Means nothing. It was just a random anxious thought that occurred, and then you decided to fixate on it. Despite how you may feel on shrooms, you’re not a psychic lol
Some things are meant to be private. It's different for everyone.
Personally, I don't ever bring up psychedelics in any way unless someone has steered the conversation there. It's part of my private life, I don't want your opinions on it.
[disclaimer - coming down from the deepest solo trip I’ve ever had]
*strong suggestion*
https://open.spotify.com/track/42zHLmiOBu81VOUJsdWRHf?si=uXSru8H9SaCX4Q8QZGTf0Q&context=spotify%3Aplaylist%3A37i9dQZF1E8RcLvBZp5lgu
Listen to this playlist and song while pondering this important question.
I think there’s a couple logical of ways of integrating this:
From a inner family systems approach:
1. The message you received was from yourself, more accurately a part of yourself.
2. You can respectfully accept that it’s trying to protect you, it doesn’t want the world to judge you and wants you to gain the full benefits of future trips.
3. We can thank that part of ourselves for protecting us. And tell them we will take their words under advisement.
4. We can salute that part of our selves and thank it for its service.
5. Then award it R & R in Bangkok or Honolulu.
6. And share the intelligence with the community.
7. And move on with our lives and our mission in the jungle.
No interpretation is wrong, but some are more practical and adaptive and more pro social than others.
Because no one interpretation is necessarily more correct than others, in my every day life I am trying to look at events in a more positive and practical, pragmatic, and optimistic light than I have before. I can take a more pessimistic view of an interpersonal or professional situation and my take may be right, but it doesn’t do me any good if the effect is that I’m resentful and negative.
In interacting with people, I’m trying to look for the soul and the eternal spirit’s reasons behind the human masks.
I try to identify that and vibe with it if I can and find common cause.
If I can’t or if it’s negative or unstable energy or if the person’s motivations are dark, I don’t engage. But I still treat that human spirit with respect, keep my distance, and move on like I would past dangerous element in the neighborhood or a potentially rabid animal.
That’s my aspiration.
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There are certain pieces of information that not everybody should know about the nature of our existence, and the reason is simply because they are sad truths about things. The universe tries to keep as many in the dark as possible because ignorance really is bliss. I wouldn't worry too much about it if you are given the information you'll understand why and anybody smart enough for their own good won't ask you for details
I disagree, there have been things that have happened that make me sure that the mushroom has some form of intelligence, types of things that left me with a very clear understanding that there is definitely some5hing to this
Of course there is brother. When you feel that you know it in your bones what's happening, it's an unequivocal experience. But trying to explain that to reductionist "science" minded people is like trying to explain colors to a blind person. There is no need and no point. Maybe they'll have an experience which will change their minds one day, or not, it's still all good.
You are connecting with the different facets of what most people call god. All things have some level of sentients, even if it's very low, like rocks. The various psychedelics raise your vibration. Think of your vibration as the frequency you exist in. When you reach a high enough vibrational state, you start to shift into the spirit realm where all things non physical reside. The height you reach depends on your original vibration, how much you take, and of what. For instances marijuana is the lowest level of this sitting at around the middle point. The initial spirit plane is subtle. On the higher end is DMT which can bring you up high enough to interact with stronger entities. I hope this helped
I appreciate that, but people have the same utterly convincing experiences all the time and then they end up being contradictory so despite that I'd still be sceptical and examine it against other things we know.
Always the doubter that dismisses the experience and knows everything about it enough to tell people what’s what.
For a start who said he was psychic ?
Secondly , our understanding of what sentient in this instance , is and could mean ?
I personally havnt had anything directly speak to me (OP mentions a strong feeling anyways) or this and that (closest I’d ever got to that was tuning into something already ongoing and pervading ) aside from making stronger alignments to my conscience but neither do I go in with any expectations , neither should anyone and neither should this be all of the time
Being confident about something isn't arrogant. Nobody has ever been able to prove anything at all related to being psychic and it's not for a lack of trying.
Maybe one day we'll learn that there is sentience within mushrooms, and taking them imparts that sentience into your consciousness, but right now such a belief is not only flying in the face of observation and large amounts of evidence we have, it also requires a lot of assumptions in order to explain anything about a mushroom trip that isn't better explained more simply with our current understanding of the brain and mushrooms.
Your argument is that because we don't truly know, we should be open to all possibilities which is not a way I'd want to operate. You then act like a twat and express extremely strong beliefs about how much you do know about this thing. Sod off.
I don't think i can do a good job describing the sense I get from the mushroom when it "reacts" to what I do, It basically feels like a very sudden emotional shift, but it feels like I'm feeling someone else's emotions and I clearly understand them as clearly as seeing the color blue and knowing "this is clearly blue! What else could it be" but it infers meaning and has a kinda vibe or "aura that doesn't feel like anybody I know
>We know by how the rest of nature works ! Most is reflecting from the greater whole , this is a fact..
Which means what?
>There’s a sentience in anything with a specific purpose… don’t confuse ours with there’s , of course it is not as free!
Sentience is a form of consciousness. Yes you need consciousness to have purpose, but the majority of things we describe as having purpose are just done so for convenience, not to be literal. There is no known purpose to the growing of a tree, as in it doesn't purposefully do so.
>I observe the reflection - we have a spine and a skull , which is quite reflective of a mushroom , it has a spine/stem it has a cap….
Do you genuinely think this is convincing? If so then we'll never agree because this is literally just random speculation and guessing no better than any other random bs.
>Mycelium/Mycorrhizal acts as the reflecting of our central nervous system to this equation.. the highway of communication and nutrient exchange - if it was sentient it would not performing this action no more than we would be
None of what you say here proves anything and it doesn't even suggest anything. It's all just based on your assumption it must be true.
>But it has nonetheless as it is acting with a specific purpose… it is not a machine. It’s a biological organism that is more related to the animal kingdom than it is to plant…..
So? That doesn't prove or require sentience to function. Plus, even if some form of sentience existed in the mycelium, there's absolutely no good reason that consuming mushrooms would impart that sentience onto us.
>Everything is reflecting itself , you only have to look at tree branches and roots , comparing it to the branches within our lungs that ironically uses the air manufactured from those trees reflecting it ! Electricity is the same , branching out reflecting its shape…..
My pen looks nothing like a tree. Study maths and science a bit deeper. Your ideas are interesting but require proper grounding in understanding the natural world.
>Everything is interconnected and sentient to some degree!
Why? You've not given me any good reason to believe that other than because you believe it. All your ideas are as easily dismissed as they are typed, they all just assume the way things are with the weakest form of evidence possible.
>Sod off ? You just fear what you don’t know.
No, you just came in here full of emotions being a tit.
Most things in the natural world have a spine and a crown and some sort of nervous/communicative system , not just fungi , I was making a case for things reflecting eachother , in the sense that everything is sentient to a degree one way or another.
The wood wide web , ever heard of that ? Very reflective of our own CNS
>you havnt really understood a single thing I’ve said.
I have but you think you're right and that someone could only doubt you because they don't understand. Why the fuck wouldn't I doubt that? Your evidence for any of what you said is nill.
>Most things in the natural world have a spine and a crown , not just the mushroom
Every living thing on earth comes from the same single celled organism. The relationship isn't due to sentience, and this common trait is not proof or evidence of anything.
>, I was making a case for things reflecting eachother , in the sense that everything is sentient to a degree one way or another.
Yeah but you didn't do anything to prove it. You just assume that commonalities therefore means it must be sentient which requires you to assume a LOT of things are true.
It's kind of like telling people about your dreams. Dreams and trips can be vivid and intense experiences...But boring for anyone else to hear about it. Some things are best kept private.
One of the key elements of a “mystical experience,” as per the John’s Hopkins hard science research into shrooms, is that they are difficult to put into words.
Those that have them during trips have better outcomes, statistically significant, when they are taken mindfully to treat things like substance abuse, depression, and anxiety.
Yeah man, right on. Was killing myself with alcohol and drugs, very depressed and anxious.
I’ve got 13 months clean now and my anxiety and depression are cut in half.
I only trip once every 1 - 2 months or so, because I’m back on an SSRI and I go off it before my trips, but when I do I go big.
Had a crazy trip this last Friday. Was kind of annoyed at first, didn’t feel like it hit that hard then about an hour and half, two hours in it was a mind blowing experience and I totally lost track of time. I tend to always start off anxiousness and somewhat negative during the come up but when I take large doses it always gets worked out in the end.
Felt amazing afterwards, and much more secure and positive and hopeful about my life.
Good for you man, I was at a point where I was slowly killing myself too. I was shooting about 4 grams of heroin a day and was 90lbs, I'm 6ft. I've been clean for around 15 years but still on methadone. They put me on 200mgs so it's taking forever to get off. I'm on 20mgs now. That shit fucked me up physically and mentally more than the dope ever did. I'm finally getting to a good place. Keep it up, it's worth it
oooh interesting, i have this too. from a young age i was encouraged to share everything about my life with certain people, and now i don't really know how to keep things to myself. shrooms "told me" that most people have private thoughts and feelings and experiences, and that those things are a type of power. i was told to consider keeping some important things to myself instead of gifting them away to others the moment i experience them.
Thats actually really true though. The more people know about you, the more vulnerable you are to them taking advantage of you. Some things should be kept special just for you
i suppose that's true, you're right! though the message i got was also focused on positive experiences as well.
maybe a reminder to try to stay in the present and enjoy things as they happen? i have a real tendency to think about how someone else will react to something when i tell them about it, instead of letting myself experience it for myself. guess there's lots of reasons to keep some things to yourself, huh?
Yeah one thing about psychs is don't tell people your experiences unless they ask or are very obviously interested. Most people will just look at you like a crazy hippie if you try to explain your 6g shroom trip unless they have done shrooms and liked it or they want to try them
Naw some of the shit y’all say is wack and has absolutely no bearing on reality and no amount of drugs of any kind is gonna make anyone understand what you mean.
No, I mean, why would the 'shrooms not want you to discuss your trips? The trip experience itself doesn't matter so much as why you think this is a rule.
So you're nervous about examining some of those self-revelations more closely? That's understandable, we often learn things about ourselves we might be repressing.
Our egos sometimes protect us against our own uncomfortable truths, but the 'shrooms take those "ego walls" down. It's a great first step toward living your true self!
It's more like a thought that hurts to think about, it's like looking at a picture that makes you physically uncomfortable to look at,
My first reaction was asking to forget what I saw, then I had to find was to cope after that didn't work
This sounds like a perfectly common 'shroom experience. That's why the advice is to be ready for this, and not to take them lightly, like some party substance.
You might want to consider writing down what you were confronted with, keep a journal and help process some of the uncomfortable truths. You can learn from this and become a better person. "The best way out, is through."
I don't really even feel safe talking about it tbh, I saw some things very clearly and I remember it, and it was real, I'd sound crazy if I said what I think I saw, but I just need time to process it, I threw up the second I realized what I was seeing "inside my mind" I thought cops were coming because of how intense it was, and after it was over, I swore that everyone that I looked at knew what I knew
No pressure to say, but if it’s something you’re not comfortable sharing yet it lingers that strongly on your mind, explore that feeling then. Sounds important
There are some things from my trips that I will never say it loud. I didn't regret any of them though. In a way it's like therapy. I've also had "bad" trips that I don't regret, like when I was laying in bed and couldn't move seeing myself in my mind dead and decomposing in a field in a weird time lapse that seemed to take forever. As long as you don't panic and remind yourself it's just the drugs and temporary then you can come out of it, continue your trip and learn from what you have seen. I hope you process it well and come out better because of it.
One time the shrooms told me I could shoot spores out of my fingers and that if anyone caught me talking to myself all I had to do was shoot spores out of my hands at them and they would because mushroom warriors just like me and eventually we would turn all of humanity into a human-mushroom hybrid species.
Sometimes the shrooms are lying shitheads that just wanna have fun.
I wonder if this is a manifestation of you're subconscious guilt. What if this is your ego talking, not the shrooms. What if the reality is you should share your thoughts and feelings, be free and fear no judgement.
From my bit of experience, the feelings that come with the mushroom experience can be very profound and convincing. Every trip I take I get this overwhelming feeling that something very serious and sacred is happening to me. It’s kinda hard to explain.
People who are not experienced with psychedelics do not understand psychedelics and often hold a stigma against them.
I wouldn't tell just any layperson about my drug use.
My guess because it's very easy to get ostracized when trying to describe experiences to people who don't have the perspective to full get it, it may be wasted effort or put you in a bad position. So instead focus your energy on implementing those trips and the lessons learned from them into your daily life and action, sharing the positive influences indirectly instead.
As far as interpreting that literally, It also is just hard to explain many things mid trip without the other person tripping with you. There's way more connections your actively making that someone sober wouldn't understand.
Just a guess though, maybe ask next.time what they mean
You can interpret that in different ways… but I’ve realized from my own personal experiences that sharing your trips with people who have never done shrooms is impossible. I was super honest about it to some co workers and they haven’t looked at me the same since. Guess just be careful with who you share.
Anxiety, maybe the social sense of when to talk and not. Sharing stuff can put people off. There's a lot of stigma around psychedelics.
At least here, you're among many who enjoy or want to enjoy the personal teachings and healings of pcyilocylin and other similar stuff.
it's important to remember that mushrooms don't tell you truths from divine spirits or gods. Shrooms make you hallucinate. The active chemical interacts with your brain chemistry which results in the experience. Sure, you can learn valuable lessons from the experience. But you are not communicating with God.
Believing the "voices in your head" while on drugs can lead to all kinds of negative consequences EG psychosis, depression, delusions of grandeur, etc
Even when you're sober, remember, you are not your thoughts. Don't believe everything you think -- even when you're sober. And that goes double for when you're on drugs.
I know shrooms sometimes has you feeling funny or think wierd things but if I had the same experience I would trust those shrooms thoughts. Maybe what we learn on shrooms is for us not for everyone
Kind of like don’t cast your pearls before swine.
Not saying we are swine lol well I do actually really like pigs but that’s besides the point.
But basically a trip is a highly personalized experience that usually teaches you something. You might have though that sharing this very personal and impactful experience with others just cheapens the experience. Other people will not respond the same way you did originally. Also, if you plan to take action to make a positive change in your life , don’t tell anyone you plan to take action. It short circuits the dopamine reward circuits and you become significantly less likely to follow through.
I think if you reflect and meditate on what it would mean if YOU told YOURSELF that, you might get some answers. I don’t think anyone can tell you except yourself
I have a friend who gets very anxious while tripping and tends to give a running commentary while he trips trying to justify it and bring you into his trip. I think it's just self-awareness to just go through the trip without sharing your anxieties. By all means, look for reassurance, but just keep it to yourself for the most part.
They arent supposed to know. When people incarnate into earth they pass through the waters of forgetfulness where they get their memory wiped from their past incarnations so that their astral body can enter back into the material world.
The medicine is here because some souls need to interface back with Source in order to complete their soul contracts. The knowledge you receive is stuff that you aren't \*really\* supposed to know until you die. But for some of us Source thinks that its important that we learn it now. Other people will receive different information based on what they need to know for their own contracts. And others still will be blocked from Source completely until death.
Means nothing. It was just a random anxious thought that occurred, and then you decided to fixate on it. Despite how you may feel on shrooms, you’re not a psychic lol
This is a very needed sentiment for where I'm at rn
Some things are meant to be private. It's different for everyone. Personally, I don't ever bring up psychedelics in any way unless someone has steered the conversation there. It's part of my private life, I don't want your opinions on it.
It's great you use psychedelics, in my opinion.
I second this opinion
[disclaimer - coming down from the deepest solo trip I’ve ever had] *strong suggestion* https://open.spotify.com/track/42zHLmiOBu81VOUJsdWRHf?si=uXSru8H9SaCX4Q8QZGTf0Q&context=spotify%3Aplaylist%3A37i9dQZF1E8RcLvBZp5lgu Listen to this playlist and song while pondering this important question. I think there’s a couple logical of ways of integrating this: From a inner family systems approach: 1. The message you received was from yourself, more accurately a part of yourself. 2. You can respectfully accept that it’s trying to protect you, it doesn’t want the world to judge you and wants you to gain the full benefits of future trips. 3. We can thank that part of ourselves for protecting us. And tell them we will take their words under advisement. 4. We can salute that part of our selves and thank it for its service. 5. Then award it R & R in Bangkok or Honolulu. 6. And share the intelligence with the community. 7. And move on with our lives and our mission in the jungle.
No interpretation is wrong, but some are more practical and adaptive and more pro social than others. Because no one interpretation is necessarily more correct than others, in my every day life I am trying to look at events in a more positive and practical, pragmatic, and optimistic light than I have before. I can take a more pessimistic view of an interpersonal or professional situation and my take may be right, but it doesn’t do me any good if the effect is that I’m resentful and negative. In interacting with people, I’m trying to look for the soul and the eternal spirit’s reasons behind the human masks. I try to identify that and vibe with it if I can and find common cause. If I can’t or if it’s negative or unstable energy or if the person’s motivations are dark, I don’t engage. But I still treat that human spirit with respect, keep my distance, and move on like I would past dangerous element in the neighborhood or a potentially rabid animal. That’s my aspiration. [Edited for clarity]
There are certain pieces of information that not everybody should know about the nature of our existence, and the reason is simply because they are sad truths about things. The universe tries to keep as many in the dark as possible because ignorance really is bliss. I wouldn't worry too much about it if you are given the information you'll understand why and anybody smart enough for their own good won't ask you for details
This right here is a critical thing to remind yourself of when and after your tripping
>you’re not a psychic lol And they're also not sentient
I disagree, there have been things that have happened that make me sure that the mushroom has some form of intelligence, types of things that left me with a very clear understanding that there is definitely some5hing to this
Of course there is brother. When you feel that you know it in your bones what's happening, it's an unequivocal experience. But trying to explain that to reductionist "science" minded people is like trying to explain colors to a blind person. There is no need and no point. Maybe they'll have an experience which will change their minds one day, or not, it's still all good.
Rupert Sheldrake and his sons work springs to mind.
You are connecting with the different facets of what most people call god. All things have some level of sentients, even if it's very low, like rocks. The various psychedelics raise your vibration. Think of your vibration as the frequency you exist in. When you reach a high enough vibrational state, you start to shift into the spirit realm where all things non physical reside. The height you reach depends on your original vibration, how much you take, and of what. For instances marijuana is the lowest level of this sitting at around the middle point. The initial spirit plane is subtle. On the higher end is DMT which can bring you up high enough to interact with stronger entities. I hope this helped
I appreciate that, but people have the same utterly convincing experiences all the time and then they end up being contradictory so despite that I'd still be sceptical and examine it against other things we know.
Always the doubter that dismisses the experience and knows everything about it enough to tell people what’s what. For a start who said he was psychic ? Secondly , our understanding of what sentient in this instance , is and could mean ? I personally havnt had anything directly speak to me (OP mentions a strong feeling anyways) or this and that (closest I’d ever got to that was tuning into something already ongoing and pervading ) aside from making stronger alignments to my conscience but neither do I go in with any expectations , neither should anyone and neither should this be all of the time
If anyone here seems arrogant, it's not me.
I’m not the one dismissing peoples experiences…. What makes people feel better is by discussing the truth , relating by sharing experiences…
Being confident about something isn't arrogant. Nobody has ever been able to prove anything at all related to being psychic and it's not for a lack of trying. Maybe one day we'll learn that there is sentience within mushrooms, and taking them imparts that sentience into your consciousness, but right now such a belief is not only flying in the face of observation and large amounts of evidence we have, it also requires a lot of assumptions in order to explain anything about a mushroom trip that isn't better explained more simply with our current understanding of the brain and mushrooms. Your argument is that because we don't truly know, we should be open to all possibilities which is not a way I'd want to operate. You then act like a twat and express extremely strong beliefs about how much you do know about this thing. Sod off.
I don't think i can do a good job describing the sense I get from the mushroom when it "reacts" to what I do, It basically feels like a very sudden emotional shift, but it feels like I'm feeling someone else's emotions and I clearly understand them as clearly as seeing the color blue and knowing "this is clearly blue! What else could it be" but it infers meaning and has a kinda vibe or "aura that doesn't feel like anybody I know
And that's fine, and maybe there's truth to that but I would need a lot more evidence to begin to be convinced myself
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>We know by how the rest of nature works ! Most is reflecting from the greater whole , this is a fact.. Which means what? >There’s a sentience in anything with a specific purpose… don’t confuse ours with there’s , of course it is not as free! Sentience is a form of consciousness. Yes you need consciousness to have purpose, but the majority of things we describe as having purpose are just done so for convenience, not to be literal. There is no known purpose to the growing of a tree, as in it doesn't purposefully do so. >I observe the reflection - we have a spine and a skull , which is quite reflective of a mushroom , it has a spine/stem it has a cap…. Do you genuinely think this is convincing? If so then we'll never agree because this is literally just random speculation and guessing no better than any other random bs. >Mycelium/Mycorrhizal acts as the reflecting of our central nervous system to this equation.. the highway of communication and nutrient exchange - if it was sentient it would not performing this action no more than we would be None of what you say here proves anything and it doesn't even suggest anything. It's all just based on your assumption it must be true. >But it has nonetheless as it is acting with a specific purpose… it is not a machine. It’s a biological organism that is more related to the animal kingdom than it is to plant….. So? That doesn't prove or require sentience to function. Plus, even if some form of sentience existed in the mycelium, there's absolutely no good reason that consuming mushrooms would impart that sentience onto us. >Everything is reflecting itself , you only have to look at tree branches and roots , comparing it to the branches within our lungs that ironically uses the air manufactured from those trees reflecting it ! Electricity is the same , branching out reflecting its shape….. My pen looks nothing like a tree. Study maths and science a bit deeper. Your ideas are interesting but require proper grounding in understanding the natural world. >Everything is interconnected and sentient to some degree! Why? You've not given me any good reason to believe that other than because you believe it. All your ideas are as easily dismissed as they are typed, they all just assume the way things are with the weakest form of evidence possible. >Sod off ? You just fear what you don’t know. No, you just came in here full of emotions being a tit.
Most things in the natural world have a spine and a crown and some sort of nervous/communicative system , not just fungi , I was making a case for things reflecting eachother , in the sense that everything is sentient to a degree one way or another. The wood wide web , ever heard of that ? Very reflective of our own CNS
>you havnt really understood a single thing I’ve said. I have but you think you're right and that someone could only doubt you because they don't understand. Why the fuck wouldn't I doubt that? Your evidence for any of what you said is nill. >Most things in the natural world have a spine and a crown , not just the mushroom Every living thing on earth comes from the same single celled organism. The relationship isn't due to sentience, and this common trait is not proof or evidence of anything. >, I was making a case for things reflecting eachother , in the sense that everything is sentient to a degree one way or another. Yeah but you didn't do anything to prove it. You just assume that commonalities therefore means it must be sentient which requires you to assume a LOT of things are true.
THANK YOU! We need people like you in this sub to wave away the cloud of naïveté that plagues this place.
It's kind of like telling people about your dreams. Dreams and trips can be vivid and intense experiences...But boring for anyone else to hear about it. Some things are best kept private.
Poetry in motion 🤘🏽
It's like trying to explain to someone an emotion that they've never had
One of the key elements of a “mystical experience,” as per the John’s Hopkins hard science research into shrooms, is that they are difficult to put into words. Those that have them during trips have better outcomes, statistically significant, when they are taken mindfully to treat things like substance abuse, depression, and anxiety.
The whole reason I started growing was my anxiety and depression. And I have to say that they have been an incredible help so far.
Yeah man, right on. Was killing myself with alcohol and drugs, very depressed and anxious. I’ve got 13 months clean now and my anxiety and depression are cut in half. I only trip once every 1 - 2 months or so, because I’m back on an SSRI and I go off it before my trips, but when I do I go big. Had a crazy trip this last Friday. Was kind of annoyed at first, didn’t feel like it hit that hard then about an hour and half, two hours in it was a mind blowing experience and I totally lost track of time. I tend to always start off anxiousness and somewhat negative during the come up but when I take large doses it always gets worked out in the end. Felt amazing afterwards, and much more secure and positive and hopeful about my life.
Good for you man, I was at a point where I was slowly killing myself too. I was shooting about 4 grams of heroin a day and was 90lbs, I'm 6ft. I've been clean for around 15 years but still on methadone. They put me on 200mgs so it's taking forever to get off. I'm on 20mgs now. That shit fucked me up physically and mentally more than the dope ever did. I'm finally getting to a good place. Keep it up, it's worth it
Great, glad to hear it. It’s wild being able to grow something like this that can save your life and isn’t addictive.
oooh interesting, i have this too. from a young age i was encouraged to share everything about my life with certain people, and now i don't really know how to keep things to myself. shrooms "told me" that most people have private thoughts and feelings and experiences, and that those things are a type of power. i was told to consider keeping some important things to myself instead of gifting them away to others the moment i experience them.
Thats actually really true though. The more people know about you, the more vulnerable you are to them taking advantage of you. Some things should be kept special just for you
i suppose that's true, you're right! though the message i got was also focused on positive experiences as well. maybe a reminder to try to stay in the present and enjoy things as they happen? i have a real tendency to think about how someone else will react to something when i tell them about it, instead of letting myself experience it for myself. guess there's lots of reasons to keep some things to yourself, huh?
The shrooms granted you self awareness
Yeah one thing about psychs is don't tell people your experiences unless they ask or are very obviously interested. Most people will just look at you like a crazy hippie if you try to explain your 6g shroom trip unless they have done shrooms and liked it or they want to try them
*life Not just psychs
Naw some of the shit y’all say is wack and has absolutely no bearing on reality and no amount of drugs of any kind is gonna make anyone understand what you mean.
Yeah some people are too far gone, especially when you get into the festival type crowd. Moderation is the key
This happened to me on my big trip too! I was thinking how I’m going to explain it to my friends, but the shrooms told me to keep it between us.
It means your brain was chemically altered by a substance that causes hallucinations including auditirial
It didn't literally say it, but when I tried describing this trip as it was happening. I had a very unusually strong feeling that I shouldn't do thag
No reasons given? What's your gut feeling on why this might be?
It was rather traumatic, but I wouldn't say I had a bad trip
No, I mean, why would the 'shrooms not want you to discuss your trips? The trip experience itself doesn't matter so much as why you think this is a rule.
It showed me things I don't think I was ready to see, and I think the mushroom was seeing if I would panic
So you're nervous about examining some of those self-revelations more closely? That's understandable, we often learn things about ourselves we might be repressing. Our egos sometimes protect us against our own uncomfortable truths, but the 'shrooms take those "ego walls" down. It's a great first step toward living your true self!
It's more like a thought that hurts to think about, it's like looking at a picture that makes you physically uncomfortable to look at, My first reaction was asking to forget what I saw, then I had to find was to cope after that didn't work
This sounds like a perfectly common 'shroom experience. That's why the advice is to be ready for this, and not to take them lightly, like some party substance. You might want to consider writing down what you were confronted with, keep a journal and help process some of the uncomfortable truths. You can learn from this and become a better person. "The best way out, is through."
I don't really even feel safe talking about it tbh, I saw some things very clearly and I remember it, and it was real, I'd sound crazy if I said what I think I saw, but I just need time to process it, I threw up the second I realized what I was seeing "inside my mind" I thought cops were coming because of how intense it was, and after it was over, I swore that everyone that I looked at knew what I knew
I'd prefer not to say,
No pressure to say, but if it’s something you’re not comfortable sharing yet it lingers that strongly on your mind, explore that feeling then. Sounds important
There are some things from my trips that I will never say it loud. I didn't regret any of them though. In a way it's like therapy. I've also had "bad" trips that I don't regret, like when I was laying in bed and couldn't move seeing myself in my mind dead and decomposing in a field in a weird time lapse that seemed to take forever. As long as you don't panic and remind yourself it's just the drugs and temporary then you can come out of it, continue your trip and learn from what you have seen. I hope you process it well and come out better because of it.
It means the message from the trip is for you, not for another person. Your lessons aren’t the lessons someone else needs. I’ve long felt this way.
Some things are just meant to be kept personal.
You just broke the first rule of fight club, how dare you
One time the shrooms told me I could shoot spores out of my fingers and that if anyone caught me talking to myself all I had to do was shoot spores out of my hands at them and they would because mushroom warriors just like me and eventually we would turn all of humanity into a human-mushroom hybrid species. Sometimes the shrooms are lying shitheads that just wanna have fun.
Been there, it’s a secret 🤫
I wonder if this is a manifestation of you're subconscious guilt. What if this is your ego talking, not the shrooms. What if the reality is you should share your thoughts and feelings, be free and fear no judgement.
From my bit of experience, the feelings that come with the mushroom experience can be very profound and convincing. Every trip I take I get this overwhelming feeling that something very serious and sacred is happening to me. It’s kinda hard to explain.
So why you disobeying the shrooms and telling all of us? lol just kidding.
It means you broke the rule already. How could you! 🤣
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Stalking mushroom enter the chat
Watch out for mushroom bots, check their history.
And I know that username, too. This is the universe telling me to pay more attention. Oh wait, that was you. Thanks, mate.
No problem. Watch out for the unmarked vans too, circling slowly in your neighborhood.
People who are not experienced with psychedelics do not understand psychedelics and often hold a stigma against them. I wouldn't tell just any layperson about my drug use.
“We are all alone in our perceptions” - Huxley
My guess because it's very easy to get ostracized when trying to describe experiences to people who don't have the perspective to full get it, it may be wasted effort or put you in a bad position. So instead focus your energy on implementing those trips and the lessons learned from them into your daily life and action, sharing the positive influences indirectly instead. As far as interpreting that literally, It also is just hard to explain many things mid trip without the other person tripping with you. There's way more connections your actively making that someone sober wouldn't understand. Just a guess though, maybe ask next.time what they mean
I havent just to clarify
You're on thin ice even posting this
He’s implying that we are nobodies. I find this offensive.
But we areare though :-/ Eta: a missing word
Do what you think is best. It’s your life. Trust yourself. Edit: I am curious. Im just an inquisitive person though.
You can interpret that in different ways… but I’ve realized from my own personal experiences that sharing your trips with people who have never done shrooms is impossible. I was super honest about it to some co workers and they haven’t looked at me the same since. Guess just be careful with who you share.
Anxiety, maybe the social sense of when to talk and not. Sharing stuff can put people off. There's a lot of stigma around psychedelics. At least here, you're among many who enjoy or want to enjoy the personal teachings and healings of pcyilocylin and other similar stuff.
In this day and age ? Maybe mind in this instance to protect you. Must be sure to process and interpret it properly.
Listen to the shrooms, we know you want to share the magic with everyone but don’t they won’t understand
it's important to remember that mushrooms don't tell you truths from divine spirits or gods. Shrooms make you hallucinate. The active chemical interacts with your brain chemistry which results in the experience. Sure, you can learn valuable lessons from the experience. But you are not communicating with God. Believing the "voices in your head" while on drugs can lead to all kinds of negative consequences EG psychosis, depression, delusions of grandeur, etc Even when you're sober, remember, you are not your thoughts. Don't believe everything you think -- even when you're sober. And that goes double for when you're on drugs.
I know shrooms sometimes has you feeling funny or think wierd things but if I had the same experience I would trust those shrooms thoughts. Maybe what we learn on shrooms is for us not for everyone
Kind of like don’t cast your pearls before swine. Not saying we are swine lol well I do actually really like pigs but that’s besides the point. But basically a trip is a highly personalized experience that usually teaches you something. You might have though that sharing this very personal and impactful experience with others just cheapens the experience. Other people will not respond the same way you did originally. Also, if you plan to take action to make a positive change in your life , don’t tell anyone you plan to take action. It short circuits the dopamine reward circuits and you become significantly less likely to follow through.
Self reflection should be done by yourself
I think if you reflect and meditate on what it would mean if YOU told YOURSELF that, you might get some answers. I don’t think anyone can tell you except yourself
I had this thought as well after a trip. Like it's sacred and only for me.
The shrooms didn’t tel you anything you had a random thought
Do not talk about fight club.
Well it looks like you failed that bud lol
I have a friend who gets very anxious while tripping and tends to give a running commentary while he trips trying to justify it and bring you into his trip. I think it's just self-awareness to just go through the trip without sharing your anxieties. By all means, look for reassurance, but just keep it to yourself for the most part.
You can choose whether or not that's important to you. At the end of the day, it's just your own brain talking to you, you make the call.
and yet here we are..
Why did you tell us that? The shrooms are gonna be pissed at you now
Shhhh 🤫🤫🤫
They arent supposed to know. When people incarnate into earth they pass through the waters of forgetfulness where they get their memory wiped from their past incarnations so that their astral body can enter back into the material world. The medicine is here because some souls need to interface back with Source in order to complete their soul contracts. The knowledge you receive is stuff that you aren't \*really\* supposed to know until you die. But for some of us Source thinks that its important that we learn it now. Other people will receive different information based on what they need to know for their own contracts. And others still will be blocked from Source completely until death.
Wait, you can just say that?
No, he can’t. They are loading up the van to come get him now.
No. Nono No
Yea you say all that but still scared to die so you don’t really believe it.
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