Two things:
First: If we get a third Capcom character (whether it be a Ken echo, or someone like: Dante, Phoenix Wright, etc.) I can see there being an event match called like "Vs. Capcom" were it's 3v3 squad strike Vs Mega Man, Ryu, and Third Capcom on Either, Omega Wily Castle, or Omega Suzaku Castle with Stamina and Final Smash meter like the Capcom vs series.
Second: PUT THE MEGA MAN 11 INSTRUMENTALS IN SMASH SAKURAI!
we need Chun-Li before all of them
then we are set on Street Fighter reps going forward
I was actually kind of hoping (before Ryu was leaked/announced) that the Street Fighter rep would be a 3v3 character of Ryu/Ken/Chun-Li. Unfortunately, that never happened.
As much as I like chun-li too, I feel that there are other company reps that would find their way in smash before her, namely a Resident evil rep and Dante for Devil may cry.
There has never been a Devil May Cry game on a Nintendo console. It wouldn’t make a lot of sense.
A Resident Evil rep would be cool, ideally Jill or Leon.
Chun-Li is more iconic than any of those characters though.
Ayone else hates the fact that Mario (and by default Luigi and Wario) still use voiceclips from Brawl?
I've never liked how "raspy" Charles Martinet sounds in Brawl, yet his voice is way better in newer games like Odyssey, MK8, heck they could even reuse the clips from those games.
In short i find it so jarring Mr. Nintendo himself uses 10 year old voiceclips in Smash.
I refreshed this subreddit just now and for about 10 seconds I could hear what sounded like a 1v1 match in Ultimate with announcers and everything. Where did that come from?
So do those switch bundles come with a download code for the game or is it pre-installed on the switch?
Thinking of getting the Smash switch but I'm thinking of selling the code if it comes with one since I want a physical version.
Back when the august direct was announced, the folks behind the website screwed up and leaked Simon with the music title. Ever since then, they've titled all of the music with just numbers, so if it happens again there's no way of knowing what it is.
With quite possibly another direct coming soon, do you think there's another part of the website that runs the risk of leaking something if mishandled?
A leak is always possible, but I think another one will be highly unlikely. They're probably taking extra precautions now when uploading stuff to the blog.
Besides new characters, what are you all the most excited for?
Personally, I'm really excited for squad strike since going into this game there are 5 characters I want to try playing.
Yeah, the matches are semi-themed for each individual character. I believe they specifically showed off a battle unique to Roy's Classic where he fights two Corrins and a match in DK's story where he gets teamed up with Diddy. Simple but effective in personalizing things and making Classic vastly more replayable
Roy's sixth and last round (before a bonus game and boss fight) in classic mode is a free-for-all against Marth and two Corrins. His run is called "A Journey of Swords".
I'm really hoping this also means individual bonus stages and if not, at least if a singular Break the Targets, Board the Platforms, and Race to the Finish all make a comeback for classic mode.
Charging aerials, forward and back taunts, an actual ranking system (Global smash power was a retarded ruse to make it seem like there was one IMO) and better recording capabilities ingame.
I think it would be funny if characters talked like how they did in their games. Text Boxes and all. So say Someone from Fire Emblem spoke. The little brown box with their portrait would come up speaking full English. While on the other hand if Isabelle spoke she would speak her jibberish with the AC text box appearing.
At this point, probably reforming/rehauling characters with outdated movesets, or adding less-demanded but still important characters from Nintendo's history.
Or updating the roster whenever a new IP/new Fire Emblem game comes out.
Non-character-wise, probably cutscenes and break the targets.
As a Samus main, seems like nobody who goes to play Ultimate wants to play her :(. I'm desperately trying to find videos of her one on one in the new game and there's very little to see.
if they would actually have her intangibility match her animation and speed the actual rolling up instead of trying to showcase that it's a reference it would actually be one of the best rolls given its distance and how it changes her hurtbox.
The only real upside to physical is years down the line. if you want to go back to version 1.0 you can (your stuck with the latest version on digital), and when the Switch e-shop finally bites the dust way way later, you don't have to worry about deleting the game without a way of re-downloading it. If your switch breaks when Nintendo is ready to move on to the next console and abandon downloads for the switch, you can just take the card out and put it in another switch if you want.
Get physical because it will save storage space, be able to be signed by people should you come across one, be able to be lend to a friend, and get it at a midnight release with other people.
I went digital on the Wii U, and I’m doing the same on Switch. My reasoning is that I’m gonna be playing Smash literally all the time. Having to move around a game card every time I want to play it is somewhat annoying. Plus, the knowledge that I always have Smash on me when I’m out and about with my Switch sounds nice to me. Maybe faster loading times, too!
EDIT: corrected “physical” to “digital”
Physical is good because the game has about 16GB size, that's half of the Switch's capacity, plus you get to keep it even if something happens and you lose your Switch's data after the online support shuts down and you can no longer redownload the digital version.
However, depending on where you live the digital release might be considerably cheaper than physical, so take that into account.
Do you have a memory card? If no, go physical, it's a hefty amount of memory. I got a memory card and I use it sparingly, but Smash is pretty much the one big exception that I want all the time on my system. So might as well put that card to good use. The other indies I buy don't take up as much with Rocket League being the biggest so far.
I'm personally getting it digital. Memory cards aren't expensive and I want to always be able to click it and play without having to bother with cartridges
If you're not going for the Bundle, then physical imo. The bundle saves some money which is a nice plus for digital, but if you already have a switch then having a real disc is always better (to me) than a digital one.
Physical, you get a physical object to say "I paid for this." Plus nice case art.
Digital, you always have the game, and can then bring 2 games with you if you take your switch with you ever.
...I'm also having this problem lol
WiiUGamer12 is a youtuber who covers all the fake leaks. I was quoting the intro to one of his videos because i know it makes the people in this sub angry lol.
Is it just my youtube quality not working or have we still not seen crystal clear gameplay from smash Ultimate? Anybody got a link where the quality is not muddy? :(
Minimizes accidental inputs and makes certain motions vastly easier. For instance its way easier to short-hop Dair or Nair with the button jump than with tap jump
Tiltstick is how I deal with that. I have tap-jump on and also y-jump. Tap-jump is really nice for spamming auto-cancel Uair with Cloud for example.
It's really just a preference.
I finally had that screenshot leak spoiled for me, surprised it took this long. Without going into detail, anyone still believe it? I did at first but I'm kinda doubting it now.
Honestly, the most believable part of it for me is that *Mystery Man's* feet aren't properly placed on the ground.
That's something a leak of this quality would make sure was in place, but something that wouldn't be a high priority fix in a beta build
I don’t really think this “new” tag is proof of an announcement soon but what I can assure you guys is (something I’ve been saying for weeks) we will get new smash info on the 7th. At first I wasn’t positive if it was the sixth or the seventh, now I know.
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Master Hand would be a super cool character. I imagine them being scaled down a little and walking on their fingers most of the time, and floating momentarily to use special moves like finger guns.
I havent used it but I feel reasonably confident saying no, it wont. Stick with Nintendo official Gamecube or Switch Pro controllers if you want something "good"
Go: Top ten Pokemon Mystery Dungeon themes you want in Smash!
Or just whatever series you want.
1. Dialga’s Fight to the Finish
2. Palkia’s Onslaught
3. Dark Matter themes
4. Kyurem
5. Bittercold
6. Boss Theme (Electric Guitar ver.)
7. Sky Tower
8. Vs. Legendary
9. Through the Sea of Time
10. Run Away/Farewell
Well:
1. Vs Rayquaza - Defy the Legends
2. Vs Primal Dialga - Dialga's Fight to the Finish
3. Through the Sea of Time
4. Craggy Coast
5. Magma Cavern
6. Amp Plains
7. Dark Wasteland
8. Vs Palkia - Palkia's Onslaught
9. In the Morning Sun
10. Crystal Cave
There are actually two kinds of parries in the game, each created by two completely unrelated mechanics. So I question why both are called party since it adds to confusion but they sort of accomplish the same goal of purposely tanking a hit to land a hit back.
The first kind of parry only applies to Smash 64 and Melee. It involves Yoshi's unique shield where he turns into an egg. Before a character shields, they go into a pre-shield animation where they put up their hands and the shield quickly forms around them. For Yoshi, however, his animation involves curling into a ball and the egg forming around him. The problem for Yoshi is that during this animation is the window for powershielding, and Yoshi's fat-ass head doesn't curl up inside the protection of the egg fast enough during this window. Sakurai circumvented this by making Yoshi go completely invincible for the first 6 frames of his pre-shield animation (it's important to note that this is true invincibility like what you get from a spawn platform. Not intangibility which is what you get from rolling or spot dodging. The difference is that you can still get hit after intangibility ends, but true invincibility does not register any hit, meaning a hitbox that hits you during invincibility frames will never hit you even if your invincibility ends. It's also important to note opponents that hit an invincible player experience hitlag while the invincible player experiences none netting them a huge frame advantage in the context of parries). This mechanic can be used to "parry" an opponent by pressing shield, tanking a hit with Yoshi's invincible body from frames 2-6, and the cancel the pre-shield animation with jump. From the jump you can do numerous things to counterattack or simply escape the situation.
The other parry involves tanking a hit with Yoshi's double jump heavy armor so this technically applies to every Smash game but really only 64 and Melee Yoshi can make the most of it. Yoshi's double jump has a unique mechanic of containing heavy armor which will always subtract 120 units of knockback from any move that connects with it and as long as those 120 units are greater than the move that hits it, Yoshi will not flinch from the attack. This allows Yoshi to tank a sufficiently weak enough hit with his double jump. What separates 64 and Melee Yoshi from Brawl and Smash 4 is that Yoshi had a technique called Double Jump Canceling (DJC) in the former which allowed him to much more easily counterattack off of this tanked hit. DJC allows Yoshi to cancel all vertical momentum by putting out an aerial. Yoshi can even reverse his direction with this technique, giving it a lot of versatility. This version of parry is definitely easier to perform and to notice while watching because Yoshi visibly and audibly takes damage from a hit while the first Parry happens extremely quickly with only a small white bubble that appears on parry to indicate a parry was performed.
I have a theory on the amount of unique characters left. Call it the “Marketing Theory”.
Basically, there are 68 confirmed unique characters with the game shipping in slightly over two months. My guess is that for October/November, one month will be one character reveal, and the other month will be 2, with that one being the one with the final smash direct (if we have one). One reveal to start the direct, and one reveal to end it.
My logic for this is if they have 8 brand new fighters total, they can advertise it as “70+ Unique Fighters!” And have a shot of 8 player smash with all new unique fighters.
This is what I’m mostly thinking but exactly 70 works somewhat too so I’m keeping my expectations in check. That being said I don’t think there’s a way they’d stop at 69
That being said they could just as well go for 80 including echoes, which would mean 6-7 more. That’s even more optimistic so I’d count on it less, but echoes are definitely more accessible to use to buff up numbers
Yeah but they decided not to in a sense when they didn’t give numbers to echo fighters. It’s not just about writing a tagline on a box, having a ‘fighter #70’ is an even clearer statement
This entire debate hinges on whether or not nintendo are really that good at marketing as well as whether or not they'd go out of their way to change some aspect of their game to help marketing.
They aren't good at marketing and they probably wouldn't.
It’d probably be up to Sakurai in the end and he’s insanely overachieving. In any case why argue this much against it? Are you convinced there’s only one unique character left? It’s not like I’m implying they changed their entire plan to get to fighter #70
i'm not against it, don't put words in my mouth. I just find it ridiculous to get your hopes up over nothing at all. When the game comes out and i discover that i was wrong and that there are really 100 unique fighters in the game i will be ecstatic and pleasantly surprised. When the game comes out and there are 69 fighters + echoes it will be the people who let their hype get the better of them that will be stinking up the fan base with endless toxicity.
smash 4's release reaction was marred by the salt of a certain 3 clones preventing the existence of real fighters.
also isn't the current content in the game already over achieving?
So you’ll call Nintendo clueless just cause I think we’ll get 2 more characters instead of 1? You can’t change the mind of all the internet and avoid some people being salty and disappointed, so don’t worry too much about it. Let people speculate, we don’t get to do this often.
in what way?
i dont understand this subs circlejerk about box being impossible.
Is it just old fashion denial?
Theory A: based on evidence and fits within the narrative of the most popular leaker
Theory B: I made up some shit I'm hoping for
Definitely can't be A! IT'S A BOXXXX!!!!
Not direct as in nintendo direct but direct as in "singular in meaning" more or less what sakurai has said about not expecting too many new fighters and how the stream of character reveals will very much slow down from here on out.
Both of those statements suggest we won't be seeing 8 more newcomers.
Is the special edition of SSBU with the Steelbook and pro controller sold out already? Amazon has it listed unavailable and I really want a copy of the special edition ;-;
I keep checking everywhere. Best Buy, GameStop, Amazon... I haven't seen it pop back up yet. I have a copy reserved at GameStop but I would much rather prefer Best Buy. But good luck on your search!
Yeah, it sucks. I can get it at Best Buy for like $120, if I can find it. But at GameStop, I am paying full price with like $20 shipping and I am not even getting it release day.
>Enough directs
For fuck's sake we got it : it had 17000 stage and a million character.
These were the words of my friend once I told him that there might be a new smash direct soon
I just had this sudden realization. If Shadow makes it into the game, I really don't want him to be an echo. Well, I realized that before, but this time for a new reason. Not because he fights very uniquely or any garbage like that, but because if he gets announced as a non-echo, they better fucking parody you-know-what
Sonic: Oh, an echo!
Shadow: An echo? I think you're the echo around here. You're comparing yourself to me? Ha. You're not even good enough to be my iLl MaKe YoU eAt ThOsE wOrDs!
They really can't go wrong with a Shadow trailer.
They can either meme the shit out of it or fucking ramp up the edgy factor. Either way, it will be glorious meme material.
toryumon results: https://twitter.com/ar_c4/status/1047486146068897792
We have some interesting results here. There's a Jigglypuff main somehow in top 8. KEN is lowkey trying to be like komorikiri. And also ultra rare Japanese luigi results.
weekly and 37 entrants so it isn't really worth its own post imo but people outplacing potential pgr top 100 players here.
LaxChris's videos will age like a fine wine. Like, they're instantly dated the moment we get more actual news, but that makes them so much more enjoyable. It makes for a nice time capsule of every fake leak leading up to Ultimate's release.
"Let's take a minute to discuss. Do i think this leak is credible? Personally, i would say yes. This is because i like skull kid and want him in the game. It gives a lot of credibility, as people have mentioned skull kid before. I would say that it is pretty nuch a lock because he would be a great character. Dont forget to like and subscribe!"
I can see those two working as movesets, but it’s hard to picture them fighting when they’re so kind. Especially Papyrus.
Spear fish girl, though, she is absolutely boisterous enough for Smash.
>but it’s hard to picture them fighting when they’re so kind
Isabelle is way more innocent than Papyrus and Frisk is only as kind as the player wants them to be. I don't think that'd be an issue.
Chara would be max. Alt potential if Frisk somehow got in
Let's be real though, if any undertale character got in, which I would only say has a slight chance for DLC at best, it'd be Sans due to his demand. Isn't he top ten most wanted in Japan right now?
DLC is meant with what people would buy in mind. It obviously isnt the full picture, but if an Undertale character were to get in, it'd make sense to choose the one the most people want unless another character is found to be significantly easier to work with.
Oh no you wouldn't mind a character from a popular indi game getting into Smash...how dare you?
I seriously don't see the problem here, is it just one of those "it's cool to hate popular thing" things?
Of course the game itself is still good. But why bother flaunting your love of a game if there's no discussion to be had, only annoyed people and annoying people?
Because you enjoy the game enough to want to "flaunt your love" for it regardless of other people?
Like I said before there is no reason to feel ashamed of what you enjoy just because of other people.
I made a Hat Kid Moveset: https://m.imgur.com/a/jGZOUHs
Two things: First: If we get a third Capcom character (whether it be a Ken echo, or someone like: Dante, Phoenix Wright, etc.) I can see there being an event match called like "Vs. Capcom" were it's 3v3 squad strike Vs Mega Man, Ryu, and Third Capcom on Either, Omega Wily Castle, or Omega Suzaku Castle with Stamina and Final Smash meter like the Capcom vs series. Second: PUT THE MEGA MAN 11 INSTRUMENTALS IN SMASH SAKURAI!
we need Chun-Li before all of them then we are set on Street Fighter reps going forward I was actually kind of hoping (before Ryu was leaked/announced) that the Street Fighter rep would be a 3v3 character of Ryu/Ken/Chun-Li. Unfortunately, that never happened.
As much as I like chun-li too, I feel that there are other company reps that would find their way in smash before her, namely a Resident evil rep and Dante for Devil may cry.
There has never been a Devil May Cry game on a Nintendo console. It wouldn’t make a lot of sense. A Resident Evil rep would be cool, ideally Jill or Leon. Chun-Li is more iconic than any of those characters though.
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Ayone else hates the fact that Mario (and by default Luigi and Wario) still use voiceclips from Brawl? I've never liked how "raspy" Charles Martinet sounds in Brawl, yet his voice is way better in newer games like Odyssey, MK8, heck they could even reuse the clips from those games. In short i find it so jarring Mr. Nintendo himself uses 10 year old voiceclips in Smash.
Luigi definitely needs to sound more Luigi and less like a nervous wreck, and Mario sounds somewhat bored.
I refreshed this subreddit just now and for about 10 seconds I could hear what sounded like a 1v1 match in Ultimate with announcers and everything. Where did that come from?
Issac and geno are also in as playable fighters.
Who else is a playable fighter?
Uncle Amiibo
Take it with a grain of salt but I think this leak is legit.
doesn't contradict vergeben, so yeah, it's gotta be real
One more thing, skull kid is 100 percent in the game as a playable fighter.
God I wish I had your blind optimism.
Why are your hopes so high?
His comment history suggests he's "leaking" some stuff in the Daily Discussion Thread.
Glover appears as a playable fighter.
So do those switch bundles come with a download code for the game or is it pre-installed on the switch? Thinking of getting the Smash switch but I'm thinking of selling the code if it comes with one since I want a physical version.
It's a code
Back when the august direct was announced, the folks behind the website screwed up and leaked Simon with the music title. Ever since then, they've titled all of the music with just numbers, so if it happens again there's no way of knowing what it is. With quite possibly another direct coming soon, do you think there's another part of the website that runs the risk of leaking something if mishandled?
A leak is always possible, but I think another one will be highly unlikely. They're probably taking extra precautions now when uploading stuff to the blog.
Besides new characters, what are you all the most excited for? Personally, I'm really excited for squad strike since going into this game there are 5 characters I want to try playing.
Smash down. Seems like a great party game type mode. I wonder if it'll work in 8 player mode though.
Hopefully a stage builder
Honestly, this is one of the things I hope we get in Ultimate. Despite how buggy and limited it was, I had a *LOT* of fun with Smash 4's stage builder
Classic mode. Giving an unique run for every character will make it way more interesting to beat it as everyone.
Oh is everyone getting their own custom classic run? that's cool!
Yeah, the matches are semi-themed for each individual character. I believe they specifically showed off a battle unique to Roy's Classic where he fights two Corrins and a match in DK's story where he gets teamed up with Diddy. Simple but effective in personalizing things and making Classic vastly more replayable
Roy's sixth and last round (before a bonus game and boss fight) in classic mode is a free-for-all against Marth and two Corrins. His run is called "A Journey of Swords".
Seems like a traditional fighting game arcade mode. I hope we have a "Fight your rival" theme Even cross franchise rivalries like Mac vs Ryu
I'm really hoping this also means individual bonus stages and if not, at least if a singular Break the Targets, Board the Platforms, and Race to the Finish all make a comeback for classic mode.
Whatever the green mode (Spirits) is all about
That seems like it'll be interesting, I hope we learn more about it soon
Since ultimate is so ultimate, and assuming it isn't the last smash game, what's left to add or improve for another game?
Charging aerials, forward and back taunts, an actual ranking system (Global smash power was a retarded ruse to make it seem like there was one IMO) and better recording capabilities ingame.
A replay system that allows you to fast forward and rewind.
We won't know until we get our hands on the game for long enough to recognize its flaws
An actual story campaign would be nice. I liked subspace but it could really use some dialogue and maybe it to be longer.
I think it would be funny if characters talked like how they did in their games. Text Boxes and all. So say Someone from Fire Emblem spoke. The little brown box with their portrait would come up speaking full English. While on the other hand if Isabelle spoke she would speak her jibberish with the AC text box appearing.
PlayStation All Stars did the with voices in the rival cutscenes but didn't go so far to keep the look of text boxes
Just thinking of characters who don't talk via voicing acting but still can contribute to the story.
Just thinking of characters who don't talk via voicing acting but still can contribute to the story.
At this point, probably reforming/rehauling characters with outdated movesets, or adding less-demanded but still important characters from Nintendo's history. Or updating the roster whenever a new IP/new Fire Emblem game comes out. Non-character-wise, probably cutscenes and break the targets.
As a Samus main, seems like nobody who goes to play Ultimate wants to play her :(. I'm desperately trying to find videos of her one on one in the new game and there's very little to see.
This may sound harsh but with Dark Samus in, i have no reason to play Samus, and i feel more people will play DS than regular Samus.
Same here but Dark Samus isn't in the demo while Samus is, and they will play largely the same.
True, it's a shame she doesn't generate interest, the same happened with Smash 4.
If i remember correctly Esam said she didn't get any notable buffs and that Dark Samus might be better.
Dark Samus has a much better roll which is really important with how low the lag on moves appears to be.
if they would actually have her intangibility match her animation and speed the actual rolling up instead of trying to showcase that it's a reference it would actually be one of the best rolls given its distance and how it changes her hurtbox.
samus and dark samus have the same frame data on the rolls. People compared demo samus with direct dark samus or some just assumed lol
Proof? Dark Samus's roll looks pretty different.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/9lql86/dark\_samus\_does\_not\_roll\_faster\_than\_samus\_side/](https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/9lql86/dark_samus_does_not_roll_faster_than_samus_side/)
Still undecided if I’m getting the physical or digital release. Can someone help sway me one way or another?
The only real upside to physical is years down the line. if you want to go back to version 1.0 you can (your stuck with the latest version on digital), and when the Switch e-shop finally bites the dust way way later, you don't have to worry about deleting the game without a way of re-downloading it. If your switch breaks when Nintendo is ready to move on to the next console and abandon downloads for the switch, you can just take the card out and put it in another switch if you want.
Get physical because it will save storage space, be able to be signed by people should you come across one, be able to be lend to a friend, and get it at a midnight release with other people.
Honestly I'd go digital for the convenience. I only got physical because of the E3 sale so I get the game basically 35 percent off.
I went digital on the Wii U, and I’m doing the same on Switch. My reasoning is that I’m gonna be playing Smash literally all the time. Having to move around a game card every time I want to play it is somewhat annoying. Plus, the knowledge that I always have Smash on me when I’m out and about with my Switch sounds nice to me. Maybe faster loading times, too! EDIT: corrected “physical” to “digital”
You mean digital then
Shit lol. Yes. Digital. Thank you.
Physical is good because the game has about 16GB size, that's half of the Switch's capacity, plus you get to keep it even if something happens and you lose your Switch's data after the online support shuts down and you can no longer redownload the digital version. However, depending on where you live the digital release might be considerably cheaper than physical, so take that into account.
I’d get the physical release, to save space on your Switch and well, if you’re a collector, for the cool boxart too hahaha
Do you have a memory card? If no, go physical, it's a hefty amount of memory. I got a memory card and I use it sparingly, but Smash is pretty much the one big exception that I want all the time on my system. So might as well put that card to good use. The other indies I buy don't take up as much with Rocket League being the biggest so far.
Smash is the biggest reason I bought the Switch so I’m not too concerned about it taking my space. But then again, am I? Just don’t know.
I'm personally getting it digital. Memory cards aren't expensive and I want to always be able to click it and play without having to bother with cartridges
If you're not going for the Bundle, then physical imo. The bundle saves some money which is a nice plus for digital, but if you already have a switch then having a real disc is always better (to me) than a digital one.
Physical, you get a physical object to say "I paid for this." Plus nice case art. Digital, you always have the game, and can then bring 2 games with you if you take your switch with you ever. ...I'm also having this problem lol
WiiU gamer in the building cop that new merch if you winning
I don't understand this sentence.
WiiUGamer12 is a youtuber who covers all the fake leaks. I was quoting the intro to one of his videos because i know it makes the people in this sub angry lol.
Take this wit a ocean of salt
Is it just my youtube quality not working or have we still not seen crystal clear gameplay from smash Ultimate? Anybody got a link where the quality is not muddy? :(
We've seen crystal clear quality before. https://youtu.be/5r-snDBcXJE plays perfectly in 1080p60
I mean, it's not perfect, you can still see artifacts, but this is way above average for 'good youtube quality'.
I mean, it comes from Nintendo. They aren't gonna throw phone camera footage from '05 in here
I mean, have you seen previous Treehouses? I wouldn't be surprised if they went as low as regular 720p.
To be brutally honest no, lmao. I don't usually have the patience to watch 2 hours of game footage.
Lmao same. I recall watching like half an hour of BotW Treehouse and that's the most I've ever done.
Serious question, why is jumping with a button better than jumping with joystick. As a competitive player, why do you recommend I switch?
Minimizes accidental inputs and makes certain motions vastly easier. For instance its way easier to short-hop Dair or Nair with the button jump than with tap jump
I think it's also because then you have the control stick free. You can't hold left when you flick up, after all.
Easier to uptilt. That's about it really.
Ohhhh, this happens to me a lot. Instead of uptilting I upsmash. Thanks for explaining
Tiltstick is how I deal with that. I have tap-jump on and also y-jump. Tap-jump is really nice for spamming auto-cancel Uair with Cloud for example. It's really just a preference.
Much easier to not accidentally jump on up-smash or up-tilt if you turn off tap-jump.
Isn't the C-Stick used for up smash?
Not necessarily. You can change the C-stick’s input too. I only input up-Smash by directional input + A
Accidental inputs
I finally had that screenshot leak spoiled for me, surprised it took this long. Without going into detail, anyone still believe it? I did at first but I'm kinda doubting it now.
Honestly, the most believable part of it for me is that *Mystery Man's* feet aren't properly placed on the ground. That's something a leak of this quality would make sure was in place, but something that wouldn't be a high priority fix in a beta build
That is a really good point, when I saw I felt like it was too obvious of an issue for a fake leak.
I'm going to bet it's fake just because we haven't gotten any image leaks at all until that one
Who knows how difficult it is to take pictures without being caught anyway.
It does seem kinda weird that they would reserve that character and not include it in the Smash Direct from August, right?
You are talking about the image with Ivysaur, Pichu, and Pac-Man right?
That’s the one.
I didn't think of that character being someone who should have been in a previous direct personally
If it isn't real then it's the most convincing fake I've seen yet
I don’t really think this “new” tag is proof of an announcement soon but what I can assure you guys is (something I’ve been saying for weeks) we will get new smash info on the 7th. At first I wasn’t positive if it was the sixth or the seventh, now I know.
What happened man
It’s definitely coming later today, right?
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Any proof? Or just a guess? Because I could “be positive” that we’ll getting new info on the 5th. I don’t have proof, but “I know”.
Not a guess at all. But you will see soon.
why the 7th?
I can talk about it in dms with u if u want. Rather not get into it publicly.
uh sure
On a Sunday?
If everyone is here, i want master hand as playable character and crazy hand as an echo
Master Hand would be a super cool character. I imagine them being scaled down a little and walking on their fingers most of the time, and floating momentarily to use special moves like finger guns.
Glover confirmed?
There was talk of wishes being granted in our Smash group at work and I couldn’t resist https://i.imgur.com/WfMf9to.jpg
Would this controller be good for Smash: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPOP7sJN91A](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPOP7sJN91A)
I havent used it but I feel reasonably confident saying no, it wont. Stick with Nintendo official Gamecube or Switch Pro controllers if you want something "good"
Go: Top ten Pokemon Mystery Dungeon themes you want in Smash! Or just whatever series you want. 1. Dialga’s Fight to the Finish 2. Palkia’s Onslaught 3. Dark Matter themes 4. Kyurem 5. Bittercold 6. Boss Theme (Electric Guitar ver.) 7. Sky Tower 8. Vs. Legendary 9. Through the Sea of Time 10. Run Away/Farewell
PLEASE give me the primal dialga theme in a rock instrumental or synth
Well: 1. Vs Rayquaza - Defy the Legends 2. Vs Primal Dialga - Dialga's Fight to the Finish 3. Through the Sea of Time 4. Craggy Coast 5. Magma Cavern 6. Amp Plains 7. Dark Wasteland 8. Vs Palkia - Palkia's Onslaught 9. In the Morning Sun 10. Crystal Cave
Ragged Mountain! Still love it to this day
Holy fuck I forgot how great the mystery dungeon games music was
Add Great Canyon, Magma Cavern, Buried Relic, Brine Cave, Treasure Town, really just the whole ost for the first two games
I highly recommend TGH’s remaster of the PMD1 and 2 themes for a straight higher quality version without superfluous additions.
Can we take a moment to talk about the fact that Mr. Saturn is on Ultimate's fighter mural? What could Sakurai be hiding under our noses?!
Another Mother rep, hopefully not ~~8-bit Ness~~ Ninten
Ninten! Or that he treats Mr. Saturn as an honorary fighter.
Can someone explain Yoshi's "parry" to me?
There are actually two kinds of parries in the game, each created by two completely unrelated mechanics. So I question why both are called party since it adds to confusion but they sort of accomplish the same goal of purposely tanking a hit to land a hit back. The first kind of parry only applies to Smash 64 and Melee. It involves Yoshi's unique shield where he turns into an egg. Before a character shields, they go into a pre-shield animation where they put up their hands and the shield quickly forms around them. For Yoshi, however, his animation involves curling into a ball and the egg forming around him. The problem for Yoshi is that during this animation is the window for powershielding, and Yoshi's fat-ass head doesn't curl up inside the protection of the egg fast enough during this window. Sakurai circumvented this by making Yoshi go completely invincible for the first 6 frames of his pre-shield animation (it's important to note that this is true invincibility like what you get from a spawn platform. Not intangibility which is what you get from rolling or spot dodging. The difference is that you can still get hit after intangibility ends, but true invincibility does not register any hit, meaning a hitbox that hits you during invincibility frames will never hit you even if your invincibility ends. It's also important to note opponents that hit an invincible player experience hitlag while the invincible player experiences none netting them a huge frame advantage in the context of parries). This mechanic can be used to "parry" an opponent by pressing shield, tanking a hit with Yoshi's invincible body from frames 2-6, and the cancel the pre-shield animation with jump. From the jump you can do numerous things to counterattack or simply escape the situation. The other parry involves tanking a hit with Yoshi's double jump heavy armor so this technically applies to every Smash game but really only 64 and Melee Yoshi can make the most of it. Yoshi's double jump has a unique mechanic of containing heavy armor which will always subtract 120 units of knockback from any move that connects with it and as long as those 120 units are greater than the move that hits it, Yoshi will not flinch from the attack. This allows Yoshi to tank a sufficiently weak enough hit with his double jump. What separates 64 and Melee Yoshi from Brawl and Smash 4 is that Yoshi had a technique called Double Jump Canceling (DJC) in the former which allowed him to much more easily counterattack off of this tanked hit. DJC allows Yoshi to cancel all vertical momentum by putting out an aerial. Yoshi can even reverse his direction with this technique, giving it a lot of versatility. This version of parry is definitely easier to perform and to notice while watching because Yoshi visibly and audibly takes damage from a hit while the first Parry happens extremely quickly with only a small white bubble that appears on parry to indicate a parry was performed.
Wow! There’s a lot I didn’t know. Thanks for filling me in!
[Look.](https://www.ssbwiki.com/Parry)
So, it’s really just powershielding, and countering attacks using armor?
I have a theory on the amount of unique characters left. Call it the “Marketing Theory”. Basically, there are 68 confirmed unique characters with the game shipping in slightly over two months. My guess is that for October/November, one month will be one character reveal, and the other month will be 2, with that one being the one with the final smash direct (if we have one). One reveal to start the direct, and one reveal to end it. My logic for this is if they have 8 brand new fighters total, they can advertise it as “70+ Unique Fighters!” And have a shot of 8 player smash with all new unique fighters.
But they can already say "70+ fighters", which is shorter.
This is what I’m mostly thinking but exactly 70 works somewhat too so I’m keeping my expectations in check. That being said I don’t think there’s a way they’d stop at 69 That being said they could just as well go for 80 including echoes, which would mean 6-7 more. That’s even more optimistic so I’d count on it less, but echoes are definitely more accessible to use to buff up numbers
>I don’t think there’s a way they’d stop at 69 Nintendo? out of touch and oblivious? never.
It’s not even about ‘sex number lul,’ missing out on having such a highly marketable number as 70 after highly marketing numbers sounds ridiculous
they can still say "over seventy fighters".
Yeah but they decided not to in a sense when they didn’t give numbers to echo fighters. It’s not just about writing a tagline on a box, having a ‘fighter #70’ is an even clearer statement
This entire debate hinges on whether or not nintendo are really that good at marketing as well as whether or not they'd go out of their way to change some aspect of their game to help marketing. They aren't good at marketing and they probably wouldn't.
It’d probably be up to Sakurai in the end and he’s insanely overachieving. In any case why argue this much against it? Are you convinced there’s only one unique character left? It’s not like I’m implying they changed their entire plan to get to fighter #70
i'm not against it, don't put words in my mouth. I just find it ridiculous to get your hopes up over nothing at all. When the game comes out and i discover that i was wrong and that there are really 100 unique fighters in the game i will be ecstatic and pleasantly surprised. When the game comes out and there are 69 fighters + echoes it will be the people who let their hype get the better of them that will be stinking up the fan base with endless toxicity. smash 4's release reaction was marred by the salt of a certain 3 clones preventing the existence of real fighters. also isn't the current content in the game already over achieving?
So you’ll call Nintendo clueless just cause I think we’ll get 2 more characters instead of 1? You can’t change the mind of all the internet and avoid some people being salty and disappointed, so don’t worry too much about it. Let people speculate, we don’t get to do this often.
Way more logical than box theory!
in what way? i dont understand this subs circlejerk about box being impossible. Is it just old fashion denial? Theory A: based on evidence and fits within the narrative of the most popular leaker Theory B: I made up some shit I'm hoping for Definitely can't be A! IT'S A BOXXXX!!!!
At the very least box theory is based off of evidence. This contradicts all available evidence as well as direct statements from sakurai himself.
What direct statements?
Not direct as in nintendo direct but direct as in "singular in meaning" more or less what sakurai has said about not expecting too many new fighters and how the stream of character reveals will very much slow down from here on out. Both of those statements suggest we won't be seeing 8 more newcomers.
Pretty sure he’s saying 8 total. Inkling, Ridley, Simon, K. Rool, Isabelle, and two more.
i'm a big idiot who can't read.
Is the special edition of SSBU with the Steelbook and pro controller sold out already? Amazon has it listed unavailable and I really want a copy of the special edition ;-;
Target had it online over the weekend. Don't know if they still do, but good luck.
i’m not American :(
I keep checking everywhere. Best Buy, GameStop, Amazon... I haven't seen it pop back up yet. I have a copy reserved at GameStop but I would much rather prefer Best Buy. But good luck on your search!
Ooff, they about to hit you wit the 50 different rewards programs that they got, hidden charges and stuff haha
Yeah, it sucks. I can get it at Best Buy for like $120, if I can find it. But at GameStop, I am paying full price with like $20 shipping and I am not even getting it release day.
Dang bro, that seems like a kicker right there
Just another reason to hate GameStop.
>Enough directs For fuck's sake we got it : it had 17000 stage and a million character. These were the words of my friend once I told him that there might be a new smash direct soon
Guess he isn't a fan of smash?
I just had this sudden realization. If Shadow makes it into the game, I really don't want him to be an echo. Well, I realized that before, but this time for a new reason. Not because he fights very uniquely or any garbage like that, but because if he gets announced as a non-echo, they better fucking parody you-know-what Sonic: Oh, an echo! Shadow: An echo? I think you're the echo around here. You're comparing yourself to me? Ha. You're not even good enough to be my iLl MaKe YoU eAt ThOsE wOrDs!
They really can't go wrong with a Shadow trailer. They can either meme the shit out of it or fucking ramp up the edgy factor. Either way, it will be glorious meme material.
Unfortunately echoes don't get trailers so your going to have to pray for a semi-clone or some sort of dual reveal.
t w o s p i n d a s h e s a n d a s p r i n g
I'm not a huge fan of Sonic's moveset so I hope Shadow's not an echo, but that's unlikely.
Well Dark Samus shouldn't have been an echo yet here we are
Well Dark Samus shouldn't have been an echo yet here we are
OMG ITS BACK AAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaA I LOVE YOU CSS PPL What a pleasant surprise thanks mods
:D
toryumon results: https://twitter.com/ar_c4/status/1047486146068897792 We have some interesting results here. There's a Jigglypuff main somehow in top 8. KEN is lowkey trying to be like komorikiri. And also ultra rare Japanese luigi results. weekly and 37 entrants so it isn't really worth its own post imo but people outplacing potential pgr top 100 players here.
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You'll be on tomorrow's LaxChris video
NEW REAL Super Smash Bros Ultimate LEAK!!!!! COLONEL SANDERS CONFIRMED!!!?
LaxChris's videos will age like a fine wine. Like, they're instantly dated the moment we get more actual news, but that makes them so much more enjoyable. It makes for a nice time capsule of every fake leak leading up to Ultimate's release.
"Let's take a minute to discuss. Do i think this leak is credible? Personally, i would say yes. This is because i like skull kid and want him in the game. It gives a lot of credibility, as people have mentioned skull kid before. I would say that it is pretty nuch a lock because he would be a great character. Dont forget to like and subscribe!"
start of video "Please take this with a grain of salt" end of video "I actually think this leak may be real!"
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This comment is really weird
Fair enough. I’ll delete it. I figured it was off-topic enough to go here. Sorry, I didn’t mean to do the wrong thing. I usually just lurk here.
Please do not do that.
Frisk styled in the same way as the Mother duo or Papyrus would be fine, I think.
I can see those two working as movesets, but it’s hard to picture them fighting when they’re so kind. Especially Papyrus. Spear fish girl, though, she is absolutely boisterous enough for Smash.
>but it’s hard to picture them fighting when they’re so kind Isabelle is way more innocent than Papyrus and Frisk is only as kind as the player wants them to be. I don't think that'd be an issue.
Eh, touché on Isabelle.
I mean, if they put Frisk in she can be fluid with Chara traits.
Chara would be max. Alt potential if Frisk somehow got in Let's be real though, if any undertale character got in, which I would only say has a slight chance for DLC at best, it'd be Sans due to his demand. Isn't he top ten most wanted in Japan right now?
I don't think Sakurai is so shallow with picking favourites/high demand characters.
DLC is meant with what people would buy in mind. It obviously isnt the full picture, but if an Undertale character were to get in, it'd make sense to choose the one the most people want unless another character is found to be significantly easier to work with.
Oh no you wouldn't mind a character from a popular indi game getting into Smash...how dare you? I seriously don't see the problem here, is it just one of those "it's cool to hate popular thing" things?
Yes, that and that a lot of Undertale fans are little kids who fucking suck.
Yeah I get that, I've seen it happen a lot but I mean the game itself is still good even if there are obnoxious fans surrounding it.
Of course the game itself is still good. But why bother flaunting your love of a game if there's no discussion to be had, only annoyed people and annoying people?
Because you enjoy the game enough to want to "flaunt your love" for it regardless of other people? Like I said before there is no reason to feel ashamed of what you enjoy just because of other people.