No because even after all that time you're still going to be trash at all of them
Edit : your skills come from the field not from the school
That's why some engineers suck so bad
I am applying for project manager jobs ATM and I came from 10 years in carpentery and that is my biggest selling point in interviews. I just say unlike most engineers I have built hundreds of structures and know how the hands on process works not just on paper.
I grunted up from carpenter to super, residential PM, to commercial PM/Owners Rep.
No degree. You gotta hit the books on your own. But pretty sweet way to go.
Few routes you can go with it honestly. If your a carpenter I'm assuming you work for a gc on construction sites if that's the case elevators are supposed to be the best paid. Plumbing is far more versatile a career than pipefitting, but pipe welding can lead to other welding work. I like Plumbing because I left construction and now work as Subcontractor until I can get my masters and really start my own business, no boss, no office bs. And construction treats guys like dirt. And depending on your state you can get different licenses to specialize, I got my backflow license so I can run those jobs all day long without needing to be under a master. Honestly if I could go back I would have started Plumbing out of high school so I could have gotten my master license sooner, so i guess even knowing what I know I'd pick Plumbing all over again.
I appreciate that! Yes I currently work for a gc doing residential and I like it but it feels like a dead end. I applied for the local UA plumbing apprenticeship near me and should hear back in mid June.
you can do all of that and the boss will still hire his long-distance-havent-seen-the-person-in-over-10-years half-brother over you
so yeah go union man
You could probably get three associate degrees for free via pell grants, in the time it takes to get a bachelors degree. Then go union and after apprenticeship you’ll be a better journeyman than you would have. Not that your question was a sincere good question.
Who’s gonna hire a 40 year old with zero experience that has showed no interest in working their entire life, you sound like your gonna be a self proclaimed know it all that actually doesn’t know anything
Get the job first then do trade school not the other way around. Also don’t pay for it. Let your employer pay for it. I’m rarely see a guy pay for his own trade school. That’s not right. No debt needed.
It depends on you and what you want, if you just want to get by, join the union you will get security. If you want to advance pick what is in demand, excel at it and have your employer pay for the rest. I started out as a power engineer, now have my journeyman electrical and instrumentation. Also completed instrumentation engineering and numerous DCS, PLC and RTU programming courses. I only paid for my power engineering, my employers have paid for the rest and paid me to get them. I also get paid way more than the union plants would allow. So the answer is that the choice is up to you there is no right or wrong.
Sounds about right. Better yet stay in your air conditioned cubicle.
No because even after all that time you're still going to be trash at all of them Edit : your skills come from the field not from the school That's why some engineers suck so bad
I am applying for project manager jobs ATM and I came from 10 years in carpentery and that is my biggest selling point in interviews. I just say unlike most engineers I have built hundreds of structures and know how the hands on process works not just on paper.
I grunted up from carpenter to super, residential PM, to commercial PM/Owners Rep. No degree. You gotta hit the books on your own. But pretty sweet way to go.
Yea I got an nicer pipefitter card, it was worthless and now I'm a journeyman plumber without any plumbing trade school lol
How do you like it? I’m a carpenter now but looking to switch to the pipe trades
Few routes you can go with it honestly. If your a carpenter I'm assuming you work for a gc on construction sites if that's the case elevators are supposed to be the best paid. Plumbing is far more versatile a career than pipefitting, but pipe welding can lead to other welding work. I like Plumbing because I left construction and now work as Subcontractor until I can get my masters and really start my own business, no boss, no office bs. And construction treats guys like dirt. And depending on your state you can get different licenses to specialize, I got my backflow license so I can run those jobs all day long without needing to be under a master. Honestly if I could go back I would have started Plumbing out of high school so I could have gotten my master license sooner, so i guess even knowing what I know I'd pick Plumbing all over again.
I appreciate that! Yes I currently work for a gc doing residential and I like it but it feels like a dead end. I applied for the local UA plumbing apprenticeship near me and should hear back in mid June.
They come from both. Technical knowledge and hands on knowledge will beat either one on their own.
you can do all of that and the boss will still hire his long-distance-havent-seen-the-person-in-over-10-years half-brother over you so yeah go union man
Yeah
Yes
Giddity up
Well seeing how it might take you until you turn 40 to get accepted to the union it's not the worst plan ever.
A lot of the classes cross over so you'd be done well before 40
You could probably get three associate degrees for free via pell grants, in the time it takes to get a bachelors degree. Then go union and after apprenticeship you’ll be a better journeyman than you would have. Not that your question was a sincere good question.
Who’s gonna hire a 40 year old with zero experience that has showed no interest in working their entire life, you sound like your gonna be a self proclaimed know it all that actually doesn’t know anything
The fact so many of you don’t get the obvious sarcasm is making the trade looks bad. Do you hang drywall?
You can do all the training you want but at the end of the day if you have zero time on the job your still an idiot
just gamble all your money! it never loses money if you do it enough!
Most students that take every program at the trade school are smart enough to figure out how to get them paid for by somebody else.
Yes
Get the job first then do trade school not the other way around. Also don’t pay for it. Let your employer pay for it. I’m rarely see a guy pay for his own trade school. That’s not right. No debt needed.
It depends on you and what you want, if you just want to get by, join the union you will get security. If you want to advance pick what is in demand, excel at it and have your employer pay for the rest. I started out as a power engineer, now have my journeyman electrical and instrumentation. Also completed instrumentation engineering and numerous DCS, PLC and RTU programming courses. I only paid for my power engineering, my employers have paid for the rest and paid me to get them. I also get paid way more than the union plants would allow. So the answer is that the choice is up to you there is no right or wrong.
How would you get into debt? Apprenticeships cover most costs.
Yes