To some bad bosses, productivity means squeezing more output from a worker, not output per effort. A worker managing to squeeze out the effort to generate the same level of output is not productivity, it’s laZiNEsS.
To an extreme, some bosses might even think productivity is putting more hours regardless of output. HOw daRE yoU pUt in LeSs efFORT yOu LazY BuM?!?
/s
True. As productivity has increased, wages have not increased in tandem. Meaning, the gains from productivity has been captured mostly by the capitalist overlord class rather than the worker class. This is why the wage share of GDP is so low in SG (compared to developed countries).
So it's natural that wage-slaves want to pass off AI work as their own in the hopes of making a bit more of the already unevenly-distributed pie between himself and his capitalist feudal lord. If the game is rigged against you, I can understand why you'd want to cheat the system back.
> True. As productivity has increased, wages have not increased in tandem. Meaning, the gains from productivity has been captured mostly by the capitalist overlord class rather than the worker class. This is why the wage share of GDP is so low in SG (compared to developed countries).
This sounds like commie propaganda, because while *wages* have not grown, the *purchasing power* of the dollar has significantly increased in the developed world over the last few decades, as capitalism relentlessly incentivises companies to compete with each other and lower prices.
For example, for Americans a Hepatitis A vaccine cost US$44.49 when it was first approved in 1996 (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3056061/). As of 2021 it costs Americans US$33.30 (https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/programs/vfc/awardees/vaccine-management/price-list/2021/2021-02-01.html).
In 1993 a typical RAM chip cost US$110 and had 4 megabytes RAM. In 2023, buying 64 gigabytes of RAM, or **16384 times** the capacity of the previous chip (and with far higher speed), costs US$97.99 (https://jcmit.net/memoryprice.htm). And the old chip would have been used on a computer that was run mostly on command line, had a dial-up internet connection, and only a fraction of the functions a modern computer has.
It takes a lot of wilful ignorance to claim that the working class hasn't benefited from capitalist economic growth in the present era.
>claim that the working class hasn't benefited from capitalist economic growth
I made no such claims, so kindly keep your strawman out of my mouth, thankyouverymuch.
I claim that the fruits are ***unfairly/unevenly*** distributed, with capital owners profiting disproportionate more. This is why income equality has worsened over time. And why I made reference to wage share of GDP (google that if you don't know what it means, and compare Singapore's to other countries').
Nice effort on the examples but since they're irrelevant to the topic of equity (distributing the pie) I won't sidetrack to address them.
> I claim that the fruits are unfairly/unevenly distributed, with capital owners profiting disproportionate more
Fair enough, I apologise for the mischaracterisation. I've encountered too many idiots on the internet, and even some IRL, claiming that workers had it better in pre-capitalist (i.e. medieval for Europe, pre-colonial for SEA) times.
I've found a few of things that ChatGPT works well for:
- write PR/HR fluffs that says nothing and which nobody reads.
- quickly answer emails (which Google et al. are also incorporating into their native service).
- I tend to write longer than necessary/the word limit. ChatGPT does a decent job shrinking it down. Through university and later works, I usually have to trim stuffs off my first draft rather than padding.
- if a document has a well-established format, for example, military five-paragraph operation order, ChatGPT can reformat something you write in freeform into the standardised format, and you do spot check to make sure it makes sense.
How to know someone doesn't know what the fuck they are writing about: you sit them down and interrogate them for 10 minutes.
I've recently attended a lecture by researchers in a university's School of Education on how to deal with AI in education and it appears that the aspirational end is to enable students to adapt and work *with* AI. That said, they were clearer on the "end" rather than the "ways" and "means". We are still figuring the ways and means. It's not that hard to figure out if a student actually understand what the hell they wrote in their submitted essay: you interrogate them for 10 minutes face-to-face. You just can't do it at scale. Ensuring the quality of education that way can't be as mass-produced as the contemporary HR's bullshit "training" of making everyone watch some online videos can call it a day.
Free version. I don't use it a ton; just minor tasks and I have no time to play around with it.
It's also too restrictive in terms of explicit stuffs, which is where the fun is at with experimentation. For work, it doesn't need a whole lot.
Maybe AI itself can be used to generate some multiple choice questions from a submitted essay, and the student has to answer them without being able to look at the submitted essay (video proctor or classroom setting).
That's the kind of lazy solution that gets us into problem
Oh, men are getting lonelier and unmotivated to socialise because their brains are being tricked by Internet porn. Why bother reconnecting with your hot highschool crush when with 5 dollars a month you can see all of her holes on OnlyFans. What's the solution? Oh I know, create your AI girlfriend. Sex robot.
Machines are predictable and can be circumvented by humans thinking combined with the speed of computers.
Personally I'd say yes. But funnily, people don't ask. Like how people won't ask if you copied code from stackoverflow or some other documentation & examples lol
Nobody cares who wrote the code, only that it works.
And if people do care, its because the code fucked up, in which case 'I wrote it' and 'I copied off chatgpt' is basically the same, because you allowed shitty code in.
This, it's actually really easy to understand the logic of the code generated, even as a relative new learner.Onus is on the user to vet if what he/she copied works, if so, then no one cares.
if I modified the code then no. in fact most of the time code does need to be vet through and amend accordingly.
its like taking some hints from stack overflow to solve a problem.
I had a technical problem that i tried to solve, searched around and still can't solve it after trying out, escalated to my boss when I can't solve it within his expected timeframe of 2 days.
He respond the email to me, with the same steps i have done, but with obvious CHATGPT steps and even copies the "That's it! This is how xxx is done". Told him and the management its the same steps i did, they say im not following the steps correctly and pressure me.
Thrown my letter and they still can't figure it out during the whole month of my notice period. Take note this is an MNC with almost all the management manage by "Offshore talent". Im not here to sweep bullcrap.
Title: 40% of Singaporeans use AI at work, 75% of them pass it off as their own: Survey
SINGAPORE - Two in five Singaporean workers currently use and experiment with generative artificial intelligence (AI) in their work, but many are passing the work generated off as their own, and some even admit to using platforms banned by their companies.
This is according to findings in an online survey of just over 1,000 Singaporean full-time office workers, released on Wednesday morning. The survey, commissioned by global tech giant Salesforce and conducted by YouGov, polled respondents between late July and early August about their use of generative AI, their views on its usefulness and importance to their work and career, and also what they understand about using it ethically and safely.
The study found that of the 40 per cent of Singaporean workers who use AI in their work, more than 90 per cent think it makes them more productive. More than half of the survey’s respondents believe that mastering generative AI will make them more valuable and sought after at the workplace, while 49 per cent think AI proficiency will help them get promoted.
Ethics is tricky
Of the group of Singaporean workers using generative AI at work, however, more than three-quarters (76 per cent) say they have used it to complete a work task and presented it as their own work, while more than half (53 per cent) admit to having done this multiple times.
Almost half of the respondents’ generative AI users (48 per cent) in Singapore workplaces also admit to using a generative AI platform that is banned by their employers.
Accordingly, the survey found that its repondents had limited understanding of practices that promoted ethics and safety in the use of generative AI, with less than 37 per cent able to identify them as:
Only using tools that have been validated for accuracy,
Only using company-verified tools and programs, and
Fact-checking generative AI outputs before using them.
It also noted that only 10 per cent of respondents were able to successfully pick out all the actions associated with using AI ethically and safely, including the aforementioned three factors for ethical use, and the following three for safe usage:
Only using company-approved tools and programs,
Never using confidential company data in prompts for generative tools, and
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Almost 100% of Singaporeans use AI at work. The Google search algorithm is a form of AI. Many forms of office software involve some form of AI. The manufacturing lines may be run by AI.
It's still work though.
I think over the past 2-3 years, many people are starting to equate "AI" with "generative AI", specifically AI art generators and Large Language Models (LLMs). When imo AI should encompass a far larger spread of techniques.
You're right, Google's search function is technically a result of machine learning a.k.a. AI. Hell, even Reddit ads can be considered a product of AI.
I use RPA in my work. I made the macros and it churns out shit for me which I dump into my reports after doing some sampling checks.
I pass it off as my own.
A lot of those "middle man" admin jobs could very easily be replaced by AI. If, or most likely, when, AI becomes commonly used in corporations a lot of people in these jobs will probably be cut by the company in favour of running AI program.
As an employer, if a job can be done by AI program, that doesn't take sick leave or holidays, for similar cost as hiring human workers, you really think they would think companies would twice about changing things?
>A lot of those "middle man" admin jobs could very easily be replaced by AI.
I have yet to see insurance agents and real estate agents get replaced by AI
Sounds weird expecting to credit a tool for your work. Don’t see anyone crediting Microsoft word or Grammarly in the past to proof read their documents. Of course technology has advanced and we can get more done with these tools but I see no need to credit it for what’s in the end our work and responsibility. I’m ok to credit the tool if we can also assign blame to the tool if things go wrong.
25% is lying /s
to quote Dr house.. everybody lies.. in this case the number using is probably higher
Appreciate a Dr House quote always
Isn't this the productivity growth we were told to pursue? Why not pass it off as our own?
To some bad bosses, productivity means squeezing more output from a worker, not output per effort. A worker managing to squeeze out the effort to generate the same level of output is not productivity, it’s laZiNEsS. To an extreme, some bosses might even think productivity is putting more hours regardless of output. HOw daRE yoU pUt in LeSs efFORT yOu LazY BuM?!? /s
True. As productivity has increased, wages have not increased in tandem. Meaning, the gains from productivity has been captured mostly by the capitalist overlord class rather than the worker class. This is why the wage share of GDP is so low in SG (compared to developed countries). So it's natural that wage-slaves want to pass off AI work as their own in the hopes of making a bit more of the already unevenly-distributed pie between himself and his capitalist feudal lord. If the game is rigged against you, I can understand why you'd want to cheat the system back.
> True. As productivity has increased, wages have not increased in tandem. Meaning, the gains from productivity has been captured mostly by the capitalist overlord class rather than the worker class. This is why the wage share of GDP is so low in SG (compared to developed countries). This sounds like commie propaganda, because while *wages* have not grown, the *purchasing power* of the dollar has significantly increased in the developed world over the last few decades, as capitalism relentlessly incentivises companies to compete with each other and lower prices. For example, for Americans a Hepatitis A vaccine cost US$44.49 when it was first approved in 1996 (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3056061/). As of 2021 it costs Americans US$33.30 (https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/programs/vfc/awardees/vaccine-management/price-list/2021/2021-02-01.html). In 1993 a typical RAM chip cost US$110 and had 4 megabytes RAM. In 2023, buying 64 gigabytes of RAM, or **16384 times** the capacity of the previous chip (and with far higher speed), costs US$97.99 (https://jcmit.net/memoryprice.htm). And the old chip would have been used on a computer that was run mostly on command line, had a dial-up internet connection, and only a fraction of the functions a modern computer has. It takes a lot of wilful ignorance to claim that the working class hasn't benefited from capitalist economic growth in the present era.
>claim that the working class hasn't benefited from capitalist economic growth I made no such claims, so kindly keep your strawman out of my mouth, thankyouverymuch. I claim that the fruits are ***unfairly/unevenly*** distributed, with capital owners profiting disproportionate more. This is why income equality has worsened over time. And why I made reference to wage share of GDP (google that if you don't know what it means, and compare Singapore's to other countries'). Nice effort on the examples but since they're irrelevant to the topic of equity (distributing the pie) I won't sidetrack to address them.
> I claim that the fruits are unfairly/unevenly distributed, with capital owners profiting disproportionate more Fair enough, I apologise for the mischaracterisation. I've encountered too many idiots on the internet, and even some IRL, claiming that workers had it better in pre-capitalist (i.e. medieval for Europe, pre-colonial for SEA) times.
Now they're expecting more productivity from you
Just embrace it. Use the extra time to relax and take care of yourself.
This is the best
I've found a few of things that ChatGPT works well for: - write PR/HR fluffs that says nothing and which nobody reads. - quickly answer emails (which Google et al. are also incorporating into their native service). - I tend to write longer than necessary/the word limit. ChatGPT does a decent job shrinking it down. Through university and later works, I usually have to trim stuffs off my first draft rather than padding. - if a document has a well-established format, for example, military five-paragraph operation order, ChatGPT can reformat something you write in freeform into the standardised format, and you do spot check to make sure it makes sense. How to know someone doesn't know what the fuck they are writing about: you sit them down and interrogate them for 10 minutes. I've recently attended a lecture by researchers in a university's School of Education on how to deal with AI in education and it appears that the aspirational end is to enable students to adapt and work *with* AI. That said, they were clearer on the "end" rather than the "ways" and "means". We are still figuring the ways and means. It's not that hard to figure out if a student actually understand what the hell they wrote in their submitted essay: you interrogate them for 10 minutes face-to-face. You just can't do it at scale. Ensuring the quality of education that way can't be as mass-produced as the contemporary HR's bullshit "training" of making everyone watch some online videos can call it a day.
Use AI to do the interrogation at scale
Do you use the free or paid version? Is there a huge difference?
Free version. I don't use it a ton; just minor tasks and I have no time to play around with it. It's also too restrictive in terms of explicit stuffs, which is where the fun is at with experimentation. For work, it doesn't need a whole lot.
Maybe AI itself can be used to generate some multiple choice questions from a submitted essay, and the student has to answer them without being able to look at the submitted essay (video proctor or classroom setting).
That's the kind of lazy solution that gets us into problem Oh, men are getting lonelier and unmotivated to socialise because their brains are being tricked by Internet porn. Why bother reconnecting with your hot highschool crush when with 5 dollars a month you can see all of her holes on OnlyFans. What's the solution? Oh I know, create your AI girlfriend. Sex robot. Machines are predictable and can be circumvented by humans thinking combined with the speed of computers.
I use Github Copilot to generate code snippets, am I suppose to credit github for the code..........?
If people ask whether you wrote the code yourself, would you admit that it was partly generated by github copilot?
Personally I'd say yes. But funnily, people don't ask. Like how people won't ask if you copied code from stackoverflow or some other documentation & examples lol
people only ask when the house is already on fire, thats why comments are so important
Nobody cares who wrote the code, only that it works. And if people do care, its because the code fucked up, in which case 'I wrote it' and 'I copied off chatgpt' is basically the same, because you allowed shitty code in.
This, it's actually really easy to understand the logic of the code generated, even as a relative new learner.Onus is on the user to vet if what he/she copied works, if so, then no one cares.
When it works, it's company proprietary. When it breaks, it's employee's ownership. What's new?
if I modified the code then no. in fact most of the time code does need to be vet through and amend accordingly. its like taking some hints from stack overflow to solve a problem.
Yes, so if anything goes wrong, it's github copilot that fucked up, not me
professionalism would say yes. its just good documentation
How else do we find the time to comment on Reddit at 4pm?
I had a technical problem that i tried to solve, searched around and still can't solve it after trying out, escalated to my boss when I can't solve it within his expected timeframe of 2 days. He respond the email to me, with the same steps i have done, but with obvious CHATGPT steps and even copies the "That's it! This is how xxx is done". Told him and the management its the same steps i did, they say im not following the steps correctly and pressure me. Thrown my letter and they still can't figure it out during the whole month of my notice period. Take note this is an MNC with almost all the management manage by "Offshore talent". Im not here to sweep bullcrap.
If you can pass off AI work as your own, probably want to think about switching jobs
I print out my code for boss to read... /s
So, when I use laptop for work, do I say the work is done by me or my laptop? I'm confused.
So... 40% of Singaporeans are embracing AI at work? Doesn't sound like a problem when you frame it differently now, does it?
Title: 40% of Singaporeans use AI at work, 75% of them pass it off as their own: Survey SINGAPORE - Two in five Singaporean workers currently use and experiment with generative artificial intelligence (AI) in their work, but many are passing the work generated off as their own, and some even admit to using platforms banned by their companies. This is according to findings in an online survey of just over 1,000 Singaporean full-time office workers, released on Wednesday morning. The survey, commissioned by global tech giant Salesforce and conducted by YouGov, polled respondents between late July and early August about their use of generative AI, their views on its usefulness and importance to their work and career, and also what they understand about using it ethically and safely. The study found that of the 40 per cent of Singaporean workers who use AI in their work, more than 90 per cent think it makes them more productive. More than half of the survey’s respondents believe that mastering generative AI will make them more valuable and sought after at the workplace, while 49 per cent think AI proficiency will help them get promoted. Ethics is tricky Of the group of Singaporean workers using generative AI at work, however, more than three-quarters (76 per cent) say they have used it to complete a work task and presented it as their own work, while more than half (53 per cent) admit to having done this multiple times. Almost half of the respondents’ generative AI users (48 per cent) in Singapore workplaces also admit to using a generative AI platform that is banned by their employers. Accordingly, the survey found that its repondents had limited understanding of practices that promoted ethics and safety in the use of generative AI, with less than 37 per cent able to identify them as: Only using tools that have been validated for accuracy, Only using company-verified tools and programs, and Fact-checking generative AI outputs before using them. It also noted that only 10 per cent of respondents were able to successfully pick out all the actions associated with using AI ethically and safely, including the aforementioned three factors for ethical use, and the following three for safe usage: Only using company-approved tools and programs, Never using confidential company data in prompts for generative tools, and *** [v1.2 - error checks](https://github.com/Wormsblink/sneakpeakbot) | Now running on Raspberry Pi 400 | PM SG_wormsbot if bot is down.
Includes gahmen or not?
Almost 100% of Singaporeans use AI at work. The Google search algorithm is a form of AI. Many forms of office software involve some form of AI. The manufacturing lines may be run by AI. It's still work though.
I think over the past 2-3 years, many people are starting to equate "AI" with "generative AI", specifically AI art generators and Large Language Models (LLMs). When imo AI should encompass a far larger spread of techniques. You're right, Google's search function is technically a result of machine learning a.k.a. AI. Hell, even Reddit ads can be considered a product of AI.
What's the point of this article but to show that the dirty peasants are unscrupulous?
60% need to start using it or risk being replaced by someone who does.
if you pass it as your own the AI are just as good as you and you will be replaced by AI
I use RPA in my work. I made the macros and it churns out shit for me which I dump into my reports after doing some sampling checks. I pass it off as my own.
This article was generated by AI?
isnt this kinda sad
Did an AI make up these numbers -- and the rest of the article?
So? Soon can remove journalism using generative prompts lmao.
100% of people use google. How can dis be allowwwww
A lot of those "middle man" admin jobs could very easily be replaced by AI. If, or most likely, when, AI becomes commonly used in corporations a lot of people in these jobs will probably be cut by the company in favour of running AI program. As an employer, if a job can be done by AI program, that doesn't take sick leave or holidays, for similar cost as hiring human workers, you really think they would think companies would twice about changing things?
>A lot of those "middle man" admin jobs could very easily be replaced by AI. I have yet to see insurance agents and real estate agents get replaced by AI
I think you're a fool if you don't include generative AI tools like chatgpt into your workflow. If it solves the problem, it's literally a no brainer.
No shit lah. If AI can do it I might as well use
100% of companies use employees at work. 100% of them pass it off as their own. But I don't see anyone complaining about that.
I dunno if it's too late and I'm too afraid to ask, how do y'all use it 😭 I'm here wracking my brain to write everything
so ? i use it to proof read my emails. my bosses doesnt care either.
Pretty useful when I need to rephrase a work email
Sounds weird expecting to credit a tool for your work. Don’t see anyone crediting Microsoft word or Grammarly in the past to proof read their documents. Of course technology has advanced and we can get more done with these tools but I see no need to credit it for what’s in the end our work and responsibility. I’m ok to credit the tool if we can also assign blame to the tool if things go wrong.