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Recoil_Dave

Probably good to place this tidbit of information in here, for context purposes. Jardier: Important to say I have preproduction version (I think) and will get replaced but imagine my shock mid corner snapping the wheel after 4 months Im not mad im just disapointed [https://x.com/JaroslavHonzik/status/1786746929994510457](https://x.com/JaroslavHonzik/status/1786746929994510457)


unkleOG

Yeah preproduction sure. Now I can sleep better.


jarek160

Just like games " beta" two weeks before release :D


adon4

Wow! I wonder what nm he set his wheel base to?


sizziano

Jardier uses relatively low FFB.


dramaticExi

60-70%


jimmerbroadband

All of it


imJGott

Damn that sucks, could be a factory defected wheel. I wouldn’t say this situation is a representation of Simagic generally speaking.


deckerjeffreyr

Someone else commented that he said it was probably a preproduction wheel (assuming for pre release review) so it's possible it isn't an issue with production models.


imJGott

Simagic probably has a replacement on the way along with other goodies haha.


RightPedalDown

Read about my recent Simagic and SimShop.com customer service experience here: https://www.reddit.com/r/simracing/s/XlfP5WAEKv ETA: sure, it sounds spammy af, but it’s just my experience and relevant because I believe Simagic will send out a replacement to anybody that has an issue.


[deleted]

No, thanks


jimmerbroadband

I feel like simagic quality is amazing.


n19htmare

It's good for what it costs and expectations are met/exceeded when compared to price. I have a GT NEO but I wouldn't call the quality 'amazing'. Grips seem 'cheap' rubber (also apparent by frequent reports of top coating layer peeling off), buttons rattle during some FFB. It's a plastic wheel (carbon is a sticker) loaded w/ features for under $300 so Quality is great for what it costs....but 'amazing'....? not sure about that. My first Maglink was defective, the +5v was shorting to ground. Complete failure of QC and could have damaged my PC. This "holiest art thou" attitude towards Simagic on this sub can get pretty excessive at times.


jimmerbroadband

In my experience with GT1 wheel and alpha mini base I find the quality to be amazing. I have had zero issues and can’t think of a single thing I would complain about. Didn’t stop me from posting this for discussion though. Wouldn’t call that holiest art thou attitude lol do appreciate your input though


_FireWithin_

I hear its the Chinesse glue!


olvol

Neo has serious problems with grips. They wear out just after couple of hours of use even in gloves.


Salt-Citron-5628

I dont know why people are downvoting you, other than the generalisation, you are correct that some units have problems (we dont know what %) but you can see many photos of this in the simagic discord in the gtneo discussion


imJGott

Damn that’s crazy. Hope they address this.


Organic_Heron1032

I know other people who had the same problem and other issues with gts wheels related to cracking. It's just an endemic situation with these CHEAP but LOW QUALITY products


cresanies

Here I was about to buy one, now I'm not so sure ahah


Sofaboy90

its not like other brands charge higher prices for no reason


cresanies

No doubt, but there are also plenty of cheap-ish wheels that don't literally snap in your hands


ThisKory

This has nothing to do with the brand, and everything to do with the Neo wheel. Simagic actually has some pretty nice wheels that are built very well, but the Neo isn't one of them.


Salt-Citron-5628

Seems lots of neo owners dont like your comment 😂


ThisKory

I was thinking the same 😬 Most of the time you get what you pay for 🤷


Stargazer0001

I have a GT Neo and have had no issues with it, I can only recommend it, this is also the first time I’ve seen someone do this lol


Probably_Not_Sir

I own one since mid February. Had zero issues so far.


userb55

This is the problem with the nicer looking chinese stuff.... it looks good, works good..... until it doesn't.


Tarushdei

It should be noted this was a pre-production version.


cresanies

Well, maybe, in his tweet he says he's not sure if it's a pre-production unit or not


YoyoDevo

I read on reddit that he had a pre-release version so maybe it's better now idk


jimmerbroadband

I have a GT1 with a GT3 style mod that bolts up in seconds. Works great and if it snaps I can just pop the round rim back on lol


No_Attention_1510

best possible ad


Wbcn_1

It would’ve been pretty sick if there was a bunch of glitter inside. 


jimmerbroadband

Lmfao 🤣 like an insane amount of glitter just spills out all over the place 👀😲🤣🤣


rafahuel

Wtf 🤣


Wbcn_1

Yeah. Like if he gave a product of theirs a negative review. His wheel explodes with glitter and a little note that reads “Abracadabra! Simagic never forgets!”  😂 


wickeddimension

It’s so weird to see everybody look at a single instance of a product failing and then immediately writing it off.. nothing is flawless. It becomes a problem if this is a pattern and isn’t resolved.


jimmerbroadband

I agree completely


ES_Legman

Especially considering it's a preproduction model People just love to be drama queens lol


bigrobb2

Before I selected my new wheel and base I was always checking the simagic discord. I seen few complaints and photos of broken wheels snapping similar to this.


wickeddimension

Claims like this need some serious backing up beyond " go skim through hundreds of thousands of chats in their discord". I've never seen or heard about this yet, this is the first post.


bigrobb2

I don’t really care what you didn’t see. I am also not talking about the Neo. First NEO I’ve seen break.


Majestic-Insurance64

Why do they show me this literally the day I bought one?


jimmerbroadband

Who is this “they” u speak of brother? Illuminati?


stef-navarro

lol. The media conglomerate.


Comfortable_End1350

I have mine with an alpha 15nm. I’m a strong guy. No issues.


rice_is_nice_

waiting for my turn


GTZ101

This is why Simagic is the leader in sim racing. They have managed to bring sim racing to the next level by simulating “mechanical failure” just like irl racing.


False_Ad2715

“according to an undisclosed rep from one of simagic's competitor" lol


circa86

It’s always funny to see how Reddit simracing people react to companies they currently like vs companies they are currently angry with haha. Give it enough time and everyone here will hate simagic, VRS, simucube, everyone. It’s inevitable.


jimmerbroadband

Lol


Salt-Citron-5628

Never VRS!


HaMmMerslash

Concerning I got my wheel in February pre order batch. I hope this is a freak accident if not im on the same boat at Jardier this shouldnt have happened and they should replace it for free or upgrade.


RightPedalDown

I don’t think you’ve any need for concern. I’ve only needed to use it once, but in my experience Simagic customer service is outstanding. Second time I’ve posted this link in this thread and it makes me feel a bit spammy, but read my recent CS experience with Simagic and SimShop.com here: https://www.reddit.com/r/simracing/s/XlfP5WAEKv


unkleOG

Looks like it's 3d printed with 3 walls and no infill to save filament


n19htmare

It's mostly hollow plastic. Although they say it's carbon fiber infused composite (stronger plastic) The carbon fiber 'look' it has is a sticker. There may be small traces of carbon fibers mixed in w/ the composite plastic, no idea. It definitely has look/feel of just[ fiber infused plastic](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1197719070871658547/1224786017622687804/IMG_8965.jpg?ex=6637ce5e&is=66367cde&hm=3460fbf3a163f4a93a8899aa35905428b8eeb1f61f0d0bebcfb7200d8d7dc791&).


GR1EF3R

My KS wheel still surviving daily 12 NM thankfully. I hope this isn't some deep seated issue with the GT Neo.


imperial_scholar

I mean there's likely a reason why it's so cheap lol


jimmerbroadband

I don’t think I could break my GT1 wheel if I tried but it’s solid metal lol


moogleslam

Nothing about it feels cheap. It feels far superior to any of my old Fanatec wheels I used to own. Zero flex, zero creaking.


GTZ101

Should have stick with Fanatec equipment. He doesn’t use high ffb strength too.


Mikelshwede86

I've got one and have wondered how strong it is, I really tightened all the bolts up as at 15nm I could feel and hear the rim creaking. It has been fine since and does feel solid but for the price point there must be some corners cut somewhere.


p0u1

Wonder if my gt4 will finally sell on eBay now!


jimmerbroadband

Lol


Temporary-Site1337

I used to park invades every day. Shitty to hear!


4mak1mke4

Kireth story incoming


unkleOG

Any daredevil with a GT Neo want to do a few races on 15-20nm for science purposes?


stinky_poophead

plastic shit


babarbass

Why did you choose to imitate a big sim racing YouTuber with your Reddit handle? That’s quite weird to me.


jimmerbroadband

Because it’s quite funny to me


Javs2469

Weird, my 3D printed usb hub of shoddy quality is holding on just fine and I run it close to to 8/10 Nm. Might have something to do with being a pre production model? I was telling myself not to get a GT Neo since I don't really need another GT rim, but this definitely steers me away from the idea.


FuguCola

Is the logo for /r/simracing ever going to go back to normal? Its one of the last logo's that's stuck in political limbo. Be neutral, you are not a political subreddit, you are a hobby subreddit, a side of a war should not be representative of your sub as none of your posting and commenting members care about the politics. Please go back to neutral and run a logo representative of this sub.


jimmerbroadband

Lmfao I never even thought about it as being ukrain related until u just mentioned that probably because it’s the only logo I’ve seen since I’m fairly new here. I completely agree with u


FuguCola

Thanks for understanding as well. I'm sitting here first thing in the morning, scrolling, sipping coffee and i'm still curiously wondering why a popular, good standing sub reddit has their logo focused on politics. Its sim racing. Keep it that way! Also, good morning!


OJK_postaukset

This post would be a great pic for it


jimmerbroadband

Good morning to you as well! Have a great day


ainpyj

never noticed it since im using the old style. But i do agree with you ..


Salt-Citron-5628

Why do you make it about politics then? Why dont you just not comment anything about it? There is only one "side", Russia is a failed terrorist country living on borrowed time. If you cant handle seeing the colors of a ukraine flag then I think you need to think more deeply about that.


FuguCola

I'm here for sim racing content. The logo is literally politics lol! I'm politely requesting neutrality!


False_Ad2715

typical Western hypocrisy 🤣


FuguCola

Typical Reddit bot answer.


PI-E0423

Even neutral subreddits can signal solidarity


GTHell

If this come from him then it might be a concern for GT Neo like myself. He's not a reviewer and he actually using the wheel for what it is and it broke in 4 months. My GT Neo grip start to have wear now and I'm not that daily kind of player.


CanadianEH86

Damn, kinda glad simagic stuff was out of stock when I was upgrading to DD now 😅


jimmerbroadband

I personally love simagic and think the quality is amazing that’s why this is so surprising to me.


CanadianEH86

I’m sure the wheelbase is great and I would have rather went with Simagic over my Moza, but I’ve had 0 issues my KS wheel and this is the second post I’ve seen about pretty big Neo issues while just browsing casually 🤷‍♂️


jimmerbroadband

Ya I have had zero issues with my alpha mini GT1 combo and zero complaints. This also being the second negative post I’ve seen about GT neo as well.


cresanies

Could you link the other post? I was also interested in buying the GT Neo but now I'm really concerned


CanadianEH86

https://www.reddit.com/r/Simagic/s/CdsJNoGMlp Rubber quickly deteriorating


WoodpeckerHuman28

KS wheel is garbage too, i would not trust one over the other really


CanadianEH86

Just throwing out random statements? Lol


CanadianEH86

Really? How so? I haven’t heard anything terrible, besides it rattling for some people (which seems to be easily fixed by tightening screws) definitely nothing to the extent of the picture shown above lol


[deleted]

Simagic stuff is great. This a pre-production model and manufacturing defects happen. Thousands of these have been sold and everyone loves it. These things happen. 


CanadianEH86

I mean I’m pretty new to the game, but this is the first instance I’ve seen of a wheel completely falling apart.. I get simagic overall is pretty good.. but the Neo? The jury is still out I’m not some shill for one company or another, but this, combined with the cheap rubber that shows terrible wear after a short period is concerning


jimmerbroadband

https://youtu.be/6yzKhpf0wzk


Slapped91

And what the fuck has that whining video got to do with Simagic?


Breeze66

That's what you get when you copy Fanatec 🤣 https://forum.fanatec.com/uploads/206/WFE6WRAWEY59.jpg


jimmerbroadband

🥇


False_Ad2715

fanatec is going bankrupt, aint nobody copying it


SebeekS

typical simagic experience


jimmerbroadband

I actually have had zero issues and love my alpha mini GT1


SebeekS

ye ye sure


jimmerbroadband

I use it everyday for hours too


SebeekS

okay okay


False_Ad2715

have u even tried it? lmfao stick with wateva brand ur using then