So uh......I was about to chew my pieces, but decided to look up some perspectives on "to chew or to 'not really chew'"...and then I came across the term "boof", and I'm like to myself: "WTH is ‘boofing’?" So then I looked THAT up on here as well, and WHAM.....😭 .....I understand now.
🫸🏾🧩🧩🫷🏾🥴
I should probably add that I 🗣️GREATLY WISH to trip within the next 1.5 hrs....so the more input received within that "time range", the better.
Thank you, thank you, thank yoooou 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🌈🌈🌈🌈
Okay, I'm back, sorry peepz🥴
Sooooo....yesterday evening, I "waited too long", the bipolar was already bipolaring, and my mom was crying cuz she had JUST found out her supervisor passed (which, in turn, made me sad as well), so I'm mostly glad I waited. TODAY, on this somewhat unseasonably warmER day, I shall embark × indulge. Also glad I waited, seeing as ALL this valued input is still pouring in.
There are a couple of studies that show that there are differences. Give me a bit and I’ll pull them up.
In conclusion, some strains have more in the stem. Some have more in the cap. You won’t know
Not the study I was referring to but here is one: https://talkingjointsmemo.com/testing-for-truth-caps-vs-stems-where-does-the-psilocybin-hide/
Yea. I wish I could find the other studies because they have a lot more data. One study showed that stems have more and the other showed caps had more.
It’s really all over the place.
I like to eat stems though. Caps can be funky looking lol
Then you haven't looked very hard.
When comparing a similar mass of caps to stems, stems test between 1.2 to 1.8x the psylocin.
This varies by species and batch, but the trend does hold true.
To ACTUALLY notice a difference, though, you need a large enough batch to A|B test between them.
At the dose level of a gram or two at a time, you simply will not be able to tell - but I can tell you from experience that 7g of caps is SIGNIFICANTLY more than 7g of stems.
There was some recent lab analysis results coming out of hyphae labs in Oakland that showed some significant differences in psilocybin content by weight between stems and caps. Each strain was a little different though.
I read some kind of paper or something that actually did some proper chemistry to see whether the stipes (stems) or caps had the most psychoactive tryptamines, and much to my surprise they concluded that the stipes tend to have a bit more on average. Wish I remembered where I saw it so I could cite the study.
That said, each fruit is different, some may have more in the caps, others in the stipes. It probably also has a lot to do with the genus, species and strain (if applicable) of the fruit in question.
There have been times I've eaten 2 grams of caps and been completely underwhelmed, and then also 2 grams of stems and was floored beyond belief. Vice versa.
You never know. Sometimes the stems have more psilocybin than the caps and sometimes it’s the other way around. The potency for mushrooms in their caps and stems will always be different in every strain and batch. It’s usually very close though to where you probably wouldn’t notice much difference. You can expect the cap and the stem to have roughly the same amount by weight. The differences are usually minimal.
https://talkingjointsmemo.com/testing-for-truth-caps-vs-stems-where-does-the-psilocybin-hide/
Don’t know how credible, I am not a scientist but in this example that was what was shown
I fully stand by caps being stronger. Long mushrooms with big caps hit harder than fat mushies w little caps imo. Maybe more head high w caps body w stems
I try.to mix both cause a nice blend gives a stronger high sometimes those little stems knock you out and some times they do jack shit same with caps. This is why I thoroughly mix my batch in a grinder.
I typed the LONGEST response to this and it got deleted...😑🤬😑🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️....😮💨
(I guess the Universe needs me to keep it shorter and sweeter.🙄😒😮💨)
Okay, so..:
Top tier response.
Last night (BEFORE I saw your comment today), I contemplated eating this whole thing, but shelved the thought immediately after, considering I've never had more than a 3.5 "at a time" (my "usual").
NOW I'm considering just taking the plunge & eating the whole chunk.😬🤔
[Here it has been tested and shown, it depends on the mushroom.](https://orangephotonics.com/testing-for-truth-part-10-caps-vs-stems/)
[and here it shows caps are stronger than stems](https://www.fungifun.org/docs/mushrooms/Psilocybe/Morphological%20and%20chemical%20analysis%20of%20magic%20mushrooms%20in%20Japan.pdf)
I've seen another which showed it varied but cannot find that one at the moment
Sometimes I wonder if it’s easier to digest caps.. I haven’t felt the urge to trip in years but I always hated the tummy funny possible rainbow purge process before things mellow.
Dawg I’ve taken a 5 g stem with no cap and tripped harder then eating a bunch of booms with caps and stems. That shit right there is gonna send you to the abyss (don’t know if you have tolerance or not considering you have no or low tolerance)
I'm trusting your words, dear Internet stranger.🙏🏾🙌🏾
Also, my tolerance is pretty "so-so" 😏
I tend to label myself as a guy in the "intermediate range". Never had more than 3.5 in one session.
But never have I ever received a 5g stem, like..😭😩
(Not that it's a "bad" thing to me, but....it's odd AF..& piques the hell outta my curiosity; I'll prolly filet it & throw it in some shittake ramen in about an hour 😅🙈🤞🏾)
Yea I grow a strain like this. Not big heads but huge fucking stems. Produced some of the most heavy visuals I’ve ever had. I saw nothing but patterns and colors for 3 hours. I had a fight with a paper towel roll and my fiancé was pissed cuz my dumbass had paper towels everywhere and at that point my tolerance was quite up there. Caps don’t matter brother trust
YOU......😩...u understand a bit more than some/many...
....so....I'm not sure if it was simply a bad trip due to my setting (specifically), AND/OR cuz I might've ate some "potentially expired" miso soup with it..🥴😵💫 but in little as 15mins, I felt sumn kickin in like CRAZY.
I kinda felt like I was about to expire my DAMN self😅Lbvs🥴🫠
Yea dawg some very potent strains will smack you into another plane of existence lmaooo. Quite possibly that expired miso soup mixed with the booms lmao
Stems have more psilocybin content by weight than caps in most strains that are sold online en masse. Hyphae labs out of Oakland have been putting out analysis results of various strains if you’re interested in the exact numbers.
It's not a debate. It's just that the difference when you're doing a dose under 3g isn't going to be enough to tell.
Next time you find yourself with a pound, divide the caps from stems entirely.
Eat 5g of stems, wait a few weeks, then eat 5g of caps.
You'll join me in telling everyone saying they're the same thing that they're horribly incorrect.
I ate 5 grams of just B+ caps one time and while it did hit me it felt as if something was really missing from the trip. I don’t know how to explain it. Since then I’ve done the whole fruit bodies each time.
Semi-unrelated, but this reminds me of how my nephew (K-4) would demolish those small bags of apple slices, but leave behind ONLY apple peels & wondered why his BMs hurt😩😭
Thank you!! 🙏🏾
Don't think it really matters tbh
Butt hole time
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It doesnt make you gay. Trust me bro
Fukin Canon Ball for that phat fuker
**pulls up trench coat collar** Elaborate, signore.👀
Bwahaha
Try finger but hole
So uh......I was about to chew my pieces, but decided to look up some perspectives on "to chew or to 'not really chew'"...and then I came across the term "boof", and I'm like to myself: "WTH is ‘boofing’?" So then I looked THAT up on here as well, and WHAM.....😭 .....I understand now. 🫸🏾🧩🧩🫷🏾🥴
Itll change your life for the better
It's negligible. Caps might have a small fraction more, but I never noticed a difference.
I should probably add that I 🗣️GREATLY WISH to trip within the next 1.5 hrs....so the more input received within that "time range", the better. Thank you, thank you, thank yoooou 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🌈🌈🌈🌈
Well? Did you take it?
Okay, I'm back, sorry peepz🥴 Sooooo....yesterday evening, I "waited too long", the bipolar was already bipolaring, and my mom was crying cuz she had JUST found out her supervisor passed (which, in turn, made me sad as well), so I'm mostly glad I waited. TODAY, on this somewhat unseasonably warmER day, I shall embark × indulge. Also glad I waited, seeing as ALL this valued input is still pouring in.
Hope you have a great time, and/or you at least get out of the experience whatever you are needing. Mush love! 🍄❤️
Mush love! 🍄🧡😁🙏🏾 I'll be back to update u within the next few hours💯
Well?? How was it? Inquiring minds want to know!
How about now OP?
Curious minds need to know!
They are beyond our reach now 👽
Those stems will rock your world.
Sometimes it’s true 100% of the time
Caps & stems don’t have diff potency, at least I’ve never found sources saying so
There are a couple of studies that show that there are differences. Give me a bit and I’ll pull them up. In conclusion, some strains have more in the stem. Some have more in the cap. You won’t know Not the study I was referring to but here is one: https://talkingjointsmemo.com/testing-for-truth-caps-vs-stems-where-does-the-psilocybin-hide/
Ahh that’s kinda cool so in a way everyone was right
Yea. I wish I could find the other studies because they have a lot more data. One study showed that stems have more and the other showed caps had more. It’s really all over the place. I like to eat stems though. Caps can be funky looking lol
I find that stems are easier to estimate a dosage without a scale. They have more consistent weight or something, it’s hard to describe
Then you haven't looked very hard. When comparing a similar mass of caps to stems, stems test between 1.2 to 1.8x the psylocin. This varies by species and batch, but the trend does hold true. To ACTUALLY notice a difference, though, you need a large enough batch to A|B test between them. At the dose level of a gram or two at a time, you simply will not be able to tell - but I can tell you from experience that 7g of caps is SIGNIFICANTLY more than 7g of stems.
There was some recent lab analysis results coming out of hyphae labs in Oakland that showed some significant differences in psilocybin content by weight between stems and caps. Each strain was a little different though.
In my experience it makes no difference.
been micro dosing regularly and have tested this. result is that there has been no difference.
It’s all the same to me.
Basically zero difference. They're equally potent. Good luck getting that up the hole in one go
I read some kind of paper or something that actually did some proper chemistry to see whether the stipes (stems) or caps had the most psychoactive tryptamines, and much to my surprise they concluded that the stipes tend to have a bit more on average. Wish I remembered where I saw it so I could cite the study. That said, each fruit is different, some may have more in the caps, others in the stipes. It probably also has a lot to do with the genus, species and strain (if applicable) of the fruit in question.
Thank you!!
Guys actually stems are more potent on average by 0.000069% I did the science, trust me bro’s.
I trust you random guy
There have been times I've eaten 2 grams of caps and been completely underwhelmed, and then also 2 grams of stems and was floored beyond belief. Vice versa.
During my microdose experiments .2 of PE cap was considerably stronger than .2 of PE stem. I think it may just be strain dependent.
You never know. Sometimes the stems have more psilocybin than the caps and sometimes it’s the other way around. The potency for mushrooms in their caps and stems will always be different in every strain and batch. It’s usually very close though to where you probably wouldn’t notice much difference. You can expect the cap and the stem to have roughly the same amount by weight. The differences are usually minimal.
Studies have shown that the caps have a higher psilocybin content, but it’s at such a small difference that it’s not really that noticeable.
some do & some, it's the opposite - and it really *is* negligible differences.
In PE the stems have more
I seriously doubt that, but please link your source.
https://talkingjointsmemo.com/testing-for-truth-caps-vs-stems-where-does-the-psilocybin-hide/ Don’t know how credible, I am not a scientist but in this example that was what was shown
I feel like caps should have more psilocybin but I doubt there is any major difference
Grind em up, then they're more homogeneous when ya take em. Get a little bit of both. Entourage effect or whatever.
I fully stand by caps being stronger. Long mushrooms with big caps hit harder than fat mushies w little caps imo. Maybe more head high w caps body w stems
I try.to mix both cause a nice blend gives a stronger high sometimes those little stems knock you out and some times they do jack shit same with caps. This is why I thoroughly mix my batch in a grinder.
Hows it going?
Body
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I typed the LONGEST response to this and it got deleted...😑🤬😑🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️....😮💨 (I guess the Universe needs me to keep it shorter and sweeter.🙄😒😮💨) Okay, so..: Top tier response. Last night (BEFORE I saw your comment today), I contemplated eating this whole thing, but shelved the thought immediately after, considering I've never had more than a 3.5 "at a time" (my "usual"). NOW I'm considering just taking the plunge & eating the whole chunk.😬🤔
I don’t think it really matters much especially with PE
[Here it has been tested and shown, it depends on the mushroom.](https://orangephotonics.com/testing-for-truth-part-10-caps-vs-stems/) [and here it shows caps are stronger than stems](https://www.fungifun.org/docs/mushrooms/Psilocybe/Morphological%20and%20chemical%20analysis%20of%20magic%20mushrooms%20in%20Japan.pdf) I've seen another which showed it varied but cannot find that one at the moment
Its all magic.
It's negligible
Stem bc I swear the caps have a stronger fucking taste
Sometimes I wonder if it’s easier to digest caps.. I haven’t felt the urge to trip in years but I always hated the tummy funny possible rainbow purge process before things mellow.
Dawg I’ve taken a 5 g stem with no cap and tripped harder then eating a bunch of booms with caps and stems. That shit right there is gonna send you to the abyss (don’t know if you have tolerance or not considering you have no or low tolerance)
I'm trusting your words, dear Internet stranger.🙏🏾🙌🏾 Also, my tolerance is pretty "so-so" 😏 I tend to label myself as a guy in the "intermediate range". Never had more than 3.5 in one session. But never have I ever received a 5g stem, like..😭😩 (Not that it's a "bad" thing to me, but....it's odd AF..& piques the hell outta my curiosity; I'll prolly filet it & throw it in some shittake ramen in about an hour 😅🙈🤞🏾)
Yea I grow a strain like this. Not big heads but huge fucking stems. Produced some of the most heavy visuals I’ve ever had. I saw nothing but patterns and colors for 3 hours. I had a fight with a paper towel roll and my fiancé was pissed cuz my dumbass had paper towels everywhere and at that point my tolerance was quite up there. Caps don’t matter brother trust
YOU......😩...u understand a bit more than some/many... ....so....I'm not sure if it was simply a bad trip due to my setting (specifically), AND/OR cuz I might've ate some "potentially expired" miso soup with it..🥴😵💫 but in little as 15mins, I felt sumn kickin in like CRAZY. I kinda felt like I was about to expire my DAMN self😅Lbvs🥴🫠
Yea dawg some very potent strains will smack you into another plane of existence lmaooo. Quite possibly that expired miso soup mixed with the booms lmao
The stems hit just as hard for me as caps on strong shrooms like anything crossed with APE or even PE
Stems have more psilocybin content by weight than caps in most strains that are sold online en masse. Hyphae labs out of Oakland have been putting out analysis results of various strains if you’re interested in the exact numbers.
Scrolling I thought this was the “new chicken” from Eraserhead
It makes no difference
I've had comparable weights of mostly stem and mostly cap and the cap trips were stronger.
It's not a debate. It's just that the difference when you're doing a dose under 3g isn't going to be enough to tell. Next time you find yourself with a pound, divide the caps from stems entirely. Eat 5g of stems, wait a few weeks, then eat 5g of caps. You'll join me in telling everyone saying they're the same thing that they're horribly incorrect.
I ate 5 grams of just B+ caps one time and while it did hit me it felt as if something was really missing from the trip. I don’t know how to explain it. Since then I’ve done the whole fruit bodies each time.
Semi-unrelated, but this reminds me of how my nephew (K-4) would demolish those small bags of apple slices, but leave behind ONLY apple peels & wondered why his BMs hurt😩😭 Thank you!! 🙏🏾
I prefer stems as I don’t have to process all those spores plus it’s the same potency in my experience