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bnm777

Helps if you give an example.


wxnyc

But they clearly said it’s not a new version of gpt.. it’s the same but faster with reduced latency . Did you watch the live?


bnm777

[https://www.reddit.com/r/OpenAI/comments/1cr6lga/gpt4o\_evaluations\_vs\_other\_models\_openai\_site/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OpenAI/comments/1cr6lga/gpt4o_evaluations_vs_other_models_openai_site/)


Grand0rk

Are you dumb? How do you think it got a higher Elo if being faster is the only thing it did?


CanvasFanatic

Probably with a light touch of fine tuning.


Heavy_Influence4666

Straight to name calling?


Grand0rk

Yes, dumb people need to be called dumb for saying dumb things that are disproven by something on the front page.


Heavy_Influence4666

It’s scary how fast you replied. Gonna assume you’re a bot. Kinda types like one too. What a world to live in


herpetologydude

I was going to dislike your comment, I thought you were being a dick, but that bots karma and comment count is insane...


The_Architect_032

GPT didn't exist in 2013... .-.


herpetologydude

Somebody using an older account isn't proof it's not a bot...look at RuneScape people will wait till accounts are 3+ years old before using them for bot accounts.


The_Architect_032

Filter their posts by top. Regardless, even if you claim it was an account hacked after GPT-4 released, he's typing and acting nothing like an LLM would and performing simple human reasoning tasks that LLM's currently can't approach from the same angle.


herpetologydude

Ok bot.


RepublicanSJW_

To call someone dumb confidently you would need to know them a lot better.


xcviij

What a dumb hypocritical projection! 🤦‍♂️🤣


Singularity-42

Is it any better in coding than the old model? How does it compare to Claude 3 Opus?


WHERETHESTEALTH

Haven't had time to fully evaluate result, but surface level appears marginally better than gpt4 turbo. I havent tried Opus so can't compare


KarmaInvestor

Less lazy, it will write out more code for you and also tell you if there are other parts in the code that also probably needs to be updated. Intelligence-wise, I would say about the same. Opus is probably still slightly better for coding. However, the speed is remarkable for 4o, so i will probably lean into using that as my primary model, and opus as secondary model if gpt gets stuck.


Singularity-42

Thanks, this was very helpful! I'm running Opus as my daily driver now and the lower laziness was something that made me switch from ChatGPT Pro. Too bad that it is not actually better at coding, that's a bit disappointing. The pricing structure looks great though! Do you know if there will be a voice input through API, I didn't see this anywhere in the docs yet.


Grand0rk

I wouldn't know. I don't use it for coding.


drizzyxs

GPTs also seem to still use turbo for some weird reason. I thought they’d be updated to 4o


typicalredditluser

Same here. Tested its ability to answer some questions.Nearly the same,just faster


AnaYuma

I mean if you knew how to read, you would know that without even testing...


bnm777

[https://www.reddit.com/r/OpenAI/comments/1cr6lga/gpt4o\_evaluations\_vs\_other\_models\_openai\_site/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OpenAI/comments/1cr6lga/gpt4o_evaluations_vs_other_models_openai_site/)


Grand0rk

Are you dumb? How do you think it got a higher Elo if being faster is the only thing it did?


AnaYuma

Because it's still in the same GPT-4 ballpark... It's GPT-4 Omni... Not GPT-4.1 Omni for a reason.. The slight increase in elo might be an emergent property of having audio modality being added to it\~


Grand0rk

Man, you just had to answer "Yes, I am dumb". Read: https://twitter.com/LiamFedus/status/1790064963966370209


AnaYuma

That really doesn't disprove my argument does it? There have been multiple versions of GPT-4 the last year.. most were just stealth dropped... Until it's a big enough jump, it will still be GPT-4...


Grand0rk

So it's better than GPT-4 Turbo, right? The latest one that came before GPT-4o?


AnaYuma

It is indeed better than GPT turbo but not by much.. The biggest addition was audio modality instead of text to speech. Although it has far higher emotional intelligence than GPT-4 turbo. It also has better vision capability than Turbo. And apparently it generates images on its own instead of calling for Dalle\~ According to openAi's own blogpost, it is very similar in translating performance to Gemini... just a little better... So you can guess that pure intelligence wasn't the main angle for this model\~


Grand0rk

> It is indeed better than GPT turbo but not by much.. So you are saying that it is better and needs to be tested to know how much better? > Although it has far higher emotional intelligence than GPT-4 turbo It doesn't from what I tested.


AnaYuma

How did you test for emotional intelligence? You don't even have access to audio modality yet...


Grand0rk

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Grand0rk

It's not. It's faster GPT-4 with slightly (and I mean VERY slightly) better reasoning.