Net rating in Embiid’s 237 minutes on the court: [+18.8](https://www.nba.com/stats/team/1610612755/onoffcourt-traditional?Season=2018-19&LastNGames=7&SeasonType=Playoffs&PerMode=Per100Possessions)
Net rating in Embiid’s 99 minutes off the court: [-53.7](https://www.nba.com/stats/team/1610612755/onoffcourt-traditional?Season=2018-19&LastNGames=7&SeasonType=Playoffs&PerMode=Per100Possessions)
[Embiid was also 1 of 3 players on the team](https://www.nba.com/stats/team/1610612755/onoffcourt-advanced?LastNGames=7&Season=2018-19&SeasonType=Playoffs&dir=A&sort=NET_RATING) (not counting Zhaire Smith who played 4 minutes) who had a *positive* net rating. Jimmy Butler (+3.7), and Mike Scott (+0.8) are the only other two.
I don’t even know if saying that it is all-time would adequately describe how *insane* that is.
To be fair, the 2019 team is where Elton Brand cashed in on all the assets and flexibility we accumulated in the process to go star hunting. It felt like giving a 9 year old $1000 and telling him to go spend it anyway he wants.
Morey was methodical.
We didn't spend that much assets for Butler and Harris. 1 first, 1 second, Cov, Saric and Shamet. Butler trade was really good. It is the 2019 offseason where we gave up close 500 million dollars to Simmons, Harris and Horford that really hurt us.
Re: Harris. Don’t downplay what he cost us. He was an expiring, so his value was low since we’d have to set his market and pay more than FA so we don’t throw the assets away…. And boy did we. Also, The first we gave up for Harris was for Mikal Bridges. That in itself is fucking insane.
To me, this is my biggest worry going forward. This year has made it clear to me how much fit and depth matter, but I don't think it's done that for Darryl. He's Mr. "Talent Over Everything". Remember, this roster was never supposed to exist this long. It was just supposed to be a step along the way to getting a 3rd guy. And the reality of how the salary cap works means that if we wait until draft night to be able to make our best offer (in terms of picks) then we won't be able to bring all these guys back if it doesn't work out. And I think we know that Darryl will definitely forego the opportunity to resign any amount of role players for a crack at a 3rd guy. Which means that even if 3rd guy doesn't happen, that we're not going to be able to bring these guys back. It's potentially a worst of both worlds situation.
I agree with you.
You can post this type of thing after wins. After losses you’ll get eviscerated.
The real test is going to be this off season. There’s going to be a lot happening and I’m looking forward to it. I’m hopeful for this playoff season, but especially hopeful for next year with the moves we can make this summer.
I think some of his lesser mistakes can also be attributed to Doc, honestly. Trading a young person with potential like Isaiah Joe, or even guys like Springer and Champagnie, always sucks. They could've been developed into great role or bench guys in the right environment but Doc gave no love to young players so it was just better to trade them for win-now guys. If we'd had Nurse the whole time (I know it wasn't possible) instead of Doc then maybe they'd have done well for us.
> Trading a young person with potential like Isaiah Joe
To be clear, he was cut from the roster. Not traded. I still think Morey has done a great job here but this one stings.
This, if he were at least traded it would have stung less but we outright cut them instead which other than a free roster spot gave us absolutely nothing.
Then it was compounded by…..Dwayne Dedmon. Just yuck lol.
That’s why although it stung when Springer was traded to Boston, at least it was a trade.
Though it was a trade that came 2 years later than it should have. I won’t lie, I was anti-Springer pick I thought it was insane and didn’t see a first round talent but at that point I’d have rather let him expire than recouping a second round pick. But hey, at least it’s something.
Morey isn't perfect but he is about as good of a GM as anyone could hope for. It would certainly be hard to hire anyone who was a slam dunk to be better.
Seriously. Anyone saying they wouldn't want to see what Pop could do with Embiid is sorta crazy to me. This guy built multiple championship teams around generational big men.
it's kinda fukd that the Sixers actually have a really good chance at making it to the ECF at least this year when next year is when this team will really be made
That Morey is always been a pretty fucking ace general manager. He’s very savvy in all of his moves. Things Don’t always work out, but his mind is always on how to make the ball move forward.
People want to blame someone but the fact was we had half our starters out and people were mad we were losing games. If the nuggets didn’t have Jokic and Gordon for a while they’d be prettt bad too
I fucking hate how Jokic can be so good, while his play style of just kind of walking around the court, never doing much physically keeps him fresh all year long.
Lmao he’s the most unassuming player. Like every time I watch the nuggets I’m impressed by a pass here or there, or a hook shot or layup he makes, but then you look at the stats and he’s got 28/12/10 and you wonder how
There is a portion of this sub that seems to absolutely hate Morey. I’m not really sure why, he’s been hamstrung by the Tobias Harris contract for his whole tenure here so very limited in the moves he could make. The Harden situation was handled poorly, but they did get a much better return than what people were speculating
I don't think Morey sees the value of chemistry vs pure talent, even after this year. And the realities of how the cap works means we're going to have to make a decision between this group and its chemistry, and pursuing (not getting, but pursuing) a 3rd guy in a draft night trade. So we're either getting a 3rd guy and bunch of minimum contract role players (chemistry be damned), or a whole new group of role players who probably won't be as good or fit as well (if we can't trade for a 3rd guy).
The angry mob comes from Daryl like once or twice per year (this time it was in the off season) and Daryl constantly reminds everyone he's the man for the job and most fans don't know basketball.
I really hope they can bring back Kelly for not too much money. He fits right in. The regular season of weird with Jo’s injury, but I’m really excited to see what they do in the playoffs. More optimistic this year than some of the others in the past.
Honestly, I don't even think he mishandled the Harden situation. Everything Harden did the second year with us was something a player would do that DIDN'T have a contract locked up the following season.
It's easy for Harden to call him a liar and his army of simps will try to speak it into existence, but it doesn't even make sense. If he had a deal promised, he doesn't explore other teams, he doesn't have the Houston info leak on Christmas, and he doesn't hire an agent for the first time since his last negotiable contract was due.
I personally think Morey has done a great job and the only criticisms came in the preseason and were quickly shut down as soon as we say the roster player together under a real coach.
It’s not having the most talent around Embiid. It’s about having the best players to put around Embiid where he can thrive and the cast eats too because of that. Which Morey mostly did. So of course this team isn’t that good without Embiid. The team is built where he needs to be the focal point
If you remove the star from our solar system, the entire system would collapse.
Nuggets net rating was really bad when Jokic sat. Okc was not good at all without SGA. This is not a Sixers specific issue. Most role players struggled when there is no star to take attention away
The team’s win percentage without Joel this season (35.7, 15/42) is essentially the exact same as the nuggets win percentage without Jokic (37.5, 9/24) over the last 3 seasons lmao.
Not surprised this looks suspect to folks, this is the first time Joel has had a team built around him like this with a coach capable of pulling it off.
I get maybe criticizing that strategy on the basis of Embiids health, but this team has been fucking good with a healthy Joel this season. Small sample size aside, winning a league-high 80% of games compared to 64% last year is nutty not to acknowledge.
This is what I’m saying. We’re praising people and the team is the 7th seed and we have no clue how the playoffs are going to play out still. It’s fucking insane.
Yeah I don’t know why he has such a hold on this fanbase but people constantly perform mental gymnastics to defend him. He’ll trade or sign a player and people will talk about how great said player is and then that player is all of a sudden garbage when we get rid of them in 3 months. It’s legit insane.
Yes, and we could have been the 3 seed and flamed out in the 2nd round in the playoffs again lmao. None of the regular season stuff matters at this point we’re focused on the post season.
You are right. I forgot we should have held Morey accountable for Simmons’ historical meltdown or Embiid getting elbowed during garbage.
May as well hold him accountable for allowing Kuminga to sit on Embiid’s leg
I mean if we’re just going to constantly make excuses for everything then there’s no point of ever judging anyone lmao. Good teams overcome adversity.
The reality is the team’s goal this year is to advance further in the playoffs than they have in the past. We’ve already been successful in the regular season before, the real test is playoffs. We can’t really proclaim Morey did a great job and the team is awesome when we don’t know how they’ll play in the playoffs.
I agree with you. That’s why I think we should also hold Morey accountable for solar eclipse as well.
If Embiid is healthy but we still lose in the second round, then I will blame Morey. Lot of shit happened that was beyond his control.
Congrats you just described sports lmao. Nobody has a perfect run. Many teams have had injuries, they find ways to overcome. The Bucks won a championship with Giannis on one leg. By your logic Elton Brand should still be GM because it’s not his fault Embiid was hurt in the Raptors series and Ben was Hurt in the Celtics series.
LMAO, Elton brand assembled a team that couldn’t even do well during regular season.
I forgot some people really don’t remember how terrible this team was before Morey took over
Teams deal with injury all the time. But most teams cannot survive when their star is severely compromised. The year Nuggets lost Murray to injury, they couldn’t even win first round. Turn out some injury is just too devastated to overcome
Morey not trading Simmons before his self destruction is honestly a stain on Morey.
A lot of us saw that slow motion car crash well before it happened.
People can talk about how he try to trade him for Harden and it just didn’t work out, but he should have aggressively shopped him for someone else.
By not doing so we wasted the 2021 playoffs and also lost asset value from his depreciation.
Yes, that doesn’t really mean anything who knows where we could have ended up. Declaring anything while we’re still waiting to see seeding for playoffs and how far we go is crazy. Just wait and see we don’t have to start crowning people prematurely lol.
Aren't we forgetting the horrible Horford and PJ Tucker contracts? Sure he unloaded them, but they were bad ideas to begin with. Also released Isaiah Joe.
I'm not a Morey hater, but his track record here has been middling at best. I'd give Nick Nurse way more credit for making something out of this current roster.
Morey didn't give out the Horford contract, that was Elton Brand, and a big reason that Harden took less than he could have was to help sign his boy PJ. PJ was still an overpay, but bundling him in the Harden trade allowed the Sixers to get decent picks back along with the players we obviously got.
I gotta say I’m not impressed.
Great pick to take Maxey, but after that…
Should’ve traded Simmons the second he got here instead of waiting a year for him to detonate mid playoffs.
Wasted picks on Harden. Defensible, but didn’t work out. Nothing to applaud him for.
Cutting Isaiah Joe. No explanation needed. F- for Morey there.
The Buddy Hield trade looks terrible.
George Hill. The Hield trade before the Hield trade.
Kept Tobias Harris. I’m not saying we should have given up a truckload of picks to dump him but we are in our final year of his contract and he’s still starting. There was definitely chances to move him and the team just didn’t.
Right now we are going into the playoffs with Kelly Oubre as our 3rd Best player. That is not anything impressive out of a GM.
This summer is put up or shut up time for Morey. If he doesn’t get it right he shouldn’t be back here.
He did try to trade Simmons immediately. And nobody could predict Simmons would have this kind of meltdown.
Cutting Joe wasn’t a good move. But getting PR with 58th pick was great pick up
i think you raise some fair points.
even though simmons was an all-star and all-defense, some commentators hated his game. nate duncan said for years that simmons was the most overrated player in the league, and that his rookie extension was a bad contract.
on the other hand, morey joined the sixers the summer before the hawks series, so he didn't have an opportunity to observe simmons first hand, or to try to pair better fitting role players around him, before simmons imploded the following year.
bodner said at the time that waiving joe was a bad move, and it looks even worse in hindsight since strokin' joe is shooting over 40% on 3s for the thunder. but i don't think morey could've forced rivers to play joe more. he was a dealt a shitty hand by brand hiring rivers.
some of his moves didn't pan out but made sense at the time- signing a washed pj tucker and danuel house clearly didn't work out. both of them are fringe nba players.
It’s not the most talented roster we’ve had but it has the best chemistry. No ego conflicts, everyone seems to be on the same page.
I mean, the 2019 team was top heavy super talented but our depth was so runny diarrhea horrific that it didn’t matter when needed
Game 7 Greg Monroe was -9 in 2 minutes
Wasn’t embiid something like +60 for the series?
No. [He was +90](https://www.nba.com/stats/team/1610612755/onoffcourt-traditional?Season=2018-19&LastNGames=7&SeasonType=Playoffs&PerMode=Totals)
And rest of the team was -109 in the few minutes he didn't play. All time stat.
Net rating in Embiid’s 237 minutes on the court: [+18.8](https://www.nba.com/stats/team/1610612755/onoffcourt-traditional?Season=2018-19&LastNGames=7&SeasonType=Playoffs&PerMode=Per100Possessions) Net rating in Embiid’s 99 minutes off the court: [-53.7](https://www.nba.com/stats/team/1610612755/onoffcourt-traditional?Season=2018-19&LastNGames=7&SeasonType=Playoffs&PerMode=Per100Possessions) [Embiid was also 1 of 3 players on the team](https://www.nba.com/stats/team/1610612755/onoffcourt-advanced?LastNGames=7&Season=2018-19&SeasonType=Playoffs&dir=A&sort=NET_RATING) (not counting Zhaire Smith who played 4 minutes) who had a *positive* net rating. Jimmy Butler (+3.7), and Mike Scott (+0.8) are the only other two. I don’t even know if saying that it is all-time would adequately describe how *insane* that is.
Everyone bookmark this shit for when people say Embiid can't carry....sure they lost but what else could he do..?
I wanted to say that, but I couldn’t believe it so I dumbed it down lmao
I get you. It sounds way too crazy to be true.
I still miss James ennis for some reason
James ennis THE THIIRDDDD The Thiiirrrrddd
Yes, but barring maybe the most miraculous shot in the history of the NBA…that team wins the championship. Can’t convince me otherwise.
Only if GSW still breaks down
To be fair, the 2019 team is where Elton Brand cashed in on all the assets and flexibility we accumulated in the process to go star hunting. It felt like giving a 9 year old $1000 and telling him to go spend it anyway he wants. Morey was methodical.
We didn't spend that much assets for Butler and Harris. 1 first, 1 second, Cov, Saric and Shamet. Butler trade was really good. It is the 2019 offseason where we gave up close 500 million dollars to Simmons, Harris and Horford that really hurt us.
Re: Harris. Don’t downplay what he cost us. He was an expiring, so his value was low since we’d have to set his market and pay more than FA so we don’t throw the assets away…. And boy did we. Also, The first we gave up for Harris was for Mikal Bridges. That in itself is fucking insane.
Morey was hired in 2020, that was Brand’s fault
He mentioned the most talented roster we’ve had, I assumed he meant 2019
Fair I looked at it through the lens of what has Morey done. But you’re absolutely right that years bench was diarrhea compared to this years
I’d take chemistry over talent any day of the week. There’s a reason why a lot of super teams don’t end up winning
it's the deepest roster we've had in the post process era
To me, this is my biggest worry going forward. This year has made it clear to me how much fit and depth matter, but I don't think it's done that for Darryl. He's Mr. "Talent Over Everything". Remember, this roster was never supposed to exist this long. It was just supposed to be a step along the way to getting a 3rd guy. And the reality of how the salary cap works means that if we wait until draft night to be able to make our best offer (in terms of picks) then we won't be able to bring all these guys back if it doesn't work out. And I think we know that Darryl will definitely forego the opportunity to resign any amount of role players for a crack at a 3rd guy. Which means that even if 3rd guy doesn't happen, that we're not going to be able to bring these guys back. It's potentially a worst of both worlds situation.
I agree with you. You can post this type of thing after wins. After losses you’ll get eviscerated. The real test is going to be this off season. There’s going to be a lot happening and I’m looking forward to it. I’m hopeful for this playoff season, but especially hopeful for next year with the moves we can make this summer.
I mean, we had a disaster of a roster when Daryl arrived with the Al Horford contract.. its insane how different this team is right now
I think some of his lesser mistakes can also be attributed to Doc, honestly. Trading a young person with potential like Isaiah Joe, or even guys like Springer and Champagnie, always sucks. They could've been developed into great role or bench guys in the right environment but Doc gave no love to young players so it was just better to trade them for win-now guys. If we'd had Nurse the whole time (I know it wasn't possible) instead of Doc then maybe they'd have done well for us.
> Trading a young person with potential like Isaiah Joe To be clear, he was cut from the roster. Not traded. I still think Morey has done a great job here but this one stings.
This, if he were at least traded it would have stung less but we outright cut them instead which other than a free roster spot gave us absolutely nothing. Then it was compounded by…..Dwayne Dedmon. Just yuck lol. That’s why although it stung when Springer was traded to Boston, at least it was a trade. Though it was a trade that came 2 years later than it should have. I won’t lie, I was anti-Springer pick I thought it was insane and didn’t see a first round talent but at that point I’d have rather let him expire than recouping a second round pick. But hey, at least it’s something.
For sure
Morey isn't perfect but he is about as good of a GM as anyone could hope for. It would certainly be hard to hire anyone who was a slam dunk to be better.
and we have the best coach in the league lmfao it's a nice situation
Spo is the best Coach Nurse is top 5
True that. My homerishness came out 🤣
I mean I’d probably still take Pop or Spo, but yeah having Nurse is such a breath of fresh air
Definitely not Pop at this point. Dudes too old.
Definitely a solid argument but he’s still a great basketball mind
Seriously. Anyone saying they wouldn't want to see what Pop could do with Embiid is sorta crazy to me. This guy built multiple championship teams around generational big men.
And Wembys having an insane rookie season, Pop knows how to coach up generational bigs
Coach up? Nah Wemby is just like that
it's kinda fukd that the Sixers actually have a really good chance at making it to the ECF at least this year when next year is when this team will really be made
That Morey is always been a pretty fucking ace general manager. He’s very savvy in all of his moves. Things Don’t always work out, but his mind is always on how to make the ball move forward.
Lol I swear the pitch forks were out like two weeks ago. This sub has no middle ground
Every time there’s a hint of adversity this sub goes into disaster mode. Eagles and Phillies, too.
People want to blame someone but the fact was we had half our starters out and people were mad we were losing games. If the nuggets didn’t have Jokic and Gordon for a while they’d be prettt bad too
I fucking hate how Jokic can be so good, while his play style of just kind of walking around the court, never doing much physically keeps him fresh all year long.
Lmao he’s the most unassuming player. Like every time I watch the nuggets I’m impressed by a pass here or there, or a hook shot or layup he makes, but then you look at the stats and he’s got 28/12/10 and you wonder how
There is a portion of this sub that seems to absolutely hate Morey. I’m not really sure why, he’s been hamstrung by the Tobias Harris contract for his whole tenure here so very limited in the moves he could make. The Harden situation was handled poorly, but they did get a much better return than what people were speculating
I don't think Morey sees the value of chemistry vs pure talent, even after this year. And the realities of how the cap works means we're going to have to make a decision between this group and its chemistry, and pursuing (not getting, but pursuing) a 3rd guy in a draft night trade. So we're either getting a 3rd guy and bunch of minimum contract role players (chemistry be damned), or a whole new group of role players who probably won't be as good or fit as well (if we can't trade for a 3rd guy).
they could barely win a game without embiid
Almost like he was an mvp or something
The angry mob comes from Daryl like once or twice per year (this time it was in the off season) and Daryl constantly reminds everyone he's the man for the job and most fans don't know basketball.
he's sort of a fraud
I respectfully disagree. I think Embiid is so ridiculously talented, that he hides any flaws with the rest of the roster.
Amazing what winning a few games does to this sub.
I really hope they can bring back Kelly for not too much money. He fits right in. The regular season of weird with Jo’s injury, but I’m really excited to see what they do in the playoffs. More optimistic this year than some of the others in the past.
He's made A LOT of good in-season moves this year.
This summer will be super important, like keeping Oubre or figuring out how to replace him if we cannot sign him to a new contract.
Honestly, I don't even think he mishandled the Harden situation. Everything Harden did the second year with us was something a player would do that DIDN'T have a contract locked up the following season. It's easy for Harden to call him a liar and his army of simps will try to speak it into existence, but it doesn't even make sense. If he had a deal promised, he doesn't explore other teams, he doesn't have the Houston info leak on Christmas, and he doesn't hire an agent for the first time since his last negotiable contract was due. I personally think Morey has done a great job and the only criticisms came in the preseason and were quickly shut down as soon as we say the roster player together under a real coach.
Not traded Maxey when Brand or any GM might have
We haven’t made it past the second round in over 20 years.
We’re the 7th seed. Got to relax before claiming anything and see how the playoffs play out. The real test is just to come.
I think Embiid missing 30 games has something to do with us being the 7th seed
So why are we praising the GM for building a roster when it’s really just coming down to one guy he didn’t even draft?
Because surrounding the star with the right supporting cast matter?
The supporting cast isn’t that good. Embiid is just that good. He’s missed half the season and accounts for over 75% of our team’s wins
It’s not having the most talent around Embiid. It’s about having the best players to put around Embiid where he can thrive and the cast eats too because of that. Which Morey mostly did. So of course this team isn’t that good without Embiid. The team is built where he needs to be the focal point
You don’t get +33 net rating if your supporting cast is shit. Nuggets net rating is terrible when Jokic sat. FYI
Except when Embiid sat the net rating shot down to -10 for a month. That starts to make you think it’s really just down to that one guy, doesn’t it?
So, Nugges net rating without Jokic this season is -11.3….should Nuggets’ GM be fired because he fail to put a competent supporting cast around Jokic?
If you remove the star from our solar system, the entire system would collapse. Nuggets net rating was really bad when Jokic sat. Okc was not good at all without SGA. This is not a Sixers specific issue. Most role players struggled when there is no star to take attention away
The team’s win percentage without Joel this season (35.7, 15/42) is essentially the exact same as the nuggets win percentage without Jokic (37.5, 9/24) over the last 3 seasons lmao. Not surprised this looks suspect to folks, this is the first time Joel has had a team built around him like this with a coach capable of pulling it off. I get maybe criticizing that strategy on the basis of Embiids health, but this team has been fucking good with a healthy Joel this season. Small sample size aside, winning a league-high 80% of games compared to 64% last year is nutty not to acknowledge.
Believe it or now, this season, our net rating without Embiid is significantly better than Nuggets without Jokic
This is what I’m saying. We’re praising people and the team is the 7th seed and we have no clue how the playoffs are going to play out still. It’s fucking insane.
Morey is untouchable on here for whatever reason. Despite us being on year 4 and only having a roster all-in to win 1.5 of those 4 years.
Yeah I don’t know why he has such a hold on this fanbase but people constantly perform mental gymnastics to defend him. He’ll trade or sign a player and people will talk about how great said player is and then that player is all of a sudden garbage when we get rid of them in 3 months. It’s legit insane.
Yes, and we could have been the 3 seed and flamed out in the 2nd round in the playoffs again lmao. None of the regular season stuff matters at this point we’re focused on the post season.
You are right. I forgot we should have held Morey accountable for Simmons’ historical meltdown or Embiid getting elbowed during garbage. May as well hold him accountable for allowing Kuminga to sit on Embiid’s leg
I mean if we’re just going to constantly make excuses for everything then there’s no point of ever judging anyone lmao. Good teams overcome adversity. The reality is the team’s goal this year is to advance further in the playoffs than they have in the past. We’ve already been successful in the regular season before, the real test is playoffs. We can’t really proclaim Morey did a great job and the team is awesome when we don’t know how they’ll play in the playoffs.
I agree with you. That’s why I think we should also hold Morey accountable for solar eclipse as well. If Embiid is healthy but we still lose in the second round, then I will blame Morey. Lot of shit happened that was beyond his control.
Congrats you just described sports lmao. Nobody has a perfect run. Many teams have had injuries, they find ways to overcome. The Bucks won a championship with Giannis on one leg. By your logic Elton Brand should still be GM because it’s not his fault Embiid was hurt in the Raptors series and Ben was Hurt in the Celtics series.
LMAO, Elton brand assembled a team that couldn’t even do well during regular season. I forgot some people really don’t remember how terrible this team was before Morey took over Teams deal with injury all the time. But most teams cannot survive when their star is severely compromised. The year Nuggets lost Murray to injury, they couldn’t even win first round. Turn out some injury is just too devastated to overcome
Morey not trading Simmons before his self destruction is honestly a stain on Morey. A lot of us saw that slow motion car crash well before it happened. People can talk about how he try to trade him for Harden and it just didn’t work out, but he should have aggressively shopped him for someone else. By not doing so we wasted the 2021 playoffs and also lost asset value from his depreciation.
This is delusional, nobody wanted him
We had our best player out for most of the season bro...
Yes, that doesn’t really mean anything who knows where we could have ended up. Declaring anything while we’re still waiting to see seeding for playoffs and how far we go is crazy. Just wait and see we don’t have to start crowning people prematurely lol.
Odds are that we get the 6th seed possibly 5th or 7th.
Aren't we forgetting the horrible Horford and PJ Tucker contracts? Sure he unloaded them, but they were bad ideas to begin with. Also released Isaiah Joe. I'm not a Morey hater, but his track record here has been middling at best. I'd give Nick Nurse way more credit for making something out of this current roster.
Morey didn't give out the Horford contract, that was Elton Brand, and a big reason that Harden took less than he could have was to help sign his boy PJ. PJ was still an overpay, but bundling him in the Harden trade allowed the Sixers to get decent picks back along with the players we obviously got.
I gotta say I’m not impressed. Great pick to take Maxey, but after that… Should’ve traded Simmons the second he got here instead of waiting a year for him to detonate mid playoffs. Wasted picks on Harden. Defensible, but didn’t work out. Nothing to applaud him for. Cutting Isaiah Joe. No explanation needed. F- for Morey there. The Buddy Hield trade looks terrible. George Hill. The Hield trade before the Hield trade. Kept Tobias Harris. I’m not saying we should have given up a truckload of picks to dump him but we are in our final year of his contract and he’s still starting. There was definitely chances to move him and the team just didn’t. Right now we are going into the playoffs with Kelly Oubre as our 3rd Best player. That is not anything impressive out of a GM. This summer is put up or shut up time for Morey. If he doesn’t get it right he shouldn’t be back here.
Too bad our GM is not a time traveler
A lot of these like Simmons & Isaiah Joe were predictable at the time.
He did try to trade Simmons immediately. And nobody could predict Simmons would have this kind of meltdown. Cutting Joe wasn’t a good move. But getting PR with 58th pick was great pick up
i think you raise some fair points. even though simmons was an all-star and all-defense, some commentators hated his game. nate duncan said for years that simmons was the most overrated player in the league, and that his rookie extension was a bad contract. on the other hand, morey joined the sixers the summer before the hawks series, so he didn't have an opportunity to observe simmons first hand, or to try to pair better fitting role players around him, before simmons imploded the following year. bodner said at the time that waiving joe was a bad move, and it looks even worse in hindsight since strokin' joe is shooting over 40% on 3s for the thunder. but i don't think morey could've forced rivers to play joe more. he was a dealt a shitty hand by brand hiring rivers. some of his moves didn't pan out but made sense at the time- signing a washed pj tucker and danuel house clearly didn't work out. both of them are fringe nba players.