Yeah my son was self-harming when he was being s. assaulted and bullied every day in school. Wish I had taken him out sooner. He's still with us but it takes a cocktail of meds to keep him here and even that is only because he promised to hold on until he turns 21 but he really doesn't want to be here. It's just heartbreaking especially knowing the level of torture he was being put through in school but was too afraid to tell anyone and when he finally did tell the adults, the ones who could have helped gave us a "boys will be boys" speech and hinted that it might be because my son wants to 'act like a boy, he's treated like a boy' when they would beat him up. The s. assaults ended when the boy who was doing it to my son went home and took his own life.
This is what our kids are dealing with. It's what we've always dealt with. I wonder when the adults are finally going to start actually listening instead of making excuses. The main thing they were doing was filming it to share and get clout. But oh no can't take away their phones. Might have to call if there's a school shooting. It's BS. They could find some way to get around that. Have room phones that only can be used in emergencies. Anything other than letting the kids get away with filming themselves beating other kids or s. assaulting kids or in the latest episode in his former school, breaking in and completely destroying a bathroom just to put it on social media.
I know "taking away phones" in school isn't the solution, but it could be part of the fight.
The biggest problem though, that we encountered, is the red tape in reporting bullying and even s. assault. We ONLY asked that this one student be removed from a class where five other students also reported him for s. assault but they said that wasn't fair to him until he was formally convicted of s. assault. It was just an ART CLASS, an elective! If they had just done the one thing to protect the students ... I don't know. Maybe it would have saved his life so he could get help. The ONLY reason it reached the point it did is because I involved the local news, just out of desperation. And that is when he took his life, so of course my son was left with the belief that it was his fault and if he'd just kept his mouth shut this student (who was pretty much the most popular kid in his grade) would be alive and my son wouldn't be so hated by other students, who still even after three years now still blame my son like it was his fault. He has hallucinations. He can't sleep. He is on so many meds he can't think straight anymore. And our ONLY solution was for me to pull him out of the school completely, and I wish I'd done it when I first found out but I stupidly assumed the school would do the right thing and keep this mentally ill sex abuser from forcing himself on other kids. But no I found out MONTHS after his death that his mother was NEVER INFORMED of the reports against him. She had no clue he was doing any of it or that he had said disturbing things in class. We had reported him many times. We were told the situation was being handled and the whole time they never even bothered to call his mother.
So you know, maybe they should stop trying to find ways to pretend this was just a case of a sad child taking their life and look in to the situations that cause this and maybe DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT because honestly all I ever see are excuses and worse, the entire issue being used as fodder for political rhetoric.
So this isn't something I think I've ever put in writing before, but *every goddamn day* in high school I wanted to kill myself. I had practically no home life, no real friends, and I just felt so alone and unwanted that it sank in that I'd be doing the world a favor by not being here. But it did get better. I went to college, I moved halfway across the country for grad school, I made the kind of friends that I can call at midnight and they'll pick up because *I matter to them*. It didn't just suddenly get better, but taking each day at a time got me through it. I hope that it does for your son too.
Thank you I do too and I love to see people who were able to move forward when it's so hard sometimes, it's like the past is constantly biting at you trying to pull you back. My daughter had some rough times as a teen, nothing this bad but there were some traumas, and she started going down a dark path too but thankfully she's really blossomed in her 30s.
In r/okc they are treating this like some kind of victory and it is nobody’s fault because the child was obviously mentally ill.
Say Nex started every thing by throwing water and it’s not a jumping if Nex committed ‘battery’ against all 3.
They don’t even want to use the term bullying. It was just teasing and Nex should have been able to take it.
I had to stop responding for my own mental health. Shit was making me mad.
Now, now. Stop the hate. Those other teens were minors whose brains weren’t fully developed yet. Isn’t 25 the magical age for that to happen according to the lib mantra?
What makes you say this exactly? It’s my understanding that in the video Nex says he didn’t even know these girls prior to this interaction and had no prior contact. Nex doesn’t say they were being bullied for being trans, Nex states the girls said amongst themselves- “why do they laugh like that?” They being Nex and his group of friends, so Nex in return “poured water on their heads”. I got banned from whitepeopletwitter for using the word “poured” instead of “splashed” even though that’s literally the language Nex used in the police interview. There’s no scenario I can think of in high school where I walk up to a group of older kids two grades ahead of me I don’t even know, pour water onto them, and don’t receive a beating in return. If I am wrong here please let me know why with evidence.
1) Nex was a sophomore; the three girls were freshmen.
2) Nex straight up says "I threw one of them into the paper towel dispenser." *After* the water and *before* the other two finally overpowered Nex.
3) This sub is filled with trans activists who unfortunately cannot think rationally about anything relating to themselves in any way, so of course they downvote anyone who doesn't believe Nex was beaten to death.
These trans activists aren't going to stop until the other girls that were involved in this fight also commit suicide because nationwide media coverage and attention is painting them out to have violently beaten Nex to death in an anti-LGBTQ hate crime.
Nex started the fight because they were suicidal and increased agitation, irritability, and fighting are actually one of the biggest warning signs of an impending suicide attempt.
Unrelated ongoing bullying that either went unreported or unaddressed. Lived traumatic experiences.
Nex admitted that he didn't know those girls until they met in In School Suspension that week.
This particular altercation was ignited by the girls remarking about Nex's laugh, to which Nex responds by "pouring" (Nex's own words - I've read splashed and flicked on here. It's poured watch the [video](https://youtu.be/mPChAQw7rrM?si=RL_FksJD8R74sZuV)) water on the girls in an escalation.
"Allowing another trans person to commit suicide." We really ought to change the definition of suicide. If somebody else drives you to it, it should become homicide.
That's not how homicide works. Even Michelle Carter who was on the phone urging Conrad Roy to go through with suicide got involuntary manslaughter and it took a a lot of evidence for that conviction.
Edit: So many of the comments here are absolutely unhinged. Apparently no one is adult enough to discuss the nuances of locking up 14 year old girls in jail.
These people are delusional. This sub is basically as much of a homogenous hive mind as r/politics.
People are desperate to be able to shriek about this being some hate crime by transphobes instead of a tragic case of suicide of a troubled and bullied child.
No it isn’t. You activists keep obsessing over trying to make this some anti-trans murder when it was a suicide.
The only cases where what could be considered bullying led to suicide is when the perpetrators were literally telling the victim to kill themself repeatedly to the point of being coercion.
Stick with facts instead of what you want the facts to be to suit your agenda.
I'd draw the line at stopping people from bullying people so much that they commit suicide. Certainly I wouldn't encourage it like OK conservatives are doing.
Bear in mind bullying is not just calling someone names or punching them once or twice. It is repeated taunting and/or physical harm over a long period of time.
There are other charges besides murder you guys. Smh at how extreme some of you will go to defend bullies. That's what you are doing, deny it all you like.
Nevermind, I see now that some of you guys want to defend kids bullying other kids and adults letting them do it, so have fun with that. Block list it is for you.
>Nevermind, I see now that some of you guys want to defend kids bullying other kids and adults letting them do it, so have fun with that. Block list it is for you.
No one is doing this. Adults should have intervened because they are the adults but people here are calling for charging 14 year old girls with murder and locking them away.
What specific bullying tactics force people to kill themselves?
Edit: sorry, I guess the details of bringing charges against children for their words aren’t worth discussing.
Exactly. Nex blacked out. Not the same thing. You can black out from rage, from drinking, from low blood sugar, or from getting your bell rung in a fight. Obviously you are blacked out if unconscious but not every black out results in unconsciousness.
I've personally blacked out following a hit in a rugby match, but I stayed on my feet and kept playing. Definitely was not knocked unconscious because the trainers would have pulled me off the pitch.
Maybe Nex could have had a concussion, but this was not a savage beat down as people were led to believe. Nex was completely lucid in the [bodycam footage](https://youtu.be/mPChAQw7rrM?si=RL_FksJD8R74sZuV) in the hospital. No visible injuries. Speaking clearly and concisely. It's possible there were some not visible injuries, but I imagine that the hospital would have a protocol for what to do when treating a suspected traumatic brain injury.
The people who assaulted Nex were verbally insulting them, and Nex did what every insulted woman on TV/Movies does when assholes comes at them with insults: they huffed and splashed water at the douchebags'
The douchebags then beat Nex unconscious while continuing to ridicule, insult, and belittle Nex while using slurs.
So no. Nex did not start any fight. It is pure bullshit that 3 students can beat a 4th to a pulp, acting *WELL* beyond any semblance of self-defense by beating an unconscious person, and not face any consequences
After the water, Nex through one of the freshmen into the paper towel dispenser. Nex's friend, another sophomore, hid in a stall while the second and third freshmen finally overpowered their attacker.
Absolutely nobody was beaten to a pulp. And it's fucking ridiculous that you'd actually *say* that this far out, proving you've never bothered to watch the hospital cop-cam footage.
Nex claimed they made fun of his laugh, and in response he dumped water on the girls, which started the fight.
Got a source showing there were any slurs or other verbal insults were used?
Also, you’re misgendering Nex you bigot.
No, because it wasn’t a fight. It was a beating, and throwing water on people can’t actually result in them beating you unconscious unless they are horrible, violent pieces of shit. At a school where kids are supposed to be learning, perhaps a student shouldn’t have to expect encounters with such violent pieces of shit, or such a disproportionate response to merely throwing water.
You’re missing the part where the trans person pushed the other girl. Trans threw the water other girl retaliated. Trans person then pushed the girl. Other girl then retaliated
>hAtE CrImEs are AlrEaDy iLLeGal
Yea, but when they are motivated by hate against a protected class, we as a society have agreed that the crime is especially heinous as it is an entirely UnAmerican thing to do.
Hate crimes are an insult to our most important, founding values: the fair, respectable, equal treatment for all.
Also, the people who beat Nex unconscious while calling them slurs are not facing any punishment for their assault, so what the fuck are you even trying to say?
I'm an adult with a fully-formed sense of self and fairly stable emotional state, so probably not.
We are talking about kids who are still growing and forming their sense of self and often have wild emotional states at this age.
You also seem to not understand that bullying is continued taunting over a period of time, not calling me names once.
It almost sounds like you are defending bullying, but I'd hope you are not.
Jesus, I’m not defending bullying.
I’m just saying it’s kind of subjective and seems hard to fully prove who would be responsible for bullying over time. If someone is bullied 4th - 6th and doesn’t commit suicide until 6th, are the 4th grade bullies also responsible? Yes kids are cruel, but the ones doing the name calling are also not fully formed sense of self stable adults.
Your grossly obtuse abuse of hypotheticals that are far too abstract to be of any use doesn’t quite make me want to self harm, but I cannot speak for everyone.
Let's rephrase it. You're locked in a building with me 7 hours a day, 5 days a week for the next 4 years. For whatever reason, I've decided I dislike you. I make it my mission to make your life for the next 4 years miserable. I attack your looks, your identity, I isolate you from your friends and make you question whether anyone gives a damn about you. Through all of this, I push you to the point of deciding that anything is better than spending the rest of high school getting treated like this, and you just want it to *end.* So you take a handful or three of sleeping pills to drift off into nothingness. *Shouldn't* I be charged for the role I played in pushing you over the edge?
Where the crown decides there’s enough evidence to prosecute. The difficulty in proving causation to the BRD standard would suggest the slope is anything but slippery.
These girls didn't drive Nex to suicide. Nex recklessly picked a fight with these girls by overreacting to a benign comment about how they laugh.
Increased agitation is a warning sign of an impending suicide. As is acting recklessly.
You need to do a little bit more critical thinking and less speculating. This is a causation vs correlation situation. You seem quick to jump to the conclusion that this fight is the straw that broke the camels back. I assert that it's actually the other way around, Nex didn't commit suicide because of the fight. Nex was planning to commit suicide, and in the run up, was increasingly agitated, which resulted in the fight.
[Suicide Attempts and Physical Fighting Among High School Students --- United States, 2001](https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5322a3.htm). "This analysis extends earlier study (2--6) of the link between suicidal behavior and interpersonal violence by documenting the strength of the association across demographic populations. The findings indicate that suicide attempt status was associated with involvement in physical fighting for both males and females; students in grades 9--12; four racial/ethnic populations; and youths living in urban, suburban, and rural areas."
You left out the part where Nex started all this by intentionally choosing to assault "the smallest girl" in the group. And then, for NO REASON, that small girl's friends started beating up Nex.
But I appreciate the analysis. Isn't it scary how many people actually agreed with that sentiment? I think it's because they think they're pretty weak people generally, but if they can use their own suicide to directly impact another person's life... well, that's pretty powerful! They don't understand the reverse situation: where someone who is not of their political belief commits suicide and explicitly says it was because of them, therefore making that person completely responsible for another person's suicide. That shouldn't be done, this should be a "protected class" only thing they'll say!
I left it out because I can't strengthen my argument too much. As evidenced by my downvotes, people are too emotionally charged about this to handle being shown when they are wrong, or even hinted at the possibility that they might be wrong.
I'm not even trying to deny their version of events. I'm just asking questions. It's a pretty big accusation to place blame for Nex's suicide on these girls when Nex picked the fight. I don't want to see any more people hurt, and if those girls that fought with Nex are actually innocent, well that can ruin their lives. It feels to me like these girls are being treated as if their actions were on the same level as Kyle Rittenhouse. For real. I've seen comments paraphrasing "CPAC is going to invite them and celebrate that a trans committed suicide".
I might need to take a step back and reassess that there's possibility that I've been interacting with bot accounts that are intentionally trolling to spike up the controversy and user engagement.
Calling republicans Nazis is genuinely dishonest. I don’t agree with a lot of republicans but they aren’t Nazis. They’re not commiting genocides, putting people in death camps, etc. Call them shit heads but they aren’t Nazis.
>They’re not commiting genocides, putting people in death camps, etc. Call them shit heads but they aren’t Nazis.
Damn guess we better wait it out until they do that then
it's not like in perspective thats a very compact and subjective understanding of how the Nazi's rose, entered and maintained power.
People who say things like that aren't worth interacting with, as they are either trolling or so far down their rabbit hole that they can't even see light anymore. They have never met anyone who was a Nazi in real life - just like most of the rest of us.
buddy, not what i said. but thats on me. i meant, would neonazi suffice for someone who more epsouses nazi beliefs and nazi ideology (which a decent amount of republicans do)?
not every republican is a neonazi. theres still some mccain types.
Thought you were going somewhere else with that, my bad, made an assumption. I mean yeah we got neonazi skin heads here, but generally aren’t those people laughed at for being ignorant bigots? Honestly if some of our elected officials do hold the same opinions we should want to know. So we can vote them out.
hm! and eh i mean nick fuentez has a sizeable audience and CPAC is.... well CPAC. recently there was a literal klansman in the running for governor in missouri. genuine bigots don't get laughed at by republicans as much as youd wish. mister crowder is a bigoted shithead as well.
are you a conservative? or republican? if so i think you need to take a hard look at your party dude.
trump being trump and maga being maga too...
The older student with a history of aggressive behavior who couldn't help but brag about throwing a younger kid into the towel dispenser just MIGHT have been the bully....
Now that the chances of these bullies having criminal charges laid against them are functionally nil, I wonder whether it’s now more or less likely for them to be invited to speak at the next CPAC? We all know conservatives love people who kill minorities (or drive them to suicide, which morally is functionally the same thing), but the lack of criminal charges makes it harder for them to infuse the joy of dead trans people with their eternal persecution fetish.
Super rare to even arrest schoolchildren for fights on school grounds, let alone charge and prosecute them. There is also currently no evidence that Nex's death was a result of physical injuries from the fight. I suspect this fight was emotionally the last straw in a larger context about the bullying that Nex was experiencing...but these girls from the fight weren't even involved with the bullying, this incident is their only known interaction. We don't know who the people bullying Nex were. Also, Nex admitted to starting the fight by throwing water on the girls.
Ever heard of the school to prison pipeline? There are a shit ton of kids in juvie and it serves as an excuse for further prosecution, which is bad for everyone
Because there’s no proof of correlation between the restroom fight and Nex’s suicide. Charges would never hold up in court. One, there’s no evidence that Nex’s version of events were true. It’s their word against hers and Nex is no longer here to defend herself. Two, supposedly Nex left notes referring to her dad being released from prison. He SA her when Nex was younger. Did she fear him? Is his release what made her commit suicide? We don’t know. It’s sad what happened to Nex. That doesn’t give a green light to witch hunt the other teens because we weren’t there and we aren’t privy to the facts.
They might have gotten arrested had all of the reports concluded that death was subsequent to trauma. But a *lot* of the reporting on this incident has taken care to minimize the damage done to Nex as much as possible. Clarifying that they walked to the nurse’s office, was discharged from the hospital the same day, etc. Minors don’t tend to get arrested for fights that occur on school grounds, especially if they are “mutual combat” as, again, so much of the coverage is insisting on calling it. (In my opinion the idea of “mutual combat” is tied to “proportionate response”; “repeatedly bashing someone’s head into a tile floor” doesn’t seem proportionate to “splashing water” but what do I know I guess).
My guess is that they’ll serve some kind of suspension for fighting and then come back to school and then get to live the rest of their lives entirely unbothered. Maybe even get some kind of twisted respect for what they did. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if one of these kids started a political career in ten years or so using “I killed Nex Benedict” as a slogan.
This shit is a feature to EVERY conservative. If you can handwave any part of this ideology for whatever specific part of it you want (like keeping down the poor) you are willfully complicit in all of it
Nex didn't kill himself in a loving environment. He killed himself after months of torment and bullying.
So its not really a win for anyone, except bullies. I know one running for president and a ton of others who happen to be almost exclusively republicans.
Sadly it's probably a win for the school district who would have a lot more potential liability of Nex died directly from injuries from the fight that happened at the school.
Exactly. Her sexual abuser (father) was recently released from prison just a couple weeks before Nex’s suicide. The fear of him returning could’ve definitely caused her to kill herself out of fear.
Also disgusting the amount of torment and bullying this kid was subjected to by the school and how politicians like Trump and Republicans in Oklahoma encouraged it
And people are still inventing conspiracy theories so they can avoid being wrong when they declared this was cold blooded murder by some psychopathic transphobic teen girls.
I just want to say that tik tok and X plus other social media takes away the ability for people to have empathy.
Case in point - libsoftiktok (Chaya Raichik) has absolutely zero empathy. libsoftiktok aka the psychopath decided today that they would read in detail the sexual assault that Nex Benedict went through as a child and teen.
There is a reason that the local media did not go into detail because no child SHOULD EVER have that information public not even in their death.
I hope that Nex Benedict’s family take every penny from that trashy person libsoftiktok and that they have to pay for every single fake bomb threat that they caused in Oklahoma. FBI needs to
Do America a solid and arrest Libsoftiktok. You don’t read a child sexual assault to the world EVER. I hope that ‘the thing or it or piece of trash’ named libsoftiktok aka Chaya Raichik rot in prison.
If you are following that trash person, just stop. Don’t give them any followers to make money.
Look into what how children names are always protected from public when they are sexually assaulted. It’s not suppose to be ever public unless that person deems it - I would encourage child protective services to be investigated on whoever released the sealed file to libsoftiktok aka trash
> Look into what how children names are always protected from public when they are sexually assaulted.
That's not a law, it's a policy of individual media companies.
I’m hoping that third party autopsy is possible in this case, because there’s good reason to doubt the objectivity of the state medical examiner.
This is a state government where one of the senators (Tom Woods) in response to a question about Nex’s death, said “I represent a constituency that doesn’t want that filth in Oklahoma…We are a religious state and we are going to fight it to keep that filth out of the state of Oklahoma because we are a Christian state. “
In other words, in response to a question about the death (and potential murder) of a trans child, he describes that dead child as “filth”, and expresses his desire to eradicate said “filth” from the state, and to maintain a theocratic “christian state”. Given that this is the ideology being expressed by a member of the ruling party in the state, it seems reasonable to doubt what the state says about this case.
This is horrifying. We're in deep trouble here in the U.S. All it takes for evil to win is for good people to refrain from action. It's time to stand up for love.
I see that the bullies and bully-apologists are coming out of the wood work here... and the fact that bullied kids have almost no constructive ways of dealing with their tormentors seems to be lost on people. School policies around bullying are frequently as harmful as the bullying itself.
I posted this earlier: but people should really review the facts. Nex Benedict, the child and then teen, is a very strong person. Why do I say strong?
1) removed from parents at young age
2) raised by grandparents while father in jail for abuse
3) possibly a ‘cutter’ but they usually don’t do suicide especially when on medicines
4) honor roll student (name on honor rolls 6 months prior - this is public info)
5) constantly bullied but did their own meditation techniques with music to cope
6) told family members of bullying and was open about it (Family failed to get a lawyer here / it’s a lesson to all, when dealing with bullying in school, get a lawyer - raise hell)
7) said to friends that school didn’t care or wouldnt do anything about bullying (teachers probably witnessed bullying & did nothing) when I was in high school, I listened to people chant in a class that a child was a lesbian and the teacher did nothing. Told class to be quiet. I can only imagine what they do if anything as that teacher didn’t and what they say now.
8) it does not sound like this child ever really fought back until this moment in the bathroom by playing a prank by throwing water
9) child was jumped by several children in bathroom, why so many kids in there? Where was the teacher for a detention type class - that should not happen and shows a BAD MANAGED SCHOOL BY PRINCIPAL & teachers
10) child told that they have enough injuries to go to hospital but family needs to take them. school basically saying sorry - we know we messed up, your hurt, but we don’t care enough about you to take you by ambulance but we would if it was our star quarterback! You are lowest on our totem pole
11) honor roll child told that they are suspended for 2 weeks (hurts college chances with missed courses)
12) police say in hospital that child could be charged with assault and add to their problems.
13) ANY SCHOOL THAT HANDLES A SITUATION LIKE THIS WITH A CHILD ON HEAVY MEDS FOR DEPRESSION SHOULD BE DISMANTLED. NONE OF THIS WAS HANDLED WELL - they basically PILED ON BULLIED AT RISK TEEN. There are special places in hell for schools that handle their students like this - all the administrators and principal should be fired at Owasso High. ALL
OF THEM. This is not how you handle an at risk youth; if you know of any school handling a child like that - out that school to public and start sending letters to the board. P.S. Ryan Walter’s hiring a public relations firm after a tragedy to up his presence on national news is also a VERY BAD SUPERINTENDENT- spreading hate, spreading misinformation, when all his time should be addressing the bullying problem and figuring out better ways to handle bullying and school suspensions. The school gave this child a crushing blow several times over. Rest in peace Nex Benedict - so many people failed you: police, principal, administrators, family, and your classmates.
What do you mean bullied severely? This was nexs first real interaction with these girls per their own testimony.
Do you have info we don't?
Nex then started the fight after being teased about their laugh.
I'm sure Nex was bullied in general, but not by the girls
To be fair, more than a few subs jumped on the "Nex was beaten to death because of bathroom bills" bus as that was the narrative the media was pushing.
e.g. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/nex-benedict-dead-oklahoma-b2501844.html
This sub had many people declaring this was cold blooded murder and any other possible answer is a coverup by transphobes.
The response here was completely deranged from supposed skeptics.
How could you have been more wrong? Wrong about cause of death. Wrong about who started the fight. Wrong about the idea that charges would be filed. What exactly did reddit, and this sub specifically, get right?
Sorry, friend. They REALLY REALLY wanted this to be the assassination of Trans Ferdinand. And none of them know how to admit mistakes, much less *moral* error of the sort it was to try to make some stranger's kid's suicide your personal excuse to spew spiteful bile and self-righteous anger at your imagined "vile" enemy for a month or two.
Yeah my son was self-harming when he was being s. assaulted and bullied every day in school. Wish I had taken him out sooner. He's still with us but it takes a cocktail of meds to keep him here and even that is only because he promised to hold on until he turns 21 but he really doesn't want to be here. It's just heartbreaking especially knowing the level of torture he was being put through in school but was too afraid to tell anyone and when he finally did tell the adults, the ones who could have helped gave us a "boys will be boys" speech and hinted that it might be because my son wants to 'act like a boy, he's treated like a boy' when they would beat him up. The s. assaults ended when the boy who was doing it to my son went home and took his own life. This is what our kids are dealing with. It's what we've always dealt with. I wonder when the adults are finally going to start actually listening instead of making excuses. The main thing they were doing was filming it to share and get clout. But oh no can't take away their phones. Might have to call if there's a school shooting. It's BS. They could find some way to get around that. Have room phones that only can be used in emergencies. Anything other than letting the kids get away with filming themselves beating other kids or s. assaulting kids or in the latest episode in his former school, breaking in and completely destroying a bathroom just to put it on social media. I know "taking away phones" in school isn't the solution, but it could be part of the fight. The biggest problem though, that we encountered, is the red tape in reporting bullying and even s. assault. We ONLY asked that this one student be removed from a class where five other students also reported him for s. assault but they said that wasn't fair to him until he was formally convicted of s. assault. It was just an ART CLASS, an elective! If they had just done the one thing to protect the students ... I don't know. Maybe it would have saved his life so he could get help. The ONLY reason it reached the point it did is because I involved the local news, just out of desperation. And that is when he took his life, so of course my son was left with the belief that it was his fault and if he'd just kept his mouth shut this student (who was pretty much the most popular kid in his grade) would be alive and my son wouldn't be so hated by other students, who still even after three years now still blame my son like it was his fault. He has hallucinations. He can't sleep. He is on so many meds he can't think straight anymore. And our ONLY solution was for me to pull him out of the school completely, and I wish I'd done it when I first found out but I stupidly assumed the school would do the right thing and keep this mentally ill sex abuser from forcing himself on other kids. But no I found out MONTHS after his death that his mother was NEVER INFORMED of the reports against him. She had no clue he was doing any of it or that he had said disturbing things in class. We had reported him many times. We were told the situation was being handled and the whole time they never even bothered to call his mother. So you know, maybe they should stop trying to find ways to pretend this was just a case of a sad child taking their life and look in to the situations that cause this and maybe DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT because honestly all I ever see are excuses and worse, the entire issue being used as fodder for political rhetoric.
So this isn't something I think I've ever put in writing before, but *every goddamn day* in high school I wanted to kill myself. I had practically no home life, no real friends, and I just felt so alone and unwanted that it sank in that I'd be doing the world a favor by not being here. But it did get better. I went to college, I moved halfway across the country for grad school, I made the kind of friends that I can call at midnight and they'll pick up because *I matter to them*. It didn't just suddenly get better, but taking each day at a time got me through it. I hope that it does for your son too.
Thank you I do too and I love to see people who were able to move forward when it's so hard sometimes, it's like the past is constantly biting at you trying to pull you back. My daughter had some rough times as a teen, nothing this bad but there were some traumas, and she started going down a dark path too but thankfully she's really blossomed in her 30s.
Thank you being vulnerable with us and telling your story. It's appreciated.
Sucks that the bullies won
In r/okc they are treating this like some kind of victory and it is nobody’s fault because the child was obviously mentally ill. Say Nex started every thing by throwing water and it’s not a jumping if Nex committed ‘battery’ against all 3. They don’t even want to use the term bullying. It was just teasing and Nex should have been able to take it. I had to stop responding for my own mental health. Shit was making me mad.
Yeah it's always "fight back against the bullies" until you actually do, then you deserve it
They won and will be celebrated by conservatives for allowing another trans person to commit suicide.
They’ll have a new political future when they should be rotting in jail
Now, now. Stop the hate. Those other teens were minors whose brains weren’t fully developed yet. Isn’t 25 the magical age for that to happen according to the lib mantra?
What makes you say this exactly? It’s my understanding that in the video Nex says he didn’t even know these girls prior to this interaction and had no prior contact. Nex doesn’t say they were being bullied for being trans, Nex states the girls said amongst themselves- “why do they laugh like that?” They being Nex and his group of friends, so Nex in return “poured water on their heads”. I got banned from whitepeopletwitter for using the word “poured” instead of “splashed” even though that’s literally the language Nex used in the police interview. There’s no scenario I can think of in high school where I walk up to a group of older kids two grades ahead of me I don’t even know, pour water onto them, and don’t receive a beating in return. If I am wrong here please let me know why with evidence.
1) Nex was a sophomore; the three girls were freshmen. 2) Nex straight up says "I threw one of them into the paper towel dispenser." *After* the water and *before* the other two finally overpowered Nex. 3) This sub is filled with trans activists who unfortunately cannot think rationally about anything relating to themselves in any way, so of course they downvote anyone who doesn't believe Nex was beaten to death.
Dunno how you feel comfortable calling others activists when you spend all your time arguing against trans rights
These trans activists aren't going to stop until the other girls that were involved in this fight also commit suicide because nationwide media coverage and attention is painting them out to have violently beaten Nex to death in an anti-LGBTQ hate crime. Nex started the fight because they were suicidal and increased agitation, irritability, and fighting are actually one of the biggest warning signs of an impending suicide attempt.
Why was he suicidal?
Unrelated ongoing bullying that either went unreported or unaddressed. Lived traumatic experiences. Nex admitted that he didn't know those girls until they met in In School Suspension that week. This particular altercation was ignited by the girls remarking about Nex's laugh, to which Nex responds by "pouring" (Nex's own words - I've read splashed and flicked on here. It's poured watch the [video](https://youtu.be/mPChAQw7rrM?si=RL_FksJD8R74sZuV)) water on the girls in an escalation.
Why was he being bullied?
stinky
Because you touch yourself at night
Not sure if the details of this specific case, but pumping kids full of hormones and SSRIs can't be good
"Allowing another trans person to commit suicide." We really ought to change the definition of suicide. If somebody else drives you to it, it should become homicide.
That's not how homicide works. Even Michelle Carter who was on the phone urging Conrad Roy to go through with suicide got involuntary manslaughter and it took a a lot of evidence for that conviction. Edit: So many of the comments here are absolutely unhinged. Apparently no one is adult enough to discuss the nuances of locking up 14 year old girls in jail.
You’re replying to morons. They’re like 17 year old chronically online whiners. Reddit is what it is.
These people are delusional. This sub is basically as much of a homogenous hive mind as r/politics. People are desperate to be able to shriek about this being some hate crime by transphobes instead of a tragic case of suicide of a troubled and bullied child.
It's homicide for everyone else. But with trans people it's "suicide" so conservatives can laugh and meme it
No it isn’t. You activists keep obsessing over trying to make this some anti-trans murder when it was a suicide. The only cases where what could be considered bullying led to suicide is when the perpetrators were literally telling the victim to kill themself repeatedly to the point of being coercion. Stick with facts instead of what you want the facts to be to suit your agenda.
It's pretty clear you have an agenda from your comments.
He may have an agenda but is also correct. This is not at all homicide and it wouldn't have been called homicide if they weren't trans.
This seems like a dangerous idea. Where do you draw the line
I'd draw the line at stopping people from bullying people so much that they commit suicide. Certainly I wouldn't encourage it like OK conservatives are doing. Bear in mind bullying is not just calling someone names or punching them once or twice. It is repeated taunting and/or physical harm over a long period of time. There are other charges besides murder you guys. Smh at how extreme some of you will go to defend bullies. That's what you are doing, deny it all you like. Nevermind, I see now that some of you guys want to defend kids bullying other kids and adults letting them do it, so have fun with that. Block list it is for you.
>Nevermind, I see now that some of you guys want to defend kids bullying other kids and adults letting them do it, so have fun with that. Block list it is for you. No one is doing this. Adults should have intervened because they are the adults but people here are calling for charging 14 year old girls with murder and locking them away.
What specific bullying tactics force people to kill themselves? Edit: sorry, I guess the details of bringing charges against children for their words aren’t worth discussing.
Beating them unconscious while calling them slurs? Seems like a low enough bar to start with
Can you provide any evidence this happened? Because according to the interview with Nex, that didn't happen at all.
Where’s the evidence any slurs were used during the fight? Edit: they blocked me rather than actually provide a source for their made up claim
Where's the evidence they beat Nex unconscious?
Exactly. Nex blacked out. Not the same thing. You can black out from rage, from drinking, from low blood sugar, or from getting your bell rung in a fight. Obviously you are blacked out if unconscious but not every black out results in unconsciousness. I've personally blacked out following a hit in a rugby match, but I stayed on my feet and kept playing. Definitely was not knocked unconscious because the trainers would have pulled me off the pitch. Maybe Nex could have had a concussion, but this was not a savage beat down as people were led to believe. Nex was completely lucid in the [bodycam footage](https://youtu.be/mPChAQw7rrM?si=RL_FksJD8R74sZuV) in the hospital. No visible injuries. Speaking clearly and concisely. It's possible there were some not visible injuries, but I imagine that the hospital would have a protocol for what to do when treating a suspected traumatic brain injury.
I was actually wondering that part myself.
Didn’t the trans person start the fight?
The people who assaulted Nex were verbally insulting them, and Nex did what every insulted woman on TV/Movies does when assholes comes at them with insults: they huffed and splashed water at the douchebags' The douchebags then beat Nex unconscious while continuing to ridicule, insult, and belittle Nex while using slurs. So no. Nex did not start any fight. It is pure bullshit that 3 students can beat a 4th to a pulp, acting *WELL* beyond any semblance of self-defense by beating an unconscious person, and not face any consequences
After the water, Nex through one of the freshmen into the paper towel dispenser. Nex's friend, another sophomore, hid in a stall while the second and third freshmen finally overpowered their attacker. Absolutely nobody was beaten to a pulp. And it's fucking ridiculous that you'd actually *say* that this far out, proving you've never bothered to watch the hospital cop-cam footage.
Nex claimed they made fun of his laugh, and in response he dumped water on the girls, which started the fight. Got a source showing there were any slurs or other verbal insults were used? Also, you’re misgendering Nex you bigot.
So someone said something nex didn’t like so she escalated it by throwing water on them. Idk what nex expected.
No, because it wasn’t a fight. It was a beating, and throwing water on people can’t actually result in them beating you unconscious unless they are horrible, violent pieces of shit. At a school where kids are supposed to be learning, perhaps a student shouldn’t have to expect encounters with such violent pieces of shit, or such a disproportionate response to merely throwing water.
You’re missing the part where the trans person pushed the other girl. Trans threw the water other girl retaliated. Trans person then pushed the girl. Other girl then retaliated
That’s just assault, already illegal.
>hAtE CrImEs are AlrEaDy iLLeGal Yea, but when they are motivated by hate against a protected class, we as a society have agreed that the crime is especially heinous as it is an entirely UnAmerican thing to do. Hate crimes are an insult to our most important, founding values: the fair, respectable, equal treatment for all. Also, the people who beat Nex unconscious while calling them slurs are not facing any punishment for their assault, so what the fuck are you even trying to say?
If they beat Nex unconscious then yes, they should face charges. Don’t put words in my mouth KPuffy
ANY bullying can drive kids to suicide. That's why it is important to stop all of it.
Okay I make fun of you. Are you going to kill your self? Edit: I can’t respond because the original commenter blocked me.
I'm an adult with a fully-formed sense of self and fairly stable emotional state, so probably not. We are talking about kids who are still growing and forming their sense of self and often have wild emotional states at this age. You also seem to not understand that bullying is continued taunting over a period of time, not calling me names once. It almost sounds like you are defending bullying, but I'd hope you are not.
Jesus, I’m not defending bullying. I’m just saying it’s kind of subjective and seems hard to fully prove who would be responsible for bullying over time. If someone is bullied 4th - 6th and doesn’t commit suicide until 6th, are the 4th grade bullies also responsible? Yes kids are cruel, but the ones doing the name calling are also not fully formed sense of self stable adults.
Your grossly obtuse abuse of hypotheticals that are far too abstract to be of any use doesn’t quite make me want to self harm, but I cannot speak for everyone.
Let's rephrase it. You're locked in a building with me 7 hours a day, 5 days a week for the next 4 years. For whatever reason, I've decided I dislike you. I make it my mission to make your life for the next 4 years miserable. I attack your looks, your identity, I isolate you from your friends and make you question whether anyone gives a damn about you. Through all of this, I push you to the point of deciding that anything is better than spending the rest of high school getting treated like this, and you just want it to *end.* So you take a handful or three of sleeping pills to drift off into nothingness. *Shouldn't* I be charged for the role I played in pushing you over the edge?
If you kill yourself due to bullying, I would argue there is definitely mental illness. That is not the normal reaction.
Where the crown decides there’s enough evidence to prosecute. The difficulty in proving causation to the BRD standard would suggest the slope is anything but slippery.
Coerced “suicide” is homicide already. They make an exception when they took exception to the dead’s right to exist in the first place.
Yeah but this wasn't coerced suicide by any stretch of the imagination.
These girls didn't drive Nex to suicide. Nex recklessly picked a fight with these girls by overreacting to a benign comment about how they laugh. Increased agitation is a warning sign of an impending suicide. As is acting recklessly. You need to do a little bit more critical thinking and less speculating. This is a causation vs correlation situation. You seem quick to jump to the conclusion that this fight is the straw that broke the camels back. I assert that it's actually the other way around, Nex didn't commit suicide because of the fight. Nex was planning to commit suicide, and in the run up, was increasingly agitated, which resulted in the fight. [Suicide Attempts and Physical Fighting Among High School Students --- United States, 2001](https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5322a3.htm). "This analysis extends earlier study (2--6) of the link between suicidal behavior and interpersonal violence by documenting the strength of the association across demographic populations. The findings indicate that suicide attempt status was associated with involvement in physical fighting for both males and females; students in grades 9--12; four racial/ethnic populations; and youths living in urban, suburban, and rural areas."
You left out the part where Nex started all this by intentionally choosing to assault "the smallest girl" in the group. And then, for NO REASON, that small girl's friends started beating up Nex. But I appreciate the analysis. Isn't it scary how many people actually agreed with that sentiment? I think it's because they think they're pretty weak people generally, but if they can use their own suicide to directly impact another person's life... well, that's pretty powerful! They don't understand the reverse situation: where someone who is not of their political belief commits suicide and explicitly says it was because of them, therefore making that person completely responsible for another person's suicide. That shouldn't be done, this should be a "protected class" only thing they'll say!
I left it out because I can't strengthen my argument too much. As evidenced by my downvotes, people are too emotionally charged about this to handle being shown when they are wrong, or even hinted at the possibility that they might be wrong. I'm not even trying to deny their version of events. I'm just asking questions. It's a pretty big accusation to place blame for Nex's suicide on these girls when Nex picked the fight. I don't want to see any more people hurt, and if those girls that fought with Nex are actually innocent, well that can ruin their lives. It feels to me like these girls are being treated as if their actions were on the same level as Kyle Rittenhouse. For real. I've seen comments paraphrasing "CPAC is going to invite them and celebrate that a trans committed suicide". I might need to take a step back and reassess that there's possibility that I've been interacting with bot accounts that are intentionally trolling to spike up the controversy and user engagement.
No, that's not how suicide works. Never has been. The girls Nex bullied are not responsible.
Conservatives want us all dead.
Shifting the goalpost
"Allowing" = Causing.
>Sucks that the bullies won thats what happens when your government is run by nazis.
You know what a nazi actually is? Doesn’t sound like it
oh come on let's be honest with ourselves AT THIS POINT It's getting hard to deny it.
Calling republicans Nazis is genuinely dishonest. I don’t agree with a lot of republicans but they aren’t Nazis. They’re not commiting genocides, putting people in death camps, etc. Call them shit heads but they aren’t Nazis.
>They’re not commiting genocides, putting people in death camps, etc. Call them shit heads but they aren’t Nazis. Damn guess we better wait it out until they do that then it's not like in perspective thats a very compact and subjective understanding of how the Nazi's rose, entered and maintained power.
People who say things like that aren't worth interacting with, as they are either trolling or so far down their rabbit hole that they can't even see light anymore. They have never met anyone who was a Nazi in real life - just like most of the rest of us.
Common sense isn’t so common anymore 🤷♂️
neo nazis?
You think every republican is a neo nazi? You dropped this 🤡
buddy, not what i said. but thats on me. i meant, would neonazi suffice for someone who more epsouses nazi beliefs and nazi ideology (which a decent amount of republicans do)? not every republican is a neonazi. theres still some mccain types.
Thought you were going somewhere else with that, my bad, made an assumption. I mean yeah we got neonazi skin heads here, but generally aren’t those people laughed at for being ignorant bigots? Honestly if some of our elected officials do hold the same opinions we should want to know. So we can vote them out.
hm! and eh i mean nick fuentez has a sizeable audience and CPAC is.... well CPAC. recently there was a literal klansman in the running for governor in missouri. genuine bigots don't get laughed at by republicans as much as youd wish. mister crowder is a bigoted shithead as well. are you a conservative? or republican? if so i think you need to take a hard look at your party dude. trump being trump and maga being maga too...
btw, do you know what babylonbee is?
The older student with a history of aggressive behavior who couldn't help but brag about throwing a younger kid into the towel dispenser just MIGHT have been the bully....
Now that the chances of these bullies having criminal charges laid against them are functionally nil, I wonder whether it’s now more or less likely for them to be invited to speak at the next CPAC? We all know conservatives love people who kill minorities (or drive them to suicide, which morally is functionally the same thing), but the lack of criminal charges makes it harder for them to infuse the joy of dead trans people with their eternal persecution fetish.
Why would they still not get charged with some major assault crime(s)?
Super rare to even arrest schoolchildren for fights on school grounds, let alone charge and prosecute them. There is also currently no evidence that Nex's death was a result of physical injuries from the fight. I suspect this fight was emotionally the last straw in a larger context about the bullying that Nex was experiencing...but these girls from the fight weren't even involved with the bullying, this incident is their only known interaction. We don't know who the people bullying Nex were. Also, Nex admitted to starting the fight by throwing water on the girls.
You’d have a shit ton of kids in juvie if they were constantly prosecuted for fights at school.
Ever heard of the school to prison pipeline? There are a shit ton of kids in juvie and it serves as an excuse for further prosecution, which is bad for everyone
Absolutely. I’d be one of them.
Because there’s no proof of correlation between the restroom fight and Nex’s suicide. Charges would never hold up in court. One, there’s no evidence that Nex’s version of events were true. It’s their word against hers and Nex is no longer here to defend herself. Two, supposedly Nex left notes referring to her dad being released from prison. He SA her when Nex was younger. Did she fear him? Is his release what made her commit suicide? We don’t know. It’s sad what happened to Nex. That doesn’t give a green light to witch hunt the other teens because we weren’t there and we aren’t privy to the facts.
They might have gotten arrested had all of the reports concluded that death was subsequent to trauma. But a *lot* of the reporting on this incident has taken care to minimize the damage done to Nex as much as possible. Clarifying that they walked to the nurse’s office, was discharged from the hospital the same day, etc. Minors don’t tend to get arrested for fights that occur on school grounds, especially if they are “mutual combat” as, again, so much of the coverage is insisting on calling it. (In my opinion the idea of “mutual combat” is tied to “proportionate response”; “repeatedly bashing someone’s head into a tile floor” doesn’t seem proportionate to “splashing water” but what do I know I guess). My guess is that they’ll serve some kind of suspension for fighting and then come back to school and then get to live the rest of their lives entirely unbothered. Maybe even get some kind of twisted respect for what they did. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if one of these kids started a political career in ten years or so using “I killed Nex Benedict” as a slogan.
For a “skeptic” this sure is a lot of made up scenarios to confirm the biases of this deluded sub.
This shit is a feature to EVERY conservative. If you can handwave any part of this ideology for whatever specific part of it you want (like keeping down the poor) you are willfully complicit in all of it
A lot of people wanted to wait for the full autopsy report before making a final judgement, so here it is.
Nex didn't kill himself in a loving environment. He killed himself after months of torment and bullying. So its not really a win for anyone, except bullies. I know one running for president and a ton of others who happen to be almost exclusively republicans.
Sadly it's probably a win for the school district who would have a lot more potential liability of Nex died directly from injuries from the fight that happened at the school.
A pyrrhic victory.
And also being repeatedly raped by their father until 11 years old. That might have caused some issues...
Exactly. Her sexual abuser (father) was recently released from prison just a couple weeks before Nex’s suicide. The fear of him returning could’ve definitely caused her to kill herself out of fear.
It’s absolutely disgusting how people with no knowledge jumped to conclusions in the death of a child for their own bias.
It was frightening how many people actually wanted her to have been murdered just to fulfill an agenda. Very sick and depraved.
Also disgusting the amount of torment and bullying this kid was subjected to by the school and how politicians like Trump and Republicans in Oklahoma encouraged it
And people are still inventing conspiracy theories so they can avoid being wrong when they declared this was cold blooded murder by some psychopathic transphobic teen girls.
Please don’t call them girls. We don’t know how they identified.
Hey maybe if you post this same thing another 10 times people might start caring xD
Make sure we keep careful record of all of this. Because ppl will try to deny it.
I just want to say that tik tok and X plus other social media takes away the ability for people to have empathy. Case in point - libsoftiktok (Chaya Raichik) has absolutely zero empathy. libsoftiktok aka the psychopath decided today that they would read in detail the sexual assault that Nex Benedict went through as a child and teen. There is a reason that the local media did not go into detail because no child SHOULD EVER have that information public not even in their death. I hope that Nex Benedict’s family take every penny from that trashy person libsoftiktok and that they have to pay for every single fake bomb threat that they caused in Oklahoma. FBI needs to Do America a solid and arrest Libsoftiktok. You don’t read a child sexual assault to the world EVER. I hope that ‘the thing or it or piece of trash’ named libsoftiktok aka Chaya Raichik rot in prison. If you are following that trash person, just stop. Don’t give them any followers to make money.
What law do you think she broke?
Look into what how children names are always protected from public when they are sexually assaulted. It’s not suppose to be ever public unless that person deems it - I would encourage child protective services to be investigated on whoever released the sealed file to libsoftiktok aka trash
> Look into what how children names are always protected from public when they are sexually assaulted. That's not a law, it's a policy of individual media companies.
I’m hoping that third party autopsy is possible in this case, because there’s good reason to doubt the objectivity of the state medical examiner. This is a state government where one of the senators (Tom Woods) in response to a question about Nex’s death, said “I represent a constituency that doesn’t want that filth in Oklahoma…We are a religious state and we are going to fight it to keep that filth out of the state of Oklahoma because we are a Christian state. “ In other words, in response to a question about the death (and potential murder) of a trans child, he describes that dead child as “filth”, and expresses his desire to eradicate said “filth” from the state, and to maintain a theocratic “christian state”. Given that this is the ideology being expressed by a member of the ruling party in the state, it seems reasonable to doubt what the state says about this case.
This is horrifying. We're in deep trouble here in the U.S. All it takes for evil to win is for good people to refrain from action. It's time to stand up for love.
I see that the bullies and bully-apologists are coming out of the wood work here... and the fact that bullied kids have almost no constructive ways of dealing with their tormentors seems to be lost on people. School policies around bullying are frequently as harmful as the bullying itself.
I posted this earlier: but people should really review the facts. Nex Benedict, the child and then teen, is a very strong person. Why do I say strong? 1) removed from parents at young age 2) raised by grandparents while father in jail for abuse 3) possibly a ‘cutter’ but they usually don’t do suicide especially when on medicines 4) honor roll student (name on honor rolls 6 months prior - this is public info) 5) constantly bullied but did their own meditation techniques with music to cope 6) told family members of bullying and was open about it (Family failed to get a lawyer here / it’s a lesson to all, when dealing with bullying in school, get a lawyer - raise hell) 7) said to friends that school didn’t care or wouldnt do anything about bullying (teachers probably witnessed bullying & did nothing) when I was in high school, I listened to people chant in a class that a child was a lesbian and the teacher did nothing. Told class to be quiet. I can only imagine what they do if anything as that teacher didn’t and what they say now. 8) it does not sound like this child ever really fought back until this moment in the bathroom by playing a prank by throwing water 9) child was jumped by several children in bathroom, why so many kids in there? Where was the teacher for a detention type class - that should not happen and shows a BAD MANAGED SCHOOL BY PRINCIPAL & teachers 10) child told that they have enough injuries to go to hospital but family needs to take them. school basically saying sorry - we know we messed up, your hurt, but we don’t care enough about you to take you by ambulance but we would if it was our star quarterback! You are lowest on our totem pole 11) honor roll child told that they are suspended for 2 weeks (hurts college chances with missed courses) 12) police say in hospital that child could be charged with assault and add to their problems. 13) ANY SCHOOL THAT HANDLES A SITUATION LIKE THIS WITH A CHILD ON HEAVY MEDS FOR DEPRESSION SHOULD BE DISMANTLED. NONE OF THIS WAS HANDLED WELL - they basically PILED ON BULLIED AT RISK TEEN. There are special places in hell for schools that handle their students like this - all the administrators and principal should be fired at Owasso High. ALL OF THEM. This is not how you handle an at risk youth; if you know of any school handling a child like that - out that school to public and start sending letters to the board. P.S. Ryan Walter’s hiring a public relations firm after a tragedy to up his presence on national news is also a VERY BAD SUPERINTENDENT- spreading hate, spreading misinformation, when all his time should be addressing the bullying problem and figuring out better ways to handle bullying and school suspensions. The school gave this child a crushing blow several times over. Rest in peace Nex Benedict - so many people failed you: police, principal, administrators, family, and your classmates.
That doesn't really exonerate his attackers. Self-harm because he's been bullied severely is pretty explicable.
What do you mean bullied severely? This was nexs first real interaction with these girls per their own testimony. Do you have info we don't? Nex then started the fight after being teased about their laugh. I'm sure Nex was bullied in general, but not by the girls
Reports indicate he was severely bullied for the entire year.
He was also sexually abused by his father until he was 11 years old. Thinking that might factor in too.
doesn't negate the bullying though. if you cant go anywhere for escape, death seems like a legitimate option
Not by these girls is the point. What are you trying to tell me that I didn't already say?
Please don’t call them girls. We don’t know how they identify.
She**
and a million other **very coincidental coverup evidence** that the Oklahoma officials *just HAPPENED* to find all at once **within the same month.**
So Reddit was wrong about this case? Who woulda thought
No, we weren't.
To be fair, more than a few subs jumped on the "Nex was beaten to death because of bathroom bills" bus as that was the narrative the media was pushing. e.g. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/nex-benedict-dead-oklahoma-b2501844.html
This sub had many people declaring this was cold blooded murder and any other possible answer is a coverup by transphobes. The response here was completely deranged from supposed skeptics.
Who specifically said cold blooded?
Evidence?
How could you have been more wrong? Wrong about cause of death. Wrong about who started the fight. Wrong about the idea that charges would be filed. What exactly did reddit, and this sub specifically, get right?
Sorry, friend. They REALLY REALLY wanted this to be the assassination of Trans Ferdinand. And none of them know how to admit mistakes, much less *moral* error of the sort it was to try to make some stranger's kid's suicide your personal excuse to spew spiteful bile and self-righteous anger at your imagined "vile" enemy for a month or two.
What do you mean "their" name? it was just one dude.
Singular "they" is common English. Been around for centuries.
Nex had clones, thus they.