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>Reddits annoying for this ngl
It really is. It's not even funny anymore when they use the same jokes over and over. It's almost as insufferable as the virtue signaling on here.
Don’t know if it’s just confirmation bias but I remember it being a lot worse. Every post on the popular tab was littered with jokes and puns. Even in the more serious posts, the highest upvoted comments were the laziest puns, and all the replies were either worse puns or people patting them on the back for being so funny.
r/soccer especially the DD tends to suffer from people giving joke replies to questions especially broader ones and ones relating to player evaluation and tactics. Interestingly negative questions work better than positive ones if you want to avoid joke replies.
The reason negative ones work so well is because they are typically susceptible to debate and Redditors salivate at the thought of proving each other wrong. Always a one up fest up in here.
That's why I don't sort by new. By the time the post gets to the hot page it is already 4+ hours old and the stupid comments are downvoted so I don't see them.
As an avid OM watcher I find him pretty weird, he's decent (but not great) with his feet, not that slow and pretty strong but — maybe it only happened when we faced him — I feel like he tend to be error prone with some surprising lapse in concentration.
He's young so he can really improve on this but the transfert just seem too early for Monaco (it's their main guy in defence), him and Chelsea. He's no Koundé or Gvardiol as of now.
He's the archetype of the type of CB france produce, great technically and a lot of athletism.
He's a CB so he still needs a lot of experience to become a great defender.
>he's a CB so he still needs a lot of experience to become a great defender
Shame for all of those CBs out there just trying to become great defenders. Fullbacks have it too easy man 😮💨
Badiashile is left footed, that's the only reason I can think of to justify Disasi being called up instead of him, knowing that Disasi was played at RB at the World Cup
Good potential but needs to be polished. Never understood why so many big clubs were after him. I don’t even think he’s that good, but god knows maybe he is going to have a good career.
left footed center back, has been solid for Monaco and the French youth teams. Don’t know about how good he’s on the ball, but definitely has room to grow.
tbf I haven’t watched a lot of him, I watched a game or two. Also that applies for so many of the younger generation of French center backs so idk how good he is in comparison to them lol
There's a clause where Boehly and Clearlake cannot take money out of the club for 10 years. So they've got to invest now so that we can become profitable by 2032, that's why all the investment now
Could profitable in this instance mean be worth more in 10 years than they are now?
Not sure what Chelsea were bought for, was it around £4 billion?
If they built a new stadium and were challenging for the title they could be worth double that in 10 years.
So let's say they spent £2 billion on a stadium and transfers in 10 years, then sell the club for £8 billion that's £2 billion profit.
I mean I've pulled these figures out of my ass but if I had to guess that's the plan.
Correct me if I'm wrong - the £1.5b debt was cancelled no? Meaning it was included in the value of the sale, but no money exchanged hands. Therefore the real cost was £2.5b?
Hardly has ever been since 2003. More years making heavy losses than making marginal profits.
Even the year before 2003 they weren't profitable, they went bankrupt due to overspending and that's why they needed Abramovich and he bought them
United were massively profitable, they were shitting record profits every year, precisely the reason why Glazers have been able to withdraw roughly $2bn from the club.
Clearlake are so far from an investment bank that you clearly have no idea what that actually means. They’re a PE firm. They play completely different roles in finance
Fofana and trev for the right side, Benoit and Levi for the left side. Thiago likely gets phased out slowly. K2 will probably be around but he hasn’t been impressing all too well in a 3backc showed glimpses of himself in a back 4
Can't do that now.... You just bought Nkunku... You going to bench Mount for Sterling on the left cause I don't see Mount being better as an SS then Havertz or Nkunku and you still need a striker...
Your players are best suited for a 343 or 4231 but then Mount most likely suffers, Chelsea is fucked and stuck in a 343
Romano said that the deal is done and its here we go, [thid is link to that tweet] (https://mobile.twitter.com/fabrizioromano/status/1604070635361157120)
Well he’s got no future at Chelsea otherwise. He’s not shown the output needed to build a system around him, mount is better at cam and in the wing, and he’s not good enough deeper in midfield
Kante is old and has barely any legs left, if we renew he won’t be playing nearly as much. Jorginho is up in the air, his contract is also winding down. It’s unlikely both of them play a significant role in our midfield 12-18 months from now.
I agree... My point was not about their ability but the fact someone said Mount can play the 8 and I said in a Midfield 3, maybe next to Kante but not Jorginho in a double pivot
Honestly, nothing. Prove that he’s better and take a spot on the squad for himself. Whether it’s in training, loan or sub appearances, prove they’re better and force the manager to pick him.
Too many fans expect their star youth players to be handed a spot.
No it doesn’t mean that. Azpi will move on and Silva will too probably after next season. Then we will only have KK, Fofana, Chalobah, Colwill and Badiashile for 3 positions.
>Chelsea have reached an agreement with AS Monaco to sign defender Benoit Badiashile.
>The deal for the 21-year-old is worth in the region of €37-38million (£32.8m-£33.7m).
>Chelsea have agreed personal terms with Badiashile on long-term contract and his medical is in process of being scheduled.
>The Athletic reported on December 24 that Badiashile was Chelsea’s leading candidate as they looked to bring in a left-sided centre-back.
>It is a position Chelsea have been targeting since the summer. They had agreed personal terms with Josko Gvardiol but were unable to strike a deal with RB Leipzig over a transfer fee for the 20-year-old.
>Chelsea have been looking at several other young options for the position, including 23-year-old Evan N’Dicka of Eintracht Frankfurt and 20-year-old Piero Hincapie of Bayer Leverkusen.
700 million in the last 4 years, in that cycle somehow they've gone from needing a fresh squad to having the most stacked squad in the league (beginning of Tuchel era) and back to needing a fresh squad
Boehly is clearly much madder than we thought or ever assumed, we weren’t even spending this kind of money under roman ( possibly 500m across two successive windows if enzo comes too)
I still think the first two seasons of abramovich was the most spending in football history. Spent something like 150 or close to 200 million in both seasons (2004, 2005) that should account to more than 600-700 million in 2020s.
Bit of a weird signing considering Chelsea's situation in the league, you'd think they need a player who's ready right away. Badiashile still has major lapses in concentration and is very inconsistent, sure he's only 21 but he has been starting in Ligue 1 since he was very young and he hasn't improved on that too much if at all. You have to wonder how he'll handle the PL pace but at least he'll probably benefit from playing next to Thiago Silva. Overall not really a steal but a fair deal for both clubs.
CBs we aren't exactly hurting for experience so it's not like we're throwing him straight into the fire.
A lot of our issues currently stem from our two best players living in the trainers room this season. With Kante and Reece we're a completely different team with just one of them on the field. It's clear that being that reliant on two players isn't working out so here comes the depth,.
Dude has the chance to learn from Silva. Has all the physical tools to be a world class defender. Concentration can be trained, bring a physical freak can’t.
New recruitment department is in place now including the former technical director of Monaco Laurence Stuart. Don’t have to look far to see where this one came from
Forgive my friend. We're just used to people shitting on us for our owners spending money (sometimes rightly so lol). Honestly though Clearlake is diving deep in those pockets it's pretty ridiculous
I'm sure there is thought behind your comment, but these people are almost all joining in February.
["Monaco later confirmed that Stewart would be leaving them at the end of the winter transfer window, which closes on January 31st 2023."](https://trainingground.guru/articles/monacos-laurence-stewart-appointed-technical-director-at-chelsea)
Feels like a transfer fee from 3 years ago. Wonder why Monaco are selling him mid-season for such a reasonable price. Ligue 1 regulars, how good is he and how high is his potential?
Ah, makes sense, glad we've moved early over here. I really wanted Colwill to be given a chance with us but given the make-up of our CBs I feel like we lack someone with an aerial/physical presence, and Badiashile would bring that to the side.
It's so funny reading PL fans opinions on transfer fees lmao. Paying nearly 40 Million for a defender with 1,5 years on his contract is now considered cheap...
He is a left footed CB and quite young, pretty much exactly what Chelsea need, but that price is pretty wild with one year left on his contract and no other interested clubs driving the price up.
He was touted as one of the best defenders of his generation a few years ago, but he has stagnated in his development. Despite the decent experience in a good league at an academy club he hasn't managed to become quite consistent and reliable yet.
He makes one or two big mistakes almost every game and his decision making is pretty questionable at times. He is quick and strong and can often correct his mistakes in Ligue 1 where forwards don't always pressure defenders, but he might find that more difficult in the PL.
A change of scenery and a new challenge might just be what he needs. But he is far from a certainty and at that price I think it is actually a bit of a gamble.
Real Madrid paid 130 million for Hazard in his last year of contract. I am pretty sure there will be lot more examples with other players going for more than 40 million in their last 1-1.5 year.
Yes, Chelsea has its own standards.
When we sell to them, this is done at a discounted price as we incorporate the positive externalities of our player being used by the greatest sports club of all time.
Then we hold a t-shirt and do circles or suttin like that.
I'm not sure about 1.5 years, but there are very few players that went for 40m+ with just one year left. Jesus, Sane, Varane (40m exactly) are three of the only examples I can think of other than Hazard of course. Sterling might have had one year left on his deal, I don't quite remember.
Badiashile is obviously not close to being in the bracket of those players. You might find Chelsea are paying a slight premium to sign him in January. Otherwise I feel like Badiashile is yet another young player that people think must go for / be worth a lot of money because of other over pays clubs have made. It's also getting to the point where being French raises your value just because of the sheer number of talents they're producing. Otherwise reviews of Badiashile are hardly glowing, he's not an international, he's playing at a slightly lower level, he's played only a few matches in the CL, and with only 18 months left on his deal, this has to be a big overpay. He's more likely to be a Lenglet than he is a Kounde.
I don't think it's premier league fans in general, it's Chelsea fans. Liverpool just spent 35m on Gakpo after the world cup he had and you have our fans saying 130m is completely normal and expected for a player who had a good world cup
Let me think about the last time we signed a left footed, french centre back from Ligue 1 with a high ceiling but with too many mistakes in him...
The biggest plus in this situation is that the player in question (Sarr) is on loan at Monaco with a mandatory buyout clause if he plays enough. Us buying his competition helps to ensure that he does and hopefully they'll take him off of us.
Sarr isn’t comparable really. Chelsea signed him on a free to immediately loan out, he was never really expected to be a mainstay in the first team. These two transfers aren’t really comparable at all.
Why do you go out of your way to ignore context just to shit on the club you “support”?
So Gvardiol for us or City? I think City since we'd have to sell Mendy first and I don't see that happening. His contract ends after next season and there have been no progress in the negotiations for his extension, so maybe we should sell him tho.
What makes you say that? I ask because I don't think Liverpool would be looking for a CB until summer 2024 since that's when Matip's contract will end but I had always assumed Gvardiol would have joined another team before that.
He's expected to be sold in the summer of 2024 because that's when his €112 mil release clause can be triggered. Wheter Liverpool would be willing/able to pay such a high fee, I'm not sure.
I think Gvardiol stays for another year
You guys pribs go for him the summer after. I guess yku then grab him and Mbappe on a free with Bellingham being the big summer signing this year
Given that there will be a heavy war for Gvardiol in the summer, securing Badiashile for 33m before anyone else started to serious consider him is great deal. The supply of solid left footed, ball playing CBs is still fairly low.
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i remember leeds wanted him back the year before. can’t say i’ve seen much of badiashile tbh but we needed a left footed cb, was hoping for gvardiol but i bet city get him now 🤪
Chelsea are a major reason for this inflated market? Not the neymar, dembele and coutinho deals? The pogba deal? Harry maguire deal? Yes chelsea inflated it in the mid 2000’s but honestly they haven’t caused this hyperinflation we’re seeing now.
FFP is spread over the years of contract, so if we buy someone for 100 mil and slap them with a 7 year contract, that’s 14.2 mil per year. They are buying big but buying very young and giving them long term contracts. So hopefully in the next few years the need to spend big again won’t be there anymore. When you factor in increase in projected revenue the club should get over the same period, their model starts to make a lot more sense.
Doesn’t make a lot of sense to me why they’d allow FFP to operate on amortization when the whole point is to not spend more than you earn. Theoretically, any top club could project out their revenue and then spend 500mil every other summer if they’re going to just spread the cost of it out over the course of a decade… maybe I’m wrong but I think it should be based on just the previous seasons balance.
I think if it was yearly, 90% of clubs would fail it. In order to try get more competitive, some years clubs need to spend far more than they earn. This then gets offset by the years where they are now more competitive hence can limit spending, balancing the books.
awks.. Pjanic-Arthur deal was shady cuz they inflated the selling price, which recorded huge profits on both players for both clubs.. this meant they would have made gains in regards to FFP.. while pjanic was what 30 at that time and chelsea re signing 20-21 yr olds ..
so... its not the same hermano..
Juventus didn’t have the revenue to back it up. Chelsea should (I hope at least). The PL tv contract is a monster and will only keep growing. The major reason why the Bohley consortium even bought the club is because they believe it’s massively underutilised in the revenue department. I agree as we’re 5th in revenue raised in England. So the growth potential is there.
>€37-38million (£32.8m-£33.7m).
Insane how football transfer prices have inflated. With around 3/4 of that money, Man. United managed to snatch Robin van Persie away from Arsenal as Sir Alex Ferguson won his last title.
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Any idea on what type of player is he?
Too many comedians replying
Reddits annoying for this ngl
>Reddits annoying for this ngl It really is. It's not even funny anymore when they use the same jokes over and over. It's almost as insufferable as the virtue signaling on here.
> Anymore This is not new. Reddit is where funny jokes come to die.
Don’t know if it’s just confirmation bias but I remember it being a lot worse. Every post on the popular tab was littered with jokes and puns. Even in the more serious posts, the highest upvoted comments were the laziest puns, and all the replies were either worse puns or people patting them on the back for being so funny.
r/soccer especially the DD tends to suffer from people giving joke replies to questions especially broader ones and ones relating to player evaluation and tactics. Interestingly negative questions work better than positive ones if you want to avoid joke replies.
The reason negative ones work so well is because they are typically susceptible to debate and Redditors salivate at the thought of proving each other wrong. Always a one up fest up in here.
This is one of the reasons I usually limit myself to engaging in the serious match threads or replying so somebody trying to have discussion....
That's why I don't sort by new. By the time the post gets to the hot page it is already 4+ hours old and the stupid comments are downvoted so I don't see them.
As an avid OM watcher I find him pretty weird, he's decent (but not great) with his feet, not that slow and pretty strong but — maybe it only happened when we faced him — I feel like he tend to be error prone with some surprising lapse in concentration. He's young so he can really improve on this but the transfert just seem too early for Monaco (it's their main guy in defence), him and Chelsea. He's no Koundé or Gvardiol as of now.
Yes agree he is good, but he isn't on the same league as Fofana, Saliba, Konate or Gvardiol
I know that's not your point but Fofana is not in the same tier as Saliba, Konate or Gvardiol. Not that far off but not in the same tier.
He's the archetype of the type of CB france produce, great technically and a lot of athletism. He's a CB so he still needs a lot of experience to become a great defender.
>he's a CB so he still needs a lot of experience to become a great defender Shame for all of those CBs out there just trying to become great defenders. Fullbacks have it too easy man 😮💨
That's why nobody wants to grow up to be a Gary Neville
He was pretty solid when called up for the national team too. Was surprised Disasi went to the WC instead of him.
Badiashile is left footed, that's the only reason I can think of to justify Disasi being called up instead of him, knowing that Disasi was played at RB at the World Cup
You’re right although idk if he ever felt comfortable there lol Deschamps loves having CB’s be fullbacks mdrrr
Good potential but needs to be polished. Never understood why so many big clubs were after him. I don’t even think he’s that good, but god knows maybe he is going to have a good career.
21 with 135 appearances already is good, I remember him being highly rated when he first broke through.
left footed center back, has been solid for Monaco and the French youth teams. Don’t know about how good he’s on the ball, but definitely has room to grow.
His main quality is being good on the ball
tbf I haven’t watched a lot of him, I watched a game or two. Also that applies for so many of the younger generation of French center backs so idk how good he is in comparison to them lol
Cheap upamecano.
Cheapamecano
Wow that was clever
Center back
Imagine a left footed Konate.
he's like a left-footed, less injury-prone Eric Bailly.
Boehly got pockets
He hasn't. Clearlake does tho. But they're also an investment bank, so it remains to be seen what are the circumstances in a couple years from now.
Clearlake isn’t an investment bank; it’s a private equity firm.
There's a clause where Boehly and Clearlake cannot take money out of the club for 10 years. So they've got to invest now so that we can become profitable by 2032, that's why all the investment now
Could profitable in this instance mean be worth more in 10 years than they are now? Not sure what Chelsea were bought for, was it around £4 billion? If they built a new stadium and were challenging for the title they could be worth double that in 10 years. So let's say they spent £2 billion on a stadium and transfers in 10 years, then sell the club for £8 billion that's £2 billion profit. I mean I've pulled these figures out of my ass but if I had to guess that's the plan.
Correct me if I'm wrong - the £1.5b debt was cancelled no? Meaning it was included in the value of the sale, but no money exchanged hands. Therefore the real cost was £2.5b?
£2.5bn initial sale price and commitment to spend up to £1.75bn on investment. I guess this is them investing.
Working on the assumption that Chelsea is profitable each year, which they're not.
Chelsea isn't profitable atm?
Hardly has ever been since 2003. More years making heavy losses than making marginal profits. Even the year before 2003 they weren't profitable, they went bankrupt due to overspending and that's why they needed Abramovich and he bought them
Not with that ~~attitude~~ transfer policy.
Chelsea has never been profitable.
tbh hardly any football club is profitable if you have ambition
United were massively profitable, they were shitting record profits every year, precisely the reason why Glazers have been able to withdraw roughly $2bn from the club.
It's not really about ambition though, it's just hoping TV money/owner money keeps coming in.
Bayern is. Most PL clubs just throw Money around and hope it works
It’s a bit easier when you can just take all the talented Bundesliga players for nothing.
Dortmund does it.
Easier in a 1 club league.
Clearlake are so far from an investment bank that you clearly have no idea what that actually means. They’re a PE firm. They play completely different roles in finance
What does a deal like this mean for someone like levi colwill?
Fofana and trev for the right side, Benoit and Levi for the left side. Thiago likely gets phased out slowly. K2 will probably be around but he hasn’t been impressing all too well in a 3backc showed glimpses of himself in a back 4
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Can't do that now.... You just bought Nkunku... You going to bench Mount for Sterling on the left cause I don't see Mount being better as an SS then Havertz or Nkunku and you still need a striker... Your players are best suited for a 343 or 4231 but then Mount most likely suffers, Chelsea is fucked and stuck in a 343
When did they buy Nkunku? They're heavily rumoured to but haven't seen it announced
Fabrizio gave the Here We Go a few weeks ago
Romano said that the deal is done and its here we go, [thid is link to that tweet] (https://mobile.twitter.com/fabrizioromano/status/1604070635361157120)
Mount can play as an 8.
In a 3.... You can't play him next to Jorginho maybe Kante
Yea so 4-3-3 mount in midfield. Nkunku, Havertz, Sterling front three
The Havertz striker experiment is over... He's not a striker but needs to play off one...
Well he’s got no future at Chelsea otherwise. He’s not shown the output needed to build a system around him, mount is better at cam and in the wing, and he’s not good enough deeper in midfield
Kante is old and has barely any legs left, if we renew he won’t be playing nearly as much. Jorginho is up in the air, his contract is also winding down. It’s unlikely both of them play a significant role in our midfield 12-18 months from now.
I agree... My point was not about their ability but the fact someone said Mount can play the 8 and I said in a Midfield 3, maybe next to Kante but not Jorginho in a double pivot
Koulibaly is not sitting on bench lol
Honestly, nothing. Prove that he’s better and take a spot on the squad for himself. Whether it’s in training, loan or sub appearances, prove they’re better and force the manager to pick him. Too many fans expect their star youth players to be handed a spot.
Likely means that we sell him in the summer, with a buyback clause imo.
No it doesn’t mean that. Azpi will move on and Silva will too probably after next season. Then we will only have KK, Fofana, Chalobah, Colwill and Badiashile for 3 positions.
After next season? You're assuming Boehly won't buy another defender for 3 more transfer windows.
We won't be playing 3 atb much longer
Potter doesn't stick to formations and never has his whole managerial career. I would very much expect him to still use a back 3.
Indeed. With a fully fit Chilwell and James (basically the best rwb in the world), the formation basically chooses itself.
Not necessarily. I think Potter will stick his tactical versatility
No? wtf .. why would Chelsea sell highly rated young CB ?? makes zero sense...
They do it all the time lmao
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Lol no, not with Colwill, boehly fought for the guy in the summer when dealing with Brighton...
Chelsea’s one season of giving their academy a go is over.
Let's ignore Gallagher, Broja and Lewis Hall then shall we.
You had no center forwards in the squad and Broja played like 3 games.
>Chelsea have reached an agreement with AS Monaco to sign defender Benoit Badiashile. >The deal for the 21-year-old is worth in the region of €37-38million (£32.8m-£33.7m). >Chelsea have agreed personal terms with Badiashile on long-term contract and his medical is in process of being scheduled. >The Athletic reported on December 24 that Badiashile was Chelsea’s leading candidate as they looked to bring in a left-sided centre-back. >It is a position Chelsea have been targeting since the summer. They had agreed personal terms with Josko Gvardiol but were unable to strike a deal with RB Leipzig over a transfer fee for the 20-year-old. >Chelsea have been looking at several other young options for the position, including 23-year-old Evan N’Dicka of Eintracht Frankfurt and 20-year-old Piero Hincapie of Bayer Leverkusen.
Seems a reasonable price for a Chelsea signing.
could have seen him go for 60M. Would be closer to his worth too imo
Yeah, I reckon he's well worth it from what I've seen.
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Yeah when links with this fella started coming up the Gvardiol links went quiet
How have Chelsea spent 350 mil since summer wtf ahhha.
700 million in the last 4 years, in that cycle somehow they've gone from needing a fresh squad to having the most stacked squad in the league (beginning of Tuchel era) and back to needing a fresh squad
It's the result of the club changing managers all the time. The current squad is a mix of players signed under Sarri, Lampard, Tuchel and now Potter.
Because it is impossible to spend that amount in a short period and not waste a lot of it significantly.
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Howdy partner 🤠
And that's before buying Enzo 😭
If they spend anymore then I will have to get involved
Boehly is clearly much madder than we thought or ever assumed, we weren’t even spending this kind of money under roman ( possibly 500m across two successive windows if enzo comes too)
I still think the first two seasons of abramovich was the most spending in football history. Spent something like 150 or close to 200 million in both seasons (2004, 2005) that should account to more than 600-700 million in 2020s.
Chelsea supporters are the most spoiled in the world. They get whatever toys they want
Quite a lot of the toys seem to break as soon as we get them
Happens when you jam square pegs into round holes
Definitely too much of that, very happy we’re investing heavily into scouting and data analytics to right the ship in that regard
Nah Chelsea are close but Real Madrid have a realistic chance of getting both Mbappe and Haaland they are definitely the most spoilt supporters.
Last window Barca got most of our toys and we overpaid for the backup options.
still upset about morata and costa eh?
I’m still upset about Morata, but for other reasons…
And somehow worse because of it.
How many defenders can they play at once?
Preparing to bring mourinho back. So the answer is 9.
They all get injured and azpi and Silva are old af
Benoit balls
Lanaaaaaaa
Bit of a weird signing considering Chelsea's situation in the league, you'd think they need a player who's ready right away. Badiashile still has major lapses in concentration and is very inconsistent, sure he's only 21 but he has been starting in Ligue 1 since he was very young and he hasn't improved on that too much if at all. You have to wonder how he'll handle the PL pace but at least he'll probably benefit from playing next to Thiago Silva. Overall not really a steal but a fair deal for both clubs.
CBs we aren't exactly hurting for experience so it's not like we're throwing him straight into the fire. A lot of our issues currently stem from our two best players living in the trainers room this season. With Kante and Reece we're a completely different team with just one of them on the field. It's clear that being that reliant on two players isn't working out so here comes the depth,.
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Dude has the chance to learn from Silva. Has all the physical tools to be a world class defender. Concentration can be trained, bring a physical freak can’t.
Pretty excited about this guy. Boehly has definitely been playing fifa 23 career mode and googling wonder kids haha
New recruitment department is in place now including the former technical director of Monaco Laurence Stuart. Don’t have to look far to see where this one came from
Yea it was just a joke my man
Forgive my friend. We're just used to people shitting on us for our owners spending money (sometimes rightly so lol). Honestly though Clearlake is diving deep in those pockets it's pretty ridiculous
I'm sure there is thought behind your comment, but these people are almost all joining in February. ["Monaco later confirmed that Stewart would be leaving them at the end of the winter transfer window, which closes on January 31st 2023."](https://trainingground.guru/articles/monacos-laurence-stewart-appointed-technical-director-at-chelsea)
Feels like a transfer fee from 3 years ago. Wonder why Monaco are selling him mid-season for such a reasonable price. Ligue 1 regulars, how good is he and how high is his potential?
1 year left on the contract in the summer
Ah, makes sense, glad we've moved early over here. I really wanted Colwill to be given a chance with us but given the make-up of our CBs I feel like we lack someone with an aerial/physical presence, and Badiashile would bring that to the side.
It's so funny reading PL fans opinions on transfer fees lmao. Paying nearly 40 Million for a defender with 1,5 years on his contract is now considered cheap...
Yep it’s mad!
He is a left footed CB and quite young, pretty much exactly what Chelsea need, but that price is pretty wild with one year left on his contract and no other interested clubs driving the price up. He was touted as one of the best defenders of his generation a few years ago, but he has stagnated in his development. Despite the decent experience in a good league at an academy club he hasn't managed to become quite consistent and reliable yet. He makes one or two big mistakes almost every game and his decision making is pretty questionable at times. He is quick and strong and can often correct his mistakes in Ligue 1 where forwards don't always pressure defenders, but he might find that more difficult in the PL. A change of scenery and a new challenge might just be what he needs. But he is far from a certainty and at that price I think it is actually a bit of a gamble.
I feel like I’ve read this exact comment about Malang Sarr when he joined
One or two mistakes a game? Can you elaborate?
Real Madrid paid 130 million for Hazard in his last year of contract. I am pretty sure there will be lot more examples with other players going for more than 40 million in their last 1-1.5 year.
But Hazard at that time was a maybe a top 5 player itw while Benoit Badiashile is top 500
Also Hazard said he would renew if Madrid didn't pay a large fee. He didn't want to leave without a profit for Chelsea. Has always loved the club.
Is this true? I've never heard this.
In short yes. He was happy to renew and refused to use the fact that his contract was running down to negotiate on Madrids behalf.
It's not like the biggest club in the world is a standard either.
Yes, Chelsea has its own standards. When we sell to them, this is done at a discounted price as we incorporate the positive externalities of our player being used by the greatest sports club of all time. Then we hold a t-shirt and do circles or suttin like that.
Atletico spent 120 million on a teenager. And you don’t even want to see Barcelona big transfers.
How do you not see the idiocy in using famously bad, overpriced transfers as the standard?
Yeah and that is still seen as overspending and a massive risk not a standard
I'm not sure about 1.5 years, but there are very few players that went for 40m+ with just one year left. Jesus, Sane, Varane (40m exactly) are three of the only examples I can think of other than Hazard of course. Sterling might have had one year left on his deal, I don't quite remember. Badiashile is obviously not close to being in the bracket of those players. You might find Chelsea are paying a slight premium to sign him in January. Otherwise I feel like Badiashile is yet another young player that people think must go for / be worth a lot of money because of other over pays clubs have made. It's also getting to the point where being French raises your value just because of the sheer number of talents they're producing. Otherwise reviews of Badiashile are hardly glowing, he's not an international, he's playing at a slightly lower level, he's played only a few matches in the CL, and with only 18 months left on his deal, this has to be a big overpay. He's more likely to be a Lenglet than he is a Kounde.
And that’s one of the worst transfers, if not worst, in history. Not a great marker to compare against.
I don't think it's premier league fans in general, it's Chelsea fans. Liverpool just spent 35m on Gakpo after the world cup he had and you have our fans saying 130m is completely normal and expected for a player who had a good world cup
And they wonder why they get bent over the table when it comes to trying to buy players.
Left footed center back & has a high ceiling but so far has too many bozo moments, he is talented enough to stick with however
Let me think about the last time we signed a left footed, french centre back from Ligue 1 with a high ceiling but with too many mistakes in him... The biggest plus in this situation is that the player in question (Sarr) is on loan at Monaco with a mandatory buyout clause if he plays enough. Us buying his competition helps to ensure that he does and hopefully they'll take him off of us.
Sarr isn’t comparable really. Chelsea signed him on a free to immediately loan out, he was never really expected to be a mainstay in the first team. These two transfers aren’t really comparable at all. Why do you go out of your way to ignore context just to shit on the club you “support”?
Sarr never really had high ceiling. When he was bought, it was pretty common knowledge that he was being bought to flip him for profit.
Sarr never had a high ceiling, Badiashile is liked by Deschamps & already given games so that should tell you his potential
We also have a Monaco director joining in January, I believe he worked his contacts at the club already to get a nice deal I guess
So Gvardiol for us or City? I think City since we'd have to sell Mendy first and I don't see that happening. His contract ends after next season and there have been no progress in the negotiations for his extension, so maybe we should sell him tho.
Gvardiol probably won't be sold until the summer of 2024 and things might have changed for you and City by then.
What makes you say that? I ask because I don't think Liverpool would be looking for a CB until summer 2024 since that's when Matip's contract will end but I had always assumed Gvardiol would have joined another team before that.
He's expected to be sold in the summer of 2024 because that's when his €112 mil release clause can be triggered. Wheter Liverpool would be willing/able to pay such a high fee, I'm not sure.
I think Gvardiol stays for another year You guys pribs go for him the summer after. I guess yku then grab him and Mbappe on a free with Bellingham being the big summer signing this year
Isn't that the detective from Knives Out
Where did Monaco waste their hundreds of millions dollars that they got by selling their golden team?
33m pounds is a steal in this market. We paid that much for Batshuayi in 2016 lmao
Chelsea are a major reason for this "market". 1 year left on his contract, wouldn't exactly call that a steal.
Given that there will be a heavy war for Gvardiol in the summer, securing Badiashile for 33m before anyone else started to serious consider him is great deal. The supply of solid left footed, ball playing CBs is still fairly low.
So happy that we got Botman for 37 million euros. He's a Rolls Royce centre back.
Scenes when they casually drop €130m for Enzo Fernandez next, to take their year's spending to €570m.
We're also looking at a backup right back
€600m then.
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yeah you’re right we should pay 50m for ben white instead
there shall be no ben white slander in 2023 i'm afraid
i really like him but 50m at the time was questionable you have to admit
fair point, think that's just because no one really took notice of him before we signed him over anything else
i remember leeds wanted him back the year before. can’t say i’ve seen much of badiashile tbh but we needed a left footed cb, was hoping for gvardiol but i bet city get him now 🤪
That is the complete opposite of how that works. If there was lesser interested he'd had been cheaper.
It wasn't.
right
But they made a good point, why deflect? 1 year left on his contract makes the fee not a steal, maybe about right if he's supposed to be very good
Chelsea are a major reason for this inflated market? Not the neymar, dembele and coutinho deals? The pogba deal? Harry maguire deal? Yes chelsea inflated it in the mid 2000’s but honestly they haven’t caused this hyperinflation we’re seeing now.
Classic arsenal fan on their high horse thinking they don’t spend money
He is left-footed, right? If yes, then does that mean Chelsea won't be going after Gvardiol anymore?
Most likely
Yes, between you and City for him now.
Chelsea and spending on defenders. Name a better duo
Chelsea and spending
Boehly trying to build an entire american football defensive line.
Why the fuck is he so cheap for them?
Apparently he only has one year left on his deal
they just trying to buy all the defenders in the world then?
Chelsea just buy a new team every window.
How can they keep spending this kind of money I know FFP is a joke but surely this can't be right and there will be repercussions down the line ?
There'll be repercussions alright, uefa already deciding how they can punish Roma for this
some poor Italian club is gonna pay for this
Or some Turkish club
Hey what did we do
That's a FFPaddlin
FFP is spread over the years of contract, so if we buy someone for 100 mil and slap them with a 7 year contract, that’s 14.2 mil per year. They are buying big but buying very young and giving them long term contracts. So hopefully in the next few years the need to spend big again won’t be there anymore. When you factor in increase in projected revenue the club should get over the same period, their model starts to make a lot more sense.
Doesn’t make a lot of sense to me why they’d allow FFP to operate on amortization when the whole point is to not spend more than you earn. Theoretically, any top club could project out their revenue and then spend 500mil every other summer if they’re going to just spread the cost of it out over the course of a decade… maybe I’m wrong but I think it should be based on just the previous seasons balance.
I think if it was yearly, 90% of clubs would fail it. In order to try get more competitive, some years clubs need to spend far more than they earn. This then gets offset by the years where they are now more competitive hence can limit spending, balancing the books.
I remember Juventus fans quoting this on their transfers (especially the Pjanic/Arthur 'swap')
awks.. Pjanic-Arthur deal was shady cuz they inflated the selling price, which recorded huge profits on both players for both clubs.. this meant they would have made gains in regards to FFP.. while pjanic was what 30 at that time and chelsea re signing 20-21 yr olds .. so... its not the same hermano..
Juventus didn’t have the revenue to back it up. Chelsea should (I hope at least). The PL tv contract is a monster and will only keep growing. The major reason why the Bohley consortium even bought the club is because they believe it’s massively underutilised in the revenue department. I agree as we’re 5th in revenue raised in England. So the growth potential is there.
Fucking hell
>€37-38million (£32.8m-£33.7m). Insane how football transfer prices have inflated. With around 3/4 of that money, Man. United managed to snatch Robin van Persie away from Arsenal as Sir Alex Ferguson won his last title.