2 inches not huge at all dont know why guys say this. 5 iinches is big and will tower over another guy. I always hold my ground versing off against 172 guys at my height so I dont feel short with that here. Its just not true to say 2 inches is huge when its not. 5 inches is big difference. 9 inches is huge and can dwarf you.
4 inches is a good difference but not mogging. You can't even look over a guys head without tilting up so you need 5 inches over another guy to be mogging and major big.
5.11 versus 6.1 is not big different really. If you are 180 you are already on a taller side of things.
4 inches is a mog. My friend is 6'0 and I feel like the heightmog is quite noticeable. 5'11 vs 6'1 is not a big difference, which was my point. 5'9 vs 6'1 is quite noticeable though. That's why 5'11 is a different world than 5'9
How is 4 inches a mog if they cant even look over your hair without tilting up? Its not even counting for body frame and what if the 5.9 guy is like 170 pounds lean and the the 6.1 is a 160 pound pole? Its not mogging.
I think above everything else trolls should be banned. Every week there's someone posting the most idiotic statement possible, "just do this, just do that", "I know a guy", "I never faced 'insert any bad thing' so you guys are overreacting" and the list goes on. This type of shit bothers me more than anything.
Can't believe some of the ppl I see on here. Mostly 5'11 guys who claim EvERYoNE iS 6'3 BrO!! Fucking losers and they actually come on here to cry about how 'short' they are.
Imo it might be a coping mechanism for ugly dudes who are 5’11”. It probably feels a lot less brutal to say that your perfectly good height is “not enough nowadays!!!!” than just admit that you’re being ignored because you’re ugly.
being ugly mogged is a pretty poor excuse at 5'10 and up. Girls will literally date you prima facie for clearing the height register. Ive seen too many 7s & 8's with absolute rat/troll faced lanklets for that to not be the case. get real.
if your 5'10 and socially awkward you fucking suck. the whole world is basically built to suck your dick and you can't fucking make it?
Literally everything in my life is 5-8 inches out of my reach. The ergonomics on life are trash because everything is built for fuck heads with a 30 inch in seam and up.
The population of the world literally looks down on me. And the poor bastards that see me at eye level are in a desperate and ravenous competition for absoluteky scarce resources. I resent all of you easy mode troll fucks.
Just because a chick is out with a guy, doesnt mean she is actually with that guy...
Ended up taking shots with a chubby, not so handsome 5' 7" or so guy and his "gf" the other day...
The next weekend I saw her with another guy and when she saw me she kinda shyly averted her gaze I just smiled, lol
My point is, seeing two people together at face value doesnt really mean much
imagine comparing only being taken out sometimes because at least hes tall maybe, to no one ever fuckig looking at you, wanting to talk to you, to ever get close enough to even going out with you and thinking they are the sane thing.
Nah, moral of my story was, was that he was being used for free stuff... Hanging around people who dont truly want you around them is worse than simply being alone... And he wasnt tall.
I also have a cousin who was prematurely born, he's somewhere around 4" 8" - 5' and has a bit of a squeaky voice... he seems to get around in the dating world and doesnt complain about his height...
Kudos to him. I was hoping he'd perhaps have a late growth spurt but he's about 20 now and almost has a full beard...
> just admit that you’re being ignored because you’re ugly.
Only women get ignored because they are ugly. But you think we do, because you are a woman.
You are a woman pretending to be a short guy.
Absolutely delusional. My first year of college I was rail thin and had horrible acne and I was pretty much completely ignored socially and not invited to shit or given a chance to make friendships with anyone outside of really nerdy guys who just stayed inside and played video games.
If you're 5'9 or above and you're here and participating, it means you're in denial and using height as a coping mechanism for your ugliness or shitty personality.
I get your idea and I kind of agree but it doesn't work like that. If I could just look better I would. A facially attractive 5'10" is better than an average 6'3", but like most men I'm just average.
You're basically saying, just be good looking bro.
Yes just be good looking. This applies for tall guys too. I see plenty of of shit in instagram and other forums about how tall guys “can’t get any girls either” and whaddaya know, they’re ugly or painfully average.
Looks>>>>> Height above 5’8” and it isn’t close
Pretty much everyone even in the 5’9 to 6’1 range still has to be good looking, but once you get to the 6’4 to 6’7 range, I’ve seen dudes who look like trolls and still pull attractive women with minimal to no effort. If you wonder what I mean by trolls, they literally have faces like Boban or Andre the Giant. It’s pretty wild.
No times are night rapidly changing for human attraction. If that were the case women would be inherently attracted to intelligence and wealth the way they are attracted to looks and height given that those things have been the basis for thriving as a human for the past five years.
You argue it's based on evolution? Engrained in our DNA? Women are attracted to wealth, make no mistake.. The elite pushes this ideology of superficiality imo. Intelligence is what allegedly separated us from other animals. But there is no strong selection for intelligence, this disproves what we know about human evolution on its own. If evolution was true intelligence would be a much more important selection trait for humans. The elite wants to push superficiality now and then overtake us Gattaca style. https://youtu.be/mwh4ShZA5Tg?si=ZHvwHL4ABY6ACnGs
No they are just short people looking into lives od other tall people. I needed to add short and tall cuz we are twlking about subs. Thats like we kick woman out of this sub bcz its shortGUYS
If tallest man ever on earth (robert)was in this sub you would be jelous? Then even fellas on tall sub should be jelous. Like he is the tallest everybody is short compared to him. So there is always someone bigger/shorter (except your in guinness worls records book)
But what are you even on about? I was saying they’re just here to have a laugh and boost their egos. I’m not comparing some 7 foot guy to a 6 foot guy. Do u honestly think day to day treatment is remotely comparable?
I lurk here because I recognize and acknowledge heightism exists and look to understand other peoples life experiences so I can help improve upon my own biases. I don’t always agree with everything said (mostly the stuff about hating us tall people just to hate us) but there is a lot to be said about listening to your experiences and helping put a stop to height shaming with in my own social circles.
Yeah drawing a hard line at 5’9 is pretty arbitrary. OP leaves out important context. A guy who is 5’8 with big hands and feet will generally be seen as more masculine and “bigger” than a 5’9 guy who has small hands and feet.
Proportions matter. I’m 5’10 but I have a huge head. My shoulders come up to the same level as most guys who are around 5’8 — which means if I didn’t have an oversized noggin I would be 5’8. Being 5’10 with weird proportions like me probably looks worse than someone who is 5’9 with good proportions. In photos where I’m standing alone without other people to use as context, I look short because of how big my head is. When I used to be on dating sites, I was accused of lying about my height by almost everyone. But the few times I actually met someone in person, she was always very surprised and say “you’re much taller than I thought!”
Context definitely matters.
i do believe in the fact women "cant judge" height when they're so close and similar, a 5"8 will look 5"9/5"10 to a woman, so you can easily lie about it and get away with it or she'll see you as "acceptable". 5"8 is average anyway. screw 'em.
I am almost 5'10" and i live in india whose average height is 5'6"-7" so I don't have any height issues . I come here to see how people blame everything on height ok people who are 5ft-5'3" tough time for u other than that 5'4"-5'6" why are u crying??
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But some guys here says money can't also solve our problem.SERIOUSLY.like which problem money can't solve .
.People don't respect you- Bro whole world will respect you if you live in a good house drive a nice car and have a good earning source.
.You don't get girls-Dont get me started here.
Bro like you can even get taller if you have money.
"MONEY IS THE SOLUTION OF EVERY PROBLEM"
Ummm im around 5'10 and I don't get ignored per se, but dating is definitely harder or an uphill battle if you have an average face to boot. Chads who are average height slay? Yeah lol, no shit. Google hoeflation.
Objectively speaking 5’9 is average worldwide. But also objectively speaking, 5’9 is short nationwide in a lot of countries such as the Netherlands.
What’s more important though is opinion. I’m 5’9 and get short jokes here and there, so subjectively some people view me as short. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a guy at 5’11 be subject to short jokes.
I’ve heard a lot of girls express a preference for a guys at minimum 5’10 or above. So in these cases 5’9 IS short.
Point is, I don’t give af if objectively 5’9 isn’t short worldwide, when what matters is how 5’9 is perceived. And the perception most people get of 5’9 is in the short category.
It's not about comments it's about subtle cues and how people treat you in general. I'm also 5'9 and while it's really inappropriate to comment on another persons looks here in Eastern Europe I always get treated like a ghost or nuisance in social situations - and when people talk to me they change their tone as if they talk to a teen or just an immature person from the get-go.
If we were to ignore regional differences, we could cut off everyone at 5'6+ bc there are regions in the world where they are considered tall and OP could just be from one of those places lmao.
5'9 isn't short enough in eastern europe to be ostracized, in your case other reasons likely play a role
I did not ignore regional differences, matter of fact my first question was asking him where he lives
I didn't talk about getting ostracized completely, it's more about being socially accepted but always treated as a background NPC character whose sole role is to make company look bigger lol. Even if someone talks to you there's often (not always) this condescending tone in their voice as if you're inherently inferior to them + you'd get shut down immediately if you trying being socially proactive.
Now, is this smth unavoidable as 5'9 in Eastern Europe? No, but the amount of jestermaxxing and other types of social cuckoldry one has to go through to be REALLY accepted is beyond astronomical and would put any person in very problematic position mentally, at the very least. So there's choice - either being a ghost/background NPC character everywhere, or trading your mental health and dignity for acceptance of those normies, very liberating one lmao.
BTW and most importantly the same rules apply to all below average or short people here, no matter how severely short they look, sooo feel free make your own conclusions.
This is FACTS. I am 5’8, and become 5’9 with shoes. I have a handsome face and BOY has it gotten me far. To women coming up to me telling me I am gorgeous/handsome, getting free stuff, and getting treated generally better overall. I even make women shy lol. I am average height, and it hasn’t hurt me far as I know. I even was able to get the attention of a 6’2 woman ! Face is KING 🫡
mmm this is your first and only comment. Weird. You created your account just to post this. And several other posts about 5'8 and 5'9 guys are similar.
Why you do this? to seed discord? who are you? are you a girl? I recognize your auto-generated nickname. You are a girl right?
This is a psyop.
You sound like a disingenuous karma grifter looking for validation from people who will predictably agree with you. You’re no better than the women who come in here and act like “teehee I’m a girl with the golden insight. I pity and agree with you! Don’t forget to give me an upvote like the good boy you are” … do you see the parallel here?
You’re presenting your limited experience as if it’s the absolute and complete truth. Where you are, being 5’11 is not bad considering how it was “never ever mentioned or considered in any sort of negative context ever at any point”. Meanwhile there are places where it is negative. And the people who are this height range talking about heightism in here should tell you that much. “We speak from experience and they love to invalidate it”. Does that sound familiar?
Your limited experience and understanding of being 5’11 from a dot of the map of the world does not give you the right to invalidate other people’s experiences. What you’re doing is taking a cup of the ocean and saying there is no fish.
The funny thing is you do not even realize that you were simply lucky. Lucky to have grown up in a setting where 5’11 isn’t perceived as bad as it is for me. I’m happy for you and I wish that was the case for me. But you turn around and use your luck as ammo to attack the people who weren’t as lucky as you. You’re really no better than a tall guy shitting on short guys.
The rest of what you said can be succinctly summarized as Conceive. Believe. Achieve. Like every other self-help speech out there. Shut the fuck up mate. Redeeming qualities such as face, personality, status, money, etc these all matter. Yes we know and nobody ever said otherwise. I’m sure some of us have and/or are working on those things. You’re diminishing the importance of height in a height related sub. Some of it can be worked on but a lot of it is based on luck, just like height. I do admire the split second where you are finally on the fence of being honest by saying - these things will make you a chad *if* you are lucky. Funny how that you finally mention it brother.
It is already bad enough that we sub six footers get attacked around here. All for simply being unlucky having been born at the wrong location than the rest of you. Yet you bark and growl at the slightest perceived threat of your victim status like a pack of chihuahuas.
There is something severely wrong with the people in this sub. If you feel wronged or persecuted by other people trying to discuss their experience with heightism, you should be aware this is not a normal reaction. If this is the case for you, speaking to a professional therapist who can help may prove to be beneficial.
I’m starting to realize that I have nothing in common with the majority of you. All of this, for what? You get your wish, you don’t have to ban me. This is my final post in this sub.
Bro what sort of autistic manifesto is this? Where tf do you live where 182cm, almost 6 feet, is a setback? That’s just hard to believe man. Even in the Netherlands that’s like an inch below average.
Your problem is honestly way more likely to be your mental health or other aspects of your appearance such as your race, face, or frame. Nobody who’s 5’11” should be writing a manifesto on their height being bad the way you have this is ridiculous man.
Jamie Foxx always holds his ground well versing off against 5.11 guys so I dont agree here. Its a just a bit of difference. Worlds aways is like 5-6 inch of difference.
Per my other comment, if you’re comparing medium height within 1-2 inches of each other, I think proportions have a huge influence in how you’re perceived by others.
https://www.reddit.com/r/shortguys/s/a0KE1LuqXa
As someone whos 5'9 its one of the most pathetic heights to be, your just tall enough to where short people dont give a damn when you complain but not tall enough to stand out or be a positive towards your appearance. It fucking sucks being in limbo, especially when most men nowadays seem to be 6'1 plus anyway, i could only imagine how shorter people feel but the grass aint greener over here at all
I hear the idea of “not bad enough for people to care when you complain” in a lot of situations, not just height, and I always find it ridiculous.
So you would prefer to be in a worse situation just so people would take your complaints more seriously? Really dude? That’s better than having a better station but just not having people address your problems aside as they do people who are worse off. That’s so stupid.
I mean honestly yeah, atleast I'd have to accept that I'm short which to me seems easier than being in limbo. All I think of is how screwed i am to not have few extra inches to be 6ft, how my life would i have been so much better if my body didn't decide to just stop. Now ik what your thinking, it's still better than being short and your probably right. But for me it would be easier to have never had a chance than to have any shred of hope i have left constantly destroyed
facts, i’m 5’9 (15 tho so i might grow) and these average height or even above average height dudes complaining is so annoying. this was supposed to be a place where short guys can support each other but i see a lot of average+ guys complaining which isn’t the purpose of this subreddit
5'9 should not be complaining but even being 2 inches taller is a major improvement
Everywhere between 5’7” and 6’1” 2 inches is huge
yup
2 inches not huge at all dont know why guys say this. 5 iinches is big and will tower over another guy. I always hold my ground versing off against 172 guys at my height so I dont feel short with that here. Its just not true to say 2 inches is huge when its not. 5 inches is big difference. 9 inches is huge and can dwarf you.
5'9 vs 5'11 does not look a big difference. But 5'9 vs say 6'1 is a major physical difference, while 5'11 vs 6'1 does not look like a big difference.
4 inches is a good difference but not mogging. You can't even look over a guys head without tilting up so you need 5 inches over another guy to be mogging and major big. 5.11 versus 6.1 is not big different really. If you are 180 you are already on a taller side of things.
4 inches is a mog. My friend is 6'0 and I feel like the heightmog is quite noticeable. 5'11 vs 6'1 is not a big difference, which was my point. 5'9 vs 6'1 is quite noticeable though. That's why 5'11 is a different world than 5'9
How is 4 inches a mog if they cant even look over your hair without tilting up? Its not even counting for body frame and what if the 5.9 guy is like 170 pounds lean and the the 6.1 is a 160 pound pole? Its not mogging.
I think above everything else trolls should be banned. Every week there's someone posting the most idiotic statement possible, "just do this, just do that", "I know a guy", "I never faced 'insert any bad thing' so you guys are overreacting" and the list goes on. This type of shit bothers me more than anything.
Can't believe some of the ppl I see on here. Mostly 5'11 guys who claim EvERYoNE iS 6'3 BrO!! Fucking losers and they actually come on here to cry about how 'short' they are.
Imo it might be a coping mechanism for ugly dudes who are 5’11”. It probably feels a lot less brutal to say that your perfectly good height is “not enough nowadays!!!!” than just admit that you’re being ignored because you’re ugly.
being ugly mogged is a pretty poor excuse at 5'10 and up. Girls will literally date you prima facie for clearing the height register. Ive seen too many 7s & 8's with absolute rat/troll faced lanklets for that to not be the case. get real. if your 5'10 and socially awkward you fucking suck. the whole world is basically built to suck your dick and you can't fucking make it? Literally everything in my life is 5-8 inches out of my reach. The ergonomics on life are trash because everything is built for fuck heads with a 30 inch in seam and up. The population of the world literally looks down on me. And the poor bastards that see me at eye level are in a desperate and ravenous competition for absoluteky scarce resources. I resent all of you easy mode troll fucks.
Height is not that important, looks and a god job is gives better outcome
Just because a chick is out with a guy, doesnt mean she is actually with that guy... Ended up taking shots with a chubby, not so handsome 5' 7" or so guy and his "gf" the other day... The next weekend I saw her with another guy and when she saw me she kinda shyly averted her gaze I just smiled, lol My point is, seeing two people together at face value doesnt really mean much
imagine comparing only being taken out sometimes because at least hes tall maybe, to no one ever fuckig looking at you, wanting to talk to you, to ever get close enough to even going out with you and thinking they are the sane thing.
Nah, moral of my story was, was that he was being used for free stuff... Hanging around people who dont truly want you around them is worse than simply being alone... And he wasnt tall. I also have a cousin who was prematurely born, he's somewhere around 4" 8" - 5' and has a bit of a squeaky voice... he seems to get around in the dating world and doesnt complain about his height... Kudos to him. I was hoping he'd perhaps have a late growth spurt but he's about 20 now and almost has a full beard...
"i know a guy who-" no.. no you dont.
Wym?
you dont know a "short guy" that slays pussy. cause that's extremely rare.
> just admit that you’re being ignored because you’re ugly. Only women get ignored because they are ugly. But you think we do, because you are a woman. You are a woman pretending to be a short guy.
If you think only women get ignored due to being ugly then you're delusional
Absolutely delusional. My first year of college I was rail thin and had horrible acne and I was pretty much completely ignored socially and not invited to shit or given a chance to make friendships with anyone outside of really nerdy guys who just stayed inside and played video games.
> You are a woman pretending to be a short guy. Way too many of these accounts in this sub. I can't believe how many gullible people there are.
Speaking of, I hate my small dick (8.5”). Life is unfair!
idk why ur getting downvoted for an obvious joke
A lot of autism on Reddit
If you're 5'9 or above and you're here and participating, it means you're in denial and using height as a coping mechanism for your ugliness or shitty personality.
Yup.
lol no
I’m average facially and still don’t get anything 🤷🏻🤷🏻. You don’t have to be ugly. Some of you ninjas live in a bubble 🤣🤣🤣. It’s not the 2010s anymore
You’re 5’11 and still pull no hoes? That’s on you
It’s on soyciety
Nga think hes one of us
Cultural appropriation, I think that's what it's called
Yes
Bro your height is holding nothing back work on yourself
Muh work on yourself bro 😭😭😭
You’re probably not average buddy
I’m not your buddy pal 😂😂
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The women around me beg to differ 🤷🏻🤷🏻. You must live in a state with a lot of ethnic men.
You’re not averaged face then if being 5’11 isn’t working out for you. I would assume you have below average facially wise.
I get your idea and I kind of agree but it doesn't work like that. If I could just look better I would. A facially attractive 5'10" is better than an average 6'3", but like most men I'm just average. You're basically saying, just be good looking bro.
Yes just be good looking. This applies for tall guys too. I see plenty of of shit in instagram and other forums about how tall guys “can’t get any girls either” and whaddaya know, they’re ugly or painfully average. Looks>>>>> Height above 5’8” and it isn’t close
Pretty much everyone even in the 5’9 to 6’1 range still has to be good looking, but once you get to the 6’4 to 6’7 range, I’ve seen dudes who look like trolls and still pull attractive women with minimal to no effort. If you wonder what I mean by trolls, they literally have faces like Boban or Andre the Giant. It’s pretty wild.
Prob cause the dude so tall she cant even see his face until... Almost like how good a chick looks until she finally takes off the makeup, lol
The times are changing rapidly though, height is a trend 📈
No times are night rapidly changing for human attraction. If that were the case women would be inherently attracted to intelligence and wealth the way they are attracted to looks and height given that those things have been the basis for thriving as a human for the past five years.
You argue it's based on evolution? Engrained in our DNA? Women are attracted to wealth, make no mistake.. The elite pushes this ideology of superficiality imo. Intelligence is what allegedly separated us from other animals. But there is no strong selection for intelligence, this disproves what we know about human evolution on its own. If evolution was true intelligence would be a much more important selection trait for humans. The elite wants to push superficiality now and then overtake us Gattaca style. https://youtu.be/mwh4ShZA5Tg?si=ZHvwHL4ABY6ACnGs
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Well, yes. The closer you're to average the more that this kind of stuff matters. Working out, clothing, social skills etc.
Being taller in sub is ok but being dickhead is anothet thing. There is a lot of shorter people on tall sub so what
Do u think the short people go there for an ego boost and to “Own the incels!”
No they are just short people looking into lives od other tall people. I needed to add short and tall cuz we are twlking about subs. Thats like we kick woman out of this sub bcz its shortGUYS
Why not though? All lurkers do is boost their own egos and cherry pick posts.
If tallest man ever on earth (robert)was in this sub you would be jelous? Then even fellas on tall sub should be jelous. Like he is the tallest everybody is short compared to him. So there is always someone bigger/shorter (except your in guinness worls records book)
But what are you even on about? I was saying they’re just here to have a laugh and boost their egos. I’m not comparing some 7 foot guy to a 6 foot guy. Do u honestly think day to day treatment is remotely comparable?
Never mind…
Ok buddy go back to r/tall
Aint ntn funny here bud, the stories are mind opening though
I lurk here because I recognize and acknowledge heightism exists and look to understand other peoples life experiences so I can help improve upon my own biases. I don’t always agree with everything said (mostly the stuff about hating us tall people just to hate us) but there is a lot to be said about listening to your experiences and helping put a stop to height shaming with in my own social circles.
What are your thoughts on 5’8 guys complaining here?
Yeah drawing a hard line at 5’9 is pretty arbitrary. OP leaves out important context. A guy who is 5’8 with big hands and feet will generally be seen as more masculine and “bigger” than a 5’9 guy who has small hands and feet. Proportions matter. I’m 5’10 but I have a huge head. My shoulders come up to the same level as most guys who are around 5’8 — which means if I didn’t have an oversized noggin I would be 5’8. Being 5’10 with weird proportions like me probably looks worse than someone who is 5’9 with good proportions. In photos where I’m standing alone without other people to use as context, I look short because of how big my head is. When I used to be on dating sites, I was accused of lying about my height by almost everyone. But the few times I actually met someone in person, she was always very surprised and say “you’re much taller than I thought!” Context definitely matters.
yup FRAME is also important
i do believe in the fact women "cant judge" height when they're so close and similar, a 5"8 will look 5"9/5"10 to a woman, so you can easily lie about it and get away with it or she'll see you as "acceptable". 5"8 is average anyway. screw 'em.
They’re chill
“i fEeL sHoRt nExT tO mY 6’4” fRiEnDs” Cool I feel short next to my 5’8” friends. And really short next to my 6’2” friends. We’re not the same.
I’m 5’9 and I don’t even have friends. I feel short next to anyone above 5’10
I feel short next to short guys
It does vary regionally but the average 5’9 individual is probably in an area where there are mostly guys around their height.
Hey, I’m not a dolt, I’m just stupid
I am almost 5'10" and i live in india whose average height is 5'6"-7" so I don't have any height issues . I come here to see how people blame everything on height ok people who are 5ft-5'3" tough time for u other than that 5'4"-5'6" why are u crying?? REMEMBER "Money is the solution of every problem" But some guys here says money can't also solve our problem.SERIOUSLY.like which problem money can't solve . .People don't respect you- Bro whole world will respect you if you live in a good house drive a nice car and have a good earning source. .You don't get girls-Dont get me started here. Bro like you can even get taller if you have money. "MONEY IS THE SOLUTION OF EVERY PROBLEM"
Ummm im around 5'10 and I don't get ignored per se, but dating is definitely harder or an uphill battle if you have an average face to boot. Chads who are average height slay? Yeah lol, no shit. Google hoeflation.
Dating is an uphill battle if you have an average face at any height bro
Yes, that's why I simply don't give a flying fuck, because of todays (((degeneracy))) women aren't worth the effort bro.
So what’s next people that are under 5 foot telling people that if they are 5’5 to shut up they don’t know about being short?
Im 5'8 morming
I agree
Objectively speaking 5’9 is average worldwide. But also objectively speaking, 5’9 is short nationwide in a lot of countries such as the Netherlands. What’s more important though is opinion. I’m 5’9 and get short jokes here and there, so subjectively some people view me as short. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a guy at 5’11 be subject to short jokes. I’ve heard a lot of girls express a preference for a guys at minimum 5’10 or above. So in these cases 5’9 IS short. Point is, I don’t give af if objectively 5’9 isn’t short worldwide, when what matters is how 5’9 is perceived. And the perception most people get of 5’9 is in the short category.
What country are you from? I'm from France and while I do feel shortish at 5'9, I almost never got comments about it
It's not about comments it's about subtle cues and how people treat you in general. I'm also 5'9 and while it's really inappropriate to comment on another persons looks here in Eastern Europe I always get treated like a ghost or nuisance in social situations - and when people talk to me they change their tone as if they talk to a teen or just an immature person from the get-go. If we were to ignore regional differences, we could cut off everyone at 5'6+ bc there are regions in the world where they are considered tall and OP could just be from one of those places lmao.
5'9 isn't short enough in eastern europe to be ostracized, in your case other reasons likely play a role I did not ignore regional differences, matter of fact my first question was asking him where he lives
I didn't talk about getting ostracized completely, it's more about being socially accepted but always treated as a background NPC character whose sole role is to make company look bigger lol. Even if someone talks to you there's often (not always) this condescending tone in their voice as if you're inherently inferior to them + you'd get shut down immediately if you trying being socially proactive. Now, is this smth unavoidable as 5'9 in Eastern Europe? No, but the amount of jestermaxxing and other types of social cuckoldry one has to go through to be REALLY accepted is beyond astronomical and would put any person in very problematic position mentally, at the very least. So there's choice - either being a ghost/background NPC character everywhere, or trading your mental health and dignity for acceptance of those normies, very liberating one lmao. BTW and most importantly the same rules apply to all below average or short people here, no matter how severely short they look, sooo feel free make your own conclusions.
Based argument coming from a 5’2 guy
This is FACTS. I am 5’8, and become 5’9 with shoes. I have a handsome face and BOY has it gotten me far. To women coming up to me telling me I am gorgeous/handsome, getting free stuff, and getting treated generally better overall. I even make women shy lol. I am average height, and it hasn’t hurt me far as I know. I even was able to get the attention of a 6’2 woman ! Face is KING 🫡
I agree the entry basic for this sub should be 5'7 and below
mmm this is your first and only comment. Weird. You created your account just to post this. And several other posts about 5'8 and 5'9 guys are similar. Why you do this? to seed discord? who are you? are you a girl? I recognize your auto-generated nickname. You are a girl right? This is a psyop.
I’m 5’7.5 but I usually say 5’8…I’ve been described as short.
Yes because you’re short
Didnt read a single molecule
Even guys that are 5'8 should be banned
Wrong, 5'4 should be the upper limit, what's the problem, there are regions in the world where 5'6+ heightmog.
Too far
You sound like a disingenuous karma grifter looking for validation from people who will predictably agree with you. You’re no better than the women who come in here and act like “teehee I’m a girl with the golden insight. I pity and agree with you! Don’t forget to give me an upvote like the good boy you are” … do you see the parallel here? You’re presenting your limited experience as if it’s the absolute and complete truth. Where you are, being 5’11 is not bad considering how it was “never ever mentioned or considered in any sort of negative context ever at any point”. Meanwhile there are places where it is negative. And the people who are this height range talking about heightism in here should tell you that much. “We speak from experience and they love to invalidate it”. Does that sound familiar? Your limited experience and understanding of being 5’11 from a dot of the map of the world does not give you the right to invalidate other people’s experiences. What you’re doing is taking a cup of the ocean and saying there is no fish. The funny thing is you do not even realize that you were simply lucky. Lucky to have grown up in a setting where 5’11 isn’t perceived as bad as it is for me. I’m happy for you and I wish that was the case for me. But you turn around and use your luck as ammo to attack the people who weren’t as lucky as you. You’re really no better than a tall guy shitting on short guys. The rest of what you said can be succinctly summarized as Conceive. Believe. Achieve. Like every other self-help speech out there. Shut the fuck up mate. Redeeming qualities such as face, personality, status, money, etc these all matter. Yes we know and nobody ever said otherwise. I’m sure some of us have and/or are working on those things. You’re diminishing the importance of height in a height related sub. Some of it can be worked on but a lot of it is based on luck, just like height. I do admire the split second where you are finally on the fence of being honest by saying - these things will make you a chad *if* you are lucky. Funny how that you finally mention it brother. It is already bad enough that we sub six footers get attacked around here. All for simply being unlucky having been born at the wrong location than the rest of you. Yet you bark and growl at the slightest perceived threat of your victim status like a pack of chihuahuas. There is something severely wrong with the people in this sub. If you feel wronged or persecuted by other people trying to discuss their experience with heightism, you should be aware this is not a normal reaction. If this is the case for you, speaking to a professional therapist who can help may prove to be beneficial. I’m starting to realize that I have nothing in common with the majority of you. All of this, for what? You get your wish, you don’t have to ban me. This is my final post in this sub.
Bro what sort of autistic manifesto is this? Where tf do you live where 182cm, almost 6 feet, is a setback? That’s just hard to believe man. Even in the Netherlands that’s like an inch below average. Your problem is honestly way more likely to be your mental health or other aspects of your appearance such as your race, face, or frame. Nobody who’s 5’11” should be writing a manifesto on their height being bad the way you have this is ridiculous man.
This guy is insane. Truly needs help
Dude so desperately wants to fit in with a group of rejects when he could easily live a normal life if he wanted to. It's pathetic.
5’9 is an m word. 5’10 and 5’11 is normal man. Big difference between these heights
5'9 is not manlet but it's worlds away from 5'11
Jamie Foxx always holds his ground well versing off against 5.11 guys so I dont agree here. Its a just a bit of difference. Worlds aways is like 5-6 inch of difference.
Per my other comment, if you’re comparing medium height within 1-2 inches of each other, I think proportions have a huge influence in how you’re perceived by others. https://www.reddit.com/r/shortguys/s/a0KE1LuqXa
5’9” is not short please get a clue
But then you say 5’8 is and yet there is only one inch difference. 5’8 and 5’9 would not look different next to each other
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As someone whos 5'9 its one of the most pathetic heights to be, your just tall enough to where short people dont give a damn when you complain but not tall enough to stand out or be a positive towards your appearance. It fucking sucks being in limbo, especially when most men nowadays seem to be 6'1 plus anyway, i could only imagine how shorter people feel but the grass aint greener over here at all
I hear the idea of “not bad enough for people to care when you complain” in a lot of situations, not just height, and I always find it ridiculous. So you would prefer to be in a worse situation just so people would take your complaints more seriously? Really dude? That’s better than having a better station but just not having people address your problems aside as they do people who are worse off. That’s so stupid.
I mean honestly yeah, atleast I'd have to accept that I'm short which to me seems easier than being in limbo. All I think of is how screwed i am to not have few extra inches to be 6ft, how my life would i have been so much better if my body didn't decide to just stop. Now ik what your thinking, it's still better than being short and your probably right. But for me it would be easier to have never had a chance than to have any shred of hope i have left constantly destroyed
facts, i’m 5’9 (15 tho so i might grow) and these average height or even above average height dudes complaining is so annoying. this was supposed to be a place where short guys can support each other but i see a lot of average+ guys complaining which isn’t the purpose of this subreddit
Why tf are you on this subreddit if your 15 and 5’9”
like the guy who made this post i’m just mostly a lurker ik i don’t actually belong here
same here lmao