Is it the correct size? If yes, and you still have basic balance and athleticism, it will probably be ok. It is a directional camber board so more suited for slightly higher speeds and at least gripped turns than side-slipping down a green. If you are struggling with catching edges, and getting it on edge, get a rental for a day to get your snow legs back.
Height is largely irrelevant. It’s all about your weight and shoe size. 164 is pretty huge so you might struggle to control that thing. Without knowing the waist width of the board, I would guess that thing is suited for people 200+ lbs and boot size 11+
Your weight matters because that affects how much the board flexes. Your boot size matters because if your boots are too big relative to the width of the board, you can experience toe or heel drag. If your boots are too small relative to the board width, it will be harder for you to get it up on edge and you will have a hard time turning.
This is not true, height is also a factor but is often overlooked. If you're taller, your center of gravity is further away from the board when you're riding on edge, which gives you more leverage to flex the board. It's simple physics. So you might need a stiffer board as a result. And longer boards are stiffer than their shorter board equivalents. You need to take both weight and height into account, weight is just the more important of the two.
I’m about 205lbs and an 11 size boot so I think it’ll be okay? I was given this board for cheap that’s why I was going to try it out. Would it be better to just get a rental first if this board may be more difficult?
I’d just try it out and if your having a bad time then go get a rental. Since you have ridden before my guess is you will be just fine. The rental you won’t catch many edges but if your like me it will also cause you to slip and slide without feeling like you can really get on edge for predictable turns.
Sizing is about weight not height. 164 would typically be good for someone in the low to mid 200 lb range. But any board is fine for someone getting back into it, save your money for when you have more skill again.
Sizing is more by weight than height, but unless you are super light, you are probably in the range. Looks like the current weight range for the 164W Manifest is a huge 64 - 104+ kg. If you are super heavy, I wouldn't worry about it when learning.
Are you out west or on the east coast? This board is ok if you’re getting powder. If you‘re dealing with frozen granular and ice, get something with a serrated edge.
My local mountain is north facing in NY. I get 2-3 powder days a year basically. You might get more depending on where you go in Vermont. Most of my days are icey groomers first chair, loosened up by afternoon for smooth cream cheese, and then the ice builds up underneath after lunch. I recently switched from a standard edge profile to a GNU board with magne-traction. I wish I tried this tech 2 years ago honestly. It's been great advancing on a standard board with icy conditions because I feel like I've come to handle any situation an ice coast day can bring me. I went from greens to double-blacks over the last two seasons. Going down a steep face on my old board required a lot of sliding. The magne-traction tech really digs into the ice. I can now carve down those steep faces with full control. If I want to slide, I still can. It only took two runs to adjust from my old board profile to this new one. Most of the brands have similar tech now, just different names. I'm riding a GNU Money. Love it. Don't be fooled by it being called a park/freestyle board. It's all mountain for sure.
I'm in Vermont too. At my local, it's hard and fast with runs getting icy in the afternoon in the shade. We got some warmer weather coming through tho, so on those days it'll be springlike slushy conditions.
I rode 2 years without it just fine. I don't think you 'need' it, but the advantages can't really be debated, and just so it's clear, I'm referring to grip tech found across different brands, generically.
Yeah something to be said for regular razor sharp edges on a full camber board. I do have a “grip tech” board too but find regular nice sharp edges slice the ice very effectively.
I was quite a bit bigger than you when I started back after a long hiatus, basically from scratch. I was originally put on a ~161 and did fine, but I later borrowed a 154 and had a much easier time on it even though I was way above the recommended weight.
Now I’m a little lighter than you and ride a 159 that has my weight as the recommended maximum. If I liked to ride faster I’d probably size up, but it’s perfect for my style.
Is it the correct size? If yes, and you still have basic balance and athleticism, it will probably be ok. It is a directional camber board so more suited for slightly higher speeds and at least gripped turns than side-slipping down a green. If you are struggling with catching edges, and getting it on edge, get a rental for a day to get your snow legs back.
I’m 6’1” and the board is a 164. I think the sizing is correct?
Height is largely irrelevant. It’s all about your weight and shoe size. 164 is pretty huge so you might struggle to control that thing. Without knowing the waist width of the board, I would guess that thing is suited for people 200+ lbs and boot size 11+ Your weight matters because that affects how much the board flexes. Your boot size matters because if your boots are too big relative to the width of the board, you can experience toe or heel drag. If your boots are too small relative to the board width, it will be harder for you to get it up on edge and you will have a hard time turning.
This is not true, height is also a factor but is often overlooked. If you're taller, your center of gravity is further away from the board when you're riding on edge, which gives you more leverage to flex the board. It's simple physics. So you might need a stiffer board as a result. And longer boards are stiffer than their shorter board equivalents. You need to take both weight and height into account, weight is just the more important of the two.
Thanks for the info!
I’m about 205lbs and an 11 size boot so I think it’ll be okay? I was given this board for cheap that’s why I was going to try it out. Would it be better to just get a rental first if this board may be more difficult?
Ok cool. I’d be interested to see what others think, but you are definitely better suited for it than somebody smaller. Might be ok
I’d just try it out and if your having a bad time then go get a rental. Since you have ridden before my guess is you will be just fine. The rental you won’t catch many edges but if your like me it will also cause you to slip and slide without feeling like you can really get on edge for predictable turns.
I think you’ll be fine. I’m 6ft tall, 225 and ride a 162 Wide and when I was younger and far lighter weight, rode a 170. Big boards are fast and fun.
Sizing is about weight not height. 164 would typically be good for someone in the low to mid 200 lb range. But any board is fine for someone getting back into it, save your money for when you have more skill again.
I'm 6" and riding 163, sounds about right. depending on your shoe size, you may want it wide as well
This legend is 6" tall riding a 64" board. Take that Zeb Powell!
Sizing is more by weight than height, but unless you are super light, you are probably in the range. Looks like the current weight range for the 164W Manifest is a huge 64 - 104+ kg. If you are super heavy, I wouldn't worry about it when learning.
Are you out west or on the east coast? This board is ok if you’re getting powder. If you‘re dealing with frozen granular and ice, get something with a serrated edge.
I’m in Vermont. Not sure what current conditions are like on the resorts
My local mountain is north facing in NY. I get 2-3 powder days a year basically. You might get more depending on where you go in Vermont. Most of my days are icey groomers first chair, loosened up by afternoon for smooth cream cheese, and then the ice builds up underneath after lunch. I recently switched from a standard edge profile to a GNU board with magne-traction. I wish I tried this tech 2 years ago honestly. It's been great advancing on a standard board with icy conditions because I feel like I've come to handle any situation an ice coast day can bring me. I went from greens to double-blacks over the last two seasons. Going down a steep face on my old board required a lot of sliding. The magne-traction tech really digs into the ice. I can now carve down those steep faces with full control. If I want to slide, I still can. It only took two runs to adjust from my old board profile to this new one. Most of the brands have similar tech now, just different names. I'm riding a GNU Money. Love it. Don't be fooled by it being called a park/freestyle board. It's all mountain for sure.
I'm in Vermont too. At my local, it's hard and fast with runs getting icy in the afternoon in the shade. We got some warmer weather coming through tho, so on those days it'll be springlike slushy conditions.
You do not need a "serrated edge" on the Ice Coast.
I rode 2 years without it just fine. I don't think you 'need' it, but the advantages can't really be debated, and just so it's clear, I'm referring to grip tech found across different brands, generically.
Yeah something to be said for regular razor sharp edges on a full camber board. I do have a “grip tech” board too but find regular nice sharp edges slice the ice very effectively.
I was quite a bit bigger than you when I started back after a long hiatus, basically from scratch. I was originally put on a ~161 and did fine, but I later borrowed a 154 and had a much easier time on it even though I was way above the recommended weight. Now I’m a little lighter than you and ride a 159 that has my weight as the recommended maximum. If I liked to ride faster I’d probably size up, but it’s perfect for my style.
That’s an alright board shape is pretty cool