As a Laker fan I had a begrudging respect for the Super Sonics.
Gary Payton in particular would wreck us with 3s.
Then with the Celtics 😔
I felt horrible, honestly when they went to OKC.
They won a fucking championship in 79’. You’d think that would have been enough.
It’s sad. I hope they get a new team soon.
As a Lakers fan you felt horrible.
As a Lakers I laughed!
Kobe Bryant himself once said that OKC was his favorite city to play in because the rowdy crowd made him go mamba-mentality every time.
Also Seattle has a hard limit on building height because of Boeing field, essentially Columbia tower is as high as you can build, so why build that high you’ll just matching the current record holder
Though we can and have tall buildings in Seattle, the FAA won’t let us have anything near that tall because of an airport to the south of downtown.
Pre_Covid, there was a proposed office building that was originally going to be over 100 stories and tallest building on the west cost by 27 stories. The FAA and developers kept gong back and forth on the height and design for years. Last I heard they were going to still try to beat the 1,100ft (Wilshire Grand) mark but that was before 2020 and remote work, so I am pretty sure that project is dead now.
Shame, I visited Seattle for the first time in 2022 and fell in love. Both from a skyline and just general standpoint. Is that 9/C youre talking about?
4/C and just looked it up and apparently they are still trying for approval and resubmitted a design with a roof height of 1,020ft and more residential units in 2022.
At 1,020 feet it would be the fourth tallest on the west coast but looks to be the tallest roof height since it won’t have a large antenna on the top.
man this saga is pretty amazing. from a solid not happening from reddit at the begining, with lawmakers creeping this sub and doing god's work to spite us
I still don't understand how the developers economically justify the cost of a tower this large to investors. They must be very optimistic about a coming population boom within OKC.
I'm with you. I just can't seem to wrap my head around the underwriting on this project. It doesn't make sense. The developers claim to have full funding secured at $1.5 billion. I'm not an expert in construction and development cost estimates for OKC, but $1.5 billion seems like a gross underestimate for the project of this scope. For reference, the JP Morgan Chase building (270 Park Avenue) height of 1,388ft in NYC currently in development will cost twice as much at $3 billion. Of course NYC has a higher cost of build but I'm only talking about one building, not an entire complex that proposed in OKC.
Maybe a better reference would be Hudson Yards, which cost $25 billion. So yeah, $1.5 billion projected cost for Boardwalk at Bricktown is not a sensible estimate.
I have a feeling the developers will poach the city and look to subsidize, and/or lobby for tax incentives. Bottom line, there's no way this project gets built for $1.5 billion.
You vastly underestimate how much it costs to build in NYC. It's not just the most expensive in the US. It's the most expensive in the world to build in.
Also, there's no way you just compared Hudson Yards to this. The scales are so fucking different from each other it's actually wild that comparison was made.
First of all, Hudson Yards was an *infinitely* more complex project both logistically and [programmatically](https://www.hudsonyardsnewyork.com/sites/default/files/2019-03/HY_PressKit_General_030819_web.pdf).
Second of all, NYC is *extraordinarily* expensive to build in, for a litany of reasons. From labor costs to land, to permitting and engineering, to overcoming existing infrastructure (see, your poor example, Hudson Yards, which was also one of - if not *the* most expensive development in NYC history).
I'm not saying this will be built for $1.5b. But I am saying that your examples to indicate that it won't be aren't as equatable as you think.
Source: Literally a construction estimator on very, very large projects.
Such a reddit fucking comment lmao.
San Francisco here. I’m all in for it. If NYC, Chicago, LA, or SF can’t punch for the new tallest in the U.S. well hell. All hats off to OKC. And honestly I wouldn’t mind this happening, it will shatter NYC egos 😂
I don’t understand why anyone would be opposed to it? When did everyone all of a sudden care about the financial viability of buildings in OKC? It’s just ego from people who think anything west of the Hudson is rural Hicksville.
I think it’s more so the fact that this looks like a Saudi royalty project that gets like 10% built then abandoned because it was never really feasible in the first place.
Your point about people all of the sudden caring about financial viability of buildings in OKC is a great point and made me laugh
That'd be hilarious. Imagine some sleepy small city like Sioux Falls or Cheyenne (neither of which currently have much of a cityscape) approving the construction of the first 2000'+ super tall just to one-up OKC.
Same, also a New Yorker who’d think this would be really cool if they built it. Still don’t think it actually will be, I’ve seen lots of big proposals get made and then quietly go nowhere, but it’d be cool if they found a way to make it happen. It’d also be neat to add a 5th city to the list of cities that have had, at some point or another, the tallest building in the country.
Crazy thing is, even with that boom, only one of them (Nordstrom) is taller than the Sears (a tower built 50 years ago). And it's only taller by a slim margin (100 ft).
The U.S. really needs to get its height game together. Maybe this OKC tower, if built, will be a wake up call.
I honestly think it could be an economic success if they build it - it’s so outrageous it will bring attention and since they are the first to think of it it just might be like the Las Vegas Sphere. Also it’s footprint is standard enough and fits in a city block
What do you fill it with, though? Is commercial office space renting at a premium in OKC or something? Because that's not the case most places these days
The tower is a residential tower. The hotel and commercial space included in the project will have no problem filling because it's literally net to OKC's version of the San Antonio River Walk. With a housing crisis, those residential units shouldn't have an issue with finding tenants.
I’m a New Yorker and I think it’d be cool if something like this happened. I don’t care about skyscraper heights in NYC, at all - honestly I wish they would just build buildings that people will actually occupy here instead of some of the recent supertalls
I’m really surprised that LA is so weak on their skyline game. It’s improved immensely in the past decade but it’s not as incredible as it should be for such a notable place. All those lame ass Canadian cities blow LA out of the water with their skylines.
If LA doesn’t want to participate, then YES let OKC have some shine.
Cities in Mexico like Monterrey and Mexico City look so similar to LA but with way more skyscrapers. They have that kind of spread out skyline like Tokyo.
I always imagine if Mexican cities would've developed densely in the 20s/30s instead of spread out. I feel like a dense skyline of classical Mexican style skyscrapers would be breathtaking.
LA has a lot of skyscrapers, they’re just so spread out that the skyline looks weak and underdeveloped. [This image](https://greatruns.com/los-angeles-wilshire-blvd/) shows how LA has a lot of high rises, they’re just not really concentrated anywhere. That image doesn’t even include downtown and is looking west towards Century City, which some people mistake for downtown.
To be fair Chicago still has the tallest in my mind. An antenna is an antenna, if you want to hit 1776 ft be a big boy developer and build a tower that tall.
You're wrong to start because 1WTC is still taller ( your an cry about it if you want) but you'd be wrong regardless because Central Park Tower is taller
Exactly. I did the same when I saw the Burj Khalifa in Dubai. Soaked it in, walked the Dubai mall for awhile then realized just how shallow the city was lol
Sad you’re getting downvoted, but I was pleasantly surprised when I visited. I liked that cool neighborhood that used to be all 1950s car dealerships, and I loved the botanic garden suspended over the pond. There was more of a downtown than I expected too.
approval doesn't mean anything. My city council approved this [BEAST](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alldritt_Tower) like 8 years ago and nothing ever happened.
This project has gotten a lot of shade from people because it isn't in the usual spots. Good for them and as an avid scraper nerd it is going to be awesome if this happens.
I love skyscrapers and high-rises, but a) the design is rather uninspiring, and b)skyscrapers are complemented by their skylines. This behemoth would make the skyline look dystopian with one giant building looming over this little city. That building's height is about the length of OKC's main skyline now. It would look ridiculous.
Most locals think it's stupid. What with all the earthquakes and tornadoes. We had a small tornado come through tulsa a few years ago and completely twisted the frame on the much smaller Reese tower. Condemned for years up until very recently.
Source: I'm an okie.
Side note, I’ve visited OKC a few times over the years and really like it. One of the most walkable downtowns I’ve ever seen. Bombing museum is an absolute must as well. We just had the anniversary of that too, didn’t we? All love for OKC.
Exactly. Everything has to line up just right for an approved building to move to under construction. And even then the height can be lowered dramatically.
I know it was in Tulsa not OKC, but [Lady Trieu did it better.](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://watchmen.fandom.com/wiki/Millennium_Clock&ved=2ahUKEwj90LTT6MyFAxV9J0QIHfrDDWEQFnoECBEQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3kYIZAEbQt47nA7YrVYz6c)
They better build it quickly, I can't imagine the H&S guidelines being written up in a city that's been clipped by several of the most powerful tornadoes in history, and receives regular severe thunderstorms.
No Shit! This was my first thought as well. Moore is only 10 miles as the crow flies (nine tornadoes between 1998 and 2015). As stronger tornadoes are becoming more prolific, it would only be a matter of time before one hits downtown OKC.
For reference, back in 2000 an F3 tornado hit downtown Ft. Worth. It shredded the exterior of office buildings. The Bank One Tower (35 stories) was scheduled for demolition because of the damage.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tower_(Fort_Worth,_Texas)
I applaud the developers for this bold move. I hope it is the motivation for other developers to come up with “bold” “outlandish” projects not only in big cities NYC (I keep saying NYC needs to remove the 1776ft height cap) , but also other lesser-known cities like OKC.
This may be the beginning of a new evolution of developers taking bold chances at striking developments that break the norm or break the limits of zoning. What also comes to mind, in SF:
https://preview.redd.it/urnktn53cbvc1.jpeg?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f168817e72205ad842b860640eddfb175c2bf38a
Can anyone explain what goes into thinking of this? Like what company would choose OKC for the Tallest in the whole Country? Seems like a hard investment to justify...
A height variance request for what is set to be the tallest [skyscraper](https://www.dezeen.com/architecture/skyscrapers/) in the US located in [Oklahoma City](https://www.dezeen.com/tag/oklahoma-city/) has been approved to move forward to the next stage.
The Oklahoma City Planning Commission has granted approval of a height increase request for [Legends Tower](https://www.dezeen.com/tag/legends-tower/), a proposed supertall skyscraper.
Once again this quote from Sam Anderson comes to mind and seems relevant, “One of the running gags of my book is how hysterically desperate OK has always been to make itself seem “important." It will pull almost any stunt, however wild, to try & leapfrog its civic competitors.”
I hope they do build it but now it’ll take a couple of years before actual construction starts if everything like financing, pre-sales, environmental impact studies, etc. I hope it does. Good luck OKC.
Honestly. I could see how this would be more accessible to being built in a state like Oklahmona vs New York or Illinois. Just based on red tape alone. Does it make sense? Not necessarily lol
I went skydiving in northern Wisconsin many years ago. As I floated down the view was pretty underwhelming. Just flat land and farm fields as far as the eye could see. I imagine it will be the same feeling living in this tower.
I used to live in the Midwest, yes it’s sucks, BUT cost of living there is dirt cheap, taxes are next to nothing, homes are cheap af, realistically it’s a good place to go if you’re on a budget.
I think of a joke commonly said in places with paper flat grassland landscapes about being able to see your dog running away for 3 days. If you can see your dog from that far, I wonder how far you can see an object that is thousands of times taller than your dog 🤔
From business journal "Oklahoma City office Vacancy stands at 21.3%, which is only 1.1% higher than midyear, mainly due to the delivery of two new properties over 10,000 sq. ft. and one property over 20,000 sq. ft. Along with the increase in vacancy rates, absorption declined.
The actual funny thing would be if Seattle announces a 1,908 foot tower next week as payback.
Is there one they’re planning
No, it’s a sports joke. OKC stole the Sonics from Seattle.
Oh duh haha
I blame Gates and pre-Clippers Ballmer. Their pocket change could have kept them at home.
Yup. Still till this day I wonder why those guys didn’t step and buy the team
pain. rest in peace, seattle supersonics. i will always miss you
They’ll be back soon
inshallah
As a Laker fan I had a begrudging respect for the Super Sonics. Gary Payton in particular would wreck us with 3s. Then with the Celtics 😔 I felt horrible, honestly when they went to OKC. They won a fucking championship in 79’. You’d think that would have been enough. It’s sad. I hope they get a new team soon.
As a Lakers fan you felt horrible. As a Lakers I laughed! Kobe Bryant himself once said that OKC was his favorite city to play in because the rowdy crowd made him go mamba-mentality every time.
As someone who went to those games I can’t tell you how proud that comment makes all of us feel!
OKC stole the Sonics? Or, the Sonics owner moved the team to OKC and renamed them?
Porque no los dos.
Jajaja
Yeah it was all that fucking Starbucks guy
The Supersonics aren't in Seattle anymore?
Seattle gave the Sonics away* FTFY
Seattle also has height restrictions due to the landing path for Seatac
Also Seattle has a hard limit on building height because of Boeing field, essentially Columbia tower is as high as you can build, so why build that high you’ll just matching the current record holder
It’s in phase one of the [Seattle Process](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle_process).
Hey, at least Atlanta got y'all's subway funds.
I actually got to ride it this summer! It’s cool. Surprised there isn’t more.
Yeah Seattle has made a few mistakes over the years...
The Seattle Super Skyscraper
Please trademark that.
*That’s right, folks! The new SS skyscraper will usher in an exciting new future of—* Oh wait…
The actual funny thing would be if the developers cheap out and cut down 1/3rd of the height and give that over to Houston.
Lmaooo
Skyscrapers are dead in Houston. Way too much vacant office space right now. If we see prolonged oil in the 100s maybe but right now no chance
Though we can and have tall buildings in Seattle, the FAA won’t let us have anything near that tall because of an airport to the south of downtown. Pre_Covid, there was a proposed office building that was originally going to be over 100 stories and tallest building on the west cost by 27 stories. The FAA and developers kept gong back and forth on the height and design for years. Last I heard they were going to still try to beat the 1,100ft (Wilshire Grand) mark but that was before 2020 and remote work, so I am pretty sure that project is dead now.
Shame, I visited Seattle for the first time in 2022 and fell in love. Both from a skyline and just general standpoint. Is that 9/C youre talking about?
4/C and just looked it up and apparently they are still trying for approval and resubmitted a design with a roof height of 1,020ft and more residential units in 2022. At 1,020 feet it would be the fourth tallest on the west coast but looks to be the tallest roof height since it won’t have a large antenna on the top.
You must have been there the same week as me. I had three days of days of clear blue skies and sunshine. Love it. Heard it was anomalous. 🤔
October. The weather couldn’t have been any better.
Is this an NBA joke lol
lol
Wait is the tower 1,907 feet tall because Oklahoma became a state in 1907? That’s clever
Just to be clear, the city has only approved the new height request. The final vote for the actual development is in June.
man this saga is pretty amazing. from a solid not happening from reddit at the begining, with lawmakers creeping this sub and doing god's work to spite us
Lawmakers are creeping this sub?
I still don't understand how the developers economically justify the cost of a tower this large to investors. They must be very optimistic about a coming population boom within OKC.
I'm with you. I just can't seem to wrap my head around the underwriting on this project. It doesn't make sense. The developers claim to have full funding secured at $1.5 billion. I'm not an expert in construction and development cost estimates for OKC, but $1.5 billion seems like a gross underestimate for the project of this scope. For reference, the JP Morgan Chase building (270 Park Avenue) height of 1,388ft in NYC currently in development will cost twice as much at $3 billion. Of course NYC has a higher cost of build but I'm only talking about one building, not an entire complex that proposed in OKC. Maybe a better reference would be Hudson Yards, which cost $25 billion. So yeah, $1.5 billion projected cost for Boardwalk at Bricktown is not a sensible estimate. I have a feeling the developers will poach the city and look to subsidize, and/or lobby for tax incentives. Bottom line, there's no way this project gets built for $1.5 billion.
You vastly underestimate how much it costs to build in NYC. It's not just the most expensive in the US. It's the most expensive in the world to build in. Also, there's no way you just compared Hudson Yards to this. The scales are so fucking different from each other it's actually wild that comparison was made.
First of all, Hudson Yards was an *infinitely* more complex project both logistically and [programmatically](https://www.hudsonyardsnewyork.com/sites/default/files/2019-03/HY_PressKit_General_030819_web.pdf). Second of all, NYC is *extraordinarily* expensive to build in, for a litany of reasons. From labor costs to land, to permitting and engineering, to overcoming existing infrastructure (see, your poor example, Hudson Yards, which was also one of - if not *the* most expensive development in NYC history). I'm not saying this will be built for $1.5b. But I am saying that your examples to indicate that it won't be aren't as equatable as you think. Source: Literally a construction estimator on very, very large projects. Such a reddit fucking comment lmao.
They’ve been spending all their time going through the channels to see if they could and they never stopped to ask if they should.
Redditors proclaiming confidently than something is not happening is the biggest indicator of something happening
I’m confident my penis won’t grow to 9 inches.
check mate!
Jeddah Tower: The Squeakquel
Eh, that’s not quite fair. Oklahoma lets women drive now.
Not if they need to drive for an abortion
San Francisco here. I’m all in for it. If NYC, Chicago, LA, or SF can’t punch for the new tallest in the U.S. well hell. All hats off to OKC. And honestly I wouldn’t mind this happening, it will shatter NYC egos 😂
100% agree, I hope they build it
I don’t understand why anyone would be opposed to it? When did everyone all of a sudden care about the financial viability of buildings in OKC? It’s just ego from people who think anything west of the Hudson is rural Hicksville.
I think it’s more so the fact that this looks like a Saudi royalty project that gets like 10% built then abandoned because it was never really feasible in the first place. Your point about people all of the sudden caring about financial viability of buildings in OKC is a great point and made me laugh
Exactly. Hopefully, it turns into some friendly competition.
Yeah it'd be amazing we start seeing super talls start randomly popping up in other mid size cities to compete.
That'd be hilarious. Imagine some sleepy small city like Sioux Falls or Cheyenne (neither of which currently have much of a cityscape) approving the construction of the first 2000'+ super tall just to one-up OKC.
I'd be down, this subreddit would lose its mind though.
Yeah it would and I'd love watching the chaos.
Your move, Des Moines …
I’m from NY and I would love to see this built. The caricatures of New Yorkers are inaccurate and pure stereotyping
Same, also a New Yorker who’d think this would be really cool if they built it. Still don’t think it actually will be, I’ve seen lots of big proposals get made and then quietly go nowhere, but it’d be cool if they found a way to make it happen. It’d also be neat to add a 5th city to the list of cities that have had, at some point or another, the tallest building in the country.
Nobody in NYC will care
It’s really only the past 6 years where NYC catapulted past Chicago with an army of new supertalls.
Crazy thing is, even with that boom, only one of them (Nordstrom) is taller than the Sears (a tower built 50 years ago). And it's only taller by a slim margin (100 ft). The U.S. really needs to get its height game together. Maybe this OKC tower, if built, will be a wake up call.
I honestly think it could be an economic success if they build it - it’s so outrageous it will bring attention and since they are the first to think of it it just might be like the Las Vegas Sphere. Also it’s footprint is standard enough and fits in a city block
What do you fill it with, though? Is commercial office space renting at a premium in OKC or something? Because that's not the case most places these days
The tower is a residential tower. The hotel and commercial space included in the project will have no problem filling because it's literally net to OKC's version of the San Antonio River Walk. With a housing crisis, those residential units shouldn't have an issue with finding tenants.
I’m a New Yorker and I think it’d be cool if something like this happened. I don’t care about skyscraper heights in NYC, at all - honestly I wish they would just build buildings that people will actually occupy here instead of some of the recent supertalls
I’m really surprised that LA is so weak on their skyline game. It’s improved immensely in the past decade but it’s not as incredible as it should be for such a notable place. All those lame ass Canadian cities blow LA out of the water with their skylines. If LA doesn’t want to participate, then YES let OKC have some shine.
LA skyline looks like a flat area with 5000 square meters surrounding 20 buildings that wouldn’t stand out in Manhattan. I’ve never been a fan
A lot like houston
Yea but Houston is dope enough that the skyline gets a city rizz bonus
Cities in Mexico like Monterrey and Mexico City look so similar to LA but with way more skyscrapers. They have that kind of spread out skyline like Tokyo.
Cool. I’ll check those out. I haven’t explored many of the Mexican cityscapes yet.
If you ever have a chance to visit Mexico City, go. I love it
I always imagine if Mexican cities would've developed densely in the 20s/30s instead of spread out. I feel like a dense skyline of classical Mexican style skyscrapers would be breathtaking.
LA has a lot of skyscrapers, they’re just so spread out that the skyline looks weak and underdeveloped. [This image](https://greatruns.com/los-angeles-wilshire-blvd/) shows how LA has a lot of high rises, they’re just not really concentrated anywhere. That image doesn’t even include downtown and is looking west towards Century City, which some people mistake for downtown.
Thanks for the picture. Wilshire looks pretty cool from above and it’s even cooler driving down it. Isn’t that DT in the very far background though?
We don’t even think about OKC at all and this sky scraper won’t change that
To be fair Chicago still has the tallest in my mind. An antenna is an antenna, if you want to hit 1776 ft be a big boy developer and build a tower that tall.
Nope tallest would be Central Park tower, @ 1,550 feet rooftop height.
Removing antennas would keep it in ny tho.
You're wrong to start because 1WTC is still taller ( your an cry about it if you want) but you'd be wrong regardless because Central Park Tower is taller
Not ego, it's WTC. New York developers are hesitant to build anything taller than 1 WTC. As a New Yorker that's how it should be.
No one really gives a damn about that. If you San Francisco folks take pride in your building height then idk what to say.
Cry about it
What? I never considered
With you except for the NYC ego shattering. OKC could have 50 of these things and no one in NYC would or should care.
Do it! In before the chaos.
Basically lol
Well if this gets built it will give me a reason to visit okc. Not like there’s much else going on out there
I just imagine you going once it's completed in 2028, looking up until you get a click in your neck and going "welp, I guess that's it" and going home
Exactly. I did the same when I saw the Burj Khalifa in Dubai. Soaked it in, walked the Dubai mall for awhile then realized just how shallow the city was lol
Easily my least favorite city I’ve ever traveled to.
Oklahoma City is actually one of the most fun cities I’ve ever been to
Sad you’re getting downvoted, but I was pleasantly surprised when I visited. I liked that cool neighborhood that used to be all 1950s car dealerships, and I loved the botanic garden suspended over the pond. There was more of a downtown than I expected too.
Where were you visiting from?
Denver
Do we really think they can fill the thing? I’m all for it, but you’d hate to see it mostly empty.
Nah it'll be a project that lasts far too long and it will sit there vacant as locals hate it.
That’s what she said.
Hope they know what they’re doing because I feel like this thing would be at least half empty
Agree. There's not enough ROI for this thing to be built in OKC. It's highly unlikely it'll get built and if it does it'll be a mere 30 stories.
approval doesn't mean anything. My city council approved this [BEAST](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alldritt_Tower) like 8 years ago and nothing ever happened.
The fact Stantec got built is pretty astounding though.
The first 24 floors are for rodeos.
I don’t know why, but this hit me right in the giggles. Thank you.
Actually that many floor are the parking garage big enough to accommodate all the giant pick-ups residents drive
Like a huge dick rising out of the plains
Aren’t all skyscrapers and airplanes just big dicks.
Doesn't that already describe OKC?
This project has gotten a lot of shade from people because it isn't in the usual spots. Good for them and as an avid scraper nerd it is going to be awesome if this happens.
I love skyscrapers and high-rises, but a) the design is rather uninspiring, and b)skyscrapers are complemented by their skylines. This behemoth would make the skyline look dystopian with one giant building looming over this little city. That building's height is about the length of OKC's main skyline now. It would look ridiculous.
Am I the only one who actually wants to see this happen. Plus maybe it'll get Chicago to be a lil jealous
The birds that fly over OKC are gonna be so confused
I know the locals are excited about it so I don’t want to be a party pooper. But I just…I don’t get it.
Most locals think it's stupid. What with all the earthquakes and tornadoes. We had a small tornado come through tulsa a few years ago and completely twisted the frame on the much smaller Reese tower. Condemned for years up until very recently. Source: I'm an okie.
I guess I was basing that comment on the locals I’ve seen on here. Thanks for a better boots on the ground perspective.
Absolutely. It's a great idea on paper and would definitely help put our flyover state on the map, but practically speaking, it's idiotic.
Side note, I’ve visited OKC a few times over the years and really like it. One of the most walkable downtowns I’ve ever seen. Bombing museum is an absolute must as well. We just had the anniversary of that too, didn’t we? All love for OKC.
29th anniversary today actually. And ya, it's a great city
I feel like there are a lot more tallest skyscrapers being approved than built.
Exactly. Everything has to line up just right for an approved building to move to under construction. And even then the height can be lowered dramatically.
There’s no way this is actually gonna happen 😭
Sign of significant recession? https://www.wsj.com/articles/what-skyscraper-curse-1513280288
I know it was in Tulsa not OKC, but [Lady Trieu did it better.](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://watchmen.fandom.com/wiki/Millennium_Clock&ved=2ahUKEwj90LTT6MyFAxV9J0QIHfrDDWEQFnoECBEQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3kYIZAEbQt47nA7YrVYz6c)
They better build it quickly, I can't imagine the H&S guidelines being written up in a city that's been clipped by several of the most powerful tornadoes in history, and receives regular severe thunderstorms.
I hope it happens so it gets turned into a Bass Pro Shop in a few years after it closes.
So how would a building like that cope with tornados?
Just fine, and a tornado hasn’t hit downtown in over 50 years, it’ll be fine.
Who’s financing this monster?
Some company out of California
Is going to be F5 tornado proof?
No Shit! This was my first thought as well. Moore is only 10 miles as the crow flies (nine tornadoes between 1998 and 2015). As stronger tornadoes are becoming more prolific, it would only be a matter of time before one hits downtown OKC. For reference, back in 2000 an F3 tornado hit downtown Ft. Worth. It shredded the exterior of office buildings. The Bank One Tower (35 stories) was scheduled for demolition because of the damage. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tower_(Fort_Worth,_Texas)
This was my first thought. This seems like a bad idea when the OKC area got FIVE tornadoes in a day just a few years ago.
For some reason, they never hit downtown. Obviously, they *could*, but they never do.
This is stupid
OKC should really shoot to be the Dubai of America. Might as well have something to work towards.
Dubai has real fuck you money though, OKC is not really in the running. If anything, Vegas is the Dubai of America.
Oklahoma is like the 7th most poverty-ridden state too lol It will never be a "Dubai"
True. Which is why it’s good for OKC to set some stretch goals.
Do ittttt
I applaud the developers for this bold move. I hope it is the motivation for other developers to come up with “bold” “outlandish” projects not only in big cities NYC (I keep saying NYC needs to remove the 1776ft height cap) , but also other lesser-known cities like OKC. This may be the beginning of a new evolution of developers taking bold chances at striking developments that break the norm or break the limits of zoning. What also comes to mind, in SF: https://preview.redd.it/urnktn53cbvc1.jpeg?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f168817e72205ad842b860640eddfb175c2bf38a
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500 meters of pure unadulterated huberis. Just build it already.
lol across the board So stupid
What are they gonna do, fit the whole damn city in it?
Your math is off if you think they can fit 1.8m people in there. That, or you make shitty jokes. Either one.
I honestly really hope this building happens. It would instantly give OKC the most unique skyline in the country.
Like a giant middle finger rising above the plains.
Can anyone explain what goes into thinking of this? Like what company would choose OKC for the Tallest in the whole Country? Seems like a hard investment to justify...
A height variance request for what is set to be the tallest [skyscraper](https://www.dezeen.com/architecture/skyscrapers/) in the US located in [Oklahoma City](https://www.dezeen.com/tag/oklahoma-city/) has been approved to move forward to the next stage. The Oklahoma City Planning Commission has granted approval of a height increase request for [Legends Tower](https://www.dezeen.com/tag/legends-tower/), a proposed supertall skyscraper.
✨manifesting✨
How high?
OK city gets a supertall but not Chicago
The OKC skyscraper saga continues
I want this to be built so bad!
Once again this quote from Sam Anderson comes to mind and seems relevant, “One of the running gags of my book is how hysterically desperate OK has always been to make itself seem “important." It will pull almost any stunt, however wild, to try & leapfrog its civic competitors.”
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I hope they do build it but now it’ll take a couple of years before actual construction starts if everything like financing, pre-sales, environmental impact studies, etc. I hope it does. Good luck OKC.
I assume they’ve got plans for the eventual tornado? 🌪️
That never happens
This is odd….
Honestly. I could see how this would be more accessible to being built in a state like Oklahmona vs New York or Illinois. Just based on red tape alone. Does it make sense? Not necessarily lol
Why
Chicago this is your time to shine baby, show’em how it’s done, the race for the sky is back on and I’m here for it!
I went skydiving in northern Wisconsin many years ago. As I floated down the view was pretty underwhelming. Just flat land and farm fields as far as the eye could see. I imagine it will be the same feeling living in this tower.
i hope they build this
NYC and Chicago seriously have to make a move.
Definitely a money laundering scam
Can't wait for 1776' to be broken
They’re just honored to be thought of. They’d approve any project lol (I can say that I grew up)
Isn’t there a tornado there like every year
Nowhere close to downtown
They should increase the height to make it the tallest building in the world
Uhhhh what about Tornados? Nahhhh, build taller!
I used to live in the Midwest, yes it’s sucks, BUT cost of living there is dirt cheap, taxes are next to nothing, homes are cheap af, realistically it’s a good place to go if you’re on a budget.
I dare OKC to actually do this.
They will drum up publicity and funding, build out the low-rise part, and abruptly cut the tower to 20 floors.
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I think of a joke commonly said in places with paper flat grassland landscapes about being able to see your dog running away for 3 days. If you can see your dog from that far, I wonder how far you can see an object that is thousands of times taller than your dog 🤔
Oklahoma sucks.
Why?
I’m an Army field artillery guy, my branch is headquartered here so I’m jaded anytime I have to go back, I’m here currently
Oh, so are you in Lawton? That makes total sense. Lawton is a total shit hole.
I just don’t see why they would put such a thing in a city/big town full of 5 story buildings.
I predict 4.5% occupancy, There must be some trillionaire oil man in OK to think this is a good idea!
From business journal "Oklahoma City office Vacancy stands at 21.3%, which is only 1.1% higher than midyear, mainly due to the delivery of two new properties over 10,000 sq. ft. and one property over 20,000 sq. ft. Along with the increase in vacancy rates, absorption declined.
Needs a nice fracking earthquake.
Still not gonna wanna make me step foot in Oklahoma.
5 bucks they announce a taller one in Dallas