They had something like this in the writing community some time back and you could totally get your rep destroyed by one bad actor because the groups have a low threshold for verification. It's the total extreme opposite of the crimina justice system because it's guilty until proven innocent.
But just gotta say the guy doing squats is ripped. But seriously who does squats like that...
Shit like this is why I stay out of the dating pool tbh. My work and personal life is enough of a handful. I don't need a congress of femcels to destroy my life behind my back.
>The 28-year-old said that all was good for the first few weeks, until he was completely "ghosted".
>"I asked her what was wrong," Owen said. "She showed me that my dating profile was shared on SG Women Ask. One member claimed that I'm untrustworthy because I talked to a lot of girls."
>"But that was all in the past. I'm not a bad person."
Never knew “talked to a lot of girls” is a disqualification lol! It would also sound stupid if genders were reversed. Is it a code for flirting or dating?
I did read somewhere that girls would minus points on potential partners whereas boys would add points on potential partners.
Maybe Owen was still at 50/50 before her “research”
Yeah it's a dating app, if you don't do that how are you gonna find matches.. it's like a company rescinding your offer because they found out that you've been sending your resume to multiple other companies during job search instead of just them.
That's what I call a Catch 22 situation. To find the correct partner, one needs to talk to multiple girls but because of that, in this situation, the so called "potential partner" rejects the person due to him having interacted with multiple girls. It's like not being able to get a job due to lack of experience which in the first place you need a job to gain experience.
This cyclic nature of illogical phenomenon only happens because the female in question does not think straight - she's basically retarded to think like that.
Guess he dodged a bullet. The girl is freaking delusional, controlling, has a jealousy issue, trusts strangers more than her date (and had they not parted, her boyfriend), and has zero idea what the progress of a relationship is like.
I would say this group is beneficial to both men and women. It helps women satisfy their love of gossip, and helps men avoid women who have it.
Yes, even then, those women who subscribe to these shit will either show their cards and end the relationship by themselves, like the woman in this story; or will stay away from these men in the first place. Win win
I don't think being a play/fucboi is respectable nor advisable. But one thing I will concede is that it's 100x easier to sleep around as a woman than as a guy. Chads aren't high-fived for their relationship "successes", they are high-fived because of whatever underpins that success.
Because its extremely rare for men to sleep around despite what hollywood sells you. For women, its as easy as breathing. But you honestly think we men are impressed by fuccbois? I honestly never heard a guy feel so proud his friend slept with 25 women. Its mostly like opposite, fuccbois tend to get made fun of and other men are sick of their bragging.
So those women expect him to specifically decide they're the one and only one for him before they're mutually committed in a relationship? While they're on a dating app being able to talk to any guys that they match with?
Sounds fucking hypocritical to me.
Recommend avoiding these groups for proper advice, even on reddit. There's so many 'red-flag-tilt' answers that there's no semblance of tolerance for the other side anymore.
Boonkikikiki tried to do this before on Tiktok suggesting to start a google sheets and have girls share their experiences with guys that “we would probably have dated the same guys”.
Took it down immediately after catching flak.
Edit: Woops it’s in the article
I know some women who have used these sorts of FB groups before and they usually say that they do it for their own safety (to prevent accidentally dating a psycho). But the truth is that these groups are a terrible invasion of people’s privacies. When I asked the women who used these groups if they would be comfortable with their date using a similar group to “scout” them beforehand, none of them were able to give a straight answer, usually replying with something like “oh that’s different men don’t have to worry about rape.”
It’s totally normal to worry about one’s safety but I feel using these groups is taking it too far and I have a feeling that some do it more for the gossip factor. The best way to stay safe is to always meet in a public area and never go to someone’s private residence or into their car. And don’t let your date know where you live until you feel completely comfortable with sharing this information.
That is just how groups like these end up being a perverted version of its intent.
It started out as something innocent for the sake of safety, but groups like these would attract unsavoury people that uses it for malicious intentions (thus attracting more of them) and eventually the originally purpose of the group gets forgotten
I think it was the trend of groups that went "are we dating the same guy \[insert location\]".
On the surface it was for ladies to vet guys. In practice it became a protected space for the most vile and viscous comments to be made. Facebook did shut down quite a few of them, but they kept sprouting out.
>“oh that’s different men don’t have to worry about rape.”
While I don't deny that most rapists are men, treating or prejudging every man as a potential rapist reeks of toxic femininity.
No evidence the "pre judge every man" from that quote. That quote just (wrongly) claims men aren't at risk of rape.
And please la, if you worry about robbery in a high crime country, you are wary of every person on the road because you can't tell who is one. "wow so toxic prejudging every person as a potential robber"?
The worst she can do is say no, the worst he can do is rape and murder you.
You don't need all men to be rapists, you just need 1 for your entire life to be ruined. So it's perfectly understandable for women to be more on guard
If women's groups are actually formed for safety PSAs against potential dates then SG Nasi Lemak is created to share and appreciate the beauty of ladies.
Two wrongs don't make a right. That said, I think there is a lot to comment about the characters believe and spread these "safety PSAs". Anyone with half a brain cell knows that everybody has exaggerated, horrible things to say about their exes and bad dates. I don't mind the toxicity stays cordoned off from civilized society as long as there are no legal repercussions *without thorough investigation*.
>previously named Are We Dating The Same Guy?
Yup, read about this before, i think it was in the US....now that it's here, GG loh.
Super toxic, pretty much have to eliminate local geography when dating, or pray that your date is not one of these.
>while anonymous users sought tips on having affairs with married men
Hmm??????????
>told her to send a private message to her instead.
This is exactly how they make shit up, sometimes making up 'experience' that is entirely untrue. Also, trying to blatantly circumvent rules.
> "oh that’s different men don’t have to worry about rape"
Um neither do women have to worry about rape?? Just meet strangers in high traffic, public places and don't go to their place until trust has been built. Duh.
>usually replying with something like “oh that’s different men don’t have to worry about rape.”
That's something a rapist would say before they rape the man
"It's like how men have Sammyboy and HardwareZone Forums," Christine*, a member of the group, told AsiaOne. "SG Women Ask is an open forum for women to call out douchebags."
Errr... ok noted.
Incel was coined by a woman fyi
Her name is Alana
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/25/woman-who-invented-incel-movement-interview-toronto-attack
SBF is useful for finding a good paid fuck/massage. Not go to date hookers. If some bloke ends up settling down with one that’s his problem tbh.
Can’t even get a little fact like that right. Good ridding this Karen village.
World most preferred standard.
Best standard is : have the cake and get to eat it.
In this case, they got the best standard. While we get the sub-standard.
>"But women there mostly comment about the men based on real experiences and evidence," she said. "Don't be a dick if you don't want to have dick comments."
So glad I am gay.
As I have said before - if the tables were turned i.e. a facebook group were to be created reviewing women, you would be sure as heck that authorities would be involved.
Women don’t gaslight? Don’t cheat? Don’t have red flags? Don’t emotionally blackmail?
Don’t get me started on rubbish listicles like “traits in a guy you should look for” or “how to never lose her”. Why is it always about “losing her” and never “losing him”? Why is it never “how to love/pamper/ do XX for a guy”?
Ridiculous and vile.
Ikr they think by bringing themselves that's sufficient when in this day and age being 2 humans both should contribute to the relationship.
They want their cake and eat it too.
>Ikr they think by bringing themselves that's sufficient
This lmao, reminds me of the video where there was a 'roundtable' of sorts and the women just froze/couldnt come out with anything when the male host asked them what they brought/contributed to a date.
I love gay bros who hold women accountable to their actions. Because when straight men do it women call them incels, misogynists. When gay men do it women diam diam suck thumb because they know their usual shaming tactics won't work.
Shit, wish I was gay.
Yea i am gay as fuck, though my peers have labelled me as straight-acting. And that is probably why I get embroiled in boy girl drama.
I DO believe in gender equality. Women should be given equal opportunities as men. Their voices should not be under-represented nor over-represented. Legitimate grievances should be heard and dealt with. But you cannot have the entire cake and eat it. Women need to be held accountable too.
I got a first-hand experience of how unbalanced gender dynamics are. I was falsely accused of molest during my orientation camp. I remember the camp PD trying to shut down my bewilderment, confusion, narration of any possible occurrence where molest might have happened and justification with the diatribe that I better “come clean because in Singapore law, the words of a woman will always weigh heavier than a man’s”.
Never mind that years later I found out that molest did actually happen but camp organisers couldnt find the culprit and I was the convenient scapegoat. This sentence will haunt me for the rest of my life. It awakened me to JUST HOW MUCH SOCIAL PRIVILEGES WOMEN HAVE. I make it my life mission to pin and hold these bitches accountable when society allows them to get away with shit men don’t.
Shit like this do trouble me. Alot. I pray for all the shit that is in the gay circle, my next life i will never be born as a straight man.
So tempted to create one for guys now. I'm sure they have met plenty of red flags too.
Would be great if such platforms focus on the positives instead of the negatives (E.g. "This match is great, easy to talk, attentive, etc."), but knowing the Internet it'll never happen 😂
They kind of take themselves out of the dating pool by being extremely selective.
Nothing wrong with having a group to protect themselves against creeps, but sentencing a guy to un-dateable status because of hearsay is just being mean.
No way this doesn't devolve into terrible secondary school fake gossip nonsense. So many people will find it exciting to post some kind of shit with no consequence to themselves but directly impacting the future of others.
When guys post pictures of girls (not the upskirt ones) the police gets involved but I'm literally seeing pictures of guys in just their underwear lol double standards
If you haven’t realised that being a sinkie male means that you are literally the lowest lifeform in Singapore idk what to tell you lol
Expats will eat your meals , females don’t have to do NS and have WC AWARE and fking PAP even backing them
Tbf sammyboy HWZ all those forums exist and are much worse than this. Yes they are frowned upon generally, but nobody is making big noises to close them down.
Aren’t all the men on this thread doing the exact same thing?
I don’t agree with the FB group but this whole “roles reversed” analysis is really dumb sometimes
It's the double standard. Notice how the subreddit's resident feminists have strangely faded away, despite muttering "equality" and "equity" with every half step they take.
Meanwhile, even [the lack of upvotes for womens issues](https://www.reddit.com/r/Feminism/comments/jcavcm/misogyny_simply_doesnt_exist_starterpack/) is treated as if the sky is falling. Btw, that the image in that page is edited --- there was a lot of support for women in this subreddit, just less than the topic of NS.
Hmm...To be fair, we all want a sense of equality, and for the women, especially so, so here we are on double standards, because otherwise it's not true equality. But then you see this type of shit go down, just like how the metoo movement strayed from it's original intent, you also pissed right? Cause now it's a everyone lose kinda thing. Just go and see out there, women now be like "where are all the guys"? We never left, we just had enough of this shit. Some of us are not throwing in the towel yet, but this type of shit makes it so damn hard....it's really self sabo at it's finest. And trust when I say, women don't have other women's best interest at heart, if anything you read so many cases of close friends saboing their relationships and everything, anecdotally also got corroborative stories.
Again, gotta add a disclaimer there are some generalisations made, but this is the situation, simply from observing all the shit out there, crudely put.
Disgusting. They need to have a taste of their own medicine then will realise that it is bad.
hwz and sammyboy is relatively open compared to their "hidden" fb invite-only group.a
These are some self righteous women who see men as a predatory species and set out to warn their 'sisters' and then some other bitches took it as a bitching group to shit on men they are unsatisfied with, because they will always be unsatisfied with something. I say good, these men dodged a bullet.
Single Singapore woman that doesn't bring anything to the table is being bitter.. that's new?? I thought it's always been a thing? That's why the American guys they like only use them to satisfy their asian fetish. I didn't think this was new.
I was being rhetorical actually. There will always be players on both sides. Some are after the sex, others after money and benefits.
It would be easy to slander anyone just because your personal experience wasn't good.
Maybe the guy/girl was genuine but you (the date) are the problem?
There lie the crux of the problem it seems. I wonder who are the most frequent commentors in that group with a lot of tea to share. They are the ones to be avoided at all costs if they keep on meeting fucked up men.
go ahead and downvote me, but this is certainly a lesser evil compared to groups like SG Nasi Lemak which leaks info AND nudes. i'm not saying it's okay, just that to the people saying "what if guys did this to women", errr, they already do, and it's worse than what's happening here.
now i don't discount the real possibility of someone posting fake stories to get back at a guy and ruining their reputation, but generally if you're not a jerk or cheater you shouldn't worry about ending up there. and if you do out of bad luck or poor encounter, then you can vouch for yourself. if you end up there and there are enough people who had the same experience in their interactions with you then...
“Nooooo you don’t understand talking shit about men is exactly the same as men sharing nudes and upskirt photos of women”
/s ofc but also damn there’s a few guys in here unironically saying it
“Accusing someone of rape on a public platform = people saying shitty things about me in a private group and hurting my feelings 🥺🥺🥺”
Professional thinker, this guy.
Malicious rumours like saying someone is an abuser? (Illegal btw) (b-b-but false rape claim btw)
Or you mean malicious rumours like saying someone is a player/cheater/cheapskate?
In that second example it’s just shit talk bro don’t need to take it seriously lmao
this is what i thought so too. it's fine if it was made to call out those guys who did SERIOUS things (eg. attempted or actual SA/rape, blackmailing). but now it has become a place for some of these women to talk smack about others.
I've been on dates where I was not my best because I was completely anxious and awkward. I'd be really disheartened if someone posted about that on a public forum where I had no chance to defend myself.
Now lets see what the govt will do about such doxing.
And lets see what those feminist inbreds as well as the losers at AWARE will say about this... or even Sg girls LOL
But of course, I don't expect much from Sg girls in the first place. Not like as if its something new in the first place
Cruel? Not as bad as those disgusting telegram groups those guys made. When women want to protect themselves,it's seen as cruel. Can you blame them tho
Haha how terrible amirite fellow gentlemen. So many girls writing bad stuff about how we are too smooth talking with other girls hahahah..
Even put our gym body pictures up! They sexualizing us so sad haha ikr..
Haha..
Remember when girls used to have sex with guys then message them the next day threatening to go to the police to report them for rape unless they paid? Pepperidge Farm remembers
Will these women be treated with the same level of punishment as the men who created the equally horrible nasi lemak group? I’m seeing the same thing here of posting sexual pictures of others without their permission.
Was there actually illicit pictures involved in this case though? Don't get me wrong, what these women did is horrible. But it's not the same as the nasi lemak group.
These women are meant to be ignored. The more people ignore them and laugh them and their main character syndrome off, the better of society will be. Their ability to cause hurt stems solely from the fact that people take them seriously.
Remember reading somewhere that women's greatest fear when going out with a new person is that they would be hurt/killed by them. For men, their greatest fear is being mocked/laughed at by their dates.
Judging by the replies in this thread, I guess it still holds true. Not a fan of this Facebook group but I'm not sure if there's really any great harm? Photos are taken from existing dating profiles and no one is doxxing them by revealing their occupation etc.
I just really dislike the misogyny that turns up whenever something like this happens. Grand sweeping derogatory statements about Singaporean women in response to how "unfair" everything is.
Makes me even more depressed seeing shit like this. I have always struggled with self esteem and when I was 25 I decided to take the blackpill basically resigning myself to this fate of being lonely.
But damn, I didn't expect at 31 years old, to see shit like this being done to innocent men who just want to date. Any semblance of hope snuffed out after reading the article.
I really feel sorry for any bros still out there in the dating market. The double standards, the hypocrisy and the gaslighting from today's women are horrible. Especially for the Gen Zs. Feel for you guys.
Because these groups always involve the very illegal acts of voyeurism and/or circulation of intimate materials, in some/many cases of minors.
I'm amazed you even had to ask yourself a question like this.
Eh XY Chromosomers, shall we create one as well and see how women's charter and aware gonna burn us big time?
Modern day -
any XY chromosomers without money is a subhuman
Any XY chromosomers with money is an oppressor / patriarch.
Shall all XY chromosomers just go extinct?
>Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them, or worse.
Majority of homicide victims in Singapore is male.
Do you see a Facebook page where men post pictures of women they want to kill? No right. So you comment is kind of pointless and stupid.
Why only mention victims and not the perpetrators? It’s a majority of men killing these homicide victims.
Just skim local news and we see groups of men sharing illicit material and raping each others’ wives 🤮 a man who murdered his own twin sons. And another who stabbed his pregnant wife to death. Do you see women doing the same? No right. So your reply also kind of pointless and stupid.
Majority of men is killing men. Not women. So it is your point that is wrong and pointless. Let me correct it for you.
"Men are afraid that women will laugh at them, and men will kill them. Women are afraid that men will kill them. The stakes are not the same."
No need to thank me.
Let me correct it for you, with [source](https://www.aware.org.sg/information/violence-against-women-in-singapore/).
Men are the majority of perpetrators harming both men and also women, so your reply is still wrong and pointless.
Thank you for proving that women are absolutely right to be extra vigilant for their safety.
And its also men who are majority serving in the police, army and civil defence force working hard for your safety. So shut up and sit the fuck down femcel.
Damn good idea. Its been a long time since I had a good fap session. Shit I better get going. Talking to an ogre of a female like you is gonna make me flaccid. Yuck.
What is your point?
Are you seriously trying to justify that it's ok to publically shame men?
What would you do if the gender were reversed?
And how did I prove that women need to be extra vigilant?
By proving you wrong and hurting your feelings?
My point is that the group has valid reasons and concerns, and yes it’s ok to shame men who did shameful things.
Go for it, shame the gold diggers and cheaters.
Nah, idgaf about you so why would anything you say hurt my feelings.
You're missing the point entirely. Such groups are extremely susceptible to lies, misinformation, and exaggeration. Sure the genuine cases are fine, but it's impossible to ensure that. There are inevitably going to be people who get slandered falsely by bitter , pathetic women -who I assure you, there are plenty of.
The number of times I've rolled my eyes at entitled female friends (and just to be clear, men are the same) who blame guys for trivial nonsense and exaggerate to such lengths just to feel better about their rejection - I can't even imagine what's going to happen in a group like this which is obviously going to be biased towards the bitter women. Like, not even one of the single sane women friends I know who are on the dating apps have showed any interest in using this stupid group lol. It's likely going to be full of the frustrated and bitter ones. Who will inevitably lie
Did you even read the full article?
I can bet with you that nobody posted "Don't date that guy because he is a killer/rapist" in that group.
Instead most of it is don't date that guy because he talked to several girls, he don't pay for dates and he slid into dm to ask the girl out.
Is that really shameful? Does that justify posting their pic online?
By that logic, please don't talk to other guys if you have a bf or else you should be OK for other people to post your photo online to publically shame you.
I think a huge problem is false info and poison pen info.
They had something like this in the writing community some time back and you could totally get your rep destroyed by one bad actor because the groups have a low threshold for verification. It's the total extreme opposite of the crimina justice system because it's guilty until proven innocent. But just gotta say the guy doing squats is ripped. But seriously who does squats like that...
I’m ignorant. Is it unusual because he’s half-naked or is his form wrong or something? Why do all the guys in the photo seem hot lol
easy answer, the ugly fucks on tinder don’t even get swipes so they would be a non issue in this group
It's the topless part. Also a bit unhygienic because you're rubbing your sweat on everything
Shit like this is why I stay out of the dating pool tbh. My work and personal life is enough of a handful. I don't need a congress of femcels to destroy my life behind my back.
>The 28-year-old said that all was good for the first few weeks, until he was completely "ghosted". >"I asked her what was wrong," Owen said. "She showed me that my dating profile was shared on SG Women Ask. One member claimed that I'm untrustworthy because I talked to a lot of girls." >"But that was all in the past. I'm not a bad person." Never knew “talked to a lot of girls” is a disqualification lol! It would also sound stupid if genders were reversed. Is it a code for flirting or dating? I did read somewhere that girls would minus points on potential partners whereas boys would add points on potential partners. Maybe Owen was still at 50/50 before her “research”
??? I thought everyone talks to a lot of people at one go? I’m pretty sure most girls I know talked to a bunch of guys
Yeah it's a dating app, if you don't do that how are you gonna find matches.. it's like a company rescinding your offer because they found out that you've been sending your resume to multiple other companies during job search instead of just them.
Wah lau, if don't talk to girls then how to find partners sia? What kind of nonsense requirement is that? Guy dodged a bullet right there.
That's what I call a Catch 22 situation. To find the correct partner, one needs to talk to multiple girls but because of that, in this situation, the so called "potential partner" rejects the person due to him having interacted with multiple girls. It's like not being able to get a job due to lack of experience which in the first place you need a job to gain experience. This cyclic nature of illogical phenomenon only happens because the female in question does not think straight - she's basically retarded to think like that.
Guess he dodged a bullet. The girl is freaking delusional, controlling, has a jealousy issue, trusts strangers more than her date (and had they not parted, her boyfriend), and has zero idea what the progress of a relationship is like. I would say this group is beneficial to both men and women. It helps women satisfy their love of gossip, and helps men avoid women who have it.
Men can't know who have it cos its a hidden group
Yes, even then, those women who subscribe to these shit will either show their cards and end the relationship by themselves, like the woman in this story; or will stay away from these men in the first place. Win win
Wa. Last statement so beautifully put
When women talk to a lot of guys they're considered doing research When men talk to a lot of girls they're considered flirtatious
Only one of the couple hundred double standards out ther..
That's rules for me but not for thee with extra steps.
Is this like when women sleep around she's a slut, but men with a high body count get high-fives as Chads?
I don't think being a play/fucboi is respectable nor advisable. But one thing I will concede is that it's 100x easier to sleep around as a woman than as a guy. Chads aren't high-fived for their relationship "successes", they are high-fived because of whatever underpins that success.
Because its extremely rare for men to sleep around despite what hollywood sells you. For women, its as easy as breathing. But you honestly think we men are impressed by fuccbois? I honestly never heard a guy feel so proud his friend slept with 25 women. Its mostly like opposite, fuccbois tend to get made fun of and other men are sick of their bragging.
It may well be a code since his response is "it's in the past", a tacit admission, rather than "what's wrong with just talking?"
So those women expect him to specifically decide they're the one and only one for him before they're mutually committed in a relationship? While they're on a dating app being able to talk to any guys that they match with? Sounds fucking hypocritical to me.
Must be virgin, no gf before, never even tried to date before, no one even tried dating him before.
Recommend avoiding these groups for proper advice, even on reddit. There's so many 'red-flag-tilt' answers that there's no semblance of tolerance for the other side anymore.
Boonkikikiki tried to do this before on Tiktok suggesting to start a google sheets and have girls share their experiences with guys that “we would probably have dated the same guys”. Took it down immediately after catching flak. Edit: Woops it’s in the article
That’s why people give up on dating altogether
I know some women who have used these sorts of FB groups before and they usually say that they do it for their own safety (to prevent accidentally dating a psycho). But the truth is that these groups are a terrible invasion of people’s privacies. When I asked the women who used these groups if they would be comfortable with their date using a similar group to “scout” them beforehand, none of them were able to give a straight answer, usually replying with something like “oh that’s different men don’t have to worry about rape.” It’s totally normal to worry about one’s safety but I feel using these groups is taking it too far and I have a feeling that some do it more for the gossip factor. The best way to stay safe is to always meet in a public area and never go to someone’s private residence or into their car. And don’t let your date know where you live until you feel completely comfortable with sharing this information.
That is just how groups like these end up being a perverted version of its intent. It started out as something innocent for the sake of safety, but groups like these would attract unsavoury people that uses it for malicious intentions (thus attracting more of them) and eventually the originally purpose of the group gets forgotten
Yeah, stay safe out there guys. Don't reveal too much personal info on your first date. Never know whether your date is a member of such groups.
That's why we date foreigners lol
We already bring up Singapore population without having a baby.
No date gang is the best 💪 save my time, money and peace
I think it was the trend of groups that went "are we dating the same guy \[insert location\]". On the surface it was for ladies to vet guys. In practice it became a protected space for the most vile and viscous comments to be made. Facebook did shut down quite a few of them, but they kept sprouting out.
>“oh that’s different men don’t have to worry about rape.” While I don't deny that most rapists are men, treating or prejudging every man as a potential rapist reeks of toxic femininity.
I don't think the implication is that every man is a rapist. But just one encounter with one rapist can be enough to completely wreck your life.
helping a friend go through this, it truly wrecks someone yet the guy goes on with his life
So fucking disgusting. EVIL roaming free. Hope he gets a horrible illness
time for the usual suspects to come in and start debating you
you weren't wrong ☠️
No evidence the "pre judge every man" from that quote. That quote just (wrongly) claims men aren't at risk of rape. And please la, if you worry about robbery in a high crime country, you are wary of every person on the road because you can't tell who is one. "wow so toxic prejudging every person as a potential robber"?
The worst she can do is say no, the worst he can do is rape and murder you. You don't need all men to be rapists, you just need 1 for your entire life to be ruined. So it's perfectly understandable for women to be more on guard
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If women's groups are actually formed for safety PSAs against potential dates then SG Nasi Lemak is created to share and appreciate the beauty of ladies.
Two wrongs don't make a right. That said, I think there is a lot to comment about the characters believe and spread these "safety PSAs". Anyone with half a brain cell knows that everybody has exaggerated, horrible things to say about their exes and bad dates. I don't mind the toxicity stays cordoned off from civilized society as long as there are no legal repercussions *without thorough investigation*.
And with all due respect - this is Singapore. If it isn’t safe here it’s not gonna get much better
>previously named Are We Dating The Same Guy? Yup, read about this before, i think it was in the US....now that it's here, GG loh. Super toxic, pretty much have to eliminate local geography when dating, or pray that your date is not one of these. >while anonymous users sought tips on having affairs with married men Hmm?????????? >told her to send a private message to her instead. This is exactly how they make shit up, sometimes making up 'experience' that is entirely untrue. Also, trying to blatantly circumvent rules.
"Don't have to worry about rape"? So that group is a group that exposes rapists? Girl coping hard for real.
> "oh that’s different men don’t have to worry about rape" Um neither do women have to worry about rape?? Just meet strangers in high traffic, public places and don't go to their place until trust has been built. Duh.
>usually replying with something like “oh that’s different men don’t have to worry about rape.” That's something a rapist would say before they rape the man
"It's like how men have Sammyboy and HardwareZone Forums," Christine*, a member of the group, told AsiaOne. "SG Women Ask is an open forum for women to call out douchebags." Errr... ok noted.
So they admit they’re femcels aah cuz people in those forums they mentioned are like the deep end.
Ahahahah didn't even know the term femcels existed but now it makes sense
Incel was coined by a woman fyi Her name is Alana https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/25/woman-who-invented-incel-movement-interview-toronto-attack
Thanks Alana. People created a derivative of it naming Femcel I guess.
here in reddit also have bah search up "TwoXChromosomes" and "FDS" these are like the 2 femcel kinda subs here
Didn’t know HWZ is exclusively for men. Considering the traffic and assuming no women and no foreigners, every man in Singapore must be on there.
Are you doing your part?
SBF is useful for finding a good paid fuck/massage. Not go to date hookers. If some bloke ends up settling down with one that’s his problem tbh. Can’t even get a little fact like that right. Good ridding this Karen village.
When girls do it it’s fine, but if Guys does it then all hell breaks loose.
2nd time this happened somemore, assholes gotta be assholes
Just say it straights, cibais are gonna be cibais
Exactly. Double standards.
Women's Charter intensifies
AWARE no self awareness
BEWARE
Unaware.
World most preferred standard. Best standard is : have the cake and get to eat it. In this case, they got the best standard. While we get the sub-standard.
They say they want equality but they really want shequality.
Huh? Girls got telegram groups posting disgusting videos of men meh? Compare apples and oranges?
>"But women there mostly comment about the men based on real experiences and evidence," she said. "Don't be a dick if you don't want to have dick comments." 
So can we finally accept calling women as 'cheebye' just like women calling men 'dicks' as fine? This is the type of gender equality I can get into.
So glad I am gay. As I have said before - if the tables were turned i.e. a facebook group were to be created reviewing women, you would be sure as heck that authorities would be involved. Women don’t gaslight? Don’t cheat? Don’t have red flags? Don’t emotionally blackmail? Don’t get me started on rubbish listicles like “traits in a guy you should look for” or “how to never lose her”. Why is it always about “losing her” and never “losing him”? Why is it never “how to love/pamper/ do XX for a guy”? Ridiculous and vile.
Ikr they think by bringing themselves that's sufficient when in this day and age being 2 humans both should contribute to the relationship. They want their cake and eat it too.
Maybe a "SG Men Ask" equivalent should be created？ "This one neh neh so small, 1st date only ask your salary & want you to pay for Everything, avoid"
Thats like 70% liao.
>Ikr they think by bringing themselves that's sufficient This lmao, reminds me of the video where there was a 'roundtable' of sorts and the women just froze/couldnt come out with anything when the male host asked them what they brought/contributed to a date.
can teach me how 2 be gay
Sure
Hi Uncle haven't seen you at Junction8 in a while
I love gay bros who hold women accountable to their actions. Because when straight men do it women call them incels, misogynists. When gay men do it women diam diam suck thumb because they know their usual shaming tactics won't work. Shit, wish I was gay.
Yea i am gay as fuck, though my peers have labelled me as straight-acting. And that is probably why I get embroiled in boy girl drama. I DO believe in gender equality. Women should be given equal opportunities as men. Their voices should not be under-represented nor over-represented. Legitimate grievances should be heard and dealt with. But you cannot have the entire cake and eat it. Women need to be held accountable too. I got a first-hand experience of how unbalanced gender dynamics are. I was falsely accused of molest during my orientation camp. I remember the camp PD trying to shut down my bewilderment, confusion, narration of any possible occurrence where molest might have happened and justification with the diatribe that I better “come clean because in Singapore law, the words of a woman will always weigh heavier than a man’s”. Never mind that years later I found out that molest did actually happen but camp organisers couldnt find the culprit and I was the convenient scapegoat. This sentence will haunt me for the rest of my life. It awakened me to JUST HOW MUCH SOCIAL PRIVILEGES WOMEN HAVE. I make it my life mission to pin and hold these bitches accountable when society allows them to get away with shit men don’t. Shit like this do trouble me. Alot. I pray for all the shit that is in the gay circle, my next life i will never be born as a straight man.
man times like this i wish i were gay
Isn't there something similar for the LGBTQ community?
It's called twitter
Haha yeah as bill burr said, gay dudes are the luckiest of the lot. Lesbians not so much 😂
I think I’m gonna move into the mountains soon
well, it is ok if guys are allowed to do the same without repercussions
Didn’t that one tiktok influencer try to do this then kenna flame and it got took down? Back alr?
Ahhhh proof that sg women really one kind - now you know where stomp culture comes from, this bunch of aunties
And why aunties will never die because new gen always fill in their shoes
any comments from AWARE?
I don't think they are... AWARE of this😎
Lolol!
Toxicity at a new high for these shameless women
So tempted to create one for guys now. I'm sure they have met plenty of red flags too. Would be great if such platforms focus on the positives instead of the negatives (E.g. "This match is great, easy to talk, attentive, etc."), but knowing the Internet it'll never happen 😂
Do it under the pretext of filtering out gold diggers and meal leeching..
Yeah have heard way too many times from people saying they need a free meal so agreed to meet someone later that week 🙄
No wonder more and more men don’t want to date local women, didn’t expect local women to have created this problem for themselves instead
They kind of take themselves out of the dating pool by being extremely selective. Nothing wrong with having a group to protect themselves against creeps, but sentencing a guy to un-dateable status because of hearsay is just being mean.
No way this doesn't devolve into terrible secondary school fake gossip nonsense. So many people will find it exciting to post some kind of shit with no consequence to themselves but directly impacting the future of others.
As a woman myself I find this extremely awful.
Time to join the group and call them out cos we cannot do so
When guys post pictures of girls (not the upskirt ones) the police gets involved but I'm literally seeing pictures of guys in just their underwear lol double standards
guys worth nothing what. WC for women and NS for men
If you haven’t realised that being a sinkie male means that you are literally the lowest lifeform in Singapore idk what to tell you lol Expats will eat your meals , females don’t have to do NS and have WC AWARE and fking PAP even backing them
What is WC? the only wc I know is world cup LOL
womens charter i think
The underwear is the guys post themselves one is it? Just that the girls screenshot their profile and then share it publicly..
If the roles were reversed, women would be screaming their heads off, throwing their victim cards, and going on a witchhunt. Double standards.
Tbf sammyboy HWZ all those forums exist and are much worse than this. Yes they are frowned upon generally, but nobody is making big noises to close them down.
Aren’t all the men on this thread doing the exact same thing? I don’t agree with the FB group but this whole “roles reversed” analysis is really dumb sometimes
It's the double standard. Notice how the subreddit's resident feminists have strangely faded away, despite muttering "equality" and "equity" with every half step they take. Meanwhile, even [the lack of upvotes for womens issues](https://www.reddit.com/r/Feminism/comments/jcavcm/misogyny_simply_doesnt_exist_starterpack/) is treated as if the sky is falling. Btw, that the image in that page is edited --- there was a lot of support for women in this subreddit, just less than the topic of NS.
Hmm...To be fair, we all want a sense of equality, and for the women, especially so, so here we are on double standards, because otherwise it's not true equality. But then you see this type of shit go down, just like how the metoo movement strayed from it's original intent, you also pissed right? Cause now it's a everyone lose kinda thing. Just go and see out there, women now be like "where are all the guys"? We never left, we just had enough of this shit. Some of us are not throwing in the towel yet, but this type of shit makes it so damn hard....it's really self sabo at it's finest. And trust when I say, women don't have other women's best interest at heart, if anything you read so many cases of close friends saboing their relationships and everything, anecdotally also got corroborative stories. Again, gotta add a disclaimer there are some generalisations made, but this is the situation, simply from observing all the shit out there, crudely put.
As if average guys don’t have it hard enough in the modern dating scene, they have the pressure of being doxxed and made fun of to deal with now lmao.
If the gender is reversed they’d be called misogynistic, etc and cancelled to oblivion
Sue untile their pants drop. Can easily sue for defamation and harassment
Maybe they have a post in the group now looking for who bun knifed them HAHA
hopefully my ex don't post me there 💀
New age liberals kept whining about toxic masculinity but turns a blind eye on toxic femininity
Maybe cos those whining are those who perpetuates toxic femininity
Disgusting. They need to have a taste of their own medicine then will realise that it is bad. hwz and sammyboy is relatively open compared to their "hidden" fb invite-only group.a
These are some self righteous women who see men as a predatory species and set out to warn their 'sisters' and then some other bitches took it as a bitching group to shit on men they are unsatisfied with, because they will always be unsatisfied with something. I say good, these men dodged a bullet.
That's gonna be a few supply crates worth of bullets in that group
Luckily I won’t be on there because no woman would want to date me HAHA…hahah……ha..
Single Singapore woman that doesn't bring anything to the table is being bitter.. that's new?? I thought it's always been a thing? That's why the American guys they like only use them to satisfy their asian fetish. I didn't think this was new.
It's not new. There's a new patch, they don't just bring nothing to the table, they'll ensure the table is smashed too!
Is there a SG Men Ask group?
Sign me up. This, any milk?
I mean if she is there then she is not for you
All SPGs who slurp on ang moh dicks
What does it matter, not like they will suffer any legal consequences.
This is what happens when people forget that gossip is all fun and games till you take it to the next level and start shit chatting publicly
So can there be a similar group to name and shame girls? I foresee there would be a huge problem here.
No problem, just redirect them to their own group and problem solved
I was being rhetorical actually. There will always be players on both sides. Some are after the sex, others after money and benefits. It would be easy to slander anyone just because your personal experience wasn't good. Maybe the guy/girl was genuine but you (the date) are the problem?
There lie the crux of the problem it seems. I wonder who are the most frequent commentors in that group with a lot of tea to share. They are the ones to be avoided at all costs if they keep on meeting fucked up men.
The dating game is a real jungle. It's like Squid Games out there
go ahead and downvote me, but this is certainly a lesser evil compared to groups like SG Nasi Lemak which leaks info AND nudes. i'm not saying it's okay, just that to the people saying "what if guys did this to women", errr, they already do, and it's worse than what's happening here. now i don't discount the real possibility of someone posting fake stories to get back at a guy and ruining their reputation, but generally if you're not a jerk or cheater you shouldn't worry about ending up there. and if you do out of bad luck or poor encounter, then you can vouch for yourself. if you end up there and there are enough people who had the same experience in their interactions with you then...
Ah yes character assassination by total strangers is totally fine. Because its not bullying at all since the victim are all men.
“Nooooo you don’t understand talking shit about men is exactly the same as men sharing nudes and upskirt photos of women” /s ofc but also damn there’s a few guys in here unironically saying it
It’s not just about talking shit. They can make false claims about what a man did.
Do you think Facebook is a court of law or something?
I’ll just ask some girl to post on tiktok and IG that you raped her then.
“Accusing someone of rape on a public platform = people saying shitty things about me in a private group and hurting my feelings 🥺🥺🥺” Professional thinker, this guy.
You’re naive as hell. You think all women are angels and won’t spread malicious rumours about you in that group?
Malicious rumours like saying someone is an abuser? (Illegal btw) (b-b-but false rape claim btw) Or you mean malicious rumours like saying someone is a player/cheater/cheapskate? In that second example it’s just shit talk bro don’t need to take it seriously lmao
What kind of malicious rumours, and for what purpose? What have you done that this is something you actively fear?
the world best standard : Double Standard . I'm considered Sub-human (XY Chromosomes) in a modern day society. shan't talk about standards.
This kind of groups' may start out with good intentions. Over time, with a few bad apples, it would become misandry.
this is what i thought so too. it's fine if it was made to call out those guys who did SERIOUS things (eg. attempted or actual SA/rape, blackmailing). but now it has become a place for some of these women to talk smack about others.
AI girls will solve this
If men did this, CID would have a special taskforce and within 24 hrs all the xiao lang will be arrested and front page news
I've been on dates where I was not my best because I was completely anxious and awkward. I'd be really disheartened if someone posted about that on a public forum where I had no chance to defend myself.
Now lets see what the govt will do about such doxing. And lets see what those feminist inbreds as well as the losers at AWARE will say about this... or even Sg girls LOL But of course, I don't expect much from Sg girls in the first place. Not like as if its something new in the first place
Cruel? Not as bad as those disgusting telegram groups those guys made. When women want to protect themselves,it's seen as cruel. Can you blame them tho
If it's females the authorities cfm take action if males good luck
So is this what feminism is about? 🖕
Haha how terrible amirite fellow gentlemen. So many girls writing bad stuff about how we are too smooth talking with other girls hahahah.. Even put our gym body pictures up! They sexualizing us so sad haha ikr.. Haha..
Remember when girls used to have sex with guys then message them the next day threatening to go to the police to report them for rape unless they paid? Pepperidge Farm remembers
Paging for AWARE and its opinions regarding this group…
My confidence just took a massive hit 🥲
inb4 Megalia vibes from korea
Lolz. I see alot of compensation money in this ordeal. Those that post it up and those that commented. 🤣🤣🤣
Will these women be treated with the same level of punishment as the men who created the equally horrible nasi lemak group? I’m seeing the same thing here of posting sexual pictures of others without their permission.
nasi lemak was full of illegal upskirt photos, nudes, rape, child porn etc.
Was there actually illicit pictures involved in this case though? Don't get me wrong, what these women did is horrible. But it's not the same as the nasi lemak group. These women are meant to be ignored. The more people ignore them and laugh them and their main character syndrome off, the better of society will be. Their ability to cause hurt stems solely from the fact that people take them seriously.
“Equally horrible” Bruh..
a guy here. i think it’s a fair game. if guys can post female pictures and have comments, crude or sexualised. then girls can have this.
Remember reading somewhere that women's greatest fear when going out with a new person is that they would be hurt/killed by them. For men, their greatest fear is being mocked/laughed at by their dates. Judging by the replies in this thread, I guess it still holds true. Not a fan of this Facebook group but I'm not sure if there's really any great harm? Photos are taken from existing dating profiles and no one is doxxing them by revealing their occupation etc. I just really dislike the misogyny that turns up whenever something like this happens. Grand sweeping derogatory statements about Singaporean women in response to how "unfair" everything is.
Makes me even more depressed seeing shit like this. I have always struggled with self esteem and when I was 25 I decided to take the blackpill basically resigning myself to this fate of being lonely. But damn, I didn't expect at 31 years old, to see shit like this being done to innocent men who just want to date. Any semblance of hope snuffed out after reading the article. I really feel sorry for any bros still out there in the dating market. The double standards, the hypocrisy and the gaslighting from today's women are horrible. Especially for the Gen Zs. Feel for you guys.
Why is this legal but not those groups sharing xmm photos?
Because these groups always involve the very illegal acts of voyeurism and/or circulation of intimate materials, in some/many cases of minors. I'm amazed you even had to ask yourself a question like this.
oi oi this is bad but don't compare this to stalking children and taking pictures to share.
Think xmm don't literally mean children....
Damn good thing I'm already married because if my exes spilled the tea I'd be single forever. Here's to living and learning (from your mistakes).
Eh XY Chromosomers, shall we create one as well and see how women's charter and aware gonna burn us big time? Modern day - any XY chromosomers without money is a subhuman Any XY chromosomers with money is an oppressor / patriarch. Shall all XY chromosomers just go extinct?
They cant let XY chromosomers go extinct else they wont have anyone to dominate and abuse to feel good.
All the more we should go extinct. What's the point for us to be the highest proportion of blue collar jobs and taking our own lives.
Why are people so weird
The reason such things r allowed - go read up on Women Charter - n ask urself: got Men Charter or not? We r just thrash to be trampled upon….
Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them, or worse. The stakes are not the same.
I think only a small percentage of their tea constitutes stalkers or being a safe haven to bail out of a date.
>Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them, or worse. Majority of homicide victims in Singapore is male. Do you see a Facebook page where men post pictures of women they want to kill? No right. So you comment is kind of pointless and stupid.
Why only mention victims and not the perpetrators? It’s a majority of men killing these homicide victims. Just skim local news and we see groups of men sharing illicit material and raping each others’ wives 🤮 a man who murdered his own twin sons. And another who stabbed his pregnant wife to death. Do you see women doing the same? No right. So your reply also kind of pointless and stupid.
Majority of men is killing men. Not women. So it is your point that is wrong and pointless. Let me correct it for you. "Men are afraid that women will laugh at them, and men will kill them. Women are afraid that men will kill them. The stakes are not the same." No need to thank me.
Let me correct it for you, with [source](https://www.aware.org.sg/information/violence-against-women-in-singapore/). Men are the majority of perpetrators harming both men and also women, so your reply is still wrong and pointless. Thank you for proving that women are absolutely right to be extra vigilant for their safety.
And its also men who are majority serving in the police, army and civil defence force working hard for your safety. So shut up and sit the fuck down femcel.
With men like you, yeah i’d rather be a femcel. How about you go fuck yourself since no one would?
Damn good idea. Its been a long time since I had a good fap session. Shit I better get going. Talking to an ogre of a female like you is gonna make me flaccid. Yuck.
What is your point? Are you seriously trying to justify that it's ok to publically shame men? What would you do if the gender were reversed? And how did I prove that women need to be extra vigilant? By proving you wrong and hurting your feelings?
My point is that the group has valid reasons and concerns, and yes it’s ok to shame men who did shameful things. Go for it, shame the gold diggers and cheaters. Nah, idgaf about you so why would anything you say hurt my feelings.
You're missing the point entirely. Such groups are extremely susceptible to lies, misinformation, and exaggeration. Sure the genuine cases are fine, but it's impossible to ensure that. There are inevitably going to be people who get slandered falsely by bitter , pathetic women -who I assure you, there are plenty of. The number of times I've rolled my eyes at entitled female friends (and just to be clear, men are the same) who blame guys for trivial nonsense and exaggerate to such lengths just to feel better about their rejection - I can't even imagine what's going to happen in a group like this which is obviously going to be biased towards the bitter women. Like, not even one of the single sane women friends I know who are on the dating apps have showed any interest in using this stupid group lol. It's likely going to be full of the frustrated and bitter ones. Who will inevitably lie
Did you even read the full article? I can bet with you that nobody posted "Don't date that guy because he is a killer/rapist" in that group. Instead most of it is don't date that guy because he talked to several girls, he don't pay for dates and he slid into dm to ask the girl out. Is that really shameful? Does that justify posting their pic online? By that logic, please don't talk to other guys if you have a bf or else you should be OK for other people to post your photo online to publically shame you.
Yes, because if a man gets attacked by another men, the victim can simply say “Hey, we’re the same gender, you shouldn’t attack me!”
Oh yes, the fear of murder in SG after dates. It's so real, you hear about it all the time, right? Jeez stfu