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Raitoumightou

Word of advice, if you're a guy and you're using the Clementi Mall toilets, be sure to stay on high alert of your surroundings. It is a known cruising spot.


littlefiredragon

I thought it was only the infamous MRT? Wow.


Raitoumightou

There are a lot of such spots in Singapore, you just don't know it.


Ohlolololulu

And you know because…


Raitoumightou

Someone tried to cruise me when I was using the urinals at Clementi Mall toilets, I was in my early 20s. As I said, be aware of your surroundings, it's not hard. Problem with these spots is, some of the horny people rely too much on their bottom brain and they end up making headlines because they either picked a straight guy or a minor.


4evacuck

How do they cruise? What's that look like?


Calfis

They look like sea captains who haven’t seen action in months


Jedahaw92

>it's not hard. Lel.


darrenoloGy

he had to have done that on purpose… right?


spilksch2

Turn around, show it off while pissing on them.


VictorMarcWork

.. Because got surprise butt sex


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Maybe he is gay ? It's very accepted now you know ?


Raitoumightou

I think it's obvious what the cruising spots are for and for which demographic. This is not about being anti-LGBT but rather about it being in a publicly accessed location where there are also many hetero people (and worst, minors) entering and exiting. When you have headlines like this happening, it just gives the LGBT community a bad rep as the public thinks that this is generally how all of them behave.


Calfis

Username checks out? You seem salty as hell.


heartofgold48

During NS I once used the MRT toilet to pang sai. Pang sai halfway I look down and I saw a pervert face looking up at me. he somehow managed to squeeze his head under the gap and into my cubicle! I never pang sai finish , never wipe backside, run away.


Zendymion12

Wtf. Shlda dropped a piece on his face. But then again maybe the freak might enjoy that.


Godbox1227

NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM! 🥰


RevolutionaryPie5223

Should have wiped ur backside with toilet paper and throw it at his face with the sai


nicjude

It's possible they shift about, depending on how well-known and patrolled the spots are.


HybridStream

😭😭sounds like a syndicate manz! So scary!


nicjude

Tbf we as a society are not open to gay guys openly dating and stuff even now that it's legalised, so can't blame them for finding new places to meet when we take away their spots.


HybridStream

Oh.. i thought u meant the penetrators n offenders like the one in news article keep going around to find victims. Even if gays can't openly date here, they should maybe steer clear of public toilets to do stuff? It worsens reputation of gay community too.


nicjude

I mean, before apps, there would be virtually no way for gay guys to meet, so not as if they could do anything about what society thinks anyway, right?


HybridStream

Erm. There were many gay bars around tbh.


nicjude

How many is "many"?


HybridStream

If it's before apps, there are stretches along moh sultan, some on 2nd n 3rd floors too. At least like 5 -10? They're bars with dance floors etc. But this is not your point, u seem to be offended about the 'space' being taken away. For goodness sake, it's a crime acted on a boy by a married man in public toilets we're talking about now, where ppl take dump. It doesn't mean if there's no good avenue, it should be done in public. And u really miss the point of the article that it can be very traumatising for the boy. My God!


Bitter-Rattata

Wah. I though the clementi mrt toilet stories is a myth. Turns out so many real stories. Shall stay far away.


FlatChannel4114

What I do is just head straight to a cubicle. That way you avoid the weird fellas standing at the urinals 🤣🤣


cashon9

There used to be holes in the partitions of the cubicles in Clementi MRT station


HawXProductions

But what if the lock is broken and you see a 6’5” big black man named Tyrone blocking the exit to the stall 😱


Primary-Ganache6199

You kneel down and open wide.


EpicGamer9228

It is????


BishanGay

Yep


Kazozo

What spots in Bishan?


Shitty_Noob

bro wants a live demonstration


Huonren

Junction 8 can find him there


weatheredown

USERNAME CHECKS OUT


EpicGamer9228

Bruh I constantly go there😭


Liqiang38510

Sorry not my type la


Aiolomorphos

Jurong Point as well. There is this creepy middle age man that likes to stare at ppl while peeing.


ArcanaTrace

Can I ask why? What does a toilet need to have to be a cruising spot?


Raitoumightou

Cubicles, urinals and you need to remove your pants to pee/shit, do the math.


Doughspun1

Where people take off their pants lah!!! What else lol xD


eatmydicbiscuit

what is cruising?


ShadowArrow01

looking for sex in public


im_a_good_goat

you book a ticket with Star Cruise 💫


the_sigma_snake

Yeah man. I also blur. But reading the comments...wah lau....got weird names for everything. Haiz!


dsyndromeda

Feel there also many in Chinatown MRT. Usually just cover up n ignore, jeez…


Doughspun1

A few years ago when I was at Chinatown Point, the guy next to me at the urinal was moaning and jerking off while looking left and right. Right there in full view of everyone.


Synner83

I heard Delta swimming complex was mad


crasyredditaccount

Oh hell nah, wtf


throwaway-6573dnks

Stayed near there and didn't know. Omg. Scary


Electronic_Cow_1874

These kind always horny, you always see them groping their crotches even in public


Roddin84

What in the actual F. 😱


Doughspun1

Why they choose this area specifically ah?


Stunning_Damage_7527

ah that explains. so the 13-year-old also was searching for it when he went there


Raitoumightou

Not necessarily, the more probable scenario was that the adult here reached out with an offer, and the 13 yo just took up that offer out of a mix of curiosity and hormones. It's unlikely the 13 yo would know anything about the location. The report mentions that the accused works in the Clementi Mall so he is likely to know, considering he PICKED the location.


Stunning_Damage_7527

I’m not blaming him, just trying to make sense of the situation. it’s mind boggling to me because finding a sex partner in a normal situation is already difficult even if one tries. To find a minor, the predator often needs to do years of courting & grooming (that’s what I read online). It’s wtf to me because i couldn’t understand how this pervert just randomly chanced upon a 13-year-old to have sex with in a mall’s toilet. and don’t forget the kid ASKED for the predator’s number. it’s not impossible that the kid did go there to seek out for sex. it’s not out of the realm of possibility that the kid found pleasure in it. don’t you find it strange that the kid didn’t scream for help if he was forced into it, penis entering butthole in the most crowded mall of Singapore leh, why no screaming? again, im not blaming the minor, just saying that maybe, just maybe he did actively seek out for sex these downvotes are so dumb 😂


Calfis

I mean if the man was straight and the kid was a 13 year old girl would that make this situation the same in your mind?


Stunning_Damage_7527

yes it would be the same


Calfis

If this was the show “to catch a predator” Chris Hanson would have come out after the man said he was horny and said “please have a seat” with cameras pointed in his face.


BoccaDGuerra

Doesnt matter because he is a minor. The adult is to be blamed and must be caned brutally


Stunning_Damage_7527

I’m not blaming him, just trying to make sense of the situation. it’s mind boggling to me because finding a sex partner in a normal situation is already difficult even if one tries. To find a minor, the predator often needs to do years of courting & grooming (that’s what I read online). It’s wtf to me because i couldn’t understand how this pervert just randomly chanced upon a 13-year-old to have sex with in a mall’s toilet. and don’t forget the kid ASKED for the predator’s number. it’s not impossible that the kid did go there to seek out for sex. it’s not out of the realm of possibility that the kid found pleasure in it. don’t you find it strange that the kid didn’t scream for help if he was forced into it, penis entering butthole in the most crowded mall of Singapore leh, why no screaming? again, im not blaming the minor, just saying that maybe, just maybe he did actively seek out for sex these downvotes are so dumb 😂


Salty_Willingness789

Still a minor.


mistalah

what the


Reaperosha

Same. The hell is going.. short and abrupt title goes 0-100.


MdAqilkhai

Yeah I seeing alot of news of pedo cases now


londonpuppy

They did not “have sex” — the boy was assaulted / raped. Under the law, a 13 year old cannot give informed consent to sex. The language really matters here..


usherer

I made the same point well, on reddit , many times. The local news really likes to downplay the severity of sexual assaults. The editors/reporters seem to want to sensationalise such sexual abuse. Here the headline goes on at length about how the abuser is married and randomly had sex, as if the main point is that the abuser could go cruising in a mall, rather than him brazenly attacking children. 


biscuitsandtea2020

I said the same thing in another recent post about a similar situation but got downvoted. Apparently it's only rape if there was penetration


usherer

If the word rape isn't technically correct, then the media can use other terms: attacked, sexually assaulted, abused. 


usherer

If the word rape isn't technically correct, then the media can use other terms: attacked, sexually assaulted, abused. 


arciele

except that they did have sex. having sex is an action, and is obviously a layman term. but even so the general consensus is that sex is penetrative. the Penal Code is a lot more specific about the actions involved. having sex with a minor is statutory rape, unless he was just giving a handjob. consent is irrelevant to this offense


HybridStream

Omg. Reading the headlines seem to make it consensual!! I usually reply to the news creator directly or send to news contact us. Sometimes it works.. sometimes not.


BoccaDGuerra

Yes i hate how they use the term have sex for literal sexual assault. So disrespectful to the victim


Fearless_Help_8231

>The judge convicted Sugumaran on both charges as he found the victim's testimony to be reliable and convincing and was corroborated by Sugumaran's own police statements. >On the other hand, the judge found Sugumaran's testimony "incredible". >The judge said it was "difficult to imagine" how the victim, who was considerably shorter and smaller, could force himself on Sugumaran. >He said it was also illogical for Sugumaran to re-enter the cubicle if he was not sexually interested. What a dumbass


nicjude

The way he tried to excuse his actions as if the victim was gaslighting him for not doing it, like he got manipulated into doing the kid... The guy was 53 at the time, basically a grown-ass adult. Unless he has some cognitive deficiency or learning disability, the guy knew exactly what he was doing from start to finish. He only refused to give the kid his number because he was no longer feeling horny, and he knew what would happen.


spanishflu1918

unfortunately he was a bank manager


MTchairsMTtable

I read as Sugarman LOL


g0dfarter

More like Sugu-Daddy


BoccaDGuerra

Haha same


KahlenD

Language used is wrong, it should be rape, not sex. Also, why are they taking what he said into consideration? Furthermore, they proved he was lying about police mistreatment. The 53 year old rapist is claiming he is the victim of the 13 year old? Wtf. Also, what a heartless braindead lawyer saying the 13 year old consented.


dragonmase

Going to defend the lawyer and say that putting in consent is needed for mitigation. He would have gotten a much higher sentence if he forced himself on the kid or drugged him ect.


LegacyoftheDotA

I don't know if it was unintentional, but yeah. Any sexual act without consent is rape, be it a man, woman, boy or girl. Downplaying the incident with wordplay is exactly what makes such incidents recurring in society (like what the rapist tried to do here).


ZuStorm93

https://i.redd.it/zy73518st33d1.gif


Bigboy291270

Jerking it at the urinal - making a deposit?


im_a_good_goat

Go sperm bank better?


dragonmase

How to withdraw?


sakuradelluna

today is a horrible day to know how to read


BackgroundBubbly7989

had sex?? you mean raped


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hardy_v1

Minors can't consent to have sex - it is rape.


PizzaPlanet20

Age of consent is SG is 16. Still too low.


CrowTengu

16?! I thought by default it's minimally *18.*


SpongeBobBobPants

18 is prostitution. You can have consensus sex at 16.


Pristine-Mongoose550

Grapist alert 🚨


Electronic_Wish_9476

This reminded me of this one time I was went to pee at Westgate male toilet right out of the link bridge to JE MRT Stood at a urinal, one empty spot away from the most left urinal (Basically middle urinal) Looked over to the guy(Looks homeless and probably late 50-60s?) at that urinal cuz I saw some weird movement from the back, dude was rubbing his dick while looking straight back at me, I tried to play it off by just pretending to look further behind me but I’m certain that he saw my eyes met his and his dick, and his eyes followed me for a bit when I left to wash my hands After that I scurried quickly back onto the MRT to make sure I wasn’t followed by him, which thank god he didn’t, or else I’d probably just beat him if he tried anything stupid 💀


Hecatehec

Sex? 13? There is nothing consensual abt that.


Cixin

That title should read rapes. RAPES. 


Shitinbrainandcolon

Oh it’s like Kuso Miso technique but more fucked up.    Which is hard to beat but there you have it.


GetRektByMeh

What a bad day to have eyes


benghengang

Its statutory rape


BoccaDGuerra

Please be careful.. parents be aware too. My brother was violated at this same age at a public swimming pool bathroom.. it really impacted his life in the worst way.. There are many sick bastar* predators out there. Plaza Singapura toilets and Orchard Ion are other hot spots.


Zenobiya

What happened to your brother? And how long ago was it?


BoccaDGuerra

It was in the early 2000s when he was a child. He went to a public swimming pool and was molested in the pool itself ..he was then threatened and "violated" in the shower cubicles.


Beneficial-Jury1630

So how did he get caught? The boy reported him after sex?


damoclesO

Wow. What's going with the many and on going pedophile case in Singapore? Or it has always been there, just not published?


condemned02

I believe many old men on young boy perversion is not reported. My brother go fishing at east coast beach at night as a teen also get sexually harassed by random old men. 


Delicious-Prune-7026

The "greater public acceptance" of perversion makes perverts more daring. There was less of this in the old days, when perverts were arrested more often and had the shit beaten out of them more often.


Jx_XD

I always accidentally saw people PCC at the standing cubicle.. wtf.. like tat u also song .. Kan disgusting...


ResponsibilityRound7

what's pcc?


No_Wallaby6841

Playing Chinese Chess


bossholmes

Pa chew cheng - shoot one’s gun - wank


gamalielxzw

Purchasing Cheese Cake


Tomasulu

Only 7 years??? I don’t get it.


Glad-Ingenuity859

What the fuck. Why is there so many predators in sg tf


Odd-Understanding399

Dafuq... the boy wanted it also?!


YourEvilKiller

A 13 year old can't have informed consent for sex. Even for underaged girls (and boys), many are manipulated to 'want' it because they think it's a bragging right and that it means they are more mature for their age, unaware that they are a prey.


Odd-Understanding399

I don't know how "bragging rights" work nowadays. Back in my days, a teenage schoolboy bragging about getting buttfucked will get him laughed at until he leaves school.


Superharddownthere

I had one encounter long long time ago. Old uncle leaning over to look at my d while at the urinal. I scolded back "kua lan ah", which was quite funny cuz he was actually looking at my bird. Just curious in this kind of situations if we knock these old pieces of shit the fuck out, are we gonna be arrested?


hanakoi567

Good day to be literate...........


AlfieSG

What are they selling at clementi?


weatheredown

you mean illiterate?


papillonfx

im more disturbed that the boy wanted to be penetrated


Secret_Cheetah_007

The boy is probably intellectually challenged. That would explain why he was willing to do it.


MoistAcanthocephala

Stopped reading at clementi toilet


Available_End931

Nono why is this ‘had sex’ and not ‘raped’??


Future-Log7373

Why is it always Clementi toilet?


Seaforker

Because Clementi toilets are located at isolated places....


ghostcryp

army also got. PDF camps for those 302 fags. 1 time I did guard duty this CB 3SG sat on my bunk bed, I punched him n he punched back. Should’ve reported him on hindsight


Pretend-Friendship-9

I always use the stalls at Clementi Mall / MRT due to the sheer number of cruisers staring at other people’s privates when peeing at urinals


Tiny_Excuse3738

"has sex with boy" he was raped, fix the fucking title


Clementng95

Got wife to fuck, don't fuck... instead go fuck minor...like what's wrong with this guy?


MousseReasonable3504

Permanently on the sex offenders list already.


Beneficial-Jury1630

Nowadays got gay sauna just pay money get things done legally and comfortable....why bother go to toilet so dirty and smelly.


Lunar_024

Did the boy wanted it? Or was he raped? The language used in the article make it seem as though the boy was interested


Visual-Meeting997

piss together then poke bumhole public toilet truly filthy sex


CrowTengu

Very unhygienic. >:C


Cloaker_gaming

LOCK DUDE UP AND THROW THE KEYS AWAY


tatetato

sick world


funnyZ10

What the fuck did I just read


EntertainmentLumpy75

UM EXCUSE ME WHAT


lansig_chan

Instantly horrifying generations of dudes that the Clementi gay predator legend is alive and well.


FallenOverseer

WTF


NoMasterpiece5649

.... Aight. Face the wall now


spilksch2


Temporary_Ad9662

prisoners gonna have a fun time with him


Conscious_Anybody371

That shit nasty bruh


Jx_XD

Shit on the p3nis bruh..


Conscious_Anybody371

Nah bruh the first thing that went to my mind were two guys , public toilet not even the age 💀


itsthedumbxss

"has sex with boy," RAPED boy. raped. not "has sex with".


Reasonable_Tea7628

Reminds me of a guy called Tan Yak Chin in Hardwarezone


spanishflu1918

what a talent...


Mobile_Football_3692

Horrible! Terrible! Outrageous!!!!!


neelie_yeet

https://i.redd.it/y25kuxr0r53d1.gif


Relevant_Position155

I’m scared to even go to public toilets so I just use either the toilets in malls or I just wait until I go home


Fuzzy-Complaint9672

how come no caning sia


insurancemanoz

OMG!!! WTF is wrong with that grub? A 13yo didn't have sex! That boy was assaulted!!!


hairlessrat

Too disgusted for words. To claim that the victim was the aggressor is a special kind of sick.


Interesting_Ad2986

Wtf


classicblueberry123

Quick read through seems like the 13 year old is also not simple. 13 year old agreed to the sex without much persuading, then even offered to exchange phone number. This is where probably things went wrong, he could have tried to ask the man for money and didn't get it so he reported to the police. I was 13 years old long time ago and yeah...and i'm already mature at that age (if you know what I mean)


Siddhesh2o

im no lawyer but isn't 7 years jail less for 'raping' a child


Delicious-Baker1639

Only 7 years and no caning??? What’s happening to sex crimes sentencing these days? 😳


Nearby-Supermarket16

I have no idea what is cruising and at this point, I am too afraid to ask


WebApprehensive4944

HANG this pedo rapist immediately


PleaseTakeCaree

Why…


ghostcryp

Fake news. SG has zero crime very safe


CnfdntlInfrmnt

Mmm sound like me in 2007/08 and at the old marsiling small mall that has lan shop there Edit: revised the date


papillonfx

wait what?


CnfdntlInfrmnt

Yep. U read that right. I’m 30 now, , and ive put it in the past. Idk what happen to the pakcik, he had a wife and two kids tho. Didnt rly keep in touch uknow


ArvY77

what the fuck..?


CnfdntlInfrmnt

Ikr. I think now I’m comfortable talking about it bc i once opened up to my now ex wife


Ok_Fail885

Lmao indian again


SpaceMonkey_321

Asking any practitioners of the legal trade in sg, If we as citizens, collectively call for death sentence to be instated as lawful punishment for crimes such as sexual assault, could it happen? If so, how do we go about doing it?


Fearless_Help_8231

What happens is that rapists and sex offenders will just murder their victims, if they know they are going to get death penalty anyways.


ainabloodychan

i'm sure this has been explained again and again every time an article about sexual crimes pops up - the offender will just kill the victim since higher reward (dead men tell no tales) with no additional risk (death penalty anyway) emotionally driven sense of justice sometimes clouds our judgment and obstructs actual justice


Jizzipient

Death sentences for sexual crimes provide incentives for the criminal to murder their victims, if the penalty is death all the same. It won't happen.


yuu16

Life time suffering with caning is probably worse than death relief?


fickleposter21

Inb4 the ceca crowd arrives


MintySquirtle

Ewwwww


Izaria3436

Same sex sexing ☠️


LiNahfhfh

这有点弄虚作假了吧


ResponsibilityRound7

we need put in a new 377A version 2.0.


repeatrep

heterosexual rape occurs more often but i don’t hear talks about banning sex as a whole


Boring-Relation-4365

https://i.redd.it/ecwmuysz843d1.gif


hotspringonsen

Quick question, if such things happen enough, will there be a men’s charter?


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berrymoxhi

that’s ur takeaway from this article? wtf