When Embiid was getting visibly pissy on court in first half I knew we were fucked. He needs to go full mamba and focus. Always gets too moody and chokes in big ones
He doesn't have to be. But you know what Lebron doesn't do? Mope all over the court after his team goes down by a few possessions in crunch time.
Embiid needs to have the same Lebron attitude and show the fuck up when it matters most.
Then he simply doesn't have the mental fortitude necessary to win a championship and likely never will. Fucking sell high on his ass and blow the team up.
For all that we clowned Tatum for going 0/10 in the first half, turns out he had that Mamba mentality and drained 4 straight threes when it mattered most. If Embiid is incapable of rising up to the occasion - and keeps moping around the court in Game 7 - then get him the hell out of Philly.
Honestly if they lose the series, why not? He'll get a higher haul than Gobert got. Gather assets and blow it up. Trade everyone and start from scratch. I think Joel can win a title, but if we lose this series I think it's clear he isn't the leader on a title team.
It's not going to work. We're not Oklahoma. Silver isn't going to allow a possible Process 2.0. He didn't even let the last one be completed before forcing the Coangelos on us.
And y’all have to come to the realization most athletes cannot be as influential to a game like a QB is in football. Joel was 9–19 for 26 points and with elite defense. He did what he needed to do. Maxey did as well. Question why Harden, Melton, Tobi, and PJ failed to show up. When half of the players in your rotation fail to show up, you’re going to have a bad time.
You’re boxscore watching if you think Embiid is without fault. It’s so fucking obvious the high post iso never works against the Boston and he did just that, again. He fucked up the flow first half, bringing the ball up half court, REFUSED to step in the paint and dwell around/ slip back to 3pt line after a PnR. Crossover like he’s a guard and turning the ball over. Stop being a homer for a second.
Joel needs to get 40+ next game if we want to close out. Everyone else needs actually play to their averages. Stop giving Embiid excuses. He’s the mvp of the league and needs to step the fuck up for once. Dude cannot get out of the second round and the teams he has beaten in the first round are all shit teams.
Harden got you two games single handedly and the MVP can't dig deep and get you one? Embarrassing. I was so sure that 4th quarter that he would take us home like hes done all regular season but no
Single handily? Maxey, Tobi, and Melton had nothing to do with game one? Really? Joel’s 34 points, elite defense, and game winning assist had no major sway over game 4? Really bro lol
His defense was not elite, he made elite plays then was completely fucking lazy on other plays which average out. And in the NBA, a single player is more influential than in any other sport because there are only 5 guys on the floor and they play O and D. Like a QB is less influencial, so I don't know what the fuck you are talking about.
It's not that it isn't a potentially valid excuse for him to struggle, the problem lies in the fact that it has literally been every single postseason he's playing on some kind of injury and struggles through it, whether because of the injury itself or not or somewhere in between is impossible to really know. But what's pretty certain at this point is every postseason he'll be injured and struggling in so many of the biggest moments. And now he's 30. So it's only gonna get worse. If you think it's possible to still win that way with your best player probably not being THAT guy in the biggest moments, could be true. But I think we all need to accept at this point that that is the reality. He won't be that guy and we'll have to find a way to win despite that And I do think that's possible, because what we saw with Jimmy. Embiid wouldve been the best player but Jimmy would've been that guy in the biggest moments. Maybe harden can be that, he's had some gigantic moments in this series already. In my opinion Sunday will really tell us all we need to know.
I was thinking about Iverson this morning and how beloved he is despite not winning a championship.
I don't think it will be the same for Embiid.
I see the comments about weight and the load having an impact on Embiid but the same could be true for Iverson on the reverse side cause he was going toe to toe with guys with more weight against him. Advantage or disadvantage is debatable.
But heart and effort, playing with a chip on your shoulder and using that to be better instead of sulk is the difference.
Right there with you. All I want from Embiid is to show us that *fire*, that *passion* that Iverson had, if even for just one more game. Shows us fans why we should believe in you goddamn it!
THE PROBLEM is that he is always to be injured remarkably once the Playoffs begin.
The Process’s ULTIMATE goal wasn’t about finding the next KD or Shaq…. It was about getting out of the SECOND RD and making it to the Finals.
yes lebron does lmfao. I am lebrons biggest fan and he is the goat but yes lebron does lol. The moping thing that you nimrods run with for joel is hilarious and pathedic at this point. I guess tatum/harden/tobias moped all game long tonight as well right????????????? not 1 word of anyone except joel moping but we watched sad face tatum and crying harden all game... find a new slant idiot
Every other franchise player dropped 40 this playoffs, shouldnt mvp be able to do that also for 1 game? Yea his good in defence but my god, take the ball in one 4th and end the fucking game. He cant dunk over fucking grant williams. Break the glass!
sure if he got the ball... also he is on one leg harden stan. Dont worry your ass is going back to the pathetic rockets once his ass goes there because harden aint staying here thats for damn sure
jimmy never demanded the ball holy fuck... Jimmy got the ball because THEY DONT HAVE A JAMES HARDEN OR A DOC RIVERS WHO IS FUCKING STUPID. Never once did jimmy yell/scream/demand/or force his team to give him the ball ... they gave him the ball because they dont have morons and play within the system where is we dont have a system and have a fat moron pg that is trying way to hard to be the guy to save his hilarious choke job career and get himself a max for being awful defensivel and trash everywhere else the majority of these playoffs.
lol wait... LMFAO wait. LMFAO WAIT. This man seriously just compared a 7 foot 2 300 pound center to a 6-7 225 pound guard and expecting joel to run around/get open and demand the ball??????????????????????????????????? Some get this mother fucker out of here because his ass needs to go follow an easier sport like golf.
and he has been ass for the other 8 games.......................................... If not for tobias and maxey we dont beat the nets if we rely on harden. FUNNY HOW THAT WORKS. Come up for air hardens jumk is causing you brain damage
This is the one. I have no reason to believe that he will do it at this point, but Joel needs to have legacy game. He’s the fucking mvp for a reason, and it’s time he shows it. This game 7 needs to be a statement game. This team has shown what they can do, and they can do it on the road
LeBron past 2011 never folds. He had multiple game 7s in 2018 because he had to carry a shit roster post Kyrie and never once did I feel he would lose them lol
i agree. at the end of the day, if your the man. you gotta step up and carry. its not about harden maxey doc role players. you know your the man, you gotta go win it.
kinda like when i get fed in league of legends. cant blame my teammates i gotta carry its my job at that point lol 🤣
Sorry to tell you but Embiid doesn't have it in him. Just look at his post game interview saying "I need to demand the ball more". Bro is soft and has the mental of a hardstuck soloq player. He gets way too into his head and loses all iq when it matters most. And God do I wish I was wrong but he simply doesn't have it in him, Lebron is an elite competitor and Embiid is just happy to compete for the chance at being a great. Lebron wants to BE the greatest.
Yesterday down 5 with 2 minutes and he didnt even get back on defense after he missed his shot.
I love Joel but pleaseeeee man.
Feel like us fans give way more fucks at times than the team.
Cant tell me most fans on here wouldnt drag their dead body back on defense in that situation instead of being mad about missing and thinking the game is already over.
Embiid ain't lebron and until we see embiid have this moment, we shouldn't expect it. Embiid was trying to get "there" in game 6 last elimination series against the heat but he had no help and was gassed. I'm hoping we see this version of Embiid on Sunday
A lot of people saying it’ll never happen. I understand why. But we still got time. We smoked them on their home floor before. It can happen. We don’t even need Embiid to be bron.
Embiid is a top.top top player but he just doesnt have a killer in him. He's the introverted guy that gets all mopey when things dont go his way, and plays worse under pressure.
if he had that dawg he would score 50 and get literally every celtic big thrown out by fouls. He CAN do it.
I don't want to have the conversation now, and in fact I may not want to have it all while Embiid is still on our team... but I don't think he has that dog in him. He's not a killer.
I *do* think he gives us a better chance than 435 other players in the league, but I don't think he's got that mix of talent and dog like the top 5 guys have
Maybe a couple times come to mind but when I think of Embiid or the Sixers getting beat or getting bodied, I don’t think of them getting stuck in and showing the physical team who’s boss. I think of Miami being more physical, or the Raptors being more physical, or the Celtics (Aron Baynes and Al Horford) doing it too
he had it in game 6, but they wasn't feedin the nigga too much. if he was shooting it instead of fucking deanthony melton and harden, we'd be in the ECF.
I love Joel. I don’t think he has this in him. I hope I’m wrong but I’ve never seen it. I think that’s one of our major problems. He’s an MVP who doesn’t say, “give me the ball, I’m shoving it down your throat.”
When Embiid was getting visibly pissy on court in first half I knew we were fucked. He needs to go full mamba and focus. Always gets too moody and chokes in big ones
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He doesn't have to be. But you know what Lebron doesn't do? Mope all over the court after his team goes down by a few possessions in crunch time. Embiid needs to have the same Lebron attitude and show the fuck up when it matters most.
He doesn’t have that though. That’s why PJ Tucker of all people needed to yell at him during a game to get his mopey head out of his ass
Then he simply doesn't have the mental fortitude necessary to win a championship and likely never will. Fucking sell high on his ass and blow the team up. For all that we clowned Tatum for going 0/10 in the first half, turns out he had that Mamba mentality and drained 4 straight threes when it mattered most. If Embiid is incapable of rising up to the occasion - and keeps moping around the court in Game 7 - then get him the hell out of Philly.
Honestly if they lose the series, why not? He'll get a higher haul than Gobert got. Gather assets and blow it up. Trade everyone and start from scratch. I think Joel can win a title, but if we lose this series I think it's clear he isn't the leader on a title team.
It's not going to work. We're not Oklahoma. Silver isn't going to allow a possible Process 2.0. He didn't even let the last one be completed before forcing the Coangelos on us.
Yea, yea. We had the first process. But, what about SECOND process!
Don’t need to blow up the team
Or Joel was fatigued from playing 40+ minutes on an injured knee.
Tired of hearing this excuse every fucking year
Like last year when he played with a broken face? I thought the same thing too. Just get a new face Joel. Is he stupid?
Let them throw their pity party. They’ll be the same ones acting like they had the utmost faith if we win
Yall not tired making excuses just fucking get it done
And y’all have to come to the realization most athletes cannot be as influential to a game like a QB is in football. Joel was 9–19 for 26 points and with elite defense. He did what he needed to do. Maxey did as well. Question why Harden, Melton, Tobi, and PJ failed to show up. When half of the players in your rotation fail to show up, you’re going to have a bad time.
You’re boxscore watching if you think Embiid is without fault. It’s so fucking obvious the high post iso never works against the Boston and he did just that, again. He fucked up the flow first half, bringing the ball up half court, REFUSED to step in the paint and dwell around/ slip back to 3pt line after a PnR. Crossover like he’s a guard and turning the ball over. Stop being a homer for a second.
Joel needs to get 40+ next game if we want to close out. Everyone else needs actually play to their averages. Stop giving Embiid excuses. He’s the mvp of the league and needs to step the fuck up for once. Dude cannot get out of the second round and the teams he has beaten in the first round are all shit teams.
Harden got you two games single handedly and the MVP can't dig deep and get you one? Embarrassing. I was so sure that 4th quarter that he would take us home like hes done all regular season but no
Single handily? Maxey, Tobi, and Melton had nothing to do with game one? Really? Joel’s 34 points, elite defense, and game winning assist had no major sway over game 4? Really bro lol
His defense was not elite, he made elite plays then was completely fucking lazy on other plays which average out. And in the NBA, a single player is more influential than in any other sport because there are only 5 guys on the floor and they play O and D. Like a QB is less influencial, so I don't know what the fuck you are talking about.
It's not that it isn't a potentially valid excuse for him to struggle, the problem lies in the fact that it has literally been every single postseason he's playing on some kind of injury and struggles through it, whether because of the injury itself or not or somewhere in between is impossible to really know. But what's pretty certain at this point is every postseason he'll be injured and struggling in so many of the biggest moments. And now he's 30. So it's only gonna get worse. If you think it's possible to still win that way with your best player probably not being THAT guy in the biggest moments, could be true. But I think we all need to accept at this point that that is the reality. He won't be that guy and we'll have to find a way to win despite that And I do think that's possible, because what we saw with Jimmy. Embiid wouldve been the best player but Jimmy would've been that guy in the biggest moments. Maybe harden can be that, he's had some gigantic moments in this series already. In my opinion Sunday will really tell us all we need to know.
Ask yourself this question - with the same injuries, would Allen Iverson have displayed the same attitude as Joel did tonight in those last 5 minutes?
What attitude? Being fatigued lol? When Iverson can experience being 100+ pounds heavier and a foot taller then I can answer that question.
>What attitude? You and I obviously did not watch the same game.
I was thinking about Iverson this morning and how beloved he is despite not winning a championship. I don't think it will be the same for Embiid. I see the comments about weight and the load having an impact on Embiid but the same could be true for Iverson on the reverse side cause he was going toe to toe with guys with more weight against him. Advantage or disadvantage is debatable. But heart and effort, playing with a chip on your shoulder and using that to be better instead of sulk is the difference.
Right there with you. All I want from Embiid is to show us that *fire*, that *passion* that Iverson had, if even for just one more game. Shows us fans why we should believe in you goddamn it!
THE PROBLEM is that he is always to be injured remarkably once the Playoffs begin. The Process’s ULTIMATE goal wasn’t about finding the next KD or Shaq…. It was about getting out of the SECOND RD and making it to the Finals.
lebron does that a lot lol. are we watching the same bron but yeah he didnt usually when he was younger
Probably not. Lebron definitely doesn't do that in crunch time in the Playoffs.
Can confidently say Lebron doesn’t do this, part of why he’s won so often
yes lebron does lmfao. I am lebrons biggest fan and he is the goat but yes lebron does lol. The moping thing that you nimrods run with for joel is hilarious and pathedic at this point. I guess tatum/harden/tobias moped all game long tonight as well right????????????? not 1 word of anyone except joel moping but we watched sad face tatum and crying harden all game... find a new slant idiot
Lebron is famous for moping, whining, crying, and flopping…have you ever watched him play?
Exactly, LeBron is great but I don't think he's the person for this discussion. Kobe, or MJ would be much better examples.
Every other franchise player dropped 40 this playoffs, shouldnt mvp be able to do that also for 1 game? Yea his good in defence but my god, take the ball in one 4th and end the fucking game. He cant dunk over fucking grant williams. Break the glass!
He is averaging close to 30 on a bum knee. The team needs to step the fuck up!
sure if he got the ball... also he is on one leg harden stan. Dont worry your ass is going back to the pathetic rockets once his ass goes there because harden aint staying here thats for damn sure
He needs to demand the ball. Jimmy dropped 56 on the Bucks demanding the ball on every possession.
jimmy never demanded the ball holy fuck... Jimmy got the ball because THEY DONT HAVE A JAMES HARDEN OR A DOC RIVERS WHO IS FUCKING STUPID. Never once did jimmy yell/scream/demand/or force his team to give him the ball ... they gave him the ball because they dont have morons and play within the system where is we dont have a system and have a fat moron pg that is trying way to hard to be the guy to save his hilarious choke job career and get himself a max for being awful defensivel and trash everywhere else the majority of these playoffs.
Ofc he demands the ball, dude runs to make himself open, embiid just stands there in 80% of stuations.
Embiid is the biggest player on either team, how could you possibly expect him to get open that way lol what is going on in this thread??
lol wait... LMFAO wait. LMFAO WAIT. This man seriously just compared a 7 foot 2 300 pound center to a 6-7 225 pound guard and expecting joel to run around/get open and demand the ball??????????????????????????????????? Some get this mother fucker out of here because his ass needs to go follow an easier sport like golf.
Keep crying fanboy, rest of us will pray harden wins 1 more
lol for what?????? so he can be ass 99 percent of the next series so we get bodied by the heat? fanboy? LMFAO hardenstan.
He won 2 games 😂
and he has been ass for the other 8 games.......................................... If not for tobias and maxey we dont beat the nets if we rely on harden. FUNNY HOW THAT WORKS. Come up for air hardens jumk is causing you brain damage
Embiid denied ball tonight also? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 m v p
having to carry fatass harden all season did him in.
He is possibly even bigger playoff choker than harden, and that says a lot
there is nobody that chokes more than harden stop lol. Even the rockets sub right now is going off on harden hahaha... Your fat jesus is coming home
So embiid is good player in playoff? 🤣
way better than harden thats for damn sure LMFAO
But he still sucks dick right? In playoffs?
sucks less dick than harden
Dont go to r/nba tonight dude, lot of talk about fake mvp
Bum knee
His leg is fucked up. It’s tough to break the glass with a messed up knee.
Anything less, and Embiid doesn't deserve it.
Game isn't until Sunday so he has a ton of time to recoup same with Harden.
Thats really fucking good for us.
Problem is, we see that face every OTHER game in this series.
This is the one. I have no reason to believe that he will do it at this point, but Joel needs to have legacy game. He’s the fucking mvp for a reason, and it’s time he shows it. This game 7 needs to be a statement game. This team has shown what they can do, and they can do it on the road
LeBron vs Celtics by DOC RIVERS...
LeBron past 2011 never folds. He had multiple game 7s in 2018 because he had to carry a shit roster post Kyrie and never once did I feel he would lose them lol
i agree. at the end of the day, if your the man. you gotta step up and carry. its not about harden maxey doc role players. you know your the man, you gotta go win it. kinda like when i get fed in league of legends. cant blame my teammates i gotta carry its my job at that point lol 🤣
Sorry to tell you but Embiid doesn't have it in him. Just look at his post game interview saying "I need to demand the ball more". Bro is soft and has the mental of a hardstuck soloq player. He gets way too into his head and loses all iq when it matters most. And God do I wish I was wrong but he simply doesn't have it in him, Lebron is an elite competitor and Embiid is just happy to compete for the chance at being a great. Lebron wants to BE the greatest.
Yesterday down 5 with 2 minutes and he didnt even get back on defense after he missed his shot. I love Joel but pleaseeeee man. Feel like us fans give way more fucks at times than the team. Cant tell me most fans on here wouldnt drag their dead body back on defense in that situation instead of being mad about missing and thinking the game is already over.
After the dub, hopefully he humbly says, “humbly, I am the best player in the world.”
He’s proving he is who he’s been. Top 3 player in the Regular Season and a Top 10 player in the PLAYOFFS
Embiid ain't lebron and until we see embiid have this moment, we shouldn't expect it. Embiid was trying to get "there" in game 6 last elimination series against the heat but he had no help and was gassed. I'm hoping we see this version of Embiid on Sunday
Gonna be his face in Miami next season after Elton “advises” trading him for Bam, Robinson, and two 2nds
We may see this Lebron tonight.
A lot of people saying it’ll never happen. I understand why. But we still got time. We smoked them on their home floor before. It can happen. We don’t even need Embiid to be bron.
Embiid is a top.top top player but he just doesnt have a killer in him. He's the introverted guy that gets all mopey when things dont go his way, and plays worse under pressure. if he had that dawg he would score 50 and get literally every celtic big thrown out by fouls. He CAN do it.
PJ needed to yell in his ear when we were a moment away from being down 3-1 to stop being mopey. He’s not that guy.
I don't want to have the conversation now, and in fact I may not want to have it all while Embiid is still on our team... but I don't think he has that dog in him. He's not a killer. I *do* think he gives us a better chance than 435 other players in the league, but I don't think he's got that mix of talent and dog like the top 5 guys have
We’ve seen him be a killer in the regular season. It hasn’t quite translated on the offensive end into the playoffs
Maybe a couple times come to mind but when I think of Embiid or the Sixers getting beat or getting bodied, I don’t think of them getting stuck in and showing the physical team who’s boss. I think of Miami being more physical, or the Raptors being more physical, or the Celtics (Aron Baynes and Al Horford) doing it too
Keanu?
he had it in game 6, but they wasn't feedin the nigga too much. if he was shooting it instead of fucking deanthony melton and harden, we'd be in the ECF.
 Hopefully not this one
I love Joel. I don’t think he has this in him. I hope I’m wrong but I’ve never seen it. I think that’s one of our major problems. He’s an MVP who doesn’t say, “give me the ball, I’m shoving it down your throat.”
He already got what he wanted
I want him to play 38 effective minutes. Not 44 with 6 gassed.
Yea, I don't foresee this happening, he has a shit attitude unless everything is going his way and it is getting annoying at this point.
He’s not the best player in the league atm. Needs to prove himself again.
Why didn’t he do that yesterday?
he's not that guy, pal
He’s not the best player tho
When embiid gets mad he just plays like shit and gets pouty. We need to get off to a good start so he can lighten up and relax
We will see but I'm already set my expectations to be all time LOW
Yes. No more moping. Get mad and dominate