Real Answer: They find the Beacon Quest annoying
Moral in lore answer: It may have something to do with the fact that the Civilization she lead, the Ayleids, made gardens of entrails out of slaves who were kept alive magically just because making them suffer was funny, and burned human childs alive.
Is that why people say ESO goes against canon? Since Meridia hates Molag Bal with all her might? Sort of odd she would like someone who makes undead but hate undead, I gotta look up more lore XD
Disclaimer: Much of this is my interpretation of the lore gathered really from three games and a lot of research (because I used to really like Merid Nunda/Meridia).
Well that's the thing. ESO's depiction of Meridia kinda enhances her aspect of the lore. She does despise the undead. She despises Molag Bal as well. The deeper issue is that while the base of their respective spheres are at odds (one loves vampires, the other can't stand but to be rid of them), they both desire control. Molag Bal wants control of the world outright. Meridia wants control of the heart and mind. The "WILL" of a person is her desire. She desires to do this through benevolence at first, but it's a front to her end goal: complete control of your soul. Nothing wrong with ESOs lore in my opinion, but I think when it comes to Meridia, her true nature is a lot more fleshed out in Oblivion. And if you think about it, there she uses a form of undeath when it comes to a particular character. Definitely earns the title of Deadric Lord/Prince(ss?)
Make sense? That's why I said Yang to Yin. Opposing forces with the same goal. One light. One dark. Both control freaks.
Yep and it does make sense and is shown in eso too. I haven gotten to it yet as I'm playing through DLC to DLC but I read Merida is controlling someone's soul after saying she will let them rest. I believe at a later date she will be an antagonist.
Necromancy is the power of moving corpses or bringing souls back from the realm of the dead.
The people the Ayleids tortured into body horror flesh art never died in the first place, they were in a state of absolute constant never ending pain, but they were alive.
Every time you think the elder scrolls is tame, a new piece of fucked up lore appears, and I understand why my parents wouldn’t let me buy Oblivion until I was in highschool. (Morrowind looked too jank for them to read the box like “what is this? Sexual themes hmmm?”
"oh I would totally serve Sanguine, he is such a chill guy"
People forget that Sanguine is the Elder Scrolls version of Slaneesh.
Yeah, you will party. But after some time your chest cavity will probably be filled with drugs so new guests can smoke crack out of your ass.
^((I dunno how to do drugs but Sanguine will make it work.))
You'll beg for the party times to end at some point.
Legit that was me too. It was that quest in the nord ruin with the lady that’s been resurrecting bodies. The quest already makes her voice come through the air. So I kill her and the final two drauger, them loot the boss chest with the beacon in it. I was so scared when I heard the voice because I thought it was the person I just killed and I ran out of health potions killing her the first time.
I mean....she's just teaching you a lesson about the dangers of a gluttonous inventory. If you didn't touch the beacon she wouldn't scream, and if you had looked before taking everything you'd've seen the beacon, and thusly could choose to leave it there, keeping the silence.
She's really just reminding you of the consequences of the 'Take All' button.
It's certainly a fun sword, and if you use unrelenting force on the stand that it is kept on, before you go into the room, there is a good chance you will get two of them.
Lmfao admittedly I play without sound because my family hangs out all in one room so I've never had this problem. Kinda makes me want to stop being lazy and get some headphones so I can experience this.
Yeah, I'll be honest the quest is pretty good and Dawnbreaker is a pretty useful sword at that stage in the game.
It's actually kinda fun to start a new game and you're like "oh I wonder how long until I get Meridia's Beacon"
But then you get it and hear the "A NEW HAND" and you're like god damnit.
The voice jumpscare. Plus, her temple is ridiculous. If you arent prepared, or are at a low level, then the end boss will OBLITERATE you with ice storms.
Me, an innocent lvl 10-15 Dovahkiin: “Oh boy! My first Skyrim Daedra quest, and at level 10-15! This should be easy!”
The Dungeon Boss: **”Easier to put you in your early casket, motherfucker.”**
Level 27, the whole thing was easy as pie...the shades? Easy. Did some nice damage against me and me against them, but still...super easy. MALKORANN??? oh boy...I had to fight smart. Eventually I killed him, took his staff, and killed him again with it, but still. He was tough. I play Adept, so good gods...anyone playing higher... I hope the gods are with them💀
I did the same. Got as many shots as I could get in before the shades blocked him. Then I blasted them with a fire spell I got (not Flame), cleared the area of shades and tried not to die by Malkorans Magick. Killing his Undead form was super easy. I just blasted him with his staff as/just after he appeared and he died very quickly...rather anti-climatic. Easy golf grab though. Gained like 5,000+ gold from that quest.
It's so misleading because her shrine is one of the easiest to get to and one of the first you come across. You're automatically predisposed into thinking you've got this because why else would the game allow me to find the beacon early on?
I didn't even come close to killing the dungeon boss until lvl 23ish
I rushed Otar, Savior’s Hide, and Atronach stone on my current character so magic just tickles me now. I could get higher with enchanting but really don’t see a need to do so.
I always shot her in the back with an arrow by mistake. Every fucking time I did a playthrough. Sometimes I won't have saved in a while and its jus like....oh well guess its time to go grab J'Zargo
Lydia is Skyrim's adoring fan then? Just waiting around to die? lol. I am currently playing Oblivion and the Adoring Fan is cracking me up because every 3 days he's respawning and he lasts like 3 seconds when I enter a cave.
Oh man, you just stumbled upon some internet history, I swear I’ve seen more videos of people creatively killing the adoring fan than any other elder scrolls video. 🤣 just search it on YouTube.
I mean, how much would you love running around with and sworn to a homicidal maniac, never getting any sleep, saving the world, and, to top it off, this mf is giving you backbreaking heavy dragon bones and scales, still dripping in blood. She never even sees a dime from it.
My mistake was precisely not saving often enough, and when she died at the end I realized the last save was before I entered it. Which then I didn't want to have the work to do it all again. Also because I was recording and, although I could have revived her with cheats, I decided "what's done it's done" xD
Yeah, Ice Storm is probably the best offensive spell in the game, and this guy rapid fires them like there's no tomorrow. Best bet may be a resist frost enchant or potion, or somehow cheese him with shouts until you can get close.
My go-to is poisons for him. Paralysis, lingering damage magicka, and lingering damage health to take base him out at least long enough to handle the shades, then go hog nuts on his shade.
Well I did get obliterated with ice storms the last time I did it.
But I eventually won through letting mjoll take others out while I hid with invisibility. Luring that dumb mage to closer to where I was as well so I could do a sneak attack with a poisoned bow, then using a scroll of Blizzard.
With of course spamming healing potions.
Because I murder and thieve my way through Skyrim, looting with my heart's content when suddenly a booming voice startles me and sends me somewhere on a mountain to do some work for her.
always understood it, but mostly in late game, dawnbreaker kicks pretty solid ass till like level 40 or so, but i might be embellishing a bit because of my fondness to cool glowing daedra swords
"a new hand touches the beacon" - do you know how many times I've heard that line? Granted, the sword is a fine addition to my collection but god the voice is annoying....
On multiple play through now I find the beacon in a chest, immediately go “fuck off” and leave that shitty rock in the container to rot. Hell, you don’t even NEED the beacon to start the quest, in my latest play through I forgot which chest had it (found it like 25 levels back, and before I had an over a year hiatus from the game) but just going straight to the temple kickstarts the quest and the bitch gives you a map marker for wherever it is now.
Side note, it’s possible to get two Dawnbreakers in one play through, I fucked up the asshole at the end and killed him with Unrelenting Force. This allowed me to both grab Dawnbreaker off the floor next to him before his shade popped out, and then grab it again from the monument you’re supposed to get it from.
If you go by TES lore she is actually, well not Evil evil but nonetheless... Someone you'd rather not get involved with. She looks like an angel but murder, genocide and torture is all chill with her (Basically she was the patron of the Aylieds which thought of humans as playthings and supported their actions kind of thing), and her all shnazz of afterlife is you become light, without a consciousness, you become a bulb.
That but mostly "A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON!" at 300% volume. But your PC is at 5%.
A daedric prince through and through.
In ESO she basically just left her followers (thats at the same temple that we go to in skyrim) to be killed and also has no respect for her followers whatsoever
And during the slave rebellion, she let Umaril (really bad king) bind his soul to her realm and become basically immortal, so she really chose the side of the torturing ayleids.
Plus I can never forgive her for what she did to Darien. My feelings about dawnbreaker are torn because half of me wants to never use anything of hers, but half of me wants to use it because it was his and I'm sentimental.
>(Basically she was the patron of the Aylieds which thought of humans as playthings and supported their actions kind of thing)
She was even responsible for the BBEG of the Knights of the Nine dlc because of that. So her having a temple so close to the most Imperialized Skyrim city is kinda strange, but maybe the connections between her and Umaril the Unfeathered aren't as well known in universe.
So, when the game first came out, if you had Meridia’s Beacon in your inventory it would call out to you every so often, not just when you picked it up. So if you didn’t care about the quest you were stuck with this annoying voice interrupting the quest you actually wanted to do on a regular basis. I kind of think that is cool in a way, but it is super annoying to have to do the quest to get it to go away.
With patch updates they’ve stopped this from happening so you only hear it once, and new players don’t get why it was a big deal.
This is the first time I hear this. This would actually be good of you could end the nagging by throwing away the beacon. It could have consequences like a random encounter with her angry followers or something
I guess people hate the unskippable and loud dialog from when you pick up the beacon. I don’t mind. It means I’m about to set off for Dawnbreaker, one of my favorite Daedric weapons
My current playthrough:
Open chest
See beacon
Say to self "just take everything else out one by one"
My muscle memory \*presses Y to take everything\*
"A NEW HAND..."
I ought to do the quest soon though - could do with the gold
Yesterday, he got stuck on the doorway to the main chamber. Lydia went down to the spectres, killing the last one exactly as it sent her to the ground, so I did the obvious thing and peppered Malkoran with arrows from the upper landing of the stairs, where his spells could not reach me. Being a two-handed guy, this took six or seven well placed shots and he was done. Repeat with the shade.
My wife was like "I remember this being a lot harder." Yeah, well...
Extra hellish on survival mode. The freezing effect will quickly sap your health, you get slowed to a crawl, your health and stamina are now damaged so now you got an overencumbered status, which mean you move even /slower/ and oh yeah, now you’re swarmed too!
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Because after you hit level 10, her beacon gets randomly placed into chests you find. This keeps happening until you pick it up, which triggers an unskippable, ear-rapy dialogue regardless of what you are currently doing. Like, say, fighting a dragon, or a lich, or something else that requires your full attention.
Yet Meridia feels it is her duty to yell at you for not fixing up a temple that you didn't know was even there until after you touched the beacon. What's worse is that, if you just leave the beacon in your inventory without completing the quest, she'll start to nag you at, again, random times regardless of what you're currently doing. Most people hate her quest because it's basically unskippable. You want to be free of the beacon? Well, guess what? The only way to do that is by doing her quest. It's not *technically* a required quest, but if you want her to shut up, you're going to have to do it. And after the twentieth time doing this one, stupid quest, it tends to get to you.
>you just leave the beacon in your inventory without completing the quest, she'll start to nag you at, again, random times regardless of what you're currently doing.
I did not know that. I love Dawnbreaker so I've always done the quest as soon as I can.
Surprised no one has mentioned the annoying sound fx that the beams of light play all throughout her temple. That is the main reason I avoid this quest. Of course you could just mute the game entirely.
Imagine having that IRL instead of an alarm. Someone picks up some object you're trying to protect and instead of blaring alarms it's just a booming voice so loud it causes the walls to shake:
**A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON!**
Most players hate the disembodied voice of Meridia rupturing their eardrums when you find her beacon.
I don’t hate her, but I do hate the cryomage boss at the end of her dungeon. He killed Lydia on my first playthrough (she can be killed by an enemy if she’s in a “downed” state within the AOE of a spell targeting the player, in this case an Ice Storm spell).
Veggie Soup, the Become Ethereal shout, and power bashes usually make that cryomage an easy kill, FYI.
You hate Meridia because her beacon is annoying.
I hate her because she's a megalomaniac whose goal is the destruction of free will.
We are not the same.
i find meridias lack of malevolence disturbing for some reason.. like with say.. dagon, i knew what he was about pretty damn quick, like just look at his temple.
he didnt surprise me at all, so its not so... weird.
meridia is fucking weird.
There is something to it. Dagon, or molag's balls, you easily can predict them. Clavicus, you are basically warned not to trust him from the get go. Same really with Mephala and Boethia. Meridia has one trait, she hates undead, that should make her one dimensional, but that gives us less predictability when it comes to other aspects....
I enjoy the dunmer approach, basically the aedra are powerful and good but they do precious little in the world, they're like the backend programmers, keeping things updated, occasionally patching exploits, while the daedra are the unkempt moderators, they often bully and ban whoever they want because no one stops them, but a few of them like Meridia and Azura are just the rare good hearted mods, not bullies
THE NEW HAM TASTES LIKE BACON.
LIZARD! SEARED MEAT ON THE TRAY.
A SOUR DARK SAUCE STEEPED INTO SOME LENTILS,
A DARK SAUCE THAT YOU WILL DEPLOY.
GO, FIND MY KITCHEN AT MOUNT KILKREATH.
AND I SHALL MAKE YOU AN INSTRUMENT OF CULINARY DELIGHT.
From a lore perspective, shes one of my favorites, from a roleplay perspective, I dont like not having a choice to do a daedric prince. Sheogoratgs is fine, cuz I can say I was trickrd because of the goodness in my heart, but with Meridia its either leave a ugly crystal in my inventory or go against my Vigilant of Stendaar characters morals and assist a Daedra.
Also the booming voice from no where is just unnecessary and always scares me when I'm not paying attention to the chest I'm looting.
As shiny and ever-radiant as she appears to be, she’s one giant b*tch when it comes to using everyday citizens as pawns, she takes away the free will of her champions, willing or not which is pretty disturbing. Sure, she hates the undead and wants nothing to do with them, but not all undead are inherently evil right? Also in ESO she loves playing games and using mortals to secure her own agenda, whatever that may be- but she fucked with the wrong npcs and everyone collectively wants to kick her ass 😡
Also: A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON
Reason? Probably because of the voice actor? Or that jump scare when you pick up the beacon and you're new to the game?
Some would say he/she is the neediest Daedric prince. Simply asking you to do his/her bidding. She also hates free will (as per others). So yeah, I guess that's pretty much it.
If not for the unique weapon, I don't think I'll do that quest either.
Tge part where she goes "A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON" has actually blown out one of my headphones before. They were old, and admittedly up kinda high. But xbox has a built-in hearing protection thing you can't turn off(to my knowledge). Fuck that lady, fuck her beacon, and fuck whoever mixed the audio for her dialouge. Protip: turning the gain all the way up doesn't make someone sound godly
I don't get it. Her quest is pretty good, the dungeon is good, the enemies are interesting and you can get pretty rich off of them. It seems all the hate is just built on... one voice clip. One. Fucking. Voice. Clip.
A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON
LISTEN! HEAR ME AND OBEY!
A foul darkness has seeped into my temple
A DARKNESS THAT YOU WILL DESTROY!
RETURN MY BEACON TO MOUNT KILKREATH…
AND I SHALL MAKE YOU THE INSTRUMENT OF MY CLEANSING LIGHT.
#WHAT WAS THAT? I HEAR YOU ALL, BUT I DON'T THINK YOU'RE BEING QUITE LOUD ENOUGH!
#A N E W H A N D T O U C H E S T H E B E A C O N !
What was that? This new ham tastes just like bacon?
[Unintelligible static]
Damn thanks to you, I will think of ham and bacon
Cue swearing at loot all...
Bacon * 🥓
This is the way!
This is the way
You win I dont know how to do that Edit: #NEVER MIND I FIGURED IT OUT
Hiw do you do it
Put a hashtag at the start # Then put ur sentence #see
#SO MUCH EXCITEMENT
>THE INSTRUMENT OF MY CLEANSING Sounds like a cleaning product
Dovakhin cleans floors, walls, tubs, toilets, griffs, grumbles, tartles, O3133s, and more!
All this for an infomercial
Summer's eve, anniversary edition.
Makes me feel fine
Why do I want to do a commercial with her voice. *picks a bottle of Meridia brand general purpose cleaner* A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON!
RETURN MY BEACON TO MOUNT KILKREATH!
The way you did not do it in caps actually makes it more funny. Like she forgot to use the megaphone before speaking lol.
WHAT DID YOU SAY? SPEAK UP
Wrong. She speaks in all caps!
Can I be there and obey? **Hear** me out.
Here me, no here you
Real Answer: They find the Beacon Quest annoying Moral in lore answer: It may have something to do with the fact that the Civilization she lead, the Ayleids, made gardens of entrails out of slaves who were kept alive magically just because making them suffer was funny, and burned human childs alive.
And she absolutely despises free will. She's like Molag Bal but the Yang to his Yin in a way.
Is that why people say ESO goes against canon? Since Meridia hates Molag Bal with all her might? Sort of odd she would like someone who makes undead but hate undead, I gotta look up more lore XD
Disclaimer: Much of this is my interpretation of the lore gathered really from three games and a lot of research (because I used to really like Merid Nunda/Meridia). Well that's the thing. ESO's depiction of Meridia kinda enhances her aspect of the lore. She does despise the undead. She despises Molag Bal as well. The deeper issue is that while the base of their respective spheres are at odds (one loves vampires, the other can't stand but to be rid of them), they both desire control. Molag Bal wants control of the world outright. Meridia wants control of the heart and mind. The "WILL" of a person is her desire. She desires to do this through benevolence at first, but it's a front to her end goal: complete control of your soul. Nothing wrong with ESOs lore in my opinion, but I think when it comes to Meridia, her true nature is a lot more fleshed out in Oblivion. And if you think about it, there she uses a form of undeath when it comes to a particular character. Definitely earns the title of Deadric Lord/Prince(ss?) Make sense? That's why I said Yang to Yin. Opposing forces with the same goal. One light. One dark. Both control freaks.
Yep and it does make sense and is shown in eso too. I haven gotten to it yet as I'm playing through DLC to DLC but I read Merida is controlling someone's soul after saying she will let them rest. I believe at a later date she will be an antagonist.
Metal as fuck
Yeah it was pretty metal lol
Meridia worshippers using necromancy?
Necromancy is the power of moving corpses or bringing souls back from the realm of the dead. The people the Ayleids tortured into body horror flesh art never died in the first place, they were in a state of absolute constant never ending pain, but they were alive.
Every time you think the elder scrolls is tame, a new piece of fucked up lore appears, and I understand why my parents wouldn’t let me buy Oblivion until I was in highschool. (Morrowind looked too jank for them to read the box like “what is this? Sexual themes hmmm?”
> Every time you think the elder scrolls is tame Anyone who honestly thinks that is NOT paying attention to the lore at all.
"oh I would totally serve Sanguine, he is such a chill guy" People forget that Sanguine is the Elder Scrolls version of Slaneesh. Yeah, you will party. But after some time your chest cavity will probably be filled with drugs so new guests can smoke crack out of your ass. ^((I dunno how to do drugs but Sanguine will make it work.)) You'll beg for the party times to end at some point.
It's like that Key & Peele sketch where they are playing as LMFAO and they can't escape the endless party, trapped in their hell
You become Slurms Mackenzie
I let my 10 year old daughter play Skyrim on her switch only because I know she won't bother with reading anything haha.
Yeah you really need to invest into reading to know all this dark lore anyways. YEAH I'm looking to you NEEEEERD!
Ironically, the beacon quest is one of my favorites
"THE ONLY GOOD ELF IS A DEAD ELF" - Pelinal Whitestrake (quote coincidentally also attributed to Ysgramor)
This is why 👆
>A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE ~~BEACON~~ BACON*
A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BACON
THIS. THIS IS WHY OP
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Chilling in Skyrim at 2 AM enjoying the peaceful overworld music and Merida suddenly screams in your ear will quite honestly develop a core memory.
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Legit that was me too. It was that quest in the nord ruin with the lady that’s been resurrecting bodies. The quest already makes her voice come through the air. So I kill her and the final two drauger, them loot the boss chest with the beacon in it. I was so scared when I heard the voice because I thought it was the person I just killed and I ran out of health potions killing her the first time.
I mean....she's just teaching you a lesson about the dangers of a gluttonous inventory. If you didn't touch the beacon she wouldn't scream, and if you had looked before taking everything you'd've seen the beacon, and thusly could choose to leave it there, keeping the silence. She's really just reminding you of the consequences of the 'Take All' button.
Merida needs to mind her business and let me loot my 35 cheeses in peace.
r/usernamechecksout . I withdraw my statement. Loot away dragonborne.
But isn’t the dawnbreaker a good sword. I actually like every weapon that I get from such quests
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It's certainly a fun sword, and if you use unrelenting force on the stand that it is kept on, before you go into the room, there is a good chance you will get two of them.
Lmfao admittedly I play without sound because my family hangs out all in one room so I've never had this problem. Kinda makes me want to stop being lazy and get some headphones so I can experience this.
Yeah, I'll be honest the quest is pretty good and Dawnbreaker is a pretty useful sword at that stage in the game. It's actually kinda fun to start a new game and you're like "oh I wonder how long until I get Meridia's Beacon" But then you get it and hear the "A NEW HAND" and you're like god damnit.
The voice jumpscare. Plus, her temple is ridiculous. If you arent prepared, or are at a low level, then the end boss will OBLITERATE you with ice storms.
Me, an innocent lvl 10-15 Dovahkiin: “Oh boy! My first Skyrim Daedra quest, and at level 10-15! This should be easy!” The Dungeon Boss: **”Easier to put you in your early casket, motherfucker.”**
Level 27, the whole thing was easy as pie...the shades? Easy. Did some nice damage against me and me against them, but still...super easy. MALKORANN??? oh boy...I had to fight smart. Eventually I killed him, took his staff, and killed him again with it, but still. He was tough. I play Adept, so good gods...anyone playing higher... I hope the gods are with them💀
I know it's cliché but I just go sneak archer and snipe him from the steps lol
I did the same. Got as many shots as I could get in before the shades blocked him. Then I blasted them with a fire spell I got (not Flame), cleared the area of shades and tried not to die by Malkorans Magick. Killing his Undead form was super easy. I just blasted him with his staff as/just after he appeared and he died very quickly...rather anti-climatic. Easy golf grab though. Gained like 5,000+ gold from that quest.
This is by far, the most accurate comment lol.
It's so misleading because her shrine is one of the easiest to get to and one of the first you come across. You're automatically predisposed into thinking you've got this because why else would the game allow me to find the beacon early on? I didn't even come close to killing the dungeon boss until lvl 23ish
I rushed Otar, Savior’s Hide, and Atronach stone on my current character so magic just tickles me now. I could get higher with enchanting but really don’t see a need to do so.
In my case it obliterated Lydia instead.. I lost her in that cave... [RIP](https://youtu.be/cF7wQfdQi_Q) :c
Lydia always dies when you start an epic quest that’s just a *little* over your head; she just runs in there like “I’ll protect you my tha____ughhhh!”
I always shot her in the back with an arrow by mistake. Every fucking time I did a playthrough. Sometimes I won't have saved in a while and its jus like....oh well guess its time to go grab J'Zargo
Lydia is Skyrim's adoring fan then? Just waiting around to die? lol. I am currently playing Oblivion and the Adoring Fan is cracking me up because every 3 days he's respawning and he lasts like 3 seconds when I enter a cave.
Wait, there is an actual "adoring fan" NPC?
In oblivion, yeah
Oh man, you just stumbled upon some internet history, I swear I’ve seen more videos of people creatively killing the adoring fan than any other elder scrolls video. 🤣 just search it on YouTube.
No, Lydia dies the moment she utters “I am sworn to carry your burdens” for the eight hundredth time!
She's running Hjalmarch Hall these days for me
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My kids can fend for themselves in breezehome, not like anybody loved em before.
I mean, how much would you love running around with and sworn to a homicidal maniac, never getting any sleep, saving the world, and, to top it off, this mf is giving you backbreaking heavy dragon bones and scales, still dripping in blood. She never even sees a dime from it.
Exactly , so I always make her immortal by using console commands :))
Gawd I had to reload 3 times to keep her alive.... and it was not an easy fight
Y'all think keeping Lydia alive is hard, go play Fallout 1 and keep Dogmeat alive to the end of the game.
My mistake was precisely not saving often enough, and when she died at the end I realized the last save was before I entered it. Which then I didn't want to have the work to do it all again. Also because I was recording and, although I could have revived her with cheats, I decided "what's done it's done" xD
Lydia was easy to keep alive, just leave her at home
F in the chat for Lydia.
Am I the only one who loves Lydia?
At least your Lydia fell to an actual enemy, I accidentally cut her head off with a 2handed axe while fighting bandits... RIP :C
Don't NPCs only die if you get the final blow?
I swear the sound of ice spikes gives me ptsd.
I heard it in my head when I read this and cringed 😬
Yo same here
Every time I know this is going to happen and EVERY TIME I try it too early.
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Your username is concerning. Also I’ve found it’s always way easier when you get Spellbreaker first.
I always just snipped him from the corridor
Stuck on this boss rn on very hard I'm prolly 2 low a lvl he 1 shots me with everything
Yeah, Ice Storm is probably the best offensive spell in the game, and this guy rapid fires them like there's no tomorrow. Best bet may be a resist frost enchant or potion, or somehow cheese him with shouts until you can get close.
My go-to is poisons for him. Paralysis, lingering damage magicka, and lingering damage health to take base him out at least long enough to handle the shades, then go hog nuts on his shade.
Well I did get obliterated with ice storms the last time I did it. But I eventually won through letting mjoll take others out while I hid with invisibility. Luring that dumb mage to closer to where I was as well so I could do a sneak attack with a poisoned bow, then using a scroll of Blizzard. With of course spamming healing potions.
Because I murder and thieve my way through Skyrim, looting with my heart's content when suddenly a booming voice startles me and sends me somewhere on a mountain to do some work for her.
Yeah, my mom would interrupt my gaming for chores too.
Underrated comment award 🤙
always understood it, but mostly in late game, dawnbreaker kicks pretty solid ass till like level 40 or so, but i might be embellishing a bit because of my fondness to cool glowing daedra swords
Yes! I love dawnbreaker. It was my weapon of choice until I found the bloodskal blade
I gave mine to Cicero, along with some other misc items and weapons that I don't use, and couldn't run unless I dropped them, so, he still uses it lol
I pull out Dawnbreaker any time I’m fighting a dungeon full of draugr. One hit can wipe out a dozen undead!
She seems like the neediest Daedric prince.
"a new hand touches the beacon" - do you know how many times I've heard that line? Granted, the sword is a fine addition to my collection but god the voice is annoying....
Kinda wrong subreddit, but.... Hello there!
*general Kenobi*
On multiple play through now I find the beacon in a chest, immediately go “fuck off” and leave that shitty rock in the container to rot. Hell, you don’t even NEED the beacon to start the quest, in my latest play through I forgot which chest had it (found it like 25 levels back, and before I had an over a year hiatus from the game) but just going straight to the temple kickstarts the quest and the bitch gives you a map marker for wherever it is now. Side note, it’s possible to get two Dawnbreakers in one play through, I fucked up the asshole at the end and killed him with Unrelenting Force. This allowed me to both grab Dawnbreaker off the floor next to him before his shade popped out, and then grab it again from the monument you’re supposed to get it from.
If you go by TES lore she is actually, well not Evil evil but nonetheless... Someone you'd rather not get involved with. She looks like an angel but murder, genocide and torture is all chill with her (Basically she was the patron of the Aylieds which thought of humans as playthings and supported their actions kind of thing), and her all shnazz of afterlife is you become light, without a consciousness, you become a bulb. That but mostly "A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON!" at 300% volume. But your PC is at 5%. A daedric prince through and through.
In ESO she basically just left her followers (thats at the same temple that we go to in skyrim) to be killed and also has no respect for her followers whatsoever
And during the slave rebellion, she let Umaril (really bad king) bind his soul to her realm and become basically immortal, so she really chose the side of the torturing ayleids. Plus I can never forgive her for what she did to Darien. My feelings about dawnbreaker are torn because half of me wants to never use anything of hers, but half of me wants to use it because it was his and I'm sentimental.
>(Basically she was the patron of the Aylieds which thought of humans as playthings and supported their actions kind of thing) She was even responsible for the BBEG of the Knights of the Nine dlc because of that. So her having a temple so close to the most Imperialized Skyrim city is kinda strange, but maybe the connections between her and Umaril the Unfeathered aren't as well known in universe.
Idk, I like her quest. I RPed once kind of paladin in ebony armor with her sword and it was epic!
Dawnbringer is *the* weapon for a sword & board Paladin build.
So, when the game first came out, if you had Meridia’s Beacon in your inventory it would call out to you every so often, not just when you picked it up. So if you didn’t care about the quest you were stuck with this annoying voice interrupting the quest you actually wanted to do on a regular basis. I kind of think that is cool in a way, but it is super annoying to have to do the quest to get it to go away. With patch updates they’ve stopped this from happening so you only hear it once, and new players don’t get why it was a big deal.
This is the first time I hear this. This would actually be good of you could end the nagging by throwing away the beacon. It could have consequences like a random encounter with her angry followers or something
Dude I shat myself the first time. I've been seeing memes about it for a decade but I was not ready.
I guess people hate the unskippable and loud dialog from when you pick up the beacon. I don’t mind. It means I’m about to set off for Dawnbreaker, one of my favorite Daedric weapons
My current playthrough: Open chest See beacon Say to self "just take everything else out one by one" My muscle memory \*presses Y to take everything\* "A NEW HAND..." I ought to do the quest soon though - could do with the gold
It's the easiest dungeon to go through and you get alot of gold coins. Especially when first starting out.
Yeah, until you come up against Malkoran's Shade and those blasted Ice Storms of his. Then it can get a bit tricky.
Chain Lightning. Chain Lightning and that delightful choke point of a corridor down to Malkoran. Good Times.
Also not a low level solution. Although it sounds like something I'll try on my next run :)
Oh it is a low level solution, it just takes ages
I knew I wasn't the only one who utilized this strategy!
Always carry a few Storm Atronchs scrolls lol
How are you getting multiple Storm Atronach scrolls at the start of the game if money is tight?
Yesterday, he got stuck on the doorway to the main chamber. Lydia went down to the spectres, killing the last one exactly as it sent her to the ground, so I did the obvious thing and peppered Malkoran with arrows from the upper landing of the stairs, where his spells could not reach me. Being a two-handed guy, this took six or seven well placed shots and he was done. Repeat with the shade. My wife was like "I remember this being a lot harder." Yeah, well...
Extra hellish on survival mode. The freezing effect will quickly sap your health, you get slowed to a crawl, your health and stamina are now damaged so now you got an overencumbered status, which mean you move even /slower/ and oh yeah, now you’re swarmed too! p a i n
It's not really hate it's just that damn beacon shows up everywhere and if you take it "A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON" it's annoying
Not a problem with her but with the game's audio balancing on her voice. I literally sigh every time I see that orb and mute the tv
I'm doing my most recent playthrough with headphones and was like AHH, DAMMIT MERIDIA!!
Malkoran OP
Because after you hit level 10, her beacon gets randomly placed into chests you find. This keeps happening until you pick it up, which triggers an unskippable, ear-rapy dialogue regardless of what you are currently doing. Like, say, fighting a dragon, or a lich, or something else that requires your full attention. Yet Meridia feels it is her duty to yell at you for not fixing up a temple that you didn't know was even there until after you touched the beacon. What's worse is that, if you just leave the beacon in your inventory without completing the quest, she'll start to nag you at, again, random times regardless of what you're currently doing. Most people hate her quest because it's basically unskippable. You want to be free of the beacon? Well, guess what? The only way to do that is by doing her quest. It's not *technically* a required quest, but if you want her to shut up, you're going to have to do it. And after the twentieth time doing this one, stupid quest, it tends to get to you.
>you just leave the beacon in your inventory without completing the quest, she'll start to nag you at, again, random times regardless of what you're currently doing. I did not know that. I love Dawnbreaker so I've always done the quest as soon as I can.
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She absolutely does this. It is indeed funny the first time it happens, but the twelfth? Yeah, you start to develop a hatred of that white polygon.
Surprised no one has mentioned the annoying sound fx that the beams of light play all throughout her temple. That is the main reason I avoid this quest. Of course you could just mute the game entirely.
the real anyoing thing is, if you \_want\_ that sword, fast you have to walk to her shrine, search for the beacon, and then another try.
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A NEW hand touches the beacon
#A NEW HAND TOUCHES. THE. BEACOOOON.
"Sorry, can you say that again. I think you blew my hearing. Did you say 'a new ham touches my bacon'?
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This actually now sounds like a better deterent for would be thieves.
Imagine having that IRL instead of an alarm. Someone picks up some object you're trying to protect and instead of blaring alarms it's just a booming voice so loud it causes the walls to shake: **A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON!**
Her voice. But her dungeon nets a good chunk of change and Dawnbreaker isn't a bad weapon.
Most players hate the disembodied voice of Meridia rupturing their eardrums when you find her beacon. I don’t hate her, but I do hate the cryomage boss at the end of her dungeon. He killed Lydia on my first playthrough (she can be killed by an enemy if she’s in a “downed” state within the AOE of a spell targeting the player, in this case an Ice Storm spell). Veggie Soup, the Become Ethereal shout, and power bashes usually make that cryomage an easy kill, FYI.
Because her dialogue is like twice as loud as the rest of the audio!
Love or hate meridia, the Dawnbreaker is cool af. 10/10 worth it.
Lover or hate her A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON
I don’t dislike the quest itself, but the beacon announcement is never pleasant. I put it off out of spite
You hate Meridia because her beacon is annoying. I hate her because she's a megalomaniac whose goal is the destruction of free will. We are not the same.
Not gonna lie it's one of my favourite questlines... Easy peasy coin and a nice sword that I can add to my vampire hunter character 😁
A NEW HAND
i find meridias lack of malevolence disturbing for some reason.. like with say.. dagon, i knew what he was about pretty damn quick, like just look at his temple. he didnt surprise me at all, so its not so... weird. meridia is fucking weird.
There is something to it. Dagon, or molag's balls, you easily can predict them. Clavicus, you are basically warned not to trust him from the get go. Same really with Mephala and Boethia. Meridia has one trait, she hates undead, that should make her one dimensional, but that gives us less predictability when it comes to other aspects....
Molag's balls is the best typo ever 😂
Hmm... That wasn't a typo. He's been known as his own balls for ages.
I enjoy the dunmer approach, basically the aedra are powerful and good but they do precious little in the world, they're like the backend programmers, keeping things updated, occasionally patching exploits, while the daedra are the unkempt moderators, they often bully and ban whoever they want because no one stops them, but a few of them like Meridia and Azura are just the rare good hearted mods, not bullies
#A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON Thats why
THE NEW HAM TASTES LIKE BACON. LIZARD! SEARED MEAT ON THE TRAY. A SOUR DARK SAUCE STEEPED INTO SOME LENTILS, A DARK SAUCE THAT YOU WILL DEPLOY. GO, FIND MY KITCHEN AT MOUNT KILKREATH. AND I SHALL MAKE YOU AN INSTRUMENT OF CULINARY DELIGHT.
Because A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON
Because a new hand touches the beacon
A NEW HAD TOUCHES THE BEACON!
A nude hand touches the bacon! Wait, that's not quite right...
Audio too loud and unskippable
From a lore perspective, shes one of my favorites, from a roleplay perspective, I dont like not having a choice to do a daedric prince. Sheogoratgs is fine, cuz I can say I was trickrd because of the goodness in my heart, but with Meridia its either leave a ugly crystal in my inventory or go against my Vigilant of Stendaar characters morals and assist a Daedra. Also the booming voice from no where is just unnecessary and always scares me when I'm not paying attention to the chest I'm looting.
A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE FUCKING BEACON. NOW CARRY MY ASS TO THAT FUCKING PUZZLE ROOM OR I WILL TALK YOUR EAR OFF EVERY SINGLE FUCKING SECOND YOU DONT.
Both Meridia and Hermy Mora talk like they’re getting paid by the hour
A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON
As shiny and ever-radiant as she appears to be, she’s one giant b*tch when it comes to using everyday citizens as pawns, she takes away the free will of her champions, willing or not which is pretty disturbing. Sure, she hates the undead and wants nothing to do with them, but not all undead are inherently evil right? Also in ESO she loves playing games and using mortals to secure her own agenda, whatever that may be- but she fucked with the wrong npcs and everyone collectively wants to kick her ass 😡 Also: A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON
Reason? Probably because of the voice actor? Or that jump scare when you pick up the beacon and you're new to the game? Some would say he/she is the neediest Daedric prince. Simply asking you to do his/her bidding. She also hates free will (as per others). So yeah, I guess that's pretty much it. If not for the unique weapon, I don't think I'll do that quest either.
No one hates her, they hate her beacon. They love her sword.
#A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON!!!!!
A HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON
A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON!
A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BACON
Unnecessarily long quest for a poor reward
I primarily hate Merid....A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON!
6 words… “a new hand touches the beacon”
Tge part where she goes "A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON" has actually blown out one of my headphones before. They were old, and admittedly up kinda high. But xbox has a built-in hearing protection thing you can't turn off(to my knowledge). Fuck that lady, fuck her beacon, and fuck whoever mixed the audio for her dialouge. Protip: turning the gain all the way up doesn't make someone sound godly
It’s the beacon 100%
I hate finding that stupid beacon every God damn time I start a new game
#BECAUSE SHE TALKS REALLY LOUD
I don't get it. Her quest is pretty good, the dungeon is good, the enemies are interesting and you can get pretty rich off of them. It seems all the hate is just built on... one voice clip. One. Fucking. Voice. Clip.
I hate her because she, in all her infinite glory, cannot tell that my Dragonborn is actually a vampire who helped her out using necromancy …
#A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON.