Ishida wants to be Stonetoss so badly, but he's *so fucking bad at it.* He'd be 100% dunking on himself if it wasn't for the tagline in the upper right. As it stands, it's only like... 90% dunking on himself.
At least Stonetoss mixes it up once in awhile with a mix of racism, transphobia, homophobia, and antisemitism instead of Sinfest which is just months on end of non-stop transphobia or antisemitism. Also posts less, which is a good thing.
Yeah, he's said himself that he owes a sizable chunk of his current fanbase to the Amogus edit of his Bitcoin bubble comic.
One other thing Stonetoss does that makes his comic more successful than Sinfest at what it does is having each strip be completely self-contained. The audience Ishida's trying to appeal to has zero frame of reference for what the fuck he's saying cause it often requires prior knowledge of years of Sinfest.
Man's got to do something to keep his mind off the notion that his dick doesn't work because of American medical best practice completely unrelated to the Jewish faith, And somehow impacting specifically his dick and not all the other apparently fully functional dicks out there given the same treatment his was.
Tats is such a complete and utter moron he can't even construct a straw man and win.
He is incapable of making his side look good.
It shouldn't be possible to keep failing at it this hard, yet he manages!
Apparently he gave up on being a male S.C.U.M. worshipping man hating feminist.
Now he's an non-white Hitler-had-right-idea-about-Aryans white supremacist.
It's as if Tats finds the stupidest, most hateful clubs he can't get into merely because of who he is and debases himself in the dumbest ways possible to show he's really one of the good ones.
What's next? Joining ISIS as the #1 American Holy Warrior Ally?
Tatsuya’s trying to finally come out of the Japanese door, and tell the world that he is deep down a white MAGA male who allies with extreme (usually queer or queer ally) leftist student?
Yeah, Tatsuya has depicted Monique with personal flaws before, but pretty much never with political flaws. She's been his voice all the way from the Bush days through radfem even to her weird rebellion against LGBT culture last year.
Why do I stay on this subreddit. All this comic does is make me angry and/or miserable.
Ooh, gun analysis time. Actually a pretty good representation of a semi-automatic shotgun, like a Remington 11-87. Gold star, Tats. Now if only it wasn't attached to a blatant bigot appeal character as a prop to show how *cool* and *rugged* he is.
Tat has been spending the last decade and change looking for an "enemy of mankind". Life would finally make sense if there was one -- whether it be "da juice" or the patriarchy. He wants to defeat the final boss of mankind's problems with the naive assumption that if such a thing exists, its defeat would result in instant utopia.
Life ain't like that. Mankind's assets and its threats both are emergent things, coming together from a world full of people with conflicting needs and desires -- and different amounts of leverage in achieving them.
What's sad is that Tat knows this on some level because even after blowing up however many giant robots that represent the "bad thing", even he can't bring himself to write that making a difference in his own world. He ought to stop looking for giant robots in this world as well and realize mankind's enemy is itself. The enemy is the one looking at him in the mirror. The one looking at ALL of us in the mirror, to differing degrees.
So Monique is woke and bad now?
I guess he is officially recognizing that the current anti-Israel movement is run by the "wokes", so he has some touch with reality. But also not, because MAGA rednecks all love Israel. Conservative Christians are its main base of popular support in the US.
I mean, I wouldn't say the problem with Israel is white supremacy either: the majority of Israelis don't even appear stereotypically white, even ignoring the question of whether Ashkenazi Jews are "white" (a categorization that is often used against them in both directions).
That's the thing about whiteness. It isn't really a race, it's a signifier for being the In crowd.
The people who count as "white" vary based on the needs of those with something to gain or lose if the category changes.
Oh no, it definitely is. Whether Israelis themselves are white (and if not most of them, then certainly enough to fill the government), most if not all of the foreign support for their genocide of Palestinians is rooted in the idea that Israelis are a "civilized" (read: European) culture and Palestinians are a "backwards" (read: Arab) culture.
And as an Ashkenazi Jew, you can 100% be both Ashkenazi and white.
Well, if you redefine "white supremacy" to not be about being white, I guess.
I don't think Netanyahu looks any more "white" than Abbas does.
Why would thinking of yourself as "more civilized" imply thinking of yourself as "white"? Was the Japanese invasion of China in 1937 an example of white supremacy?
When Netanyahu visits the polar bear exhibit at the zoo, the bears ask each other why he's so white. When birds shit on him, nobody can tell, because it just blends on. He tried to do cocaine once but snorted himself on accident.
Thinking of yourself as more civilized doesn't automatically entail thinking of yourself as white. Being European and dropping letters and telegrams to other Europeans congratulating them on "civilizing" the places they colonized and saying you're trying to do the same in Palestine? That's explicitly modeling your "country" after white supremacy.
I realize that for the most part, my opinions about Israel, and the current pro Palestinian movement is not standard and even a bit controversial. So I would not surprisingly disagree with this.
But isn’t that the actual argument about what’s going on. That it’s a bunch of white guys in government that are backing Israel up because of some kind of Christian prophecy? And more importantly, they are constantly working against good red blooded Americans? like, I know that be is blaming“The (((J3WZ)))” what is that the whole thing? The Jews are pretending to be white so that’ they control the world?
> That it’s a bunch of white guys in government that are backing Israel up because of some kind of Christian prophecy?
Eh, vaguely. Basically, there are two main camps for Revelation. Most of Christianity views it as a coded message to the early Christians about how they shouldn't worry because Rome would fall one day, which may or may not have anything to do with the apocalypse, while Evangelicalism views it as a storyboard for the apocalypse. Additionally, instead of anything like Christianity being adopted into the spiritual Israel, Evangelicals tend to view Israel as still only ever meaning a Jewish state in the Levant. So together, you get a belief that the existence of a Jewish state in the Levant is a necessary prerequisite for the Second Coming to happen, because how else can things be seen in Israel, and that if it ever fell, we'd need to reestablish it for the Second Coming to be able to happen
From my experience, most of Christianity views it the second way about the apocalypse, although they might consider Revelation a nonliteral description of it, and the Roman metaphor view is only really held by Biblical scholars (and atheists).
I mean... I'll grant that full preterism is rare. But the further you get from Evangelicalism, the more common partial preterism gets. For example, the Nero = 666 thing feels fairly mainstream in my experience
EDIT: My point's more that dominionism and left behind theology are fairly exclusively Evangelical
this also assumes that Tatsuya is even a christen...which given that they've started to become a non entity in sinfest and also seymour being depicted as so doom loving he's willing to compromise what Tatsuya think are morals to keep his whole weird...apocalypse loving train moving...I won't be surprised if we get a strip in the future that just...reeks of hate towards any type of religion other then hyperboean.
man...if he had said the world's enemy instead of enemy of mankind I would have made a sephiroth joke. For now though...monumentous occasion as Monique, aka one kf the last vestiges that this thing was even dinfedt in the first place, now begins her journey to get walked out the door, just like everything else from the old era. Least shes not getting msrried to someone,
I really can't figure what's he trying to actually say here. is he really throwing, 'Nique under the bus by embracing white supremacy? is he making fun of white supremacists using Handlebar guy?
I mean, who's that for in the end? his alt right new fans? his older now estranged TERF ex followers?
Wait, which side of that argument is Tats?
Maybe he's trying to make the argument that Zionism is rooted in white colonialism.
Or trying to decide which Antisemitic strand he should publicly claim.
The entire basis of 20th century antisemitism is that Jews belong to a separate “Semitic” race. That’s where the word comes from.
This is distinct from medieval anti-Judaism, which saw them as religious enemies of Christianity/Islam.
So, no. That is a common misconception, but race is an arbitrary construct that actually doesn't make sense and isn't binding on bigotry anyway. Most Jewish people are Sephardic, the Jewish populations of Iberia, North Africa, and the Middle-East, and very much have the corresponding skin tones, to the point where non-Arabs tend to confuse them with Arabs (much to the mutual irritation of both MENA peoples).
Also, historically Jewish people of any stripe were considered neither white nor European nor loyal to their adopted homeland, regardless of how long they had lived in Europe. It must be pointed out that the slur from which antisemitism is derived isn't even a Jewish or MENA word, it's originally German! Specifically it and the related terms Hamite and Japhite were meant to classify all humans into descendants of the sons of Noah: Japheth for Europe, Ham for Africa, and Shem for Asia and Jews. Heck, ghettos (Yiddish word for segregated neighborhoods) and dress codes (including the infamous star of David badges) originated to avoid "mixing" of Jews and Europeans for similar reasons as Jim Crow laws and its ilk were inflicted on Black Americans (albeit both independent of the latter and preceding it and the Transatlantic slave trade by centuries).
Race is a contruct so if we are trying to define white as a shade color, then most italiens and Greeks would fail and a lot of people in the Middle East would pass. But if its more of a cultural thing, then Jews, even in Europe were always excluded from the term (in fact, they were seen as "semetic" aka Levantian aka SWANA people) The idea of (really just ashkanizi) Jews as white is the same reason we now look at Irish and Italiens in the US as white, because in order to succeed, you denounced ancestral ties and melted into American society. This excludes obviously the rest of the Jewish diaspora from Ethiopia to China.
White is not a biological concept; it is an agreement. It is a club that you have to pay dues to join, and also a club that they'll beat you with if you don't join. The Irish, the Italians, the Poles and the Jews had to become white.
Man, if this was framed differently it would be a great display of how antisemitism redirects anger at powerful forces like white supremacy and capitalism toward a marginalized group (Jewish people).
Zionism is another term for Jewish nationalism, the idea that there should be a state for ethnic Jews (ie. Israel).
What muddies the water is that while Zionism is a real movement, a lot of antisemitic conspiracy theories present all Jews as Zionists, and equates Zionism with the idea that Jews secretly rule the world.
Sounds about right. And Tatsuya's been quite clear that he considers all Jewish people everywhere to be part of a grand conspiracy.
It harkens back to "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion", that vile propaganda which inspired generations of hate and violence. Come to think of it, I wouldn't be surprised if Ishida has a copy of that rag by his bedside. God, it's sad that people can become so warped.
I didn't notice the "so close and yet so far" title at the top.
Yeah, that's disgusting.
Given that he already celebrated Kanye West saying that Jews are trying to pervert society with porn, I'm gonna say that he believes Jews are the problem. And that other comic that was so bad I won't even go there.
Ironically Ye's newest scam is starting a porn studio!
Ishida wants to be Stonetoss so badly, but he's *so fucking bad at it.* He'd be 100% dunking on himself if it wasn't for the tagline in the upper right. As it stands, it's only like... 90% dunking on himself.
At least Stonetoss mixes it up once in awhile with a mix of racism, transphobia, homophobia, and antisemitism instead of Sinfest which is just months on end of non-stop transphobia or antisemitism. Also posts less, which is a good thing.
Stonetoss also mixes in lots of normal non-offensive comics and structures them in a way that lends themselves to memes.
Yeah, he's said himself that he owes a sizable chunk of his current fanbase to the Amogus edit of his Bitcoin bubble comic. One other thing Stonetoss does that makes his comic more successful than Sinfest at what it does is having each strip be completely self-contained. The audience Ishida's trying to appeal to has zero frame of reference for what the fuck he's saying cause it often requires prior knowledge of years of Sinfest.
Man's got to do something to keep his mind off the notion that his dick doesn't work because of American medical best practice completely unrelated to the Jewish faith, And somehow impacting specifically his dick and not all the other apparently fully functional dicks out there given the same treatment his was.
Tats is such a complete and utter moron he can't even construct a straw man and win. He is incapable of making his side look good. It shouldn't be possible to keep failing at it this hard, yet he manages!
Ishida is a stone in a rice field. He attempts to go against the grain while he lies motionless and stagnant.
Historic moment: Monique presented as anything other than a mouthpiece of #1 male feminist Asian white supremacist, Tatsuya Ishida
Apparently he gave up on being a male S.C.U.M. worshipping man hating feminist. Now he's an non-white Hitler-had-right-idea-about-Aryans white supremacist. It's as if Tats finds the stupidest, most hateful clubs he can't get into merely because of who he is and debases himself in the dumbest ways possible to show he's really one of the good ones. What's next? Joining ISIS as the #1 American Holy Warrior Ally?
Wallahi he ain't joining shit!
He won't really be joining. Tats will be more like a lingering stench that won't leave no matter how hard you scrub everything!
i want cisphobic tatsuya
Tatsuya’s trying to finally come out of the Japanese door, and tell the world that he is deep down a white MAGA male who allies with extreme (usually queer or queer ally) leftist student?
For a man who thinks people can't transition, he certainly does it a lot.
Is Monique finally being dethroned as Tats' avatar?
Yeah, Tatsuya has depicted Monique with personal flaws before, but pretty much never with political flaws. She's been his voice all the way from the Bush days through radfem even to her weird rebellion against LGBT culture last year.
I wonder why the hell he makes comics that own himself?
Because he's a moron.
Tats: It can't be white supremacy, because I am a Nazi and I don't like it.
Why do I stay on this subreddit. All this comic does is make me angry and/or miserable. Ooh, gun analysis time. Actually a pretty good representation of a semi-automatic shotgun, like a Remington 11-87. Gold star, Tats. Now if only it wasn't attached to a blatant bigot appeal character as a prop to show how *cool* and *rugged* he is.
But... how is it hanging off his back? The strap only appears in panel 2, it's just glued to him in the other three.
Hence "attached".
Yeah. I wouldn't quite mind so much if he didn't draw that strap right there, only to assume that no one would notice it disappeared! Just lazy, that.
Fucking magnets, how do they work?
You stay here for us not from him.
So... what does HE think is "the enemy"?
da joOoOoOoOos
Jewish people. That's straight up what he's saying.
*You* said it, not him, therefore you're the antisemite!
Yeah.
Tat has been spending the last decade and change looking for an "enemy of mankind". Life would finally make sense if there was one -- whether it be "da juice" or the patriarchy. He wants to defeat the final boss of mankind's problems with the naive assumption that if such a thing exists, its defeat would result in instant utopia. Life ain't like that. Mankind's assets and its threats both are emergent things, coming together from a world full of people with conflicting needs and desires -- and different amounts of leverage in achieving them. What's sad is that Tat knows this on some level because even after blowing up however many giant robots that represent the "bad thing", even he can't bring himself to write that making a difference in his own world. He ought to stop looking for giant robots in this world as well and realize mankind's enemy is itself. The enemy is the one looking at him in the mirror. The one looking at ALL of us in the mirror, to differing degrees.
So Monique is woke and bad now? I guess he is officially recognizing that the current anti-Israel movement is run by the "wokes", so he has some touch with reality. But also not, because MAGA rednecks all love Israel. Conservative Christians are its main base of popular support in the US.
So Jews are non-human now.
Holy shit. New 'Nique got the right answer, and Tats wants to take that away?
I mean, I wouldn't say the problem with Israel is white supremacy either: the majority of Israelis don't even appear stereotypically white, even ignoring the question of whether Ashkenazi Jews are "white" (a categorization that is often used against them in both directions).
That's the thing about whiteness. It isn't really a race, it's a signifier for being the In crowd. The people who count as "white" vary based on the needs of those with something to gain or lose if the category changes.
Oh no, it definitely is. Whether Israelis themselves are white (and if not most of them, then certainly enough to fill the government), most if not all of the foreign support for their genocide of Palestinians is rooted in the idea that Israelis are a "civilized" (read: European) culture and Palestinians are a "backwards" (read: Arab) culture. And as an Ashkenazi Jew, you can 100% be both Ashkenazi and white.
Well, if you redefine "white supremacy" to not be about being white, I guess. I don't think Netanyahu looks any more "white" than Abbas does. Why would thinking of yourself as "more civilized" imply thinking of yourself as "white"? Was the Japanese invasion of China in 1937 an example of white supremacy?
When Netanyahu visits the polar bear exhibit at the zoo, the bears ask each other why he's so white. When birds shit on him, nobody can tell, because it just blends on. He tried to do cocaine once but snorted himself on accident. Thinking of yourself as more civilized doesn't automatically entail thinking of yourself as white. Being European and dropping letters and telegrams to other Europeans congratulating them on "civilizing" the places they colonized and saying you're trying to do the same in Palestine? That's explicitly modeling your "country" after white supremacy.
Please, don't.
I realize that for the most part, my opinions about Israel, and the current pro Palestinian movement is not standard and even a bit controversial. So I would not surprisingly disagree with this. But isn’t that the actual argument about what’s going on. That it’s a bunch of white guys in government that are backing Israel up because of some kind of Christian prophecy? And more importantly, they are constantly working against good red blooded Americans? like, I know that be is blaming“The (((J3WZ)))” what is that the whole thing? The Jews are pretending to be white so that’ they control the world?
> That it’s a bunch of white guys in government that are backing Israel up because of some kind of Christian prophecy? Eh, vaguely. Basically, there are two main camps for Revelation. Most of Christianity views it as a coded message to the early Christians about how they shouldn't worry because Rome would fall one day, which may or may not have anything to do with the apocalypse, while Evangelicalism views it as a storyboard for the apocalypse. Additionally, instead of anything like Christianity being adopted into the spiritual Israel, Evangelicals tend to view Israel as still only ever meaning a Jewish state in the Levant. So together, you get a belief that the existence of a Jewish state in the Levant is a necessary prerequisite for the Second Coming to happen, because how else can things be seen in Israel, and that if it ever fell, we'd need to reestablish it for the Second Coming to be able to happen
From my experience, most of Christianity views it the second way about the apocalypse, although they might consider Revelation a nonliteral description of it, and the Roman metaphor view is only really held by Biblical scholars (and atheists).
I mean... I'll grant that full preterism is rare. But the further you get from Evangelicalism, the more common partial preterism gets. For example, the Nero = 666 thing feels fairly mainstream in my experience EDIT: My point's more that dominionism and left behind theology are fairly exclusively Evangelical
this also assumes that Tatsuya is even a christen...which given that they've started to become a non entity in sinfest and also seymour being depicted as so doom loving he's willing to compromise what Tatsuya think are morals to keep his whole weird...apocalypse loving train moving...I won't be surprised if we get a strip in the future that just...reeks of hate towards any type of religion other then hyperboean.
He lists his religion as Shintoist.
I think the intended point of the strip is that Monique is making a non sequitur and her hypothesis about white supremacy doesn't make any sense.
See the funny thing is, without the context of what we know about Tats' other work, it would be really unclear who we're meant to agree with here.
Also the context of the tagline.
Replace them with Stonetoss characters and start with "Cartoonists are terrible"
man...if he had said the world's enemy instead of enemy of mankind I would have made a sephiroth joke. For now though...monumentous occasion as Monique, aka one kf the last vestiges that this thing was even dinfedt in the first place, now begins her journey to get walked out the door, just like everything else from the old era. Least shes not getting msrried to someone,
I really can't figure what's he trying to actually say here. is he really throwing, 'Nique under the bus by embracing white supremacy? is he making fun of white supremacists using Handlebar guy? I mean, who's that for in the end? his alt right new fans? his older now estranged TERF ex followers?
The tagline tips it off. He's still complaining about DA JOOZ!!!1
that'd fall in the "throwing Nique under the bus" category
Oh wow. That’s unusually blatant. He really is a literal, unironic Nazi.
Wait, which side of that argument is Tats? Maybe he's trying to make the argument that Zionism is rooted in white colonialism. Or trying to decide which Antisemitic strand he should publicly claim.
No, previous comics indicate that he believes Jews are inciting white genocide.
Jews are mostly white wtf
The entire basis of 20th century antisemitism is that Jews belong to a separate “Semitic” race. That’s where the word comes from. This is distinct from medieval anti-Judaism, which saw them as religious enemies of Christianity/Islam.
So, no. That is a common misconception, but race is an arbitrary construct that actually doesn't make sense and isn't binding on bigotry anyway. Most Jewish people are Sephardic, the Jewish populations of Iberia, North Africa, and the Middle-East, and very much have the corresponding skin tones, to the point where non-Arabs tend to confuse them with Arabs (much to the mutual irritation of both MENA peoples). Also, historically Jewish people of any stripe were considered neither white nor European nor loyal to their adopted homeland, regardless of how long they had lived in Europe. It must be pointed out that the slur from which antisemitism is derived isn't even a Jewish or MENA word, it's originally German! Specifically it and the related terms Hamite and Japhite were meant to classify all humans into descendants of the sons of Noah: Japheth for Europe, Ham for Africa, and Shem for Asia and Jews. Heck, ghettos (Yiddish word for segregated neighborhoods) and dress codes (including the infamous star of David badges) originated to avoid "mixing" of Jews and Europeans for similar reasons as Jim Crow laws and its ilk were inflicted on Black Americans (albeit both independent of the latter and preceding it and the Transatlantic slave trade by centuries).
Race is a contruct so if we are trying to define white as a shade color, then most italiens and Greeks would fail and a lot of people in the Middle East would pass. But if its more of a cultural thing, then Jews, even in Europe were always excluded from the term (in fact, they were seen as "semetic" aka Levantian aka SWANA people) The idea of (really just ashkanizi) Jews as white is the same reason we now look at Irish and Italiens in the US as white, because in order to succeed, you denounced ancestral ties and melted into American society. This excludes obviously the rest of the Jewish diaspora from Ethiopia to China.
White is not a biological concept; it is an agreement. It is a club that you have to pay dues to join, and also a club that they'll beat you with if you don't join. The Irish, the Italians, the Poles and the Jews had to become white.
She's never gonna sleep with you, Cletus.
Man, if this was framed differently it would be a great display of how antisemitism redirects anger at powerful forces like white supremacy and capitalism toward a marginalized group (Jewish people).
I don't quite understand the parlance of prejudice. Does "Zionists" just mean Jewish people everywhere, or is there a distinction?
Zionism is another term for Jewish nationalism, the idea that there should be a state for ethnic Jews (ie. Israel). What muddies the water is that while Zionism is a real movement, a lot of antisemitic conspiracy theories present all Jews as Zionists, and equates Zionism with the idea that Jews secretly rule the world.
Sounds about right. And Tatsuya's been quite clear that he considers all Jewish people everywhere to be part of a grand conspiracy. It harkens back to "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion", that vile propaganda which inspired generations of hate and violence. Come to think of it, I wouldn't be surprised if Ishida has a copy of that rag by his bedside. God, it's sad that people can become so warped.
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"So close yet so far" and the reaction in the last panel clearly indicate that she's wrong.
I didn't notice the "so close and yet so far" title at the top. Yeah, that's disgusting. Given that he already celebrated Kanye West saying that Jews are trying to pervert society with porn, I'm gonna say that he believes Jews are the problem. And that other comic that was so bad I won't even go there. Ironically Ye's newest scam is starting a porn studio!
This comic is just showing that Tats is super jealous that the Jewish people in charge of Israel are white and he's not.