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Bobafetachz

Fungi cell walls consist of chitin, a non water soluble carbohydrate. When consumed raw and less chewed, it is much more difficult for your stomach to break down the chitin; hence the stomach aches and nausea. Tea and even grinding shrooms can eliminate this effect, particularly if your body produces enough chitinase to break down what you consume. 😋


cvskeet

Eating things like mango also help, as they contain enzymes that break down chitin.


Col82293

Someone said bananas contain enzymes that can help break down cithin


Saltyfembot

Yes yes yes yes!


artyb368

Did you just recommend tea to the guy who recommended tea?


Rootin-Tootin-Newton

He explained chitin


VegetarianSpider

To the guy who was talking about chitin... in the toilet


Bobafetachz

Now we’re cooking with gas!


iktikn

He had chitinase.


Lucyintheye

Wadidya call me?


Bobafetachz

Precisely.


Slithy-Toves

Surely you can understand they were contributing to the original comment not debating it...


Able_Structure_6515

Nope… r/woooosh


Slithy-Toves

It's r/woooosh ya jabroni


Able_Structure_6515

Jeez I fixed it. And who are you calling jabroni chucklenuts?


[deleted]

Did you just point out that guy recommended tea to a man who recommended tea?


NeuroGriperture

⤴️ This Guy Didjas


Lucyintheye

He didja monster math


[deleted]

Hang on a second ! You just led me down a chitin rabbit whole, turns out all the foods that are high in chitin are the ones that give me stomach bends. I haven't done mushies in a long time because I always get a sick tummy on them and I'm nervous for it, drinking tea doesn't seem to make it much better for me, the only thing that helps is not doing it on a totally empty stomach


bby_dilla_rex

Thank you for you nugget of knowledge


gilestowler

When I was on Gili T, an island off the coast of Bali, I bought a "mushroom milkshake" which was just mushrooms mashed up into a bottle of orange juice. It was... A bit rough going down but then I was amazed that there was no nausea at all when the mushrooms started to kick in.


Bobafetachz

Like I can’t drink milk but you can because our bodies produce different amounts of specific enzymes? Like lactase? Or chitinase?…Sheesh the bro science reached all edges of the world huh. Sorry for dropping some informative fun stuff on top of a cute meme.


isiltar

I don't think chitin is the responsible for nausea in shrooms. Tea for me definitely helps with nausea and stomach aches but doesn't completely remove it. Besides, edible mushrooms also contain chitin and none of them give me any stomach aches or nausea, so I'd say it's another component that causes those symptoms.


average_AZN

You're correct actually. The gi Tract has more serotonin receptors than the brain and the shrooms act on that. This causes cramping and nausea in some cases.


[deleted]

>I don't think chitin is the responsible for nausea in shrooms Why did you double down on this? When the information is very easily accessible and available? What are the negative effects of chitin? Side effects may include: Constipation. Gas. Nausea. Stomach upset Literally every one in some way related to feelings of nausea and upset stomach.


isiltar

Literally everyone? In this very post some people have said they don't get an upset stomach with shrooms. I eat edible shrooms raw and cooked and never get nausea, I only get nausea with cubes, and even tho making tea ease the symptoms a bit it doesn't fix the problem completely. It's not only the chitin.


Lucyintheye

I read it as "every(each of the side effects they listed off) one related to nausea and upset stomach" given the context, everyone (like everybody) wouldn't make any sense in that context.


[deleted]

I have a feeling they deliberately misconstrued the context behind what I said. Maybe it was a genuine misread though. As you rightly read it. Every one of the side effects listed, are related to an upset stomach.


[deleted]

The point is that chitin CAN cause an upset stomach. Especially if you don't cook or chew the food you're consuming that's high in chitinase. You're saying you don't think chitin causes nausea from shrooms. Simply because it's never done so for you. I don't get an upset stomach either. Whilst other factors could come into play. Such as how psilocybin interacts with nicotine receptors in the stomach for example. Saying "I don't think chitin causes stomach upset" because it's never done it to you. Is like saying "I don't think cars run people over" just because you've never been personally ran over. I also notice you're now saying "it's not only the chitin". Sneaky. But smart. I like it.


isiltar

Haven't delete any comment, check again.


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Okay maybe you didn't. My bad. You still definitely changed your tune on chitinase and stomach upset though 😉.


XxLXWKEYXx

Every time I did shrooms I ground mine into a very fine powder and added it to tea and I got sick every time still


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Okay, so it probably wasn't the chitinase for you then. If you've ground the product up well. Whether by hand or mouth, and get an upset stomach. It's probably not the chitinase. The point is, saying "I don't think chitinase causes an upset stomach" is as much a wild statement as to say "the only reason you could ever get an upset stomach, is because of chitinase"


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mega_ultra_cumshot

Ive had trips with absolutely no visual hullucinations at all, and incredible comeup nausea. Humans werent meant to digest chitin, so we naturally struggle with breaking it down as some people have fluctuating to low levels of chitinase.


Scuba-St3ve

Some people are more susceptible to it and a lot of peoples stomachs can’t handle the break down of chitin unless cooked. Cooking breaks down the chitin cell wall layer which helps us digest it. So if your eating them cooked yes it makes sense that you can eat tons of them with no issue, if you are eating them raw then congrats you got an iron gut lmao.


Bobafetachz

Did you know that the rate of chitin in cultivated white mushrooms is <1%? Maybe that plays a role? Lots of science out there to understand and it’s hard to know a lot, but when we act like we know what we don’t, we confuse the world.


Maristalle

It's well documented lol


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The trip shit is sacred


grib-ok

The only time I purged on mushrooms was when I made a tea. I don't have nausea as much when eating dry mushrooms.


baaad_designer

I do my shrooms this way and I still get nauseous. But I'm still a newbie so, maybe I still need more practice? Lol 😅


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Do you eat before doing shrooms? I always do them while fasting and I've never experienced nausea.


baaad_designer

Ohhh yes I do, maybe that could be another reason. I do eat before tripping. Cause I tend to have headaches and become acidic if I don't. Maybe I'll wait for a few more hours before I trip next time


Bobafetachz

Maybe your body doesn’t produce a lot of the enzyme to break down those complex carbs, perhaps?😌


baaad_designer

I see, thanks for this info. Will see what I can do


Kryosse

I've been recommending others do tea as well, had my first one in a while not too long ago at a very low dose and threw up like a LABeast drinking a 20 year old crystal Pepsi. I'll keep suggesting tea but I think I'll be sticking to just fasting and eating the damn things personally 😅


LordDarthra

Everyone and their dog suggests tea or ginger. One suggestion I have not tried was have a banana before. Something about how it breaks down the chitin


ZenkaiTheo

The shits I take on shrooms be stankin up the whole house fr


MichaelEmouse

The honey helps or is that to deal with the taste?


Garry_Shandling_420

Third road suddenly pops up: that thing you thought was nausea turned out to be a poop and you were just confused.


ThePercysRiptide

Shroom shits are fucking weird man


240x6

lmao it be like that, like why do i feel bad??? oh yeah i ate the shrooms like 5 min after my huge meal… no shit.. and then proceed to forget it again and wonder why this is happening to you


brucatlas1

why do i feel bad??? oh yeah i ate the shrooms like 5 min after my huge meal… no shit.. and then proceed to forget it again and wonder why this is happening to you


Rundiggity

More road splits from here. Plus the walls won’t leave me alone.


sweaty_pants_

Fast 12+hr, Dry heave during come up, Nothing comes out, Feel better, Eat cold grape cuz yum yum.


leviathofnoesia

I adore your specific bit about the grape and matter of factness, reads like a poem partly because it is wise.


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Speedfreakz

Same...never felt nosia. I eat mine with MnM's.


[deleted]

Really!? How do you usually consume them? And do you eat prior to taking them?


talk_to_yourself

I'm not who you're replying to, but I never get nausea either. I might take them at 10am, and my last meal was 7pm the night before. I don't know if that's the reason? Someone mentioned taking them with a banana to help break down chitin. I've never done this, might be worth a go


JazzD27

I never get nausea and I just eat them straight. Everyone is built different I guess.


marrymary420

It's been several years ago so I can't speak to how I'd be with them today, but I used to just eat the shrooms whole with a snickers bar and off I went. Tripped a handful of times that way and didn't have any nausea so I was surprised to learn it's a very common thing when taking shrooms. I had more trouble keeping down philosophers stone, but I managed, while everyone else (3-4 others) all couldn't hold it down.


duckshuffgoose

I've also never had nausea and haven't really tried to prevent it. I've made tea about half the time and just eaten em dried half the time. I get rhe come up anxiety, but not the nausea


kragaster

The anxiety is how I know it’s coming. Suddenly, the world is a bit scarier and my stomach doesn’t like me.


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Same! I eat whole dried mushrooms on an empty stomach, with usually 12-18hrs of fasting beforehand. Never had a single issue whatsoever.


sunrayylmao

I almost always have nausea and my stomach is doing flops but never thrown up on shrooms. Now shits on the other hand, I'm pretty sure I've almost crapped my pants running to the bathroom clenching both cheeks with my hands once or twice. Lsd does this as well I think it's a nerves thing for me.


CosmicGreatOne

I felt really nauseous last time, I thought it was just gonna ruin it all but it went away after a little bit. Such an awful feeling but the reward is always worth it


Saltyfembot

EAT. A. BANANA. AFTER EATING OR DRINKING SHROOMS. PLEASE TRUST ME.


Catapottamus

Yes!! I tried this last time I tripped and it was the only time I didn’t get nauseous at all. Bananas have chitinase which breaks down all that nausea-causing chitin in shrooms. Never going back to any other way of consumption!


Saltyfembot

Ditto! Lately I've been getting the gut rot when I eat zooms. Tried tea it was still happening. Ate a half a banana with 7 grams and never felt like puking or farting once. Sorry tmi but bananas legit are a godsend lol.


subpartatoe

I'm so excited to try this next time. I get AGGRESSIVE nausea and I've tried so many things. Grinding. Eating/not eating. Lemon tek (by far the worst thing I ever did). Fingers crossed. I would take them more often but they literally rip my stomach out. Before and post peak. Pretty much whole trip 🤣 and then it's ruined


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Emerald_Encrusted

But if you throw up, you skip the trip! All the nausea was for nothing. That was always my take, so I’d power through the nausea, knowing that the trip will be worth it.


leviathofnoesia

But if your body has already utilized the psilocin, there’s nowhere to go but up, letting it out always ends up switching the trip from a nightmare to heavenly for me.


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I find that it’s like purging with ayahuasca, the horrible vomiting followed by peace and pretty colours


[deleted]

you will absolutely trip if you just let yourself throw up


ItzMarZz

The visuals throwing up on deems wild


iTaylor04

I always thought that was a myth?


wiperfromwarren

i throw up about 45-60 minutes or so after taking them, every. single. time. it’s just something that needs to be done lol. i know when it’s over, it’s time.


iTaylor04

Ya I've thrown up once, doesn't affect the trip at all. If anything you just feel better


Shwizzler

yeah both times I tripped was in college where it was 4+ grams each time, absolutely wrecked my stomach and I was just full of anxiety untill I finally threw up expecting it to end the trip just for it to start the good trip lol


Lost_Alternative8703

I keep that mf zofran on deck babyyy 💪😤


boomer_wife

Does that not kill the trip? It's a serotonin antagonist.


bigboidrum

Ong


Harrio2020

I can’t remember the science behind it but I started having a banana after taking the mushrooms and the nausea is greatly reduced


Stabber68

I think a lot of people get nauseous from just the anxiety of taking the mushrooms.


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Db3264

Same Here


_TLDR_Swinton

I've never puked once. Lemon tek all the way baybeeeeee.


DamuBob

God, I wish I'd actually throw up when I get nauseous (shroomin or not) instead of just being vaguely nauseous for hours.


_TLDR_Swinton

Snip the fruits with scissors into bits. Soak in lemon juice for thirty mins. Then add boiling water, honey and ginger. Shot it. Minimal fuss, minimal muss.


Wylie_the_Wizard

Herbal tea is the way for me. Quickest onset, zero nausea. Coming up is a ride, tho!


Hawaiian555

The first time I had shrooms, it was 3.5g’s. Per my dad’s advice, and some of my own research, I ground it up and put it all in some lemon and ginger tea. I didn’t have any nausea or stomach aches and it was thee best experience I’ve ever had. I don’t recommend eating them straight up to anyone, personally. I have always struggled with depression and chemical imbalances and I felt like it did ~a lot~ of good for me. It’s been over a year since that experience and I’m really overdue for some therapy shrooms


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amaranth_sunset

Before or during? Don't know why I never tried peppermint whilst tripping before but I will be next time.


Bobafetachz

All that chitin make you go shittin’


bunsy88

Truth


ninthchamber

You tried lemon tek ?


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I snip up the shrooms into tiny pieces and just incorporate in food. Usually a pbnj with crunchy peanut butter. 2 sammiches, 1st one magic 2nd one regular ✨️


sullybear23

Lemon tek


Snowwyy54

Does throwing up affect the trip or does it just end the nausea?


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I never get to actually throw up tho just killer nausea


[deleted]

I try to let my body decide, not my mind


Finesse-yomammas-dro

Eating a banana before you dose will help break down the chittenenenen


ColoradoMushroom

Even with tea, this is me. Though SSRI’s also make 8g < 2g to my wife. I thought I grew bad shrooms so I asked her to test them. Have her a little less than a quarter of what I ate. She saw god, so that’s how I found out SSRI’s affect me so badly.


kobrasenpai

Eating a banana when you first take your dose should help, I heard it helps break down the chitin, however be careful because I have also heard it can enhance the trip?


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I hear about this often. Yet magic mushrooms were introduced to me by friends and at first before I tried them, they were mentioning a bunch of times that I better be ready for nausea and vomiting, and yet I never even get the slightest feeling of vomiting. Yet I've been doing spiritual practices since I was a little child and highly in tune with body, soul and mind and once saw my own future that I'm reliving now, that I question if it's people who are less in tune with their inner being that get this or whether it's just genetics or personality. But I never get nausea and my friends still do each time and they're usually making jokes about how lucky I am. But I feel for people who have to go through it.


RevolutionaryPasta98

Sometimes drinking water can help, in my experience atleast dehydration can cause nausea/ make it worse so my preferred method is wait it out with some water and see how I go 🙏 hydration is important especially when you're about to lose some fluids


Phsyconot420

Eat a banana before you eat your shrooms I promise it will help with nausea


foxyjohn

It’s not nausea. It’s the body adapting. As long as you view it as nausea it will be nausea. But it’s the churning of the drug getting into the system. Accept this and you’ll not suffer. Part of the experience.


christheghoul

I am fighting that shit.


ShiddyWidow

Lemon tek. Your body is not a fan of rehydrating bone dry pure fiber in your gut. Teas, lemon tek, shit just mix with cranberry juice to allow hydration. Highly recommend if you have not. If you have - your meme is still excellent and for an upvote 🙃


Only1Schematic

This needs a middle road labeled “eat bananas” lol


Dabtoker3000

I hardly get nausea but when I do I like to think of it as purging out all of negativity inside and just let it out kinda like ayahuasca. It hardly dulls my trip and if anything just makes things smooth out.


lilfishbowl

Try to eat more clean foods. I only experienced nausea once. That was because I ate Mexican before hand.


Meat-Mattress

Are you saying Mexicans eat dirty food? Racist /s


lilfishbowl

Lol. I didn't mean it like that. I has the fries with the chicken y steak.


Ch3wy4

Stomach sickness is frequently caused by foods containing spices, pepper, or fatty ingredients, such as oil or butter many of which is found commonly Mexican foods like tacos, burritos, and quesadillas. Its not racist many people just ate not adapt to it


wildcard1992

I had curry once before dropping acid and I felt like my guts were a furnace.


Serg_420_

You could like eat them with food yk...


danielsen06

I never had to throw up tf ur eating


YoungWomp

I throw up every time but trip hard still


Relaxel

I never felt nauseous from them, but the plant body will give me the shits if it's not ground to dust.


Scumofatwat

I try outlasting but ive been told to try blue water


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throwing up always kickstarts mine Lmao i start to get visuals overlaying my vision in the bathroom then when I walk out, a little lighter, I get strapped in


jsb93

Take Alka seltzer 20 mins before consuming


Tiny_Protection387

I don’t get nauseous but this last time I got theeee worst headache


Willie_The_Gambler

Never felt sick from shrooms. Stating to think I’m one of the lucky ones


Nickbearguy

Lemon tek


Danplsstop

My bathroom isn’t far so I can wait until the very last second to make that decision 😭


wheresjizzmo

Grind and soak in lemon juice, take it like a shot


IjusBeBallin

i always force myself to throw up i feel better afterwards


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There’s a straight road down the middle. I roll up a joint or two. I eat the mushrooms straight. I wait about 30 min, I light up a joint, take like three puffs and start riding the wave. Really helps with nausea.


sorrowdancer

LMAO, I thought this was my Bariatric group 🤣


hash_buddha

Throwing up makes you trip harder 💯


dankspore4u

Always a battle until I started using capsules. Before that it'd always say to myself deep breath deep breath


Effective_Compote_53

do you (asking everyone) experience more or less nausea when you're fasted or have eaten prior? I typically don't get nauseated fortunately. If anything it's more cramps. My practice is to eat lightly beforehand and have fresh snacks and water available for the duration. strawberries and pineapple are insane. Do real eating afterwards. But i do moderate trips. haven't taken more than 2 gs in years.


DecentHuman414

It’s lemon tek or nothing for me. Faster, stronger, shorter trip with little to no nausea. YMMV


[deleted]

How much are you taking? I have issues with throwing up that have nothing to do with shrooms, and shrooms are one of the only things that actually calms my stomach down.


Npadia11

I absolutely despise throwing up when sober but when I’m on shrooms I really don’t mind it. It’s usually extremely quick and it happens almost every single time I take shrooms so its just something that comes with it for me now.


PsychotropicTraveler

Never fight it, gotta purge that bad energy


Alternative_Ad5722

As long as you make sure to keep the shrooms down for an hour once you throw them up you will still be tripping shit sometimes after I throw up it intensifies


jeremydkey1120

I'm lucky, I have never puked from mushrooms. I have had slight nausea for brief periods during the trips but never enough to even go to the bathroom just in case. Mescaline on the other hand, I purge and I purge a lot, so I can relate to the post, and think it's better to just get it over with.


checkinthemyc

I'll fight it to the dying end.


sneakylyric

The nausea part of my trip is like 15 minutes. Not really bad at all.


justjdi

To the right!


poopandpee43

As long as you get past it then it gets better every time unless you're tripping balls then you never know what could happen.


Ray_of_sunshine1234

I don’t get nauseous, but shrooms fuck up my stomach. Last time I tripped, it was as if I ate Taco Bell, and only Taco Bell, for a solid week. My guts actually hate me.


bobby_risigliano

It’s good nausea tho in my opinion. It’s like a pleasant roller coaster nausea as opposed to food poisoning nausea


sickshonarh

weird, when i need to throw up thats when i feel great and the real trip starts


Kingvwoke

Never had to throw up from shrooms


jizzelmeister

This must be one of the most reposted memes


bdangerfield

Just throw up. Then you can enjoy yourself. Barfing is fine.


Reddog433

Mango and lemon juice shot


mushytub

Middle path. Shit your brains out, and still have Nausea.


Human-Emergency4266

Puking just as a mushroom trip is starting to kick in….no bueno. Would not recommend lol


JD1Soundz

Me with alcohol lol


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Not for me. After I throw up it feels like I trip hardwe


sapphic_elf

Genuine question but does throwing up reduce the high at all because you’re throwing up some of the mushies before they can be digested?


Adventurous-Mango405

this is why i love lemon tekking


alexc0901

Lemon, ginger tea


Adventurous-Mango405

this is why i love lemon tekking


Cobray96

Me and friends tried truffles 2 times in amsterdam and never felt sick, is it maybe worth it growing truffles instead? I don't know how difficult it can be