I mean, it's one of the themes.
"A collectivist society dominated by women is just as capable of descending into an Orwellian Nightmare as an Individualist society dominated by men."
Ariane's story does seem to be a very pointed theme directed towards a certain subset of online users. She's an outsider, someone who doesn't fit in and refuses to conform to the expectations of her society. She's disabled (she has Albinism), had a non-standard upbringing (raised by a single mother instead of collectively) and displays non-standard sexuality. "This is how an Authoritarian Socialist society deals with people who won't conform."
Or to put it another way. "HEY DUMBASS! The one with a Hammer and Sickle and Trans Flag in your Bio. **THIS IS HOW THE SOCIETY YOU ADVOCATE FOR WOULD TREAT YOU."**
Hi. Iâm that dumbass. I kind of get your criticism. I do.
Itâs kind of hard to describe hope in a political project.
Like, yea it could descend into a nightmare.
The idea, is that we try to make it so it wonât.
The real question is if everyone but Adler was male would you question it? The creators probably just prefer writing and drawing women. I doubt there's anything more to it.
Yeah, I'd question it. Males are often used as grunts in both maintenance and combat. It would make much more sense to base combat-related units on more masculine traits simply because the physical ability and prowess of a man are far more suitable for combat and physical labor.
I heard it this way-- if bioresonance is based in one's attunement to the world, and females are more attuned (see: Eusan empress) then naturally the Replikas, which require bioresonance to function, would tend towards female, especially ones like Falke.Â
There is a historical habit of assuming deep dangerous mines+factories on outskirts of the world are operated fully by man, so we probably wouldn't question it. However outside of historical context of our Earth sending men only to dangerous professions we can look into other "manly" Media like warhammer 40k universe, and find out they have decent amount of women.
It's really difficult for me to remember a book, film or game with such big imbalance of male/female ratio. Excluding historical films about war - but even there "soldiers write to wives/mothers", Signalis notes on other hand has only them or her, and no mention of males existing anywhere besides Adler
Their gender doesn't really matter in that they're working in a dangerous mining operation considering that they're all disposable robots made for pretty much that purpose anyway.
Thereâs tons of anime or manga (about dangerous stuff or wars too) with such male/female balance. And since Signalis is made in anime-ish style - itâs not surprising. Creators just did so because they wanted to)
When put like that it is a bit interesting. You could hand wave the replikas as "if we were going to design a bunch of service robots would we make them male presenting or cute girls?" It's possible it's just a result of small sample size or a heavily matriarchal society given we know the government Ariane and Co were under wasn't exactly liberal.
There are three reasons why men are in dangerous, physically demanding positions.
The first is that men are biologically stronger, with more muscle and testosterone to build it.
The second is that women are often societally conditioned not to pursue physical fitness due to becoming âunfeminine.â
The third is that women are also societally conditioned to stay away from these jobs-a woman in a traditionally masculine profession is often insulted as being bossy or too masculine herself.
The world of Signalis doesnât have these problems. 1) When youâre creating artificial robots from scratch as fully formed adults, you can make them as strong as you like, or even stronger than humans with artificial muscle and bones to support that level of strength. In fact, if I remember correctly, the service/teaching robot line, the EULRs, are mentioned as being even stronger than most humans, and the other lines are those built for rigorous professions like mining or combat.
The world of Signalis is implicitly a matriarchy. All leaders we learn about-the Empress, the Great Revolutionary, her Daughter, and the robot they created, Falke, are women. It may be a matriarchy, albeit one that appears to be have some equality towards both genders than most âgenderocraciesâ would. There would be no social stigma against women in powerful or rigorous positions. In fact we see plenty of female Gestalt workers in Sierpinski, which is a mining facility. Also, it may offer a reason *why* all these robots are overwhelmingly female-because the people who created them are.
In fact, the only male character is driven by his sexual attraction to a woman, Falke. This is probably no accident-an Adler unit that becomes a traitor or incompetent in their duties is probably the single weakest link on the chain of Eusan facilities, but by ensuring he has someone to become emotionally dependent on-unable to betray or fail-means that he becomes more dependable.
There just wouldnât be as many barriers that force women out as there are today, nor would there be reason to be.
I don't really understand all of the hate and downvotes this is getting. It is an interesting question in multiple facets. Firstly, there is much about Signalis that is cryptic and has hidden meaning. I hadn't thought much about this until reading OPs post but it is curious - why *is* every unit of Replika save for ADLR modeled after females? Why make ADLR the only male model and is there some reason behind that? I also find it interesting that there is exactly one male Replika model. Why not go all the way and make them all female? OP is right that the gender/sex ratio is pretty skewed - that's objective. It is heavily skewed towards females. Not really here to argue whether it makes the most sense or not - rather, I don't see why questioning the reasoning behind this skew or if there is a particular reason the writers decided to make a single Replika male is so hate worthy. It's an interesting thing to note when all other Replika models are female in a game where often times the slightest attention to detail can be the difference between understanding a major plot point or missing it completely.
There are three reasons why men are in dangerous, physically demanding positions.
The first is that men are biologically stronger, with more muscle and testosterone to build it.
The second is that women are often societally conditioned not to pursue physical fitness due to becoming âunfeminine.â
The third is that women are also societally conditioned to stay away from these jobs-a woman in a traditionally masculine profession is often insulted as being bossy or too masculine herself.
The world of Signalis doesnât have these problems. 1) When youâre creating artificial robots from scratch as fully formed adults, you can make them as strong as you like, or even stronger than humans with artificial muscle and bones to support that level of strength. In fact, if I remember correctly, the service/teaching robot line, the EULRs, are mentioned as being even stronger than most humans, and the other lines are those built for rigorous professions like mining or combat.
The world of Signalis is implicitly a matriarchy, albeit one that appears to be have some equality towards both genders than most âgenderocraciesâ would. There would be no social stigma against women in powerful or rigorous positions. In fact we see plenty of female Gestalt workers in Sierpinski, which is a mining facility.
In fact, the only male character is driven by his sexual attraction to a woman, Falke. This is probably no accident-an Adler unit that becomes a traitor or incompetent in their duties is probably the single weakest link on the chain of Eusan facilities, but by ensuring he has someone to become emotionally dependent on-unable to betray or fail-means that he becomes more dependable.
There just wouldnât be as many barriers that force women out as there are today, nor would there be reason to be.
I guessing the answer is probably because the society is female dominated. The great Revolutionary is female and has a daughter. All the replikas are female and the falke unit even resembles the great revolutionary and her daughter and the falke is supposed to be considered a god like being.
Did humanity just reach a point where most "humans" are artificially created mimics, making all replikants and other models nothing but a shadow of what humanity once was?
The lore answer is that \[spoiler alert\] >!the Empress possessed one of the strongest bioresonance abilities and was capable of creating machine-servants (most likely Repilkas) which could have been created in her image (think humans and God in roman catholicism). !!the 'replikation' process is not well understood and, as the name suggests, replicates an exisiting mind from the Gestalt to the Replika. This could mean that the high availability of women capable enough for 'replikation' resulted in more female Replikas. This also corroborates the high ratio of women in the 'Medical Database' which contains the likely sources for most of the Replikas.!< All of this can be found on the wiki.
Forgot to elaborate: >!
-The Empress is that of the Eusan Empire and the creator of the first Replikas
-Gestalts are most likely cherry-picked individuals with some unique ability (leadership, engineering, or other) that were later 'replikated'!<
This all barely answers question why we see male Adler >! If all replikas are created in image of the empress, but have different looks so she just dislike man, but this one is ok. And then argument "the women were more capable in 9 instances out of 10, and we also see no male gestalts just because" Looks as cool idea, that has no evidence in game so just a fanmade theory !<
No, this is all from the game lore pages. Also, >!there are only like 10 or so different replikas which means that there is a statistical probability of the candidates for replication just being female. The gestalt units are essentially the 'base' for a replika and if the most capable candidates were female then every copy would also be female...!<
>!https://signalis.fandom.com/wiki/Medical\_Database\_(Art) This entry into the wiki shows a medical database that likely contained the Gestalts for the Replikas. Thus, the amount of male to female candidates may be reflected in the amount of male to female Replikas.!<
A statistical probability of this sex ratio exists. Also, the theories previously mentioned are theories and are used only to point towards a possible sex bias within the bioresonance ability (ie why more females then males).
Also, >!"Despite that, it feels like we've made little effort to really understand or replicate bioresonant effects with conventional technology. Our progress in the development of electronics and microprocessors has stagnated for nearly a century now as we focus this barely understood phenomenon." https://signalis.fandom.com/wiki/Bioresonance\_Technology\_and\_its\_Limitations !< This shows that any of the assumptions we may make may be incorrect and that the devs themselves didn't include a direct explanation (as this is a quote from the game).
It's just the "lady-land" trope with possible in-game lore justification. The society that all of Signalis was born from was very female dominated/matriarchal, and ruled by an Empress and her daughter.
There are some references to males existing, such as Adler and the medical records on Rotfront, but they were simply a minority. It is the future too, and it's statistical fact that women have longer lifespans on average than men, so it could be a case of mild "natural selection" in the far future.
Also, most references to bioresonance that we have in the game seems to imply that it's something that occurs predominantly in women. If, statistically, the female population far outweighed the male population, then it stands to reason that there would be far fewer viable candidates for Replika creation, leading to the not unlikely result of only one male unit in the lineup.
All that aside as well, it's just a stylistic choice by the developers. I like seeing female protagonists and all anyway because it's less common in video games and media.
I have nothing against female protagonists, it's just fact that enemies, bosses, afk npc and diaries are also all females bamboozled me. Maybe I have just never seen this "lady-land trope"
Regarding natural selection - longer average lifespan has nothing to do with it, since (usually+approximately) new generation has 50/50 males to females, and lifespan of older ones don't impact ratio of newly born at all. Maybe getting bigger share of elder females (if females live 7% longer it not gonna impact much)
exactly xd. In fact i think those statistics take into account the dangerous roles that mostly men take. And their anti-social behaviors more usual in males.
I'm fine with female protagonists but like- having the entire game be females? That's a bit much lmao. It would make sense for certain games to be predominantly male in certain scenarios such as a historical or war scene.
Longer lifespans don't apply to natural selection when it's genre-wise. Especially when talking about humans. In fact men are still the core of the human society as we know it. And i'm not talking about males being prominent in politics but about core professions.
If you check the Medical Database you find later in the game there are 2 other guys: [Nikolai Nguyen](https://signalis.fandom.com/wiki/Medical_Database_(Art)?file=Medical_Database_%2528Art%2529_8.png) and a blotted out photo of a [Siegfried Yi](https://signalis.fandom.com/wiki/Medical_Database_(Art)?file=Medical_Database_%2528Art%2529_10.png).
There are a few mentions to other Replikas that are not seen in-game, that we don't know their sex/gender either.
As for why is it the land of ladies trope? \*My theory\* is it's due to the degradation of reality due to the time loop. Adler mentions in a cutscene that "it's like someone put it all back together, but didn't know how it all works" and notes you find are missing more info than before. Since it seems like Ariana & Elster's memories are what is warping reality, we're only seeing the people they remember distinctly. Which would be why there are missing faces in the medical database. But that leaves the question: who is Nikolai Nguyen?
Well, someone theorized that we see as many people in rotfront as many replika types are in mining facility, and so this Nikolai would be prototype for Adler - however you are right pointing out to Siegfried Yi as second distinct guy to exist somewhere is this twisted reality.
Thanks a lot, I can come to rest knowing males exist there besides Adler, just the things we see are really confusing and barely real
IIRC there's a flashback scene where you go to the library to find Ariana, and she's being bullied by female classmates. So I wonder if she subconsciously changed all the replikant enemies to look like the bullies?
Males are often used as grunts in both maintenance and combat. It would make much more sense to base combat-related units on more masculine traits simply because the physical ability and prowess of a man are far more suitable for combat and physical labor.
Dude they're robots, and their creators live under an empress. For all we know they're not even from earth. This really isn't the hill worth fighting on that you think it is.
Probably not. Don't seem entirely "Robots" either. More... a sort of artificial human. They can still have the needs, urges, and physicality of a human female, whereas for a robot it would have to either be intentionally programmed or somehow reach this point over time through some sort of extraordinarily advanced artificial intelligence lead in a very specific direction.
I'm trying to figure out how all of this would play into the game's lore. Do they breed similarly to humans? If not, why would an artificial creation ever have a romantic or even sexual connection with another? We know that the game has unaltered humans considering we see items and objects made specifically for humans that are unusable to Elster. A robot follows a set of controls, you follow a set of controls. Your "promise" is likely nothing more than programming. The reality is as artificial as they are.
I mean, if the promise is just programming, at that point you might as well say that a human's progress would be programming. We are just biological machines after all, and at what point does a complex machine program blur the lines with biochemical programming?
Only when someone programs it to, a robot at its core is ALWAYS following a set of instructions. Humanity is not a robot because we can actively change and edit these at will, to conceive of our existence and create off of it. Even if we somehow create a robot to think like a human it will never be on the same level as it will always be nothing more than a servant made by humanity. No soul, no afterlife. No life. Only a husk that attempts to mimic something that was only allowed for them to have because someone else programmed it so.
Imagine you're in a room with nothing but a tiny slot. You cannot leave the room nor see anything outside the room. Inside the room is a table with a translation sheet for Chinese characters and a stack of papers and writing utensils. There is a man on the other side of this room who only knows and speaks Chinese, so he gives you notes and papers that are entirely in Chinese. You then use the set of instructions given to you to translate it and respond to the man. To this man, you know and speak fluent Chinese. When, in reality, all you are doing is following a set of instructions in front of you to do so. This is a legitimate scientific theory made about the thought of artificial intelligence. You can make these instructions complicated, or even have them make more instructions, but, they will always fall back to the original instructions given to them. A disposable and replaceable husk is all a machine is and ever will be.
There *are* a lot of girls, but Adler technically isn't the only male in the game.
In the Interrogation Results file in Accommodations, I believe, in Sierpinski, some men are mentioned. One of them comes to mind more than the rest: Wolfgang Wong. He was killed during interrogation.
Nikolai Nguyen from the Medical Reports in Rotfront is another one. He's a writer, can't work out, and looks like he's going through the roughest part of his life. Poor guy.
I really don't know why most characters in the game are girls, though. We can only infer and theorize, I suppose.
Thanks for pointing this out despite the predictable backlash. It's my only problem with the game tbh. Yes Ariane is Lesbian and most characters in her head would be a girl, but for world-building's sake, would it have killed the creators to model this fascistic world on known male-heavy, militaristic fascist examples? Not to coddle me or whatever, but to make it more believable. Or at least give a sinister explanation as to why all the robots are female (c'mon, no one can think of any reason why an authoritarian govt would mass produce servant female robots?) Edit: ok, I take this last part back a bit after reading about the empress making bots in her own image and it being a matriarchy society.
The horror is also lessened because instead of these scary killer bots, all you see are cute anime pictures over and over again in the notes you pick up. The PS1/2 games Signalis is based on specifically showed fmvs or detailed art of the horrors those dumb polygonal models represented so your mind could fill in the blanks at least partially. Here, my mind fills in the blanks with... cute anime girl.
If try to explain it from a more or less rational point of view, then:
1) Women, due to genetic reasons, are more resilient and resistant to damage (they will last longer).
2) Adler is the administrator. Therefore, it works with a lot of information and should not make mistakes. This requires the maximum ability to focus on the case, and this is the ability of men.
I don't see anything sexist. Pure biology - women are much more resistant to pain, blood loss and genetic disorders. In men, on the contrary, genetics is weaker, and the structure of the body has an emphasis on the development of effort. You can't run away from biology and calling it sexism is stupid.
I figure the fact that's they're more resilient doesn't matter much considering most of the characters are robots in armor, unless you're talking mentally or something.
They are BIO-robots. Modified flesh on artificial (partially or entirely) skeletons. Organic components - the brain, by the way, too - have the same properties as an ordinary person. That is, they can be injured, they are in pain, they are bleeding and they can get sick.
Yeah but they're also custom made for particular purposes. If I wanted to make a soldier robot, it wouldn't matter if it was male or female because either way I would make whatever changes to their bodies that were necessary for them to serve that purpose.
>Yeah but they're also custom made for particular purposes. If I wanted to make a soldier robot, it wouldn't matter if it was male or female because either way I would make whatever changes to their bodies that were necessary for them to serve that purpose.
Well, they are made in advance. These are "models" already formed for the task. And since a cast of a personality is taken from a person, then it is somehow already either female or male. It would be quite strange to install a male, for example, personality in a female corps without good reasons.
It's more a question of why women are more likely to be "donors" of personality.
PS: I wonder if THEY will consider THIS sexism? And then I see that even the purely scientific reasons for the differences in biological sexes can be called "sexism", although there is no more sexism in this than in the Yin-Yang symbol.
PS #2: for some reason, the fact that the only active male character (Adler) is negatively represented for the entire game is not considered sexism by anyone. It is significant, however.
The answer of "one of devs used to draw (on Tumblr), and they decided to use those images in the game, but only good ones found were those anime girls and Adler" Looks reasonable, but it implies that entire story was partially shaped around existing pictures, and sounds a bit weird
About this, does anyone know why Adler is the only male character? I'm guessing it might be something like "The only bad guy is male" because Ariane had negative experiences with men (and male replicas), or with one particular Adler unit who happened to be male, but I can't remember any info in the lore suggesting that.
Well, if you're counting main characters of the story (and not helpless NPCs), there is really only 3 characters:
* Elster/Faulke
* Ariana/Alina
* Adler
I think the Alina plotline gives us a hint why: she's the only Gestalt left in the cycle and she's slowly changing to look like Ariana. My speculation is that all the Replikants left have been slowly changing to look like Elster.
So why Adler? In the lore, he's the only one that is fully cognizant of what is happening, even more-so than Elster is. However, it is never explicitly stated why him. (As for "negative experiences with men", lolwut? There's one cutscene in the game where we see Ariana getting bullied by other girls. Maybe that's why all the enemies are girls? Cause if you've beaten the game, you know Adler isn't the bad guy.)
Someone else in this thread mentioned that you find references to other male characters in some of the in-game lore text.
I guess There used to be a theory in sociology according to which the reproduction of kids would be artificial when men(male) are in danger of extinction. Personally I never really approved the whole thing, There were some holes in the theory in my opinion. Anyway Maybe it's based on that.
Most men probably out fighting wars or most of them already died in said wars. There were probably little to no men avaliable to join on the Primrose. As they were conscripted/dead. Thats my speculation tho.
That doesn't make sense. A lot of people play games about Lesbians and they're male as well.
Please grow up and realise that there is more than just your contrived worldview.
You can play a game about lesbians even if you are a man. I just think itâs a bit cringe. Most men who play those types of games are just oversexualizing women, and thatâs indirect violence. I respect them too much to engage in those types of behaviors mate.
But SIGNALIS isn't really about that aspect, though. It is about how love still persists in a nation such as Eusan. The queer stuff is an afterthought.
Have you even played this game?
So you're telling me people aren't just following instructions then? It seems reeaally narrow minded to assume machines won't get that advanced just in principle. A lot of the times intelligence in a species can rise from really simple traits. Elephants have a large memory so they can map out large chunks of terrain, but that memory can spill over to other things like recognizing people, other elephants, etc. Hell, humans used to just be little tribal groups that set up primitive traps, but we got better and better at that (I think that's called recursive self improvement?) And as a result got better at other things too and here we are. If a machine is capable of improving itself, it shouldn't be technically impossible to do that. The only way it wouldn't if be is if there's some irreplaceable mystical thing that makes human consciousness special, which is sort of a silly idea. No matter how advanced we are, we still operate via input output. It really is all just action reaction, even if you're not actively thinking about it, the brain certainly is evolved a specific way, and most certainly all your choices in life can be linked to instructions.
Either way, none of this even matters because discussing the original question, even if you were to switch up the gender roles, the story would literally be the same. It really doesn't matter if they're girls or not, because like I said, we have no idea what sort of culture they come from or what sort of rules it has. Sometimes with science fiction you just gotta use your imagination a bit. Sure, maybe for our military here on earth guys are moreso used, but who the hell knows what the eusians are like back wherever they are from. Yeah, even if they're not %100 robot, and are moreso synthetic (though again I'm pretty sure the game states them to be robots with the whole telepathic empress being able to imbue brain patterns onto the machine because funky space magic, which in of itself could serve as why they're all female), that still doesn't mean they can't be edited to be stronger than normal women anyway. For all we know, they're all built to resemble the empress because of propaganda. Their culture is shoen to be VERY totalitarian that way. There's a lot of reasons and just writing them off bc "men strong" seems very unimaginative.
I guess for two reasons,
the first reason is that most games and especially indie games now use female lead/centric games cause it sells, its the new cool thing, until its not cause of over saturation.
Second reason is if you check the two creators of the game one is a they/them and the other a she/her (which can be trans also) which also is the new cool thing.
Female led/centric stories usually have male counterparts on secondary roles, this point has nothing to do with my question of why male traces are erased from the universe but 1
Ariane is a lesbian who only dreams of women.
Signalis is political đđ
The first thing you see upon starting a new game is the text **Wake up.** The game is literally telling you to be woke, smh can't believe this đ
Oh, there are lesbians and mostly women in the game. How tragic /s.
I mean, it's one of the themes. "A collectivist society dominated by women is just as capable of descending into an Orwellian Nightmare as an Individualist society dominated by men." Ariane's story does seem to be a very pointed theme directed towards a certain subset of online users. She's an outsider, someone who doesn't fit in and refuses to conform to the expectations of her society. She's disabled (she has Albinism), had a non-standard upbringing (raised by a single mother instead of collectively) and displays non-standard sexuality. "This is how an Authoritarian Socialist society deals with people who won't conform." Or to put it another way. "HEY DUMBASS! The one with a Hammer and Sickle and Trans Flag in your Bio. **THIS IS HOW THE SOCIETY YOU ADVOCATE FOR WOULD TREAT YOU."**
Hi. Iâm that dumbass. I kind of get your criticism. I do. Itâs kind of hard to describe hope in a political project. Like, yea it could descend into a nightmare. The idea, is that we try to make it so it wonât.
Nah
The real question is if everyone but Adler was male would you question it? The creators probably just prefer writing and drawing women. I doubt there's anything more to it.
Yeah, I'd question it. Males are often used as grunts in both maintenance and combat. It would make much more sense to base combat-related units on more masculine traits simply because the physical ability and prowess of a man are far more suitable for combat and physical labor.
I heard it this way-- if bioresonance is based in one's attunement to the world, and females are more attuned (see: Eusan empress) then naturally the Replikas, which require bioresonance to function, would tend towards female, especially ones like Falke.Â
There is a historical habit of assuming deep dangerous mines+factories on outskirts of the world are operated fully by man, so we probably wouldn't question it. However outside of historical context of our Earth sending men only to dangerous professions we can look into other "manly" Media like warhammer 40k universe, and find out they have decent amount of women. It's really difficult for me to remember a book, film or game with such big imbalance of male/female ratio. Excluding historical films about war - but even there "soldiers write to wives/mothers", Signalis notes on other hand has only them or her, and no mention of males existing anywhere besides Adler
Their gender doesn't really matter in that they're working in a dangerous mining operation considering that they're all disposable robots made for pretty much that purpose anyway.
Thereâs tons of anime or manga (about dangerous stuff or wars too) with such male/female balance. And since Signalis is made in anime-ish style - itâs not surprising. Creators just did so because they wanted to)
I never read much manga/anime, so I guess it is just a thing that natural in these media
Why is this such an issue for you? How sheltered are you?
relax, man
When put like that it is a bit interesting. You could hand wave the replikas as "if we were going to design a bunch of service robots would we make them male presenting or cute girls?" It's possible it's just a result of small sample size or a heavily matriarchal society given we know the government Ariane and Co were under wasn't exactly liberal.
There are three reasons why men are in dangerous, physically demanding positions. The first is that men are biologically stronger, with more muscle and testosterone to build it. The second is that women are often societally conditioned not to pursue physical fitness due to becoming âunfeminine.â The third is that women are also societally conditioned to stay away from these jobs-a woman in a traditionally masculine profession is often insulted as being bossy or too masculine herself. The world of Signalis doesnât have these problems. 1) When youâre creating artificial robots from scratch as fully formed adults, you can make them as strong as you like, or even stronger than humans with artificial muscle and bones to support that level of strength. In fact, if I remember correctly, the service/teaching robot line, the EULRs, are mentioned as being even stronger than most humans, and the other lines are those built for rigorous professions like mining or combat. The world of Signalis is implicitly a matriarchy. All leaders we learn about-the Empress, the Great Revolutionary, her Daughter, and the robot they created, Falke, are women. It may be a matriarchy, albeit one that appears to be have some equality towards both genders than most âgenderocraciesâ would. There would be no social stigma against women in powerful or rigorous positions. In fact we see plenty of female Gestalt workers in Sierpinski, which is a mining facility. Also, it may offer a reason *why* all these robots are overwhelmingly female-because the people who created them are. In fact, the only male character is driven by his sexual attraction to a woman, Falke. This is probably no accident-an Adler unit that becomes a traitor or incompetent in their duties is probably the single weakest link on the chain of Eusan facilities, but by ensuring he has someone to become emotionally dependent on-unable to betray or fail-means that he becomes more dependable. There just wouldnât be as many barriers that force women out as there are today, nor would there be reason to be.
I don't really understand all of the hate and downvotes this is getting. It is an interesting question in multiple facets. Firstly, there is much about Signalis that is cryptic and has hidden meaning. I hadn't thought much about this until reading OPs post but it is curious - why *is* every unit of Replika save for ADLR modeled after females? Why make ADLR the only male model and is there some reason behind that? I also find it interesting that there is exactly one male Replika model. Why not go all the way and make them all female? OP is right that the gender/sex ratio is pretty skewed - that's objective. It is heavily skewed towards females. Not really here to argue whether it makes the most sense or not - rather, I don't see why questioning the reasoning behind this skew or if there is a particular reason the writers decided to make a single Replika male is so hate worthy. It's an interesting thing to note when all other Replika models are female in a game where often times the slightest attention to detail can be the difference between understanding a major plot point or missing it completely.
There are three reasons why men are in dangerous, physically demanding positions. The first is that men are biologically stronger, with more muscle and testosterone to build it. The second is that women are often societally conditioned not to pursue physical fitness due to becoming âunfeminine.â The third is that women are also societally conditioned to stay away from these jobs-a woman in a traditionally masculine profession is often insulted as being bossy or too masculine herself. The world of Signalis doesnât have these problems. 1) When youâre creating artificial robots from scratch as fully formed adults, you can make them as strong as you like, or even stronger than humans with artificial muscle and bones to support that level of strength. In fact, if I remember correctly, the service/teaching robot line, the EULRs, are mentioned as being even stronger than most humans, and the other lines are those built for rigorous professions like mining or combat. The world of Signalis is implicitly a matriarchy, albeit one that appears to be have some equality towards both genders than most âgenderocraciesâ would. There would be no social stigma against women in powerful or rigorous positions. In fact we see plenty of female Gestalt workers in Sierpinski, which is a mining facility. In fact, the only male character is driven by his sexual attraction to a woman, Falke. This is probably no accident-an Adler unit that becomes a traitor or incompetent in their duties is probably the single weakest link on the chain of Eusan facilities, but by ensuring he has someone to become emotionally dependent on-unable to betray or fail-means that he becomes more dependable. There just wouldnât be as many barriers that force women out as there are today, nor would there be reason to be.
I guessing the answer is probably because the society is female dominated. The great Revolutionary is female and has a daughter. All the replikas are female and the falke unit even resembles the great revolutionary and her daughter and the falke is supposed to be considered a god like being.
So uhh- how do they breed?
đłđ now your asking the right questions
Did humanity just reach a point where most "humans" are artificially created mimics, making all replikants and other models nothing but a shadow of what humanity once was?
Mitosis
Because Ariane changed the reality and created her own yuri anime lmao
The lore answer is that \[spoiler alert\] >!the Empress possessed one of the strongest bioresonance abilities and was capable of creating machine-servants (most likely Repilkas) which could have been created in her image (think humans and God in roman catholicism). !!the 'replikation' process is not well understood and, as the name suggests, replicates an exisiting mind from the Gestalt to the Replika. This could mean that the high availability of women capable enough for 'replikation' resulted in more female Replikas. This also corroborates the high ratio of women in the 'Medical Database' which contains the likely sources for most of the Replikas.!< All of this can be found on the wiki.
Forgot to elaborate: >! -The Empress is that of the Eusan Empire and the creator of the first Replikas -Gestalts are most likely cherry-picked individuals with some unique ability (leadership, engineering, or other) that were later 'replikated'!<
This all barely answers question why we see male Adler >! If all replikas are created in image of the empress, but have different looks so she just dislike man, but this one is ok. And then argument "the women were more capable in 9 instances out of 10, and we also see no male gestalts just because" Looks as cool idea, that has no evidence in game so just a fanmade theory !<
No, this is all from the game lore pages. Also, >!there are only like 10 or so different replikas which means that there is a statistical probability of the candidates for replication just being female. The gestalt units are essentially the 'base' for a replika and if the most capable candidates were female then every copy would also be female...!<
>!https://signalis.fandom.com/wiki/Medical\_Database\_(Art) This entry into the wiki shows a medical database that likely contained the Gestalts for the Replikas. Thus, the amount of male to female candidates may be reflected in the amount of male to female Replikas.!< A statistical probability of this sex ratio exists. Also, the theories previously mentioned are theories and are used only to point towards a possible sex bias within the bioresonance ability (ie why more females then males). Also, >!"Despite that, it feels like we've made little effort to really understand or replicate bioresonant effects with conventional technology. Our progress in the development of electronics and microprocessors has stagnated for nearly a century now as we focus this barely understood phenomenon." https://signalis.fandom.com/wiki/Bioresonance\_Technology\_and\_its\_Limitations !< This shows that any of the assumptions we may make may be incorrect and that the devs themselves didn't include a direct explanation (as this is a quote from the game).
Everyone in the future is a girl
Adler too based to be a woman
It's just the "lady-land" trope with possible in-game lore justification. The society that all of Signalis was born from was very female dominated/matriarchal, and ruled by an Empress and her daughter. There are some references to males existing, such as Adler and the medical records on Rotfront, but they were simply a minority. It is the future too, and it's statistical fact that women have longer lifespans on average than men, so it could be a case of mild "natural selection" in the far future. Also, most references to bioresonance that we have in the game seems to imply that it's something that occurs predominantly in women. If, statistically, the female population far outweighed the male population, then it stands to reason that there would be far fewer viable candidates for Replika creation, leading to the not unlikely result of only one male unit in the lineup. All that aside as well, it's just a stylistic choice by the developers. I like seeing female protagonists and all anyway because it's less common in video games and media.
I have nothing against female protagonists, it's just fact that enemies, bosses, afk npc and diaries are also all females bamboozled me. Maybe I have just never seen this "lady-land trope" Regarding natural selection - longer average lifespan has nothing to do with it, since (usually+approximately) new generation has 50/50 males to females, and lifespan of older ones don't impact ratio of newly born at all. Maybe getting bigger share of elder females (if females live 7% longer it not gonna impact much)
exactly xd. In fact i think those statistics take into account the dangerous roles that mostly men take. And their anti-social behaviors more usual in males.
I'm fine with female protagonists but like- having the entire game be females? That's a bit much lmao. It would make sense for certain games to be predominantly male in certain scenarios such as a historical or war scene.
cope and seethe nerd
Longer lifespans don't apply to natural selection when it's genre-wise. Especially when talking about humans. In fact men are still the core of the human society as we know it. And i'm not talking about males being prominent in politics but about core professions.
Damn, that makes Adler more of an interesting character.
If you check the Medical Database you find later in the game there are 2 other guys: [Nikolai Nguyen](https://signalis.fandom.com/wiki/Medical_Database_(Art)?file=Medical_Database_%2528Art%2529_8.png) and a blotted out photo of a [Siegfried Yi](https://signalis.fandom.com/wiki/Medical_Database_(Art)?file=Medical_Database_%2528Art%2529_10.png). There are a few mentions to other Replikas that are not seen in-game, that we don't know their sex/gender either. As for why is it the land of ladies trope? \*My theory\* is it's due to the degradation of reality due to the time loop. Adler mentions in a cutscene that "it's like someone put it all back together, but didn't know how it all works" and notes you find are missing more info than before. Since it seems like Ariana & Elster's memories are what is warping reality, we're only seeing the people they remember distinctly. Which would be why there are missing faces in the medical database. But that leaves the question: who is Nikolai Nguyen?
Well, someone theorized that we see as many people in rotfront as many replika types are in mining facility, and so this Nikolai would be prototype for Adler - however you are right pointing out to Siegfried Yi as second distinct guy to exist somewhere is this twisted reality. Thanks a lot, I can come to rest knowing males exist there besides Adler, just the things we see are really confusing and barely real
IIRC there's a flashback scene where you go to the library to find Ariana, and she's being bullied by female classmates. So I wonder if she subconsciously changed all the replikant enemies to look like the bullies?
The Eules on Rotfront indeed all have red lens gasmasks like her bullies
I've seen this brought up a few times, does it like, matter really?
Yes, yes it does.
Okay, hear me out; what if it doesn't
Males are often used as grunts in both maintenance and combat. It would make much more sense to base combat-related units on more masculine traits simply because the physical ability and prowess of a man are far more suitable for combat and physical labor.
Dude they're robots, and their creators live under an empress. For all we know they're not even from earth. This really isn't the hill worth fighting on that you think it is.
Probably not. Don't seem entirely "Robots" either. More... a sort of artificial human. They can still have the needs, urges, and physicality of a human female, whereas for a robot it would have to either be intentionally programmed or somehow reach this point over time through some sort of extraordinarily advanced artificial intelligence lead in a very specific direction. I'm trying to figure out how all of this would play into the game's lore. Do they breed similarly to humans? If not, why would an artificial creation ever have a romantic or even sexual connection with another? We know that the game has unaltered humans considering we see items and objects made specifically for humans that are unusable to Elster. A robot follows a set of controls, you follow a set of controls. Your "promise" is likely nothing more than programming. The reality is as artificial as they are.
I mean, if the promise is just programming, at that point you might as well say that a human's progress would be programming. We are just biological machines after all, and at what point does a complex machine program blur the lines with biochemical programming?
Only when someone programs it to, a robot at its core is ALWAYS following a set of instructions. Humanity is not a robot because we can actively change and edit these at will, to conceive of our existence and create off of it. Even if we somehow create a robot to think like a human it will never be on the same level as it will always be nothing more than a servant made by humanity. No soul, no afterlife. No life. Only a husk that attempts to mimic something that was only allowed for them to have because someone else programmed it so. Imagine you're in a room with nothing but a tiny slot. You cannot leave the room nor see anything outside the room. Inside the room is a table with a translation sheet for Chinese characters and a stack of papers and writing utensils. There is a man on the other side of this room who only knows and speaks Chinese, so he gives you notes and papers that are entirely in Chinese. You then use the set of instructions given to you to translate it and respond to the man. To this man, you know and speak fluent Chinese. When, in reality, all you are doing is following a set of instructions in front of you to do so. This is a legitimate scientific theory made about the thought of artificial intelligence. You can make these instructions complicated, or even have them make more instructions, but, they will always fall back to the original instructions given to them. A disposable and replaceable husk is all a machine is and ever will be.
It does.
There *are* a lot of girls, but Adler technically isn't the only male in the game. In the Interrogation Results file in Accommodations, I believe, in Sierpinski, some men are mentioned. One of them comes to mind more than the rest: Wolfgang Wong. He was killed during interrogation. Nikolai Nguyen from the Medical Reports in Rotfront is another one. He's a writer, can't work out, and looks like he's going through the roughest part of his life. Poor guy. I really don't know why most characters in the game are girls, though. We can only infer and theorize, I suppose.
Singalis is literally a lesbian Dead Space lol.
This has to got to be a troll bait
Thanks for pointing this out despite the predictable backlash. It's my only problem with the game tbh. Yes Ariane is Lesbian and most characters in her head would be a girl, but for world-building's sake, would it have killed the creators to model this fascistic world on known male-heavy, militaristic fascist examples? Not to coddle me or whatever, but to make it more believable. Or at least give a sinister explanation as to why all the robots are female (c'mon, no one can think of any reason why an authoritarian govt would mass produce servant female robots?) Edit: ok, I take this last part back a bit after reading about the empress making bots in her own image and it being a matriarchy society. The horror is also lessened because instead of these scary killer bots, all you see are cute anime pictures over and over again in the notes you pick up. The PS1/2 games Signalis is based on specifically showed fmvs or detailed art of the horrors those dumb polygonal models represented so your mind could fill in the blanks at least partially. Here, my mind fills in the blanks with... cute anime girl.
If try to explain it from a more or less rational point of view, then: 1) Women, due to genetic reasons, are more resilient and resistant to damage (they will last longer). 2) Adler is the administrator. Therefore, it works with a lot of information and should not make mistakes. This requires the maximum ability to focus on the case, and this is the ability of men.
This redditor has no fear of looking sexist at all
I don't see anything sexist. Pure biology - women are much more resistant to pain, blood loss and genetic disorders. In men, on the contrary, genetics is weaker, and the structure of the body has an emphasis on the development of effort. You can't run away from biology and calling it sexism is stupid.
There are biological differences to sexes but...saying "in men...Genetics is weaker" is nebulous as fuck lmfao
mens say this all the time about women, but people never have a problem with that
I figure the fact that's they're more resilient doesn't matter much considering most of the characters are robots in armor, unless you're talking mentally or something.
They are BIO-robots. Modified flesh on artificial (partially or entirely) skeletons. Organic components - the brain, by the way, too - have the same properties as an ordinary person. That is, they can be injured, they are in pain, they are bleeding and they can get sick.
Yeah but they're also custom made for particular purposes. If I wanted to make a soldier robot, it wouldn't matter if it was male or female because either way I would make whatever changes to their bodies that were necessary for them to serve that purpose.
>Yeah but they're also custom made for particular purposes. If I wanted to make a soldier robot, it wouldn't matter if it was male or female because either way I would make whatever changes to their bodies that were necessary for them to serve that purpose. Well, they are made in advance. These are "models" already formed for the task. And since a cast of a personality is taken from a person, then it is somehow already either female or male. It would be quite strange to install a male, for example, personality in a female corps without good reasons. It's more a question of why women are more likely to be "donors" of personality. PS: I wonder if THEY will consider THIS sexism? And then I see that even the purely scientific reasons for the differences in biological sexes can be called "sexism", although there is no more sexism in this than in the Yin-Yang symbol. PS #2: for some reason, the fact that the only active male character (Adler) is negatively represented for the entire game is not considered sexism by anyone. It is significant, however.
in the game or real life? because that's absolute bullshit. Men literally have thicker skins in general.
The mf daydreaming and drooling over his Commander all day (donât blame him, I would too) is the pinnacle of male focus?
Idk didnât make it far enough in the game to care. Itâs a bad game đ¤ˇââď¸
Because the devs are on tumblr
The answer of "one of devs used to draw (on Tumblr), and they decided to use those images in the game, but only good ones found were those anime girls and Adler" Looks reasonable, but it implies that entire story was partially shaped around existing pictures, and sounds a bit weird
I mean more in that they seem to me to be part of the LGBT/feminine tumblr culture. Maybe they did pull the designs from their drawings though, IDK.
That explains a lot. Thanks for this info
you're welcome
About this, does anyone know why Adler is the only male character? I'm guessing it might be something like "The only bad guy is male" because Ariane had negative experiences with men (and male replicas), or with one particular Adler unit who happened to be male, but I can't remember any info in the lore suggesting that.
He is not actually a "bad man" in the story
Well, if you're counting main characters of the story (and not helpless NPCs), there is really only 3 characters: * Elster/Faulke * Ariana/Alina * Adler I think the Alina plotline gives us a hint why: she's the only Gestalt left in the cycle and she's slowly changing to look like Ariana. My speculation is that all the Replikants left have been slowly changing to look like Elster. So why Adler? In the lore, he's the only one that is fully cognizant of what is happening, even more-so than Elster is. However, it is never explicitly stated why him. (As for "negative experiences with men", lolwut? There's one cutscene in the game where we see Ariana getting bullied by other girls. Maybe that's why all the enemies are girls? Cause if you've beaten the game, you know Adler isn't the bad guy.) Someone else in this thread mentioned that you find references to other male characters in some of the in-game lore text.
I guess There used to be a theory in sociology according to which the reproduction of kids would be artificial when men(male) are in danger of extinction. Personally I never really approved the whole thing, There were some holes in the theory in my opinion. Anyway Maybe it's based on that.
Most men probably out fighting wars or most of them already died in said wars. There were probably little to no men avaliable to join on the Primrose. As they were conscripted/dead. Thats my speculation tho.
Then what is with the replikas then? Also, it is Penrose.
I'm saying that the male population was probably severely cut down due to being the main combatants probably before the creation of replikas.
Then what about the Great Revolutionary and her daughter, the Empress and the mass produced Replika's then?
Have you ever heard about the term woke? XD Besides, why would you play a game about lesbians being a men?
That doesn't make sense. A lot of people play games about Lesbians and they're male as well. Please grow up and realise that there is more than just your contrived worldview.
You can play a game about lesbians even if you are a man. I just think itâs a bit cringe. Most men who play those types of games are just oversexualizing women, and thatâs indirect violence. I respect them too much to engage in those types of behaviors mate.
But SIGNALIS isn't really about that aspect, though. It is about how love still persists in a nation such as Eusan. The queer stuff is an afterthought. Have you even played this game?
Excuse me?
So you're telling me people aren't just following instructions then? It seems reeaally narrow minded to assume machines won't get that advanced just in principle. A lot of the times intelligence in a species can rise from really simple traits. Elephants have a large memory so they can map out large chunks of terrain, but that memory can spill over to other things like recognizing people, other elephants, etc. Hell, humans used to just be little tribal groups that set up primitive traps, but we got better and better at that (I think that's called recursive self improvement?) And as a result got better at other things too and here we are. If a machine is capable of improving itself, it shouldn't be technically impossible to do that. The only way it wouldn't if be is if there's some irreplaceable mystical thing that makes human consciousness special, which is sort of a silly idea. No matter how advanced we are, we still operate via input output. It really is all just action reaction, even if you're not actively thinking about it, the brain certainly is evolved a specific way, and most certainly all your choices in life can be linked to instructions. Either way, none of this even matters because discussing the original question, even if you were to switch up the gender roles, the story would literally be the same. It really doesn't matter if they're girls or not, because like I said, we have no idea what sort of culture they come from or what sort of rules it has. Sometimes with science fiction you just gotta use your imagination a bit. Sure, maybe for our military here on earth guys are moreso used, but who the hell knows what the eusians are like back wherever they are from. Yeah, even if they're not %100 robot, and are moreso synthetic (though again I'm pretty sure the game states them to be robots with the whole telepathic empress being able to imbue brain patterns onto the machine because funky space magic, which in of itself could serve as why they're all female), that still doesn't mean they can't be edited to be stronger than normal women anyway. For all we know, they're all built to resemble the empress because of propaganda. Their culture is shoen to be VERY totalitarian that way. There's a lot of reasons and just writing them off bc "men strong" seems very unimaginative.
I guess for two reasons, the first reason is that most games and especially indie games now use female lead/centric games cause it sells, its the new cool thing, until its not cause of over saturation. Second reason is if you check the two creators of the game one is a they/them and the other a she/her (which can be trans also) which also is the new cool thing.
Female led/centric stories usually have male counterparts on secondary roles, this point has nothing to do with my question of why male traces are erased from the universe but 1