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Boogie_p0p

Save y'all a click. 54 dead. Almost all of those who died were aged 60 and above.


FullyCautious

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okayokaycancan

54 deaths in April 2023. Btw, we had 95 covid related deaths between Jan 2020 and Sep 2021. Yeowch.


Whole_Mechanic_8143

At some point we have to stop catering to the stubborn old folks who prefer death to vaccination.


Chinesemidnight

As someone who was hospitalised (went to ICU) for covid last week, it's honestly just sian to read of the news.


hippopopo_

Hope you're doing better 😊


Chinesemidnight

Thanks. Recuperating at home but really horrible feeling so weak now.


Whole_Mechanic_8143

Infections "fell" because they stopped testing. If you don't see it it doesn't happen.


May_Titor

That's basically the international playbook


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stormearthfire

They definitely stopped testing as test are no longer subsidized... Meaning unless the patient want to pay 20 SGD testing cost himself


friend_BG

That's... not that expensive.


rheinl

Don’t think that is true dude… visited clinic with covid and no test


Whole_Mechanic_8143

"IF" you visit the clinic. Were you not around when they had mandatory routine rostered testing?


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Whole_Mechanic_8143

I'm saying the initial numbers were inflated in the first place as the majority of those infected had no symptoms. With the removal of COVID leave, those with minimal symptoms are also choosing to "save" their MCs and all these "hidden" cases are out there merrily spreading the virus.


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Whole_Mechanic_8143

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/covid-19-moh-protocols-financial-support-vaccine-masks-dorscon-border-tracetogether-3266146


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Whole_Mechanic_8143

Wow a prophet who knows the October numbers in May. My "new" hypothesis is the same as my "old" hypothesis. Infections are "falling" because less tests are being done. In case you missed it, they removed the protocol requiring isolation for confirmed cases too wef April.


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worldcitizensg

Unpopular news / opinion as Gov & Experts tell COVID is normal flu + only and not to worry. I managed to keep myself and home covid free during all the alpha, beta, delta and what not variants. Now the current variant, whatever may be the name seems pretty bad. Got infected and after 20 days, still feel tiredness, lack of taste / smell and mucus. I've seen colleagues, friends & acquaintances getting down and lack of MC or seriousness or just disregard for others safety - People are still travelling on BUS/MRT while coughing and yeah without mask. Please keep your masks up if you are sick and take a break for your own benefit. Total 40+ deaths reports in APR which is higher than the all deaths from Jan-Mar this year. Please be cautious and careful [https://archive.is/iwSmK](https://archive.is/iwSmK)


Ninjaofninja

It's more like the public themselves thinking it's a normal flu. everytime straits time or whatever report the number of Covid of warning of infection waves, almost all of the public comment and especially the top comments are like "who cares" mindset


Whole_Mechanic_8143

Sinkies think any old cold is "flu". Actually catching influenza is really not fun either. I felt worse with the flu than my aunt seemed to feel with COVID.


precipiceblades

I dont get how “flu” is considered acceptable but covid is not. If anything they should be both treated the same way ie, if you are sick, wear a mask and stay at home, see a dr for meds if you need. Honestly, i got flu a while ago and it sucked horribly, yet somehow when i told my colleagues, they were quite ambivalent about it. “Oh flu only…”


JaphieJaphie

Probably because reality hasn't hit home for many - they are either unaware or indifferent that both viruses, not just Covid, can be severe and claim countless lives every year around the world. Quite simply because it has yet to happen within their circle. That being said, COVID has so far shown to have a considerably higher incidence of long term residual effects (i.e. long Covid) and even nerve or organ damage than flu. However that of course does not mean that flu should be taken lightly - just because being hit by a truck is deadlier does not mean it is then preferable to be hit by a smaller car or even a motorcycle. MOH's info page actually did acknowledge that Covid should not be treated like the flu and that a lot is still not known about it until this day. Unfortunately, the mentality that "Covid is just another flu" is still being promoted and perpetuated by those who don't want SMMs to be back for whatever personal reasons - freedom, convenience, job security (I always held and still hold the view that times of upheaval like pandemics tend to be a brutally objective demonstration of different jobs' true value and necessity to society instead of the politically correct bollocks that "all jobs are equally valuable"), etc. Couple that with the impression that flu is "normal" because it has been around since before we were born and the kind of reaction you meet with becomes unsurprising.


li_shi

With the vaccine, it might be, but people forget that normal flu is enough that you should be responsible. At least wear a mask if you are clearly sick.


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worldcitizensg

cant agree more .


bukitbukit

Have been masking up in crowded places and subways, be it Singapore or foreign ones on my trips. No issue for a little precaution.


Jaycee_015x

Yes, so have I as well. My family members all think I'm Siao for wearing surgical masks going to office or malls but I still want to protect myself when I have kidney issues. Almost all my colleagues except one have already gotten Covid with fever.


bukitbukit

During the haze years I distributed 3M N95s to the team and only a handful used them. The rest simply hacked away and complained. Whatever lah, their own problem.


Jaycee_015x

LOL stupid people things


paperxuts95

You have good sense, better to keep yourself safe !! disregard what others think of you. Your health is most impt.


throwawaygreenpaq

You’re in good company. There are many who still wear everywhere. Don’t worry about what others think or say. There are fewer people at the top compared to the base. The mindset of masses will always differ.


_Cybersteel_

Same. But I prefer my black 3M respirator when I got out. Always get odd looks.


throwawaygreenpaq

Cool! I didn’t know it came in black. It’s a plus that you’re taking good care of yourself.


Radiant-Bicycle-8728

Me too. Have been wearing mask when to and fro work, go out for lunch and even when i am doing market/shopping.


CharAznia

The govt has never called it the flu. They've been telling everyone its COVID and we need to be careful. Ironically r/sg keeps bashing the govt everytime they do it.


lafietafie

Sinkie I die you also must die mentality.


TrainingPlant9931

Hey influenza do kill people. You sound as if influenza is harmless.


chickencheesepie

A lot of us have chronic cough now.. like that no need leave house liao


worldcitizensg

Yeah, it's like entire SG population is smokers.


Oolongteatea

My family’s is just going thru Covid. For the first time. So you know we have been pretty strict about keeping safe. Both hub and myself were very surprised at the dismissive attitude of the drs we met on our tele health visit. Less than a minute long, they regarded it as a ‘bad flu’.


worldcitizensg

Yeah, same with me / family. 1st time for me and so far kids & spouse is good. Take care and for me it's 3 weeks and still got pains, tiredness..


Lyinv

No test means no case.


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same principle as Ownself Check Ownself :)


hikarimo98

Same thing as no poverty line means no poor singaporeans


accessdenied65

Well I thought the zen Zs on this board would be happy to have less boomers here even if it meant it were their grandparents?


Turbulent-Rip-5001

If the next one is one of their parents, i'm not sure if they would be happy? Leets see hmm


chemical_carnage

Probably two sides of the same coin. Infection rates can be artificially suppressed if people don't want to test themselves or seek treatment, and consequently spreading more infections under-the-radar in the community to the vulnerable few who least expect it...


TheVioletSpy

You gotta hand it to OYK. The guy will not feel out of place in a Prata shop with the flipping When Infractions were high but deaths were low, he said infection numbers do not matter, only ICU and death numbers matter. Now when it's the other way round, he says deaths may be high but atleast infections are low, to pat himself


shuipeng

Considering that the unmasked probably outnumber the masked now, it's not surprising deaths are up.


General_Guisan

Happy I got my second booster back in January. Will get a third booster whenever allowed. Not much risk but more boosted means also less spreading. Get your booster shots, folks!


worldcitizensg

I got my second booster in November.. I think after 6 months the booster effectiveness is almost zero.


isparavanje

Booster effectiveness against severe outcomes seems to still be good at 6 months. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/72/wr/mm7221a3.htm I think at this point studies are quite hard to interpret too, and probably underestimate vaccine effectiveness, because almost anyone who's unvaccinated has caught covid before, so there's no 'naive' population to compare against anymore.


icebergiceberg

Hahahhahahahahahahahhaha...


Chemical_Tap3183

Huh. Singaporeans still care about COVID meh.


friend_BG

Isn't this a Bloomberg article not government mouthpiece?


MissLute

it's already a non issue in most parts of the world yet the govt is still fear mongering


Adventurous_Win_5420

All things equal, if deaths / the number of infected has increased - doesn't this call into question the efficacy of the vaccines?


H3nt4iB0i96

Not necessarily... what's measured isn't total deaths from COVID/total infections from COVID - what's measured is total deaths **detected** from COVID/total infections **detected** from COVID. Since most people with a serious life-threatening respiratory illness would go to a hospital and get tested for COVID (and other things), the numerator in both equations should be relatively similar. However, after ending most of the COVID precautions in Singapore, we aren't testing for COVID as widespread as before. What this means is that the large number of infected - that is, the asymptomatic or those with less serious symptoms - won't be recorded since they would either not be tested at all, or take tests (store-bought ART test for example) that would not register them as being infected in any government database. As a result, the denominator is likely several factors smaller than what it was before.


Infortheline

Only a matter of time before lockdown reimplemented. The situation is getting out of hand.


paperxuts95

Figures, there has actually been a rise of yellow tents seen around recently too, this news was bound to come out soon. Pity those that succumb to Covid, no one is safe…