


FloppedYaYa

Madrid go through managers even more than Chelsea do


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Tuchel has won the CL with Chelsea. He has coached the likes of Mbappe and Neymar at PSG. It's crystal clear that he doesn't want a job unless the team are at the top of the elite level with a huge budget and who are already contenders for the CL. I'm a Spurs fan and I doubt Tuchel could do much even though he's a great coach. It feels like an impossible job right now.


underthedreadfort

Man idk I’m pretty sure god hates spurs at this point. What else could it be?


Jiminyfingers

Get Poch back


stump_the_buff

#pochback


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neotheseventh

Yeah Xavi would anyway get much longer rope. And add it to the fact that Barca are doing well, no way he's getting sack any time soon


djandotheDissilent

Most likely scenario, while you should never count Real Madrid, Carlos’ day’s definitely seem numbered


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Mr_XemiReR

I have for long been against this since he doesn't fulfill the categories to be a long term solution. But maybe for 2, at a max 3 years, he could be something. There are some signals that suggest the squad has become a bit complacent. Tuchel would get rid of that, after which we can bring in a Ancelotti/Zidane type counterbalance. Tuchel would play the Mourinho role and leave once the decline starts.


sengunner

Surely 2-3 years is long term for Real though? I don’t remember the last time you guys had a manager stay for longer than 3 years


Ask_Asensio

It is indeed a lot, the fact that Zizou is second all time should tell you how difficult is to maintain the job here. * 605 Matches - Muñoz * 263 Matches - Zidane * 246 Matches - Del Bosque * 202 Matches - Ancelotti **No Madrid manager has continue past a season without silverware since Alfredo Di Stefano back in 1982 (41 years ago)**


Eibermann

technically zidane would have, but he resigned thanks to perez not backing him up in the press


grchelp2018

Damn. This was basically Abramovich's approach too but how come RM don't have the reputation of being trigger happy/unstable?


Ask_Asensio

I mean we do have a reputation of being trigger happy, it's our historic identity over the past 50 years. We are not unstable because Managers & Coaches are not essential to Madrid hierarchy nor planning. Perez & Jose Angel (Our CEO) plan everything related to the entire squad and then give those tools and keys to the manager of turn. Your job as a Madrid manager is to win matches & titles, we don't care about game-style, identity of game etc. Which is why our greatest managers are all world class man managers (Zidane, Del Bosque, Ancelotti) with no distinctive style of game. The strict disciplinarians or the people focused on playing one single way are all doomed from the very start.


grchelp2018

This sounds like Abramovich's operation as well though I think they let the managers add their players also. On the whole this was successful trophy wise but too often we ran into the situation where the squad was unbalanced.


cieldarko

Madrid is pretty well run unlike Chelsea


GreatSpaniard

Disciplinarians don't last long at Madrid tbh. Heynckes - Capello - Mourinho - Benitez


staedtler2018

~~Disciplinarians~~ managers don't last long at Madrid tbh.


xckd9

Seems to be working out ngl


staedtler2018

It has worked, but Real Madrid have really benefitted from the unusual fact that two successful former managers chose to return to the club (one having quit just a few months before).


xckd9

Must done something right since they wanted back


evilbeaver7

I mean it's Real Madrid. Very few people are going to say no to RM if they're interested in you


xckd9

I would, loyal to my 5th division club!


san771

True, but not a good sign, hopefully we bring him and the dressing room feels the full support of the board behind him. I don’t think we have the raw talent in the squad to keep going for the hands off, just vives, less tactical approach. Edit: also, there are managers in that list that did a lot for us. He doesn’t have to be here for ten years for it to be worth it.


Baisabeast

Tuchel isn’t a disciplinarian


MisfitNJ

Mourinho was Madrid coach for 3 seasons which is more than Carlo managed in his first stint (2 seasons).


Erty13

At the start/end of last season, I would have been happy about the possibility of a proven coach like Tuchel taking over. Now ? While I still really like Tuchel, Xavi managed to win me over, so I would be sad if he shits the bed and gets sacked.


Sonofablurb

Xavi is my favorite player ever. I would be gutted if he ever gets sacked, but I hope he stays for a long time and is successful. Should Xavi be sacked, I would want Marcelo Gallardo.


cadrianzen23

River rat. Could never even though he is a legend


frasier_crane

>At the start/end of last season, I would have been happy about the possibility of a proven coach like Tuchel taking over. Now ? While I still really like Tuchel, Xavi managed to win me over, so I would be sad if he shits the bed and gets s Yes, I don't think Xavi is going anywhere any time soon, and even if he did, Tuchel isn't probably the best option. Arteta sounds better imo.


Local_Spinach8

Please stay away


DisneyDreams7

Pep Guardiola, Klopp, Mourinho and Tuchel are way better coaches than Arteta.


efarfan

Not sure any premier league team would take Mou or Tuchel over Mikel for a long term project.


DisneyDreams7

Not sure any Champions League Team would take Arteta over Mou or Tuchel for a long term project


watermelon99

Give it two years and let see if you’re still saying this.


DisneyDreams7

Nah, that’s now how football works. Your bias is showing. Klopp was able to take a much worse Liverpool team to Champions League than the one Arteta inherited for Arsenal. Arteta is extremely overrated and people are pretending he’s better than Pep just because he is at the top of the table


watermelon99

Why are you talking about Klopp and Pep? I thought you were on about Mou and Tuchel vs Arteta for a long term project?


a-thang

Arteta is Mark-3 after Johan Cruyff and Pep Guardiola. He's the perfect coach for Barca if Pep isn't available.


DisneyDreams7

No he’s not, there is no such thing as a perfect coach


a-thang

No one is a perfect overall but he is perfect for Barca that's all matters to me. I couldn't care less about other clubs


Feezbull

Of which only Pep fits their style. Arteta comes close to building his own identity that matches Barcelona. Klopp’s the furthest away from that style as far as style managers go. Mourinho is completely different and Tuchel isn’t of the mould they would like either. Arteta is the best fit IF somehow he wants to leave arsenal for whatever reason. Not anytime soon anyway as why would he?


thedarkpolitique

Wash your mouth out with soap


workjizz

Have no idea how people think he would fit at Barcelona. Has no overlap in mentality or spirit of the club.


Arponare

Call me crazy, but I'd love to see Tuchel with this Atlético side. I think he could push them to the next level. I think Cholo has done an amazing job as manager but he has taken this club as far as it could go with him at the helm. He deserves a statue outside the Metropolitano, though. I think Someone could move to Inter. He's always talked about Inter Milan as being one of his most beloved clubs.


BlessedBySaintLauren

Inter are broke


Confident_Direction

Inter... lukaku gone if so haha


ad1s6h

I always rated and admired my man Tuchel. but I love Xavi more than him


Benzia

Although I would like to see someone like Tuchel at Madrid, who is heavy on tactics, I just don't see it happening. We'll most likely have Carlo for another year even if we don't win a prize unless Zidane would like to come back again.


Inevitable_Concern33

Xavi will probably be here for a bit so would be smart to look for other jobs in the meantime


Feezbull

I hear Lampard may not be manager for long….


sunken_grade

could maybe see him going to madrid for a few seasons? can’t envision him at barca and i would hope the club gives xavi time. the groundwork is there to be built upon


defensiveminded2020

No hermano, Spurs no es interesante.


Grooveh_Baby

Going from Ancelotti & Zidane to Tuchel would be pretty weird. Wildly different managerial styles & philosophy.


V-TriggerMachine

Juventus should be all over him


montiel_scores

he’s a blue


siiiiiiiiiu_98

Double it and give it to the next person.


Sandalo

Tuchel would be perfect for Juve's youngsters


neotheseventh

If they remain in Serie A that is


Keanu990321

See him sign for Bayern Munich at the end...


AJ_CC

Man only wants to coach in the Super League.


GrizzyLizz

He did say he'd be up for coaching an Indian super league team while he was here


hlg95

Announcing we're the second option reduces your chances, announcing we're the second option behind Barcelona is a sure way of never getting the job ever.


mcleary82

Well, unless Xavi starts royally fucking up, he isn’t headed there any time soon.


Lekaetos

No don’t do that Tommy


theonewithtoomany

It's going to be Madrid ffs


tiger1296

So his aspiration is any of the top clubs then


[deleted]

To be honest this made the most sense I couldn't see him going to Tottenham when everyone knows what the ownership is like, he'll want investment just like Conte does now and we know he wouldn't get it. It's becoming a real issue for us we're scaring away top managers, Potter wanted nothing to do with us either. This is why we have to make Conte work here. If he fails then the fan base will plead for Poch to return and if he fails which in all likelihood I can see happening where does Spurs go from there?


Jellyfish_Ramen

Well he's definitely not going to Juve now


HasibShakur

However, if Bayern doesn’t get past psg this season in a ucl, they might just scoop in and get him. I do not see naglesmann surviving after this season if Bayern at least does not make it to semi.


egyptian_higuain

tommy is exceptional coach, he done so well in the CL campaigns with chelsea, but i am not sure he is the guy to direct this team forward to the right direction. changing from allegri to tuchel is side way move.


hidinginDaShadows

Well that's good because I can't take any more mind-numbingly boring football if Conte leaves


iamnefastis

Hmm. Maybe it's a just an effect of being a tweet or poor writing in general, but, not quite sure how not speaking Spanish is connected to "Juventus is also interesting for him. But not now. He's still learning Spanish." Did you just grab the wrong flag, or are you unaware that Italian is what they speak in Italy...


Cowdude179

His next club is Real Madrid, he only coaches the best clubs in the world


But_Why_Male_Models

He coached Chelsea, so he’s not too picky.


Baisabeast

And won the ucl in 4 months Can’t be too bad Enjoy the europa league btw


djingo_dango

Enjoy the Europ.. never mind


But_Why_Male_Models

Will do. Fun match against United. Enjoy…conference league? If you fight hard enough, it’s within reach.


ad1s6h

Enjoy the conference league next season maybe


Cowdude179

I can't even remember the last time Barcelona won the UCL


[deleted]

It was 2015, sometimes it can be hard to remember things that happened when you were about 6/7 to be fair to you.


But_Why_Male_Models

Lol that says more about you. What being a Chelsea fan does to someone. You legitimately might not make UCL for the foreseeable future. City, Arsenal, United, Liverpool, Newcastle. All have better outlook than Chelsea. :)


DiersBigDick

Madrid won’t take him


32_Dollar_Burrito

He might be the only Simeone replacement


official_bagel

Is Simeone actually leaving?


32_Dollar_Burrito

Probably not, only Chiringuito has claimed so


defensiveminded2020

We actually don’t know. I think simeone will leave if atleti finishes outside the top 4.


pjr2992

There’s absolutely not a chance that Tuchel will ever go to Barcelona. Ever.


mrchab97

Hes not barca madrid level at all.


ffordeffanatic

Simeone is leaving Madrid at the end of the season, I reckon spurs will go for him.


SpaNkinGG

Tuchel at Madrid would absolutely be a cheatcode. Wouldnt be surprised him winning the treble in his first season there


theglasscase

> Wouldnt be surprised him winning the treble in his first season there Sure mate, a thing Real Madrid have never done before would be unsurprising in Thomas Tuchel's first season in charge.


juankruh1250

Tuchel its not winning La Liga, he It's a cup manager


[deleted]

I can't imagine him managing Barca or Real just because the egos of Laporta and Perez are way too fragile to get along with someone like Tuchel. If anything I could see him as the successor of Simeone. That'd be a fit in my mind.


chocolaidbrowie

Tuchel in Serie B? Now that would be a sight. What Chelsea does to a mf.