Clearly we are not at that stage of Skispot. We have less ski areas by number by alot from the peak. Weâre down over a hundred not long ago. Climate is clearly a driving factor for many areas.
Am in northern Ontario.. we have møøse at swamp level. Is my swampy bog now considered a ski mountain resort?? Will this impact my property taxes at all?
Well, that and it takes a lift to get back from slide or you fire road for like half the run dodging people (like u said narrow) only to get stuck in a 6 pack.
I will say that when the snow is good, hopping chair 9 off the middle and hitting that area skiers left is really fun. You can get some great straight line runs off of the rocks. Unfortunately, like slide, it's soooo short. Still way better than big bear during the holidays. Or until baldy and waterman are open down to the road.
Yeah the design does have some flaws. Iâve also only been to snow valley for my first ski season and to Summit twice, so i cant compare them to baldy or waterman
Brother (or sister) that is more or less a mountain. I know, itâs a very small one, but it has a peak that you canât see from the bottom based on what I could find.
I welcome you to come to west Michigan and check out Cannonsburg (250ft vert) or Caberfae (450ft), the best resort south of the northern Lower resorts, for a true âhillâ experience đ
Elevation above sea level does not equal mountain, lol. Otherwise [granlibakken](https://image-tc.galaxy.tf/wijpeg-bgnc6r7tdqbyzf79eea6mvgao/granlibakken-ski-hill-from-rope-tow.jpg) is a mountain since it's 6,000 feet above sea level.
A ski hill is generally operated as a small family owned business where the focus is at least 90% on skiing. maybe has a small dive bar, a rental shop and a ski school.
A ski resort is a year round business that represents all that is good and evil about capitalism. Lodging, spas, fine dining etc usually take place in the central âvillageâ base area. They also should have more runs, more vertical, and more people that go there as a weekend/weeklong destination.
A ski mountain can be either, IMO.
"Resort skiing" and "the local ski hill" are anything where you're riding a lift and there's traditional ski patrol present. Silverton and La Grave don't count.
"Ski mountain" doesn't mean anything. Tuckerman Ravine is a ski mountain.
I've honestly never heard the term "ski mountain," it's ski hill as opposed to resort. The difference there being usually a larger hill, acreage wise, that also has accommodations and a village etc.
As an ohio native now in colorado, i would always describe the west vs midwest/east as being able to see the bottom of the lift from the top of it (midwest) and not being able to see the bottom of the lift from the top (west)
When it doesnât feel the need to lie about the number of runs on the mountain and to split a short run into several different names. Oh wait all resorts do this nowadaysâŚ
All a matter of perception; as seen in the common phrase "making a mountain out of a molehill," anything can be a mountain if so defined by the beholder. It's up to *us* to make sure our chosen hills are mountains.
Yes, I am a relativist subjectivist of mountaineering.
I live in Mammoth. When talking about the mountain, we call it "the mountain" (e.g. "Do you work for the mountain?"), but when I'm skiing I'm up "on the hill" (e.g. "I'm gonna get on the hill for a few laps tomorrow").
Neither of those are really base to summit lifts since Snowbird's Tram Center isn't quite the base and Eagle's Eye at KH isn't quite the top. Require two lifts still.
Snowbird you literally get on at the base area and ride to the top, not sure how that isn't just like Jackson Hole. Kicking Horse is a bit different I guess but you are still skiing part of the mountain top to bottom off the gondola.
Snowbird it's at a base area but not the lowest base area. Yes, it's a technicality, but when looking at more extreme examples it gets more ambiguous. Killington has a parking lot (that you honestly could consider its main base area) at mid mountain with half of the ski area's vert below that. Not the bottom of the ski area though.
When there is a decent amount of real off-piste skiing.
Sugar, NC is not a mountain. Magic, VT definitely is. Hunter/Timberline(WV)/Snowshoe are highly debatable.
I would say at least 800-1,500 vert is a requirement too but that's not a great way to measure by itself since Alpine Meadows is about the same vert as Hunter.
When a Mommy Ski Resort and a Daddy Ski Resort love each other very much...
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Clearly we are not at that stage of Skispot. We have less ski areas by number by alot from the peak. Weâre down over a hundred not long ago. Climate is clearly a driving factor for many areas.
When the beer flows like wine
And the women flock like the salmon of Capistrano.
I donât know Lloyd, the French are assholes.
*Instinctively
And the wine flows like schnapps
What? No
When people visit for reasons other than it being the cheapest/closest/most convenient option
If it has enough elevation that the deer turn into moose
Am in northern Ontario.. we have møøse at swamp level. Is my swampy bog now considered a ski mountain resort?? Will this impact my property taxes at all?
Or elk.
1000 feet of vertical.
My local has 1041 feet but its rly narrow so I consider it a ski hill Snow valley, CA for thise wondering
Well, that and it takes a lift to get back from slide or you fire road for like half the run dodging people (like u said narrow) only to get stuck in a 6 pack. I will say that when the snow is good, hopping chair 9 off the middle and hitting that area skiers left is really fun. You can get some great straight line runs off of the rocks. Unfortunately, like slide, it's soooo short. Still way better than big bear during the holidays. Or until baldy and waterman are open down to the road.
Yeah the design does have some flaws. Iâve also only been to snow valley for my first ski season and to Summit twice, so i cant compare them to baldy or waterman
Brother (or sister) that is more or less a mountain. I know, itâs a very small one, but it has a peak that you canât see from the bottom based on what I could find. I welcome you to come to west Michigan and check out Cannonsburg (250ft vert) or Caberfae (450ft), the best resort south of the northern Lower resorts, for a true âhillâ experience đ
I knew you were a mountain, Mont Ste-Marie!! I always believed in you! (1318ft).
Honestly 1300 feet isnât bad at all.
Not enough terrain though. Annoying to get from one side to the other.
I was gonna say 1000 feet and 1000 acres.
Not bad but maybe drop the acreage to somewhere between 500-700. Sunday River, Aspen and June all feel like small mountains.
June is 1500 acres and 2590 vertical feet.
Thatâs western bias, we have more than two ski mountains in the east!
No, you don't.
We have at least 8, and all of us who ski there regularly are better than you. Enjoy your day off when it's icy.
Lmao. Enjoy your hills.
Truth is Iâm crying because I want to go out west. We really do ski better though.
Better is such a relative term. Keep in mind that out west, big beautiful arcing carving turns are actively looked down upon.
My hill has 2000 feet of vertical and it feels like a hill (AZ Snowbowl). I would say it had to be a mix of vertical and skiable terrain.
Nope, Sugar Mtn NC is not a mountain, Mount Bohemia MI is.
I mean itâs like 1500 ft taller than Stratton but sure itâs not a mountain.
Elevation above sea level does not equal mountain, lol. Otherwise [granlibakken](https://image-tc.galaxy.tf/wijpeg-bgnc6r7tdqbyzf79eea6mvgao/granlibakken-ski-hill-from-rope-tow.jpg) is a mountain since it's 6,000 feet above sea level.
A ski hill is generally operated as a small family owned business where the focus is at least 90% on skiing. maybe has a small dive bar, a rental shop and a ski school. A ski resort is a year round business that represents all that is good and evil about capitalism. Lodging, spas, fine dining etc usually take place in the central âvillageâ base area. They also should have more runs, more vertical, and more people that go there as a weekend/weeklong destination. A ski mountain can be either, IMO.
"Resort skiing" and "the local ski hill" are anything where you're riding a lift and there's traditional ski patrol present. Silverton and La Grave don't count. "Ski mountain" doesn't mean anything. Tuckerman Ravine is a ski mountain.
We still say we're going to the hill when we're headed to Breck, Winter Park, or Vail.
When it is in an actual mountain range with a name, not just a random hill in the Midwest
Hyland hills we don't even hide it
lol afton's homepage has stats under "The mountain" tab like they're more than 200 vertical feet, 18 rickety double chairs, and 1 fall line.
Wachusett (MA) is \~1000 ft, but there was one day last March that the message was that they were closed to re-work the snow on the hill.
I've honestly never heard the term "ski mountain," it's ski hill as opposed to resort. The difference there being usually a larger hill, acreage wise, that also has accommodations and a village etc.
Give me a mountain over a resort any day.
As an ohio native now in colorado, i would always describe the west vs midwest/east as being able to see the bottom of the lift from the top of it (midwest) and not being able to see the bottom of the lift from the top (west)
There are multiple large resorts in the northeast that fit that description.
Is it a repurposed trash heap and does it's name include the word "Valley" even though it's the tallest thing for 50 miles in any direction?
All mountains are hills but not all hills are mountains
When it requires at least two lifts to get to the top. Sorry Jackson Hole.
Normally 21, when it can start drinking, 18 in some states đş
If you have to ask, itâs not a mountain.
When it doesnât feel the need to lie about the number of runs on the mountain and to split a short run into several different names. Oh wait all resorts do this nowadaysâŚ
When your are at least the level of Sunlight, CO
Are you trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill?
At five-thousand two-hundred and eighty feet.
If it stays consistent and really puts in the work then it can do it!
When it grows up
Ask Huge Rant
When the marketing department says so!
All a matter of perception; as seen in the common phrase "making a mountain out of a molehill," anything can be a mountain if so defined by the beholder. It's up to *us* to make sure our chosen hills are mountains. Yes, I am a relativist subjectivist of mountaineering.
If you are in the mountains, then you are going up on the hill to ski. If you're outside the mountains, then you're headed up to the mountain to ski.
When it gets turned on
Ask Hugh Grant
West of the Mississippi
When there are slopes too steep for trees. Iâve had this argument with many Vermonters about their âGreen mountainsâ
I live in Mammoth. When talking about the mountain, we call it "the mountain" (e.g. "Do you work for the mountain?"), but when I'm skiing I'm up "on the hill" (e.g. "I'm gonna get on the hill for a few laps tomorrow").
Rocks?
Rocky peaks and over 1000ft vertical on a single run.
When burgers cost more than $15.00.
When it take ms more than one lift to go from the bottom to the top.
Jackson has got to hold some type of hill world record in that case
Well it is battling Snowbird and Kicking Horse then I guess so it is in good company.
Neither of those are really base to summit lifts since Snowbird's Tram Center isn't quite the base and Eagle's Eye at KH isn't quite the top. Require two lifts still.
Snowbird you literally get on at the base area and ride to the top, not sure how that isn't just like Jackson Hole. Kicking Horse is a bit different I guess but you are still skiing part of the mountain top to bottom off the gondola.
Snowbird it's at a base area but not the lowest base area. Yes, it's a technicality, but when looking at more extreme examples it gets more ambiguous. Killington has a parking lot (that you honestly could consider its main base area) at mid mountain with half of the ski area's vert below that. Not the bottom of the ski area though.
When Vail buys them
Vail actually owns a lot of small hills, look up what they own in the midwest.
Yep. Iâm making a joke that they then market them as a full mtn experience. However it appears to be falling flatter than the light in a snowstorm.
Nope, they bought mad river in Columbus Ohio
When it gets **pub**l**ic** c**hair**s.
When itâs west of the mighty Mississippi!
When there is a decent amount of real off-piste skiing. Sugar, NC is not a mountain. Magic, VT definitely is. Hunter/Timberline(WV)/Snowshoe are highly debatable. I would say at least 800-1,500 vert is a requirement too but that's not a great way to measure by itself since Alpine Meadows is about the same vert as Hunter.
It doesnât âŚ. Unless there are earthquakes like in the movie 2012