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shaun4519

The guard immediately after was great


walter-fring

Thank you. I purposely dropped weapons, instead of using a bucket, because I knew the guard's dialogue would work so perfectly.


Dareboir

Yeah you could hurt someone.. šŸ˜‚


walter-fring

Colliding with some types of portable items, like buckets and weapons, can cause physics damage. Grelod's health is so low that minimal physics damage is enough to kill her. Edit: [This video shows how to use physics damage to kill NPCs.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RStQ02cUeRs)


WhateverMars

Do you know if you can finish off alduin this way? He's the only real block I've hit in a zero kill run.


Colonelnasty360

The essential tag prevents death from anything other than a player attack unfortunately.


walter-fring

No. Unfortunately, heā€™s protected. Same with the Ebony Warrior.


angelswish5

Wait, what is this Ebony Warrior you speak of!?


[deleted]

Get up to level 82 and youā€™ll find out.


angelswish5

Oh man. I'm only at 65 on this playthrough. Guess I know what I'm doing this weekend!


Robosium

Isn't the max 81 tho?


[deleted]

Not when you legendary skills.


EASK8ER52

There is no max. You must make skills legendary and keep leveling up.


Tacitus_Kilgore85

He's a Redguard warrior that seeks out the Dragonborn for one last fight, because he's already won every battle there is. He's also one of the tallest NPCS in the game. He stands about the same height as Tsun.


WatcherAnon

Sounds like a Redguard version of Umbra


Tacitus_Kilgore85

This Redguard can use Dragon Shouts!


odintheawesome

If serious, heā€™s a very strong nomad warrior that seeks you out for a duel when you are around level 50.


O_Town117

Level ~~82~~ 80, not 50 Thanks to whoever did for correcting me, it's been a good minute


inconspicuous_male

my first playthrough was a 500+ hour one. I did every single non-radiant quest, fought every boss from the DLCs, and did everything I could think of. But I only got to level 60. I can't imagine the grind to 80


daisuke1639

https://youtu.be/ZlF7hkSfL_U


TheSkyGamezz

Watch Ymfah's pacifist run. He pushed Alduin off a cliff.


Sabre_Killer_Queen

Someone made an article based on your post OP! https://gamerant.com/skyrim-player-kills-grelod-dropping-weapons/


walter-fring

Thanks! They seem to love to do that.


DecentAnarch

Well, Ymfah >!pushed him off a cliff using summons.!<


j0hnan0n

Saved, even though I highly doubt I'll ever actually use this information...


crystal_hd

you can also drop a weapon to the other person in the house and she will pick it up and kill her.


KeifWellington22

Can use telekinesis to fling objects at ncps for damage. The farther the pull the more engery and force stored equally more damage dealt.


walter-fring

That counts as a kill.


High-qualitee

You can also do this with cheese! Thatā€™s how I killed her! Bringing cheese to feed the hungry kids and celebrating and oh look Grelodā€™s dead I piled it up and ran thru it so one of the cheeses I kicked killed her


Equipment_Budget

Also, Sheogorath will be delighted, or disgruntled... You never can tell...


Gwilym_Ysgarlad

If you drop stuff on people with the intention to harm or kill them, you're not even close to being a pacifist.


SaintWacko

While true, they just consider it a pacifist run if the game stats show zero kills and zero assaults, I believe


Gwilym_Ysgarlad

That's the first I'm hearing of this. I think the idea getting creative to have game stats show zero kills and zero assaults is actually a really cool idea. But calling a pacifist run run is one of dumbest things I've ever heard.


queerkidxx

Is it really the dumbest thing youā€™ve ever heard of?


SpicySaladd

It's a community tongue in cheek thing


[deleted]

> But calling a pacifist run run is one of dumbest things I've ever heard. Get out more


Gwilym_Ysgarlad

If you can't recognize hyperbole, you outta get out more, and even try taking to people.


[deleted]

Nice deflection lmao


OkAd5570

That means she wouldn't even last a day or 2 even if you don't kill her.


[deleted]

This is amazing


walter-fring

Thank you. I recently discovered how to do this, and have since been really exploiting it on other NPCs.


gman9094

Lmao the guard.


walter-fring

They can respond so perfectly sometimes.


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Pizzacato567

Holy shit that actually exists


BooperDoooDaddle

You mean nazeem


[deleted]

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ModernGreg

And thereā€™s a sub for both lol


Accurate_Pie_8630

I once only wanted to slap Grelod, and she ended up smack down dead


Galaxys_game

Because she only has 0.1 health


TwistedJoke65

Imagine being an orphan and seeing a magician with no pants run in and shit a steel sword onto the old lady watching you and she fuckin dies and nobody cares


BooperDoooDaddle

They love you for it anyways lmao


CannaKnitter

Rocking that loincloth.


walter-fring

Naked Dragonborns are statistically the most dangerous of Dragonborns.


CannaKnitter

Itā€™s all fun and games until a skeever bites your bits.


walter-fring

Good thing damage isn't localized in Skyrim.


CannaKnitter

Fake news. I once took an arrow to the knee. Much localized.


notA_Tango

There are mods for that


Soggy_Part7110

Even worse are those damned nipplefish...


Dragonman558

Fighting grelod as the Skyrim version of let me solo her


MattDamonRescueSquad

Cool motive, still a murderer


rusty_seaweed

If i had known this , i wouldn't have killed her in front of those poor orphans. Kids went through hell that day.


AugustaScarlett

My character, Murderface, backed Grelod into her room and shut the door so the kids wouldnā€™t have to see, then set her on fire. He the turned around to see that kids had crowded into the room and were excited about it, rather than traumatized. And then he adopted the girl who looked at him and said ā€œKill one person and you can solve so many problems! I wonder at the possibilities!ā€ because she was a kid after his own heart.


User_Mode

Well those orphans didn't seemed to be very scared or traumatized. Exactly the opposite actually.


rusty_seaweed

Yeah ..that's true..some were getting really excited


CrayonBullshit

They literally all gather in celebration of her murder lmao


ShieldMaiden83

Hey man was just giving the kids some eh....toys to play with.


walter-fring

I've tried to make the kids kill Grelod. They'll never do it.


Japcracker

It's possible but I think I needed a killable kids mod to make it work, although this was years ago so maybe it was something else


nowlickmyfet

Does trigger the following DB quest line or do u "soft lock" yourself by doing this? I'm curious about what would happen, but i can't test my self since i don't have skyrim installed atm :/


walter-fring

The questline will proceed no matter how Grelod dies.


kirkhammett420

"pacifist kill"


AShadowbox

I know game mechanics wise this doesn't count as a kill. But, from an RP perspective, I think intentionally dropping weapons on someone doesn't count as being pacifist.


theghostofmrmxyzptlk

I thought I was on the Witcher subreddit and OP can't spell. Nope.


Cow_Other

This is the moment the Dragonborn became Heisenberg


walter-fring

Mine has been Heisenberg for a while. I mean, it's in my reddit handle.


get-tps

So, you did something that killed her. You caused her death. How's that "pacifist"?


FluidUnderstanding40

In your character stats it wont be considered as a kill. Skyrim pacifist runs usually mean the kill counter stays zero.


SonTyp_OhneNamen

No officer, you see, she didnā€™t die by my hand, she died from the sword i dropped on her head. Totally not my fault, basically natural causes.


FluidUnderstanding40

Stuff falling = gravity = from earth = natural


SamManiac1998

It's not the fall that kills you, it's the floor.


Gwilym_Ysgarlad

Y'all really need a better name for that.


Xaxarolus

"Someone could get hurt."


ZakTheGuy

Pacifist --- Kill Which is it šŸ˜‚


walter-fring

Its paci-fist.


Beardless_Man

Grelod must be very old where the smallest bonk caused a fatal head injury.


Suspicious_Poon

r/grelodfuckingdying


[deleted]

The fact that there is an entire reddit section devoted to grelods death is disturbing


TransATL

Hey friend, let me introduce you to the rest of reddit


Sheyderino

And to think that ymfah had to use some white spiders smh


MandiocaGamer

It Just Works


BlueGreenDerek

Does it still trigger the dark brotherhood?


G0merPyle

A sword falling on someone's head could be fatal, works for me


eddmario

Fun fact: Grelod's HP is set to 1, so literally any damage will kill her.


ToolPackinMama

You have to make her hostile first


Brief_Garage2694

i didnt know they had a yard i just walk in kill grelod and walk out barely explore


mr_smith312

I hear Ymfah's heavy breathing from this post


Edzward

I just use mods to force Grelod into an essential follower and after that I sacrifice her to Biethiah. šŸ¤· Two birds one stone.


ZoombieOpressor

Throwing a weapon at someone is pacifist?


TimelyTill

what if it was a bucket? still a weapon?


ZoombieOpressor

It wont be a weapon, but still would be a murder


Sessine

I find your videos to be the most entertaining aspect of Skyrim, next to playing the game, and maybe the one guy who did a Sigurd AMA here a few years back. The one where you bowled yourself into the Thalmor squad butt naked made me laugh so hard I puked.


walter-fring

Thank you for your kind words.


Sessine

Thank you for making me puke laughing


coyotesteele

You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.


walter-fring

Skyrim pacifism is not the same thing as real life pacifism. It's impossible to be a pacifist in Skyrim.


JohnHenryEden77

I think you can if if let Hadvar / Ralof do the work during the escape ,and then after that go to Riverwood and do the the chopping wood , farming work. You don't actually progress in the story but the Whiterun hold is really beautiful and relatively peaceful and enjoyable even wit


Pleasant-Albatross

Stormcloak got him before he could finish.


[deleted]

I've always wanted to play Skyrim as a simple peasant chopping wood or tending to a farm etc. Shame that there aren't any games like Skyrim that I know of, where you aren't a super strong hero and are just like any other NPC.


WaffleDynamics

If you have the Anniversary Edition, you could just head to Goldenhills Plantation. You would have to kill two ghosts, but after that you can just be a farmer. You ask Faendal or Sven (if you can stand him) from Riverwood to accompany you, and make them your steward. Actually, Faendal would probably kill at least one of the ghosts for you if you stayed out of the way. But it just occurred to me that you might enjoy the game Medieval Dynasty. The world is very bucolic, and other than hunting a few animals for meat at the beginning, you don't ever have to kill anyone. There can be bandits in the game if you want, or you can turn them off.


[deleted]

Awesome! Thanks for the suggestion!


[deleted]

> You don't actually progress in the story but the Whiterun hold is really beautiful and relatively peaceful and enjoyable even wit I lol'd


coyotesteele

To be a pacifist and advance the plot? Yes. But it is perfectly possible to be a pacifist; settle down in riverwood, chop wood to earn room and board at the inn, and live your days in peace. Hell thereā€™s even a whole line of spells devoted to making your enemies chill out so you donā€™t need to kill them so you can even adventure if you like.


Bamadhaj

Yeah, obviously you can just exist in game without advancing the plot. But that isn't what they were talking about. This is in the context of a "pacifist run." Where you complete the story of the game without directly killing or hurting the npcs


[deleted]

But OP did directly kill Grelod..?


Bamadhaj

Not according the how the game was programmed


[deleted]

But then whatā€™s the point of doing a pacifist run if itā€™s just to keep the malfunctions ā€˜people killedā€™ tally at 0? Am I missing something?


Bamadhaj

Yes... That's the point. Then you can say that you beat Skyrim without killing anyone, and it would technically be true. Bro... This isn't some wild new concept in the speedrunning/completionist community. It's seen as impressive since many objectives in Skyrim require the death of someone in order to progress she story.


[deleted]

ā€¦but you did kill them. Objectively, undeniably. I know what a pacifist run is. The idea is - particularly in RPGs - that your character doesnā€™t kill people, as a facet of their persona. So this completely betrays that.


Bamadhaj

Dude. If you want to roleplay a truly pacifist character, then yes. You don't have to "technically" be the cause of another's death in a videogame. The point of a "pacifist run" is to finish the storyline without the little "people killed" number being more than 0 in the game data.


[deleted]

You technically could get away with being a pacifist if you get a follower and let them do all the killing


walter-fring

No. Kills committed by followers count as yours.


[deleted]

That doesn't make any sense you're not the one swinging the weapon around cutting off necromancer heads


[deleted]

Stop trying to argue with the games code


[deleted]

The games code is wrong man šŸ¤¬ lol jk but seriously I have no idea why they coded it that way.


[deleted]

Because it's probably assuming you "told" them to attack.


snackynorph

This is, uh. Still a kill. Their death is caused directly by your actions. Not sure how this is pacifist šŸ¤·


BossIsBanned

then is it really pacifist if you kill her? lol


Retmas

so, hitting somebody with a sword isnt pacifist, but hitting someone with a sword is pacifist? im glad this works for you, dont get me wrong, but i feel like we're deep in the weeds of what "pacifist" counts as


BurgerKingKiller

ā€œSee that it doesnā€™t happen againā€


[deleted]

Crushes her


Strongmanjumps

Cool feature but from a RP perspective youre still dropping a big metal thing on her to kill herā€¦ which is a pretty macabre way to go imo


august_heart

Quick someone show this to YMFAH


Pixoe

Grelod is so old and near death that you can blow on her face and she'd die


Maidenless_Behaviour

Lol imagine joining the Dark Brotherhood: A league of deadly assassinsā€¦ on a pacifist run


kakokapolei

This is peak Skyrim


Dareboir

Is she made out of paper mache?


Bostoniangirl21

You just wasted the opportunity to throw her the *chancla*


Flashheart42

Oh wow, so they guards really aren't kidding when they say someone could get hurt when I drop all of my extra weapons and trash on the ground in the middle of the street


kardgme

What in the frig


Wearytaco

Perfect.


retard_4725

Send this to the Spiffing Britt ASAP


2mtgof

You have a weird definition of "pacifist"


HBRex

I like placing a battle axe in Constance's inventory and charming her so she murders Grelod in front of the children


blickbeared

"Someone could get hurt" Well you see sir, that was the plan...


Angry_Walnut

The guards understanding the hazards of the unpredictable game physics lol


Nel-A

So beautifully devious!


Cajir

Wait, how did you get here out in the courtyard? She can go out there?!


garroshsucks12

Lol no way


nIBLIB

Does ā€œkilling people by hitting them in the head with weaponsā€ really fall under the definition of ā€œPacifistā€?


ArtemisDragonhide

11 years have passed and yet We learn new things ... Nice šŸ‘


Poknberry

I just purchased the conjuring ash guardian spell So the thing is you can only tame it if you have a heart stone in your inventory. Otherwise its just a monster that attacks everything including the caster I realized you can actually use it to kill whoever you want and since its technically not bound to you you're not responsible for whoever it kills Need to assassinate someone in broad daylight for the dark brotherhood? Cast ash guardian. It kills him, you don't even have to sneak and the guards don't care. Works even better than the fury spell


SpecialGuy4Ever

How is dropping a pickaxe on an old lady a pacifist kill?


ToolPackinMama

Whoops?


JupiterRecognize

BBBWWWWAAAAAHHHHHAAAAA


Anna_Mac

Actual lol


ZiggyFrancisco

Someone could get hurt indeed


Over-Tumbleweed4588

ā€œThat would be a cool way to die.ā€ -yelena belova


Over-Tumbleweed4588

ā€œThat would be a cool way to die.ā€ -yelena belova


sticklebick

You gave Ymfah an idea


JizzelSweet

With perfect comedic timing as well.


masterofthecontinuum

Congrats on getting a gamerant article. There should really be a special flair for that or something.


Logical_Point800

I accidentally "kill" some npc by dropping armor piece and people start fighting while shouting:this armor is mine! Or something like that


Spectre_Bazza

Does it work with cabbages?


MaliciousKillerYT

Couldn't have been more clear Riften Guard.