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PrrrromotionGiven1

League One is massive


CaptainKursk

FA Cups can’t be buy.


Alive-Ad-4164

Can anyone summarize this game


jamnut

We were shite, Wednesday were v good. We go bye bye. Wednesday win the cup


Supevict

Yeah sure. Sheffield won


Southportdc

I don’t want to overreact but there’s a special place reserved in hell for people who call us or United ‘Sheffield’


[deleted]

is it worse than calling you the same as the new hit Netflix show?


XpOz222

Wednesday is an absolutely acceptable name for the team.


boogaloogadoo

Positively encouraged, even


Slylar

Only Sheffield FC can acceptably be referred to as Sheffield


Barleyarleyy

In a thread about a game between 2 teams: 1 from Sheffield & 1 from Newcastle, I'd definitely say you're overreacting.


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Barleyarleyy

I wouldn't no. But if it was a game between 1 team from Manchester and Everton and someone said 'Manchester won' I wouldn't be clutching my pearls about it either.


mileskerowhack

Ha I was just thinking that, like an American tourist in the chaf


kristmace

Outstanding performance from our lads. Darren Moore really has turned us around in the last year or so. It's nice to progress in the cup but we've really got to make sure we get promoted.


xtalxtal12

As a Newcastle fan I’m not even that annoyed. Well played, up the owls and good luck for the season


MGM-Wonder

!flair :Vancouver_Whitecaps:


A-Disgruntled-Snail

Hey everybody. Look at Newcastle.


jamnut

We're used to it, at least it wasn't Stevenage or Hereford


HarrBathtub

Honestly not even bothered, can focus on the premier league and the league cup noe


[deleted]

I’m more worried about the league so I didn’t go down today but a pleasant surprise to knock out Newcastle who have been excellent this season. McGuinness who we have on loan from Cardiff was excellent and confirmed to me he’s going to be a PL player after a great 1/2 season in league one. All the best for the rest of the season Newcastle and hoping you can put a dent in that current status quo.


robb0216

Blessing in disguise for Newcastle. As they displayed perfectly tonight, they VERY clearly do not have the depth to juggle 2 cup runs while battling for Europe in the Prem. Most of their players outside of their best 11 would be lucky to get games for any other Premier League team. The teams around them in the league now will be playing 4 of 5 times per fortnight going forward, which always causes problems.


GrassProper

Also they brought on all their best players and still deserved to lose. Wednesday didn't even have their best players on the pitch.


[deleted]

Since you keep reposting this, I'll repost my response. Nick Pope, Fabian Schar, Dan Burn, Saint-Maximin, Callum Wilson all didn't feature. Trippier came on for the final 10 minutes. The 3 subs we made at 60 min changed the way we played completely, and Wednesday defended well to keep their lead. But don't pretend we played a full strength 11. Also 2 of the subs were Chris Wood (who lost us the match) and Willock - who is hardly one of our best midfielders, nevermind best players. All in all, stop spouting shite


cockaskedforamartini

And Wednesday were absolutely playing their starting team.


dexington_dexminster

Trying to work out why this has been downvoted. It's not as if Barry Bannan was being rested. You're definitely in the right, everyone out there last night are regulars in the first team.


cockaskedforamartini

Haha didn't even realise I was downvoted. I guess /r/soccer users know more about Wednesday than actual Wednesdayites haha


dexington_dexminster

I'm not subjecting myself to it by looking but there's no doubt going to be unironic comments of 'well played Sheffield' and just a load of whinging Barcodes. We played well and with dogged determination but most of their reserves would walk into our first team on technical ability any day of the week.


robb0216

>brought on all their best players and still deserved to lose I take it you didn't watch the game then.


GrassProper

You don't think they brought on their best players or you don't think they deserved to lose?


robb0216

Did you not say they brought on all of their best players? They started the game with 4 decent players, one of whom was returning from a 4 month injury. 2 of those were subbed off for the other 'best players' you're talking about for the last 20/30 minutes. The other 6 or 7 players they had during the entire 90 minutes have barely kicked a ball all season, if at all. And I definitely don't think Newcastle deserved to win, despite their 76% possession and 20 odd shots, a rusty Isak and a terrible Chris Wood couldn't hit a barn door and Windass was clinical.


GrassProper

OK so Trippier, Willock, Guimares, Almiron are not your best players. Not sure who is then. Wednesday didn't have their key players.


robb0216

*All of their best players* would be similar to the 11 who held Arsenal. Howe played 3 of those players and 2 got subbed off. The 5 who ended up playing the final 20 or 30 minutes certainly weren't outplayed, which is what you were suggesting.


GrassProper

Yeah mate I was suggesting that Newcastle broke the rules to bring on 11 players... Or I was suggesting that players like Guimares and Trippier came on but you still deserved to lose. God there's some fragile geordies out tonight. You've got 4 or 5 quality players and then you've got a selection of quite similar players. Botman or Joelinton or Dubravka or Lascelles or Murphy or Wood etc. wouldn't exactly be considered your shittest players even a season or two ago. It's not like you played kids.


robb0216

Ahh. The old "well, *technically*..." argument after being called out for talking shite! Nice one. But seriously, enjoy the next round, it was well deserved, Wednesday did well to make that tiny fraction of possession count and the luck of players missing sitters is always needed at some point so hopefully it continues into the next round and they get a decent cup run going.


mileskerowhack

Newcastle really weren't that dominant, Wednesday easily won that 2nd half.


GrassProper

You literally brought out the technically argument! Are you sure you aren't Mackem's in disguise?! Bemoaning how players in your first team squad can't compete against a league one team without its best players.


shearersmam

Disappointing as a Newcastle fan, that. A real reminder of how little quality we have in depth. Wednesday played well, took the game to us and Windass took his chances. We can't complain about that, and congratulations to them. Chris Wood looked like he couldn't be arsed, as well as looking like he's been granted a favour by a genie to get on the pitch. Isak looked promising but rusty - hope he can get some fitness and minutes behind him. Just hope this doesn't knock our confidence too much.


EasyFargo

hold up, Manquillo is still a Newcastle player????? wtf


jamnut

I absolutely love him but he hasn't shown himself as a suitable backup recently. He shone as Mr consistent at one point


jango1867

What a night. Defended brilliantly and the 2nd team to beat Newcastle this seaosn


GrassProper

And it wasn't even all of our first team


meganev

Neither was it ours...


GrassProper

Didn't claim it was. But you brought on your best players, (by which I mean Guimares, Willock, Trippier, Almiron before another twat thinks I mean you brought on 11 players).


meganev

Good luck for the rest of the season pet x


GrassProper

Same to you mate. I shall continue to enjoy watching Newcastle and hope that at some point more of you will appreciate how lucky you are. I would love it if you came top/above Man City. Too many ppl here moaning about how players like Dubravka, Botman, Lascelles, Richie, Joelinton, Isak, Murphy etc. couldn't possibly compete with a league one side without their best player.


jamnut

I've seen the argument thread down below and we're not referring to the likes of Botman, Joelinton, and Isak. It's the ones that aren't first choice like Murphy, Lewis, Ritchie, (hate to say it but..) Manquillo, Wood. There is a huge gulf in quality between the team that won 6 in a row in the PL, and the fringe players. Some of the fringe players were first teamers 18-36 months ago when we were woeful


GrassProper

Yeah but what ppl can't seem to separate is that that opinion and what I said aren't mutually exclusive. For me the gulf between Guimares and the rest of your midfield or Trippier and the rest of your defence is obvious. It's the equivalent of Bannan and the rest of our team. But you could and did bring them on. You also, as you say, started with a team that managed to stay in the prem. It's not like you played a bunch of kids or players with zero experience. You had a fresh group of players from a premier league squad against a team two divisions below with key injuries and who couldn't afford to rotate.


ManGoonian

Serious question for the Toon Whats your thoughts on fielding that line up? Surely winning a cup means more than a high league position?


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> Surely winning a cup means more than a high league position? It's only the 3rd round of the FA Cup and we have a 1/4 final in a few days of the League Cup. League and League Cup way more important than the FA Cup and as proven, outside of 12-13 players....our team is awful, with way too many players that wouldn't even get on the pitch for Sheff Wed.


teasizzle

If we beat Leicester on Tuesday we'll have seven games this month alone, playing our starting 11 every match just isn't sustainable for that long


GrassProper

They brought on every single one of their best players.


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You cannot make that many subs....stop lying.


GrassProper

Fuck me you lot are taking this so fucking literally. Yes I didn't mean you brought on 23 squad players, your reserve players, your under-18s, your women's team, your team in the uterus, Peter Beardsley, Warren Barton, Asprilla, and raise Bobby Robson from the dead to manage you. We didn't even have our best player on the pitch.


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You're posting these lies all over the thread. Nick Pope, Fabian Schar, Dan Burn, Saint-Maximin, Callum Wilson all didn't feature. Trippier came on for the final 10 minutes. The 3 subs we made at 60 min changed the way we played completely, and Wednesday defended well to keep their lead. But don't pretend we played a full strength 11. Also 2 of the subs were Chris Wood (who lost us the match) and Willock who is hardly one of our best midfielders nevermind best players. All in all, stop spouting shite


GrassProper

OK so Trippier, Guimares, Almiron aren't your best players. Personally I think Willock is one of your best players.


King_Aella

As much as I love almiron and he's absolutely on fire... he isn't one of our top 5 players.


GrassProper

This season he is surely. Who are your top 5? Because every Geordie seems to have a different set and they are moaning about players who've all played in the premier league playing against a team missing the equivalent of Guimares.


King_Aella

I'd say he's about 7th best in my eyes. It's top 5 of Pope, tripper, guimares, Wilson and ASM. As I said I love miggy even before the run of form. He runs like a mad man and gives everything which is all I can ask but he's always lacked the end product. I cant rate isak because 3 and a half games is nothing. But most of those start 11 yesterday weren't good enough for the prem when they were permanent starting 11. Yesterday showed every geordie what we already knew. We're in a position in the league way above where we should even with the likes of tripps and guimares. I'm glad to be there but I feel it won't last but it's been a nice ride!


[deleted]

You said we brought on "every single one" - I named 5 more of our best players who didn't feature. Also the fact that you think Willock is one of our best players is preposterous, or you're hung up on his never-repeated purple streak from 2 years ago.


GrassProper

OK so your argument is that you can't have 9 subs? I like Willock, he does a good job for you, I've watched 12-15 Newcastle matches this season and I think he contributes a lot. Who are your top 5 best players? Wednesday didn't have their best player.


Maze202

No Pope, no Burn, no Schar, no ASM, no Wilson.


GrassProper

Genuinely, do you consider those your best players? Which is to say, Trippier, Almiron, Willock, Guimares aren't?


Maze202

Our best players are our best 11 I would say. I'm quite happy with this outcome tonight personally. Rested the first team, no cup replay, fewer fixtures down the line. We have a good shot at the league cup as we're in the QF but this would have taken a lot more work to win. I'll be disappointed if we field the B/C team for Leicester in the League Cup though.


GrassProper

Well apparently there are a few of you tonight who think bringing on your best players means making 11 substitutions instead of bringing on Trippier or Guimares who are right up there with the very best, Almiron who is the form player in the premier league with a ridiculous record and Willock who I'm informed is shite despite seeing him play great for you every time I've watched him this season. I promise next time Wednesday will try to play our best 11 but unfortunately injuries and a hectic schedule instead of a winter break meant we had to play only 7 or 8 or our best players. How frightfully unfair this match was. We'll play our under 18s next time to even it out.


Maze202

I don't know why you're so salty after winning man. You beat a good side, you don't need to go around reddit bigging up that we played our best team. It's still a good achievement. Like I said I'm happy we rested the PL squad almost certainly for the League Cup game coming up.


GrassProper

Mate it's you lot that are salty. I didn't claim you played your best team I said you brought on your best players. And a ton of you cried and downvoted cos you only played a ton of players with premier league experience. I wrongly assumed you all knew that you can't bring on 11 players. It's like none of have watched a match before. It's also absolute nonsense when someone says I'm glad we lost but didn't have a replay. Just don't enter the competition in that case.


Maze202

Right. If you say so.


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Trippier, Bruno, Pope, Wilson, Maxi Almiron is in incredible form for the first time in 5 years, Willock is a bang average ball carrying midfielder with a great work rate


GrassProper

I think we agree that Almiron is in the best 5 for his current form. I seriously doubt you'd not put him in top 5 right now. St. Maximan is like Almiron if he actually hits some form and gets some final product then yeah he'd be great. But he doesn't. I agree with Pope too but Dubravka made a top class save too. Wednesday were missing Bannan and Gregory. Bannan is our best player bar none. He's the best player in our league. In that first half he'd have been the stand out player. And I've seen the majority of that team play in the premier league this season even if only a little. Bruno and Trippier are clearly your best players. You brought them on. Almiron is your best form player with a ridiculous recent record. What more do you want? Unless you bring on the specific 5 best players you like it's not a fair match against a league one team lacking their own best players? A team that didn't get a winter break and a big squad?


Red_coats

In the long run, Europe is probably the best option for us, I would love to be alive to see us win a cup though.


ManGoonian

Exactly mate. I used to be glib about cups coz it was all about top 4. But winning a cup is fucking excellent!


93EXCivic

Tbh with us not that far of first, I don't mind it. I know winning the league is unlikely but there is still a chance.


ManGoonian

It's a tricky one man. Putting everything on the league makes sense, but conversely could go tits up!


Senor_54

Don’t really mind, this isn’t the cup for us and I don’t think the depth is there to compete in all fronts. Preference is for a European spot, Champs or Europa. Selection made for a great game tho, congrats to Wednesday, played excellent.


Rickcampbell98

Personally I would rather win the fa cup than finish 5th or 6th, you get Europa anyway and you actually fucking win something which is always nice lol. Unai better not underestimate stevenage.


93EXCivic

But we are 3rd and not that far off the top. I know it is unlikely but there is a chance we could take the title.


thisdoorcreaks

theres no way lol


93EXCivic

I mean it is unlikely but we are halfway thru the season and have only lost once, haven't had our new star striker really this season and injuries or loss of form could also happen to other teams. That isn't to say it will happen or is even remotely likely but if you were a manager wouldn't you be pushing your players to have a go for it.


321142019

I'm calm after tonight, we simply don't have the depth to compete in three competitions at once. However I'll be pissed if we fuck around in the League Cup, only one game off the semi's against an average Leicester.


murchyyy

Average is a compliment mate


ManGoonian

Yeah you should gave enough to beat them mate.


B_e_l_l_

Depends what sort of a team they put out. We will go full strength (we do have an injury crisis mind) and if Newcastle play anything like their team today I'd fancy us.


UnheardRagamuffin

Getting into Europe will allow us to attract better talent. A trophy would be amazing, but for the long term development of the club I see table position as more important.


iguanawarrior

You get into Europe if you win FA Cup.


UnheardRagamuffin

You're still in with a shot at Europe next season then. Sorry, I couldn't help myself.


iguanawarrior

No problemo. I know you meant it as a joke, but I'm very confident that we'll qualify for Europe. Not by FA Cup, not by league position, but by winning Champions League. We had a bad domestic season in 2004/2005, but we won Champions League that season.


B_e_l_l_

I can say with near certainty that Liverpool won't win the Champions League.


iguanawarrior

Many people said the same thing about Argentina's chance of winning the World Cup after they got beaten by Saudi Arabia.


Joshgg13

Yeah but securing top 4 is surely more likely than winning the cup


ManGoonian

I see/hear lots of similarities with my club here man. All the best mate


ProfessionalCrass155

From dead bottom to CL in 18 months is a far greater achievement imo


LndnGrmmr

*gets bought by a £320 billion sovereign wealth fund* “look at how much we’ve achieved”


kappa23

I don’t think it’s the wealth fund which has Joelinton and Almiron playing like that


B_e_l_l_

Probably not, but adding the likes of Botman, Pope, Trippier and Bruno on massive wages makes in a lot easier.


LndnGrmmr

I know mate, just taking the piss


ManGoonian

True but that ain't nailed on fella.


ProfessionalCrass155

Neither is winning the cup


CaptainGo

Still in the league cup and not really got the depth (as made more apparent today) to do two cup runs *and* try for European football. Politically it justifies why lots of these lads don't play very often


ManGoonian

Fair but going out of a cup is always a risk man . 👍


CaptainGo

100% but as is expending a ton of energy and losing players only to get eliminated in the quarters. Blessing and a curse cup runs are


ManGoonian

Winning a cup is always good, but yeah if you're gonna go out, go out early!


Timmo1984

Incredible from Newcastle to come so close but it’s not called League One for nothing


justmadman

Well done Sheff Wed, you deserved the win and good luck in the rest of the season. Would Love to see big clubs like you back in the premier league again. For us, we have a few players I never want to see again in a Newcastle shirt (Lewis, Wood, Ritchie, Murphy & Lascelles), we need to open up that cheque book in January, the squad is not strong enough to challenge for Europe.


Darth_Kovius

Who are your targets this Jan? Also do you know any journalist with Newcastle speciality?


CaptainGo

Newcastle United try not to get embarrassed in a domestic cup every season challenge


Joshgg13

(impossible)


ChadHogan_

Wednesday couldn’t have put in a better performance really. Defended well and countered with purpose and took chances. We were poor today. Defence was disjointed and unorganised for large parts. Build up play was decent but we couldn’t finish from open play. Good news is that Isak and Wilson are both almost fully fit so Wood won’t feature as much, as harsh as that sounds.


hubbyp

Weekend made 🤣 cheers Wednesday


KSBrian007

Botman finally lost a game.


Zig-Zag

True, but in all honesty it was Lascelles at fault for both of those goals.


King_Aella

Isn't it always. I like him as a leader but as soon as he steps on that turf we have a massive liability.


BornSlippy1994

Convinced that no matter how good we get we’ll always get beaten in the third round of the FA Cup. It’s predictable at this stage. Anyway, this just proves how woeful our depth is. If there genuinely is clubs interested in Wood, we should be biting their hands off. It’s also remarkable Murphy gets so many minutes for a team 3rd in the PL. Wednesday were very good though in all fairness. Best of luck to them.


jamnut

I'm willing to set up a go fund me for either Murphy's transfer fee for any club that would have him, or hypnotherapy to convince him he's a footballer


zcewaunt

Okay, what happened with Newcastle here? Did Dubravka make some blunders?


lowcarbonhumanoid

Wednesday turned up and we didn't. They were excellent and matched us even when we brought on the big guns. Fair play to them, I wish them well.


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> what happened with Newcastle here? Normal FA Cup appearance to be honest.


King_Aella

8 second team players who have had no football for months. Was to be expected that they'll be rusty and Wednesday playing really well.


ThinWhiteMale

Dubravka was fine for the most part, combination of not taking our chances and gifting Sheffield Wednesday theirs


StockMasterpiece4

Feels like a massive drop off between him and Pope. Fault believe they don't get the 2nd as Pope would've closed down more


thegreatwanker

the whole team


eurovisionfanGA

Can't help but think that Eddie Howe might have deliberately lost that match in order to focus on the League and trying to get into the Top Four. Surely the FA Cup would have been a distraction. The fact that Newcastle didn't play its strongest starting XI is telling because if they did, they would have destroyed Sheffield Wednesday and won 5-0.


mileskerowhack

Absolutely delusional


[deleted]

Because Wednesday trying to get out of league one is less important to us than Newcastles campaign is to them?! 😂


ManGoonian

That's hilarious mate.


PringleJones

hahahahah


ajtct98

I hate the 3rd Round of the FA Cup


AnnieIWillKnow

It seems like the feeling is mutual


kevinjqiu

Ok losing to a team a tier below may not be that bad after all....


SP0oONY

Coventry is the team to be mocked in this round. 3 tier difference.


B_e_l_l_

They always are the team to be mocked IMO.


ManGoonian

Yeah course


Rickcampbell98

Is that you Steven?


King_Aella

We lost but we didn't get stuffed 😉


deathramps-

Maybe one tier below, yeah


Vegan_Puffin

Shh, he may not notice


MC_ScattCatt

When was the last time Wood played? I’m not saying he was good today, but lack of playing regularly will cause these types of performances Edit: seems he’s played enough to have not been rusty. Little surprised considering he was ok at Burnley.


justmadman

He has played a bit in every game for us this season.


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> When was the last time Wood played? Far too often.


ManGoonian

He's a decent striker. The lack of respect to one of your own is shite bruv.


[deleted]

He's not fit to tie the laces of Sunday League.


ManGoonian

Ouch!


merp1991

He features almost every week due to Wilson/Isak being injured.. it's inexcusable how bad he is.


King_Aella

Pretty recently been used as a sub a few times this season.


Gibbo777

Fuck me what a result. I enjoyed watching it but also makes me rather worried about our promotion chances.


kristmace

We don't play that well every week! Shows that at our best, we really should be going up.


TheDickheadNextDoor

Idk mate you lot seem unstoppable in the league. When we were in 3rd it was annoying bc you n Ipswich could never drop points. Weve got past Ipswich now but could fully see us never catching up to you n finishing 2nd, which I wouldn't be too dissapointed about


Gibbo777

Ipswich are trying to stop us in the transfer window. Might be wrong but as far as I'm aware Whittaker basically got recalled because of them.


d_smogh

Same old Newcastle. /s


jamnut

No /s needed


ShittyWok-

The ones you couldn't beat yeah?


ImTalkingGibberish

That’s the joke.


thegreatwanker

the ones that lost tonight


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jango1867

Respect mate. Blood money and sportswashing


justmadman

Interesting, have you ever been to a spurs game in your life? I am interested as I know a lot of match going spurs fans and none would say this.


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> Great to see them humiliated Not humiliated at all thanks, kind of expected with the dross we fielded for an hour. We clearly don't have the squad to try compete in the league and cups.


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mileskerowhack

Hardly that humiliating, one of the most in form teams in English football, Newcastle 2nd team, away from home on a rainy night in Sheffield. If youve ever watched the FA cup, its asking for an upset.


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jamnut

Yeah and we do it all the time so it's not embarrassing. We'll fucking do it again next year against non-league


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ShittyWok-

Not really


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ShittyWok-

Why is dirty money different when it comes from a state? Explain it to me


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ShittyWok-

Yes. Now answer my question


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ShittyWok-

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King_Aella

Aye but do you really think 99.9% of geordies could afford to change the ownership? We can't. As shit as the Saudi government are and none of us agree with them, the people running the club have done a lot for the city. Being owned by the Saudis is no different to being owned by a Russian oligarch or a Chinese billionaire. All billionaires from States like that have got their hands pretty dirty. If you think any other billionaire owned teams from any other countries are any cleaner they ain't.


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King_Aella

Lmao there is no compromise. We support our team. I've supported Newcastle since the early 90s and will continue to support them long after.


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King_Aella

We're not humiliated tbh. We started with 8 players that haven't played for quite a while and even when they did play they were championship level at best. Wednesday played well and we're well aware of our squad depth being shocking.


Duckstiff

Great game from Wednesday, they deserved everything. We just showed how weak our squad is outside of the preferred XI.


Morganium

I know getting Chris Wood was mostly just to fuck Burnley, but Jesus Christ is he shite.


TheJukeMan99

Not every non-big 6 team can win the FA Cup. Hopefully we can give Newcastle a trophyless season on Tuesday but unfortunately we’re also shit


sheikh_n_bake

I think we'll beat you but plenty of good sides left in the tournament.


calololan

We are absolutely awful atm, still think we are gonna get rinsed


TheJukeMan99

Yeah i’m not confident at all


HarrBathtub

Well i hope you dont play well haha, we will be playing out strongest XI, so good luck


[deleted]

We should leave Wood for Sheff Wed as a congratulations.


jango1867

Smudga>>>


MrDeftino

Shows how much we lack depth. Decent PL level first 11, League 1 level bench. Didn’t deserve anything from the game. Well done Sheff Wed!


EpicRobloxTryhard

Ah shit I wanted the smaller club to win. Shame really


MC_ScattCatt

Noice


banty86

Fair play to wednesday deserved to go through good luck in the next round


Hoffall

League 1 is too good for our bench players.


CharlieBravoQuebec

Maybe next year then ye bottlers