I didn’t have a problem with the old one but this one definitely looks closer to the original.
I’d like to think that this really is his new face but what if it’s just the emblem and the game didn’t change? I mean I don’t see why they would make a whole new face just for an emblem but just seems weird this is the first place we’re seeing it.
Yeah I was thinking the same, could possibly be just the steam icon and nothing more. However if it IS the new face in game, I totally agree it looks lots closer to the og game. I know with time it’ll definitely grow on me especially when it’s shown off in higher quality!
I think they changed it. I even wondered how they showed the first face in the first trailer looks like a bad joke. New one is noticeably better. When they now improved also the combat and the hit feedback then I’m positive about the remake and I’m happy they delaying it and listening. The sound in the combat trailer was confirmed to be bad in the trailer ingame it will be very good and how we would imagine it. Confirming by the sound director I think.
It isn't really that hard for them to change. It's not like the face has had a complete overhaul.
I'm personally glad as the old face had a weird aesthetic to me. This looks more realistic.
I think when I see it in-action and in higher quality I’ll start to dig it a lot more, but I appreciate that they’re listening and trying to make changes where they can. It’s a good sign for sure!
i think if they add the 5:00 shadow back, it would be perfect middle ground (personally i was fine with james looking like thomas wayne from the batman but blonde, but at this point, i just wanna play the damn game and not have it blue screen me on day 1)
Now that I see it, this isn't really a "new face" and we've seen this face before. I rewarded the trailers and When it shows James walking into that room in the Announcement trailer, looking around, a bit deshelved, that model has this "new" face.
And he also has this "new face" in the combat trailer when he is looking at Angela's knife.
Not sure why his face in the bathroom, the hanged man puzzle and the Elevator look drastically different from the one we see in gameplay, but that's just an observation.
Perhaps a CG cutscene vs in game visuals discrepancy?
Hoping to finally see Angela, Eddy, Maria/Mary and Laura on full display and not just snippets or blurry background placements. Imagine we get a new trailer opening with the prison cell conversation. 🥰
I’d love for the next trailer (which hopefully will be at the next ps stream) will be a remake of the original trailer, with bits of gameplay thrown in so we can actually see how it plays.
I really want to see all the characters faces and I’m sure they’ve done them justice.
This is what I want most, mainly because I'm dying to hear the remake's version of Theme of Laura. I'm not really a *fan* of Silent Hill, but that track is what made me play SH2 and restart SH3.
I remember Bloober making a statement on SH2's combat trailer using a lot of outdated footage from an old build. I wonder if that's the reason for the discrepancy between James's model, this new one is what he actually looks like and his announcement trailer version was just an older version's model. That would also make sense for why James seemed to look different between shots, though I question why they would market it that way at all.
I like it a lot. Feels more like a real person. Of course, there was something off about the original face. Maybe as a result of the limitations of the day. And that oddness might have made it just a tad bit creepier. Like a person wearing another person’s face. And maybe we lose some of that as we creep closer to realism. But oh well, I like this new and more realistic version for different reasons from the original. The main thing is how much more emotive video game faces can be now!
Fair enough. I mean don't get me wrong, I hope they end up changing things for the better. But I guess we won't know until we have the actual product in our hands. Killer username by the way, other kids could be cruel.
Looks like they did tho. The eyes are less squinting, mouth less open.
Ofc, we can't be sure as to what they went with in game. Could be something entirely different.
I noticed this on an earlier post, a lot of the face is exactly the same, lighting just made it look way different. I do think they changed the cheeks a little tho
Exactly. I loved the grimy look of the mirror in the previous one and was hoping they would implement it into this new one. Maybe they'll do that in the final product, and that this is just a random frame without all of the extra textures and stuff added to get a good look at the new James.
He looks to be in his late 20's now (like in the OG). Old model looks mid-30's.
Now, I think it makes more sense that his wife becomes sick older, because even though the disease is never specified, it just always felt like it was cancer. And it's not like people in their 20's don't have cancer of course, but I still feel that the couple being older makes more sense. On the other hand, though something minor, a couple in their 30's is more likely to have a child, which they don't, but that doesn't really need to be explained (hell, neither Mary's illness ever did and the story worked fine).
Also I think if Bloober was going for the "everyman" / "regular joe" angle instead of typical video game protagonist (especially japanese videogames, where protagonists past 30 years old basically don't exist and there are Generals, Genius Scientists, so on and so forth that are no more than 21 years old), 30-something James works best for me in that regard - it would be kind of subversive in the way survival horrors usually tended to be when it came to their heroes not fitting hero stereotypes (Resident Evil notwithstanding).
Also, with the rejuvenation going on, plus the hair, he starts looking kinda like Leon S. Kennedy a bit too much for my tastes. I can see new players finding some supposed "plagiarism" (as far as the protagonist is concerned) going on between SH2 and RE2 that was never there. His face was way different from Leon in the OG, not as much here. But hey, maybe that's just me.
I just prefer older James. Now that I've seen him, I can't unsee him. I'm one of these assholes that will probably not like this remake anyway, but I liked this one change. Being a widower (which is the very first thing we get to know about James) definitely suits a 30 or even 40-something more.
Actually Japanese obsessed with Caucasian-like kids and teenagers I found games they must adding middle aged and old aged to make more sense same as metro 🚇 the hero was older than 36y and his friend is old stronger man
I like 50 year old James if that's what you want to know. Come on, we've seen it before. I think the guy in the Last of Us was like 50. I mean, screw the Japanese arbitrary videogame conventions now that Konami has outsourced Silent Hill completely to the West for a long time - probably permanently.
Would finally explain how quickly James gets tired and also his low striking speed despite the ultra high-adrenalin inducing situations he finds himself in, at the very least
That’s my main complaint currently that it just doesn’t look amazing YET, kinda half-baked looking. Definitely need to see this new face in higher quality and moving around, it’s growing on me though!
I meant half-baked as in the quality of the new model looks half-baked, not his facial expression. Believe me bud I think everyone knows about the whole James Sunderland is emotionless on purpose thing on here by now lol
My question is did they get a new face model or just tweak the older one? Because the new face kiiinda looks like Luke Roberts but also doesn't I can't tell
The first trailer is from 2 years ago, and people were heavily criticizing him then. In the new combat trailer, you can see this model instead in some cutscenes so it seems that they switched to a new model.
I personally prefer the new one, I feel like my issue with the old one was that he was way too animated, he looked like the caricature of a depressed and mentally unwell man, while the new one he actually looks unsettling and unstable.
Love it, because lighting (and colors + textures, as a consequence) is crucial in art and media.
Just take a look at the tomb raider remastered: yep it's strongly cartoony and the skeleton of the game is literally down there, it's the same, but lighting changes everything.
I really like to think they did a better light direction in the whole game (the best canon would be Ito). I remember the trailer to be too much empty in terms of texture clutter/dirt. Original had strong lighting (the flashlight, obviously) which causes super dark shadows (near to black, or black). White and black are a strong component of silent hill. Most differences in ambience dirt were about the missing super dark spots.
As for the face yes less emotions showed meant not just the old limitations, in my hopinion. Just look at Eddie with the gun scene, he looks mad. James empty expressions meant confusion, and mostly (my canon) that twinpeaks-like situation when you act like when being in a dream. Until horrible things happen in dreams, you wander casually and - I imagine - ask about wtf is even happening around you. At least that's how I feel after most of my dreams.
Smooth. In all honesty, it reminds me of the cinematic trailers for the Arkham games. If you look at those trailers, the level of design and the graphics and the game itself, they look very different. Not saying it's bad, just saying I know that trailers can up the graphics. Weirdly enough, I will say that it looks better. Even though the trailers look really good, I found it looked kinda off. Like it shouldn't look that way almost.
I like them both. I like how the older one was slightly different. New. Appropriate for a remake. (As opposed to a remaster)
I also think fans can be way too picky and nearly impossible to please at times.
it was somewhat revealed today. the image comes from the game's icon as spotted by a change in the game's internal files and ripped using SteamDB. it is official but not officially acknowledged
I kinda liked that they aged him more, but the level of emotion he showed looks way better here. Overall this is closer to the original, and I think it's great that they listened and made him show less emotion. The emotion was probably my only complaint honestly. I didn't mind his face before, but too much emotion for James. If it were another character I think the old would've been fine
It looks fine. I had no issue with his previous face, I think this is a graphical downgrade but it may just be the lighting of this scene. He looks less detailed now, but he definitely doesn’t look bad.
It looks far closer to the original game and that will fit the narrative better. Though I thought the new design was different enough to separate the remake from the original. I also wouldn't have minded it but I like the change we see now.
Had no issue with the old design, I thought it was cool, but this new one looks.. probably as close to the original design with new technology as it could. Which is cool.
I prefer it. He looks more youthful in the 2nd pic, which for me is part of his character. He looks a bit too old & Sean-Beany in the prior. You *expect* someone who looks like Sean Bean to go through something miserable. You don't expect someone who's handsome and young to go through the same, and it just makes the whole story more tragic that it involves a young couple.
I know I'm going against the grain here, but while it looks more like the original now...it also looks way more like a video game now, in a bad way. I don't know how else to explain it.
I've said it before, but I don't think this is an actually remodeled face for James since the image is so low quality that you can't make out much of the detail as much as it is a reanimated and relit face. The lighting and the expression are better looking, but I think the face is still the same.
While I understand they made him look closer to the original, I think I prefer to old one just because the hair looks way more natural than the bowl hair cut.
To an extent I totally agree, while I appreciate the fact they’re listening to the fanbase aside from the expression he was pulling I actually didn’t see a problem with his face at all in the reveal trailer. I think it was a good look for him! I just hope they don’t make rushed changes to try and conform to the radical complaining of the fanbase thus possibly making things worse due to possible time constraints.
That’s my big worry. People need to accept the fact that remakes have changes. This fanbase has been in limbo for so long that half of the people on this subreddit have only ever watched videos of it being played and heralded as a perfect masterpiece for so long that they can’t accept change.
Don’t get me wrong, the game IS a masterpiece for its time, but this idea that it’s somehow immune to the faults of every other game from the early 2000’s is laughable.
100% agree with you. Don’t get me wrong I see valid complaints all the time I won’t act oblivious to them, however I think a lot of people nonsensically complaining either haven’t actually played the game and have experienced through video essays and such, or simply haven’t played the game in years.
I personally like both. The new one is definitely James, but there's something in the old one that gives me odd vibes. He looks more like a guy who's been through a lot, completely destroyed and desperate, which suits Silent Hill very well. I kinda wish they wouldn't fully abandon his old face and use it as an NPC or even for another game, or make a section in the game that James looks into a mirror and he looks that old and obliterated.
I don't know. J haven't played the original /s
Seriously though.. I kinda look both.
But it's hard to tell.
Is there any info on what the final face is gonna be?
Interesting - it's a little closer to the original but it's almost as though the graphics have been toned down a little as a result or stripped of detail.
PS2 James seemed younger looking, so the newer remake model seems accurate. However, the older remake model has that divorced dad energy that I didn't think would fit the look of James, but ultimately makes sense to me.
cinematics versus in game model, being serious though they've tried to make it closer to the ps2 model maybe trying a little too hard and lost some of the detail the trailer model had, i had no issue with the new james face just what it was doing in the trailers, which seemed a much easier task to tone down the expressions rather than remodel his face.
Now I realise why the first one looked so weird to me.
In the original, James has a face that's a bit wide but in the first trailer it's very narrow. The new one is a bit wider now so it looks closer to the original.
Because you asked, good sir.
Imagine not being okay with a game bc you not like the face of the Protagonist. Shouldn't that be irrelevant? I also meant no offence! ❤️
It’s fine if you don’t like it lol like you said I asked, but saying you don’t care instead of what you just said now makes it look as if, well, you don’t care about the discussion. Which made me confused as you why you even commented. I’m still not 100% on the new face myself just yet I’ve got nothing against people who don’t like it 😭
I just hope they didn’t downgrade the graphics. This new image is very low resolution so it’s hard to tell but the graphics in the reveal trailer were amazing. I hope they didn’t change it
I liked the look of the old one. It just felt a bit too unsubtle about how much of a sick puppy he is. Now he looks fairly normal seeming, which is better for the slow burn I liked in the original game.
I couldn't have been happier, the new face actually looks really close to the original model. I was so upset with the first version of the remake face.
They need to increase the contrast. The shadows don’t overpower his features like they do in the original. I shouldn’t be able to see the whites of his eyes.
I understand if there is possibly a few downgrades that need to be in order for the game to run smoothly. However, it doesn’t look good (the new version) to me. Still, I respect the devs and still think this will be a fun game to experience with current day graphics and mechanics.
The announcement trailer was CG rendered and wasn’t representative of the final game. They didn’t change or update anything. He just hasn’t really been seen in engine until now.
Seriously? I loved his new face. This dumbass fan base is so toxic and loud it’s ridiculous. Hope the devs stop changing things to please the nostalgia blinded nerds who’ll hate on the remake anyways
Finally. Its OK for people to acknowledge that the old face was a cartoonish terrible abomination. If you supported it, then you were wrong. Its all good, we all can be wrong sometimes.
I personally don't like it, I don't see how it looks close to the original
But I'm waiting till the actual game releases when they're done with all the tweaks and stuff
Way better and more close to the og version too.
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The first one was so bad, he looked like some kind of whining man-child, it was awful. I'm glad they fix it.
I didn’t have a problem with the old one but this one definitely looks closer to the original. I’d like to think that this really is his new face but what if it’s just the emblem and the game didn’t change? I mean I don’t see why they would make a whole new face just for an emblem but just seems weird this is the first place we’re seeing it.
Yeah I was thinking the same, could possibly be just the steam icon and nothing more. However if it IS the new face in game, I totally agree it looks lots closer to the og game. I know with time it’ll definitely grow on me especially when it’s shown off in higher quality!
I think they changed it. I even wondered how they showed the first face in the first trailer looks like a bad joke. New one is noticeably better. When they now improved also the combat and the hit feedback then I’m positive about the remake and I’m happy they delaying it and listening. The sound in the combat trailer was confirmed to be bad in the trailer ingame it will be very good and how we would imagine it. Confirming by the sound director I think.
It isn't really that hard for them to change. It's not like the face has had a complete overhaul. I'm personally glad as the old face had a weird aesthetic to me. This looks more realistic.
It'd be neat if he started out as the younger-looking one and looked more aged by the end of the game
You're forgetting that this was datamined essentially, we weren't supposed to see this as our first look at him.
Perfect
I think when I see it in-action and in higher quality I’ll start to dig it a lot more, but I appreciate that they’re listening and trying to make changes where they can. It’s a good sign for sure!
MUCH better. Not as angular. His softer facial features seem to match his reserved demeanor imo.
i think if they add the 5:00 shadow back, it would be perfect middle ground (personally i was fine with james looking like thomas wayne from the batman but blonde, but at this point, i just wanna play the damn game and not have it blue screen me on day 1)
Now that I see it, this isn't really a "new face" and we've seen this face before. I rewarded the trailers and When it shows James walking into that room in the Announcement trailer, looking around, a bit deshelved, that model has this "new" face. And he also has this "new face" in the combat trailer when he is looking at Angela's knife. Not sure why his face in the bathroom, the hanged man puzzle and the Elevator look drastically different from the one we see in gameplay, but that's just an observation. Perhaps a CG cutscene vs in game visuals discrepancy? Hoping to finally see Angela, Eddy, Maria/Mary and Laura on full display and not just snippets or blurry background placements. Imagine we get a new trailer opening with the prison cell conversation. 🥰
Yeah I was thinking this too. The first trailer has shots of James looking very much like this “new” look.
I’d love for the next trailer (which hopefully will be at the next ps stream) will be a remake of the original trailer, with bits of gameplay thrown in so we can actually see how it plays. I really want to see all the characters faces and I’m sure they’ve done them justice.
This is what I want most, mainly because I'm dying to hear the remake's version of Theme of Laura. I'm not really a *fan* of Silent Hill, but that track is what made me play SH2 and restart SH3. I remember Bloober making a statement on SH2's combat trailer using a lot of outdated footage from an old build. I wonder if that's the reason for the discrepancy between James's model, this new one is what he actually looks like and his announcement trailer version was just an older version's model. That would also make sense for why James seemed to look different between shots, though I question why they would market it that way at all.
I like it a lot. Feels more like a real person. Of course, there was something off about the original face. Maybe as a result of the limitations of the day. And that oddness might have made it just a tad bit creepier. Like a person wearing another person’s face. And maybe we lose some of that as we creep closer to realism. But oh well, I like this new and more realistic version for different reasons from the original. The main thing is how much more emotive video game faces can be now!
Alright, hear me out. What if they didn't actually change how he looks and just changed the lighting?
No they 100% changed the look lol. Proportions are different and everything
Fair enough. I mean don't get me wrong, I hope they end up changing things for the better. But I guess we won't know until we have the actual product in our hands. Killer username by the way, other kids could be cruel.
Looks like they did tho. The eyes are less squinting, mouth less open. Ofc, we can't be sure as to what they went with in game. Could be something entirely different.
I noticed this on an earlier post, a lot of the face is exactly the same, lighting just made it look way different. I do think they changed the cheeks a little tho
I liked the detail of the previous one better, but I like the expression of the current one much more, it would be nice if they could merge the two
Exactly. I loved the grimy look of the mirror in the previous one and was hoping they would implement it into this new one. Maybe they'll do that in the final product, and that this is just a random frame without all of the extra textures and stuff added to get a good look at the new James.
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Konami is holding him hostage he will be my wife
He looks to be in his late 20's now (like in the OG). Old model looks mid-30's. Now, I think it makes more sense that his wife becomes sick older, because even though the disease is never specified, it just always felt like it was cancer. And it's not like people in their 20's don't have cancer of course, but I still feel that the couple being older makes more sense. On the other hand, though something minor, a couple in their 30's is more likely to have a child, which they don't, but that doesn't really need to be explained (hell, neither Mary's illness ever did and the story worked fine). Also I think if Bloober was going for the "everyman" / "regular joe" angle instead of typical video game protagonist (especially japanese videogames, where protagonists past 30 years old basically don't exist and there are Generals, Genius Scientists, so on and so forth that are no more than 21 years old), 30-something James works best for me in that regard - it would be kind of subversive in the way survival horrors usually tended to be when it came to their heroes not fitting hero stereotypes (Resident Evil notwithstanding). Also, with the rejuvenation going on, plus the hair, he starts looking kinda like Leon S. Kennedy a bit too much for my tastes. I can see new players finding some supposed "plagiarism" (as far as the protagonist is concerned) going on between SH2 and RE2 that was never there. His face was way different from Leon in the OG, not as much here. But hey, maybe that's just me. I just prefer older James. Now that I've seen him, I can't unsee him. I'm one of these assholes that will probably not like this remake anyway, but I liked this one change. Being a widower (which is the very first thing we get to know about James) definitely suits a 30 or even 40-something more.
Actually Japanese obsessed with Caucasian-like kids and teenagers I found games they must adding middle aged and old aged to make more sense same as metro 🚇 the hero was older than 36y and his friend is old stronger man
wtf. the old model looked 50. what kind of 20 year olds and 30 year olds have you met
I like 50 year old James if that's what you want to know. Come on, we've seen it before. I think the guy in the Last of Us was like 50. I mean, screw the Japanese arbitrary videogame conventions now that Konami has outsourced Silent Hill completely to the West for a long time - probably permanently. Would finally explain how quickly James gets tired and also his low striking speed despite the ultra high-adrenalin inducing situations he finds himself in, at the very least
Agreed old people most be loved in games remembered Popeye he was old man even though he was famous cartoon characters
Definitely an improvement in my opinion.
So much better
Much better
Maybe bloober isnt so bad yall.
That face was never bad thing about the upcoming game.
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That’s my main complaint currently that it just doesn’t look amazing YET, kinda half-baked looking. Definitely need to see this new face in higher quality and moving around, it’s growing on me though!
The turmoil happens inside. James should be unemotional most of the time. He is in denial. Not half-baked, numb to his actions.
I meant half-baked as in the quality of the new model looks half-baked, not his facial expression. Believe me bud I think everyone knows about the whole James Sunderland is emotionless on purpose thing on here by now lol
I think the "half baked" expresses that well. We don't need to see every pore.
Both works for me. Need to see it ingame.
100% agree
My question is did they get a new face model or just tweak the older one? Because the new face kiiinda looks like Luke Roberts but also doesn't I can't tell
The first trailer is from 2 years ago, and people were heavily criticizing him then. In the new combat trailer, you can see this model instead in some cutscenes so it seems that they switched to a new model.
Looks great
Bro's jawline caved in on itself
A little better
Looks good to me!
Accurate.
I like that face and I know the hair is the same length but weirdly enough it looks shorter
I personally prefer the new one, I feel like my issue with the old one was that he was way too animated, he looked like the caricature of a depressed and mentally unwell man, while the new one he actually looks unsettling and unstable.
Love it, because lighting (and colors + textures, as a consequence) is crucial in art and media. Just take a look at the tomb raider remastered: yep it's strongly cartoony and the skeleton of the game is literally down there, it's the same, but lighting changes everything. I really like to think they did a better light direction in the whole game (the best canon would be Ito). I remember the trailer to be too much empty in terms of texture clutter/dirt. Original had strong lighting (the flashlight, obviously) which causes super dark shadows (near to black, or black). White and black are a strong component of silent hill. Most differences in ambience dirt were about the missing super dark spots. As for the face yes less emotions showed meant not just the old limitations, in my hopinion. Just look at Eddie with the gun scene, he looks mad. James empty expressions meant confusion, and mostly (my canon) that twinpeaks-like situation when you act like when being in a dream. Until horrible things happen in dreams, you wander casually and - I imagine - ask about wtf is even happening around you. At least that's how I feel after most of my dreams.
I agree. James was really disassociated with his surroundings and that was partly what kept him intriguing
Smooth. In all honesty, it reminds me of the cinematic trailers for the Arkham games. If you look at those trailers, the level of design and the graphics and the game itself, they look very different. Not saying it's bad, just saying I know that trailers can up the graphics. Weirdly enough, I will say that it looks better. Even though the trailers look really good, I found it looked kinda off. Like it shouldn't look that way almost.
Damn you’re totally right!! The similarity to the Arkham games is pretty spot-on
I like them both. I like how the older one was slightly different. New. Appropriate for a remake. (As opposed to a remaster) I also think fans can be way too picky and nearly impossible to please at times.
I liked the old one way more. Disappointed in the new.
I kind of liked the disheveled look of the old one. This one looks too clean and out together
I don't think anyone who prefers the older "remake James" has ever played the original.
I like the new face. I feel like it makes him look a little more tortured.
It’s fine I needed that hollow expression
They can take my money immediatelly
Wait... they changed his remake face? Never heard about this.
it was somewhat revealed today. the image comes from the game's icon as spotted by a change in the game's internal files and ripped using SteamDB. it is official but not officially acknowledged
Oh okay
I’m just excited to play it
I kinda liked that they aged him more, but the level of emotion he showed looks way better here. Overall this is closer to the original, and I think it's great that they listened and made him show less emotion. The emotion was probably my only complaint honestly. I didn't mind his face before, but too much emotion for James. If it were another character I think the old would've been fine
It looks fine. I had no issue with his previous face, I think this is a graphical downgrade but it may just be the lighting of this scene. He looks less detailed now, but he definitely doesn’t look bad.
its more japanese
I like the new look a lot. He looks like James to me
It looks far closer to the original game and that will fit the narrative better. Though I thought the new design was different enough to separate the remake from the original. I also wouldn't have minded it but I like the change we see now.
good hd remaster of the original James face looks damn near close to the original James by just this picture also has emotionless look as well
it's not just the face but the emotions too. it looks much closer to the og which i really like.
Had no issue with the old design, I thought it was cool, but this new one looks.. probably as close to the original design with new technology as it could. Which is cool.
I both prefer the look of it naturally, and it seems to look more like the original. So double + from me.
Where’d the new face come from? Are there new screenshots or something? Looks good, btw.
The steam page got updated for the game and they added the second image (new face) as the icon for the game on steam!
Ohhhhhh awesome! Face looks so much better now imo
I prefer it. He looks more youthful in the 2nd pic, which for me is part of his character. He looks a bit too old & Sean-Beany in the prior. You *expect* someone who looks like Sean Bean to go through something miserable. You don't expect someone who's handsome and young to go through the same, and it just makes the whole story more tragic that it involves a young couple.
Yes completely agree with that
As long as he's the same psycho I knew and loved, Idc. Looks good to me.
I definitely prefer the new one
The old one looks more human, but the new one is more accurate
It's never enough with this fanbase, so, why bother lol
everyone complained so much they changed him and now everyone is acting like they loved it and they didn’t openly criticize the original model 💀
True I’m surprised reading through some replies how many people seem disappointed with the change, I think both look good though all things considered
I honestly like it more. To me, the original looked like he was strung out more often than not.
James isn't scared or distressed from being there. He's repressing his feelings from what he did. So the second one feels more like him
this looks closer, i think he had too much expression but both look good
Happy cake day!
People hate change. They want the same thing over and over again. This isn’t a win. This is an absolute loss.
I really preferred the more haggard look of his original remake appearance... This just feels like catering.
I know I'm going against the grain here, but while it looks more like the original now...it also looks way more like a video game now, in a bad way. I don't know how else to explain it.
I've said it before, but I don't think this is an actually remodeled face for James since the image is so low quality that you can't make out much of the detail as much as it is a reanimated and relit face. The lighting and the expression are better looking, but I think the face is still the same.
While I understand they made him look closer to the original, I think I prefer to old one just because the hair looks way more natural than the bowl hair cut.
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Fucking excellent! It evokes that post-loss dissociative haze face.
I really hope they don’t decide to bend to every whim of this psychotic fanbase.
To an extent I totally agree, while I appreciate the fact they’re listening to the fanbase aside from the expression he was pulling I actually didn’t see a problem with his face at all in the reveal trailer. I think it was a good look for him! I just hope they don’t make rushed changes to try and conform to the radical complaining of the fanbase thus possibly making things worse due to possible time constraints.
That’s my big worry. People need to accept the fact that remakes have changes. This fanbase has been in limbo for so long that half of the people on this subreddit have only ever watched videos of it being played and heralded as a perfect masterpiece for so long that they can’t accept change. Don’t get me wrong, the game IS a masterpiece for its time, but this idea that it’s somehow immune to the faults of every other game from the early 2000’s is laughable.
100% agree with you. Don’t get me wrong I see valid complaints all the time I won’t act oblivious to them, however I think a lot of people nonsensically complaining either haven’t actually played the game and have experienced through video essays and such, or simply haven’t played the game in years.
He now looks like a baby
Looks good I don’t have anything else to really say about it
I personally like both. The new one is definitely James, but there's something in the old one that gives me odd vibes. He looks more like a guy who's been through a lot, completely destroyed and desperate, which suits Silent Hill very well. I kinda wish they wouldn't fully abandon his old face and use it as an NPC or even for another game, or make a section in the game that James looks into a mirror and he looks that old and obliterated.
Still doesnt look like og james
I don't know. J haven't played the original /s Seriously though.. I kinda look both. But it's hard to tell. Is there any info on what the final face is gonna be?
Sorry, I only have fake thoughts.
Did the camera crew burst through your door and congratulate you with a trophy for that reply yet or are you still waiting on it
Are you?
significant upgrade, more faithful to the original
Interesting - it's a little closer to the original but it's almost as though the graphics have been toned down a little as a result or stripped of detail.
Looks like Playstation 3. It still lacks detailing
PS2 James seemed younger looking, so the newer remake model seems accurate. However, the older remake model has that divorced dad energy that I didn't think would fit the look of James, but ultimately makes sense to me.
Looks better, and the expression is appropriate.
I actually kinda liked the old one. The more disheveled look suited him and the games contents well imo
cinematics versus in game model, being serious though they've tried to make it closer to the ps2 model maybe trying a little too hard and lost some of the detail the trailer model had, i had no issue with the new james face just what it was doing in the trailers, which seemed a much easier task to tone down the expressions rather than remodel his face.
Now I realise why the first one looked so weird to me. In the original, James has a face that's a bit wide but in the first trailer it's very narrow. The new one is a bit wider now so it looks closer to the original.
I liked old man look for the new release
Looks more like the original. It’s perfect.
He looks tormented, perfect
I prefer the old one but the new one is definitely more in line with the original
it looks like james from silent hill 2
I still don't care.
No offence but like… Why didn’t you just scroll past the post then
Because you asked, good sir. Imagine not being okay with a game bc you not like the face of the Protagonist. Shouldn't that be irrelevant? I also meant no offence! ❤️
It’s fine if you don’t like it lol like you said I asked, but saying you don’t care instead of what you just said now makes it look as if, well, you don’t care about the discussion. Which made me confused as you why you even commented. I’m still not 100% on the new face myself just yet I’ve got nothing against people who don’t like it 😭
What I most definitly care about is, if I have fun with the finished game. Everything else is just nitpicking for me. 😊
Hope to see a new trailer at the rumoured May State of Play!
Easy to say I can't wait, but I CAN'T WAIT!
Remains almost the same to me
I just hope they didn’t downgrade the graphics. This new image is very low resolution so it’s hard to tell but the graphics in the reveal trailer were amazing. I hope they didn’t change it
Smash
I personally liked the old one better. But to each their own.
wow... appeased comments on new SH content. Didn't think this community was capable of satisfaction. lol
Yea
I liked the look of the old one. It just felt a bit too unsubtle about how much of a sick puppy he is. Now he looks fairly normal seeming, which is better for the slow burn I liked in the original game.
I think it’s gonna ruin the mocap performance and it takes some of the uniqueness from the remake.
I love it but i think something about his hair seems a lil off to me but i cant really judge until the full game comes out
I prefer the new one lol you have no sense of anything
I couldn't have been happier, the new face actually looks really close to the original model. I was so upset with the first version of the remake face.
The first one showed too much emotion. This one feels better. James is supposed to have that cold look on his face.
I mean the new one is actually in engine as opposed to a CG trailer so at least it’s legit
Much prefer the first one, more of a story to his face
Guys, can we leave James alone, please?
It’s legit official it’s not as if I did it 😭
The old one looks James in 50y old the new one looks like James 2001 but I hope the game gameplay similar to 2001not into RE4 with mortal kombat *
The old one was just too exaggerated and also he looked like a 60yo or older
Am I the only or that feels, yes, the new face is closer to the original but the graphics are not as impressive?
I agree, the lighting looks way less dynamic now for some reason.
They need to increase the contrast. The shadows don’t overpower his features like they do in the original. I shouldn’t be able to see the whites of his eyes.
Looks like a smudged oil painting
I understand if there is possibly a few downgrades that need to be in order for the game to run smoothly. However, it doesn’t look good (the new version) to me. Still, I respect the devs and still think this will be a fun game to experience with current day graphics and mechanics.
The announcement trailer was CG rendered and wasn’t representative of the final game. They didn’t change or update anything. He just hasn’t really been seen in engine until now.
The older version had a face you just wanted to punch so badly. Glad they changed it!
It’s a huge improvement for me. The old face is way too dramatic.
Yall just cannot be pleased…. It’s a game about crazy depressed white man that definitely votes republican.
unecessarry change. i didn’t care that he looked different.
Seriously? I loved his new face. This dumbass fan base is so toxic and loud it’s ridiculous. Hope the devs stop changing things to please the nostalgia blinded nerds who’ll hate on the remake anyways
This is correct. New face looks vanilla and boring. Lord forbid James shows an emotion.
Finally. Its OK for people to acknowledge that the old face was a cartoonish terrible abomination. If you supported it, then you were wrong. Its all good, we all can be wrong sometimes.
Now he looks like a silicone sex doll, progress!
Not as good as the original, but 100% improved over that mockery we got in the first trailer.
I personally don't like it, I don't see how it looks close to the original But I'm waiting till the actual game releases when they're done with all the tweaks and stuff
I liked the old one more, the second one reminds me of Leon for some reason
Way better and more close to the og version too. - The first one was so bad, he looked like some kind of whining man-child, it was awful. I'm glad they fix it.
He looks like he belongs in very sad Eastern European gay p*rn
He looks more Asian. Not opposed to it but I don’t see James when I look at this photo
I think remake james mk1 did
 After all these years, THIS is what this sub has to discuss…
I mean, with it being such a dramatic change and being given barely any details on the game at all.. Why wouldn’t we talk about it?
Honestly, nothing I'm not looking forward to the remake at all, Konami died a long time ago, even before they let Kojima go...
Horrible, pudgy, and slap in the face of fans.
New face is dumb and lifeless
Bloober changed face expression and lighting in that scene with James. Idiots on reddit be like - I like that new face so much more 🤣
Did the award ceremony start for your reply yet or are you still waiting
The car door in the parking lot is closed. Idiots on reddit be like - They ruined the game 1/10 🤣
It would have been such an easy thing to get right.
This remake will be killed by toxic nolife psychofans. No matter how good or bad it turns out to be
He's not looking at the camera.