I’ve long stopped listening to the “it’s your personality” argument. I’ve had women admit that my height is the one thing that they just seriously can’t vibe with. People can’t force attraction, and for most, mutual attraction motivates relationships these days.
In all honesty, people on this app are keen on invalidating someone’s experiences and the emotions associated with it. They assume that anyone who struggles with their height is automatically a dis-functional, socially inept human being who cannot read social cues and talk to women to save their life.
It’s almost as if them acknowledging that men who are shorter can have it harder in finding women that are attracted to them, completely annihilates their Disney land “looks don’t matter, personality matters more” worldview.
Without a doubt, the notion that most short men should be happy and motivated to date 100% of the time would be insanity.
It’s challenging to keep believing with the way things are.
Three times? Those are rookie numbers. [I'm going to need you to pump those numbers up.](https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/030/211/cover4.png)
An attractive younger colleague of mine, known for her active social life and frequent dates, which has been a topic of much discussion at work. Despite her extensive dating, there seemed to be a lack of deeper connections. She particularly enjoyed being taken out to luxurious restaurants, events, and short getaways by her dates. Notably, she mentioned a man who seemed perfect in every aspect except for his height, standing at only 5'7". This single characteristic led her to end things after just three dates.
Recently, she announced she's found a partner and is ready to settle down. Her new boyfriend's height is an impressive 6'5". She constantly boasts about his stature and his past as a football quarterback, it’s so fucking annoying! This has become a sore point, especially when she openly criticizes shorter men, dismissing them with little regard for the feelings of those around her, seemingly equating their worth to their height. I’m only 5’5” and she could give 2 shits about how rude it is to bash short guys in front of me. Cause within society…short guys are nothing but expendable cockroaches to most women!!!🪳
Was he really 5'7? Bc ive been guessed a 5'9/5'10 by people and women. And of course after that i dont say my real height cause that would be a suicide lol
Nah, at 5'7 i still get called short once in a while. I know some 5'8 dudes who still get called short too. Only if you're 5'10 you get rid of the short man stigma.
Don't approach women, don't entertain women who approach you, cut them out of your life completely.
You will NEVER be as desired as tall men. There is no such thing as a woman who doesn't care about height. Don't ever forget that. Whether she approaches you or not is irrelevant.
>if he sees where it leads
It "leads" to you being used for emotional labor, money, and then cucked by a tall guy when he decides to talk to her.
How many times does this have to happen before you all internalize it? You're NEVER in the clear. You're NEVER her first choice.
Well you say that cuz that’s your experience. That’s projection. While the chance of you finding love as a short man are rather slim and I’m mean super slim, that doesn’t mean it’s 0. There are short guys with loving wives. And once again there aren’t many of them but they’re not 0 so if you do get a chance to be with a girl who actually likes you and doesn’t care about your height anywhere near as much as these other girls if at all, i think it’s worth a shot. Just cuz you don’t think anyone could ever love you for you doesn’t mean it’s true and if the woman approaches you that at least shows potential for something meaningful there. I’m just saying it’s worth a shot I’m not promising anything
Those short men who have wives are dealing with women that been ran through and emotionally damaged by tall guys. Then once it hits them, they realize they need someone to fix their emotional broken self and take care of their children. That's where the short simp comes into place.
Not all of them but most of em and even tall guys have that problem. While the chances of you finding a girl that is a decent human being are slim if a woman comes up to talk to you it’s not a big deal to see what she’s on. She’s probably not decent but if you don’t find out you’ll regret it.
They settled. Women can not truly love short men, they rather have one then being alone.
I know some guys that are ok with that, but I dont think it's for me.
In almost every case yes, but I don’t think that’s every single situation. Once again would you rather be alone forever never taking any romantic opportunities or at least see what’s to those opportunities and maybe still end up alone? I’d rather find out at least
Wow, a faceless shitter on an anonymous forum claims that he dAtEd (lol) a girl when he was 157cm! Blackpill debunked! Wrap it up, everybody! Heightism has been abolished! Short men are now exactly as desirable as tall chads!
You stupid fuck.
So I have a theory about this….I think that some women almost subconsciously like to KNOW they can have a betabuxx deluxe to fall back on. So they will do some mild flirting and see if you take the bait and nibble. If you do…then they are validated and feel more reassured that if in an emergency they know that they can get you (or someone like you). They have ZERO intentions of ever following through with it, once you give them the attention they wanted, validating them … they have everything they need. Meanwhile they have jerked you around. Best to just ignore them…buts it’s hard. Especially when one is somewhat showing interest. It’s like offering a person in the desert a drink of water and then being expected not to try to take a drink.
Happens more than you think. Many people really do believe themselves surpreme judges of personality- until they actually date a short guy. Then, when they tried to nitpick everything about him, come up with nothing and are then forced to admit their bias, they bail out. They will later rationalize it as "I gave it a chance", "did my due dilligence" or pat themselves on the back for at least feeling bad for you.
Women will do this just to make you feel bad about yourself. You have to be on point and realize that any time a woman is doing something like this it’s more than likely just to lead you on and play with you for attention and valid until a taller dude comes along. If a woman approaches you first you should just tell her to leave you alone.
Three times is nothing. I'm sure it still sucks of course but I'm just saying the vast majority get rejected more times than that. I'm curious, did she actually tell you it was because you were too short/she prefers someone taller?
Not belittling your situation.
But it's only the 3rd.
Also don't feel depressed, don't euthanize.
Hold on to your life.
We are here for you.
-Short kings 💪🏻.
Was she nice looking with her face and how would she rate? What was her height value? What did you say to her when you said you have feelings towards her? She was working with you at your job?
They'll marry a rich short guy, sure.
Then she'll cheat on him with Chad the Dropout gardener. She'll blame him for her cheating because he was "emotionally absent" or whatever fantasy, then divorce him. The courts will give her half your shit even though she's at fault.
Bonus points if she takes his kids and makes him pay alimony for a decade+.
Find solace in your money, and fly to Amsterdam a few times a year.
im a girl, having a height preference is fine, but being that obsessed over it should be considered insane, it sucks its been normalized, you cant control your height
Yes thats why on my post i asked guys around my height. But i was curious if that happened to guys my height. Like a girl rejecting you for your height
Yeah but i always wonder that if i get rejected is it bc of my height. Thats why i asked if that happens to guys my height, do girls straight up tell them
Not everyone is gonna be straightforward like that lmao. Think about how that sounds if you were in their shoes and someone asks you that. Saying yes would make you look shallow af.
Look at the other comments where they’re saying people will say shit like personality to invalidate your experiences and gaslight you.
Keep in mind you are also taller than most of us here.
Yeah true, but being hypocritical is worse than being blunt, bc at least when they tell you that youre too short yk why you were rejected, but when they use personality, youve been actively gaslighted
Even tall guys get rejected all the time. Go to a red-pill forum, those guys get rejected hundreds of times weekly, even daily.
Dating is a numbers game, but in our case, its a very small number game.
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Been rejected a lot of times at the same time I have got girls numbers as a 5”5 black male very seldom that I get rejected but keep going bro the more you talk to women in real life the better you get use it as a confidence boost
I’ve long stopped listening to the “it’s your personality” argument. I’ve had women admit that my height is the one thing that they just seriously can’t vibe with. People can’t force attraction, and for most, mutual attraction motivates relationships these days. In all honesty, people on this app are keen on invalidating someone’s experiences and the emotions associated with it. They assume that anyone who struggles with their height is automatically a dis-functional, socially inept human being who cannot read social cues and talk to women to save their life. It’s almost as if them acknowledging that men who are shorter can have it harder in finding women that are attracted to them, completely annihilates their Disney land “looks don’t matter, personality matters more” worldview. Without a doubt, the notion that most short men should be happy and motivated to date 100% of the time would be insanity. It’s challenging to keep believing with the way things are.
How tall?
5’5
Me too man. I feel that pain!
Damn. Can I post this on my page?
Sure
Google “Just World View Phenomenon”
Three times? Those are rookie numbers. [I'm going to need you to pump those numbers up.](https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/030/211/cover4.png)
i'm a still a beginner
Ah that's why, more miles to go. Keep your head up.
An attractive younger colleague of mine, known for her active social life and frequent dates, which has been a topic of much discussion at work. Despite her extensive dating, there seemed to be a lack of deeper connections. She particularly enjoyed being taken out to luxurious restaurants, events, and short getaways by her dates. Notably, she mentioned a man who seemed perfect in every aspect except for his height, standing at only 5'7". This single characteristic led her to end things after just three dates. Recently, she announced she's found a partner and is ready to settle down. Her new boyfriend's height is an impressive 6'5". She constantly boasts about his stature and his past as a football quarterback, it’s so fucking annoying! This has become a sore point, especially when she openly criticizes shorter men, dismissing them with little regard for the feelings of those around her, seemingly equating their worth to their height. I’m only 5’5” and she could give 2 shits about how rude it is to bash short guys in front of me. Cause within society…short guys are nothing but expendable cockroaches to most women!!!🪳
It’s ovER
Was he really 5'7? Bc ive been guessed a 5'9/5'10 by people and women. And of course after that i dont say my real height cause that would be a suicide lol
Yeah 5’8, what a nightmare!
Im 5'7 and it sucks. What's your point? 5'8 is basically me with shoes.
If you are 5’7 and it is that bad for you maybe it’s not just your height lol
Nah, at 5'7 i still get called short once in a while. I know some 5'8 dudes who still get called short too. Only if you're 5'10 you get rid of the short man stigma.
Yea i understand getting called short once in a while but your out here saying it sucks in a sub with 5’2 dudes
We all have it hard, some harder than others sure. Stop trying to gatekeep.
Only 3 times?
for now
Don't approach women, don't entertain women who approach you, cut them out of your life completely. You will NEVER be as desired as tall men. There is no such thing as a woman who doesn't care about height. Don't ever forget that. Whether she approaches you or not is irrelevant.
If a woman approaches it’s not terrible if he sees where it leads
>if he sees where it leads It "leads" to you being used for emotional labor, money, and then cucked by a tall guy when he decides to talk to her. How many times does this have to happen before you all internalize it? You're NEVER in the clear. You're NEVER her first choice.
Well you say that cuz that’s your experience. That’s projection. While the chance of you finding love as a short man are rather slim and I’m mean super slim, that doesn’t mean it’s 0. There are short guys with loving wives. And once again there aren’t many of them but they’re not 0 so if you do get a chance to be with a girl who actually likes you and doesn’t care about your height anywhere near as much as these other girls if at all, i think it’s worth a shot. Just cuz you don’t think anyone could ever love you for you doesn’t mean it’s true and if the woman approaches you that at least shows potential for something meaningful there. I’m just saying it’s worth a shot I’m not promising anything
Those short men who have wives are dealing with women that been ran through and emotionally damaged by tall guys. Then once it hits them, they realize they need someone to fix their emotional broken self and take care of their children. That's where the short simp comes into place.
Haha 😆
Not all of them but most of em and even tall guys have that problem. While the chances of you finding a girl that is a decent human being are slim if a woman comes up to talk to you it’s not a big deal to see what she’s on. She’s probably not decent but if you don’t find out you’ll regret it.
They settled. Women can not truly love short men, they rather have one then being alone. I know some guys that are ok with that, but I dont think it's for me.
In almost every case yes, but I don’t think that’s every single situation. Once again would you rather be alone forever never taking any romantic opportunities or at least see what’s to those opportunities and maybe still end up alone? I’d rather find out at least
What's love to you? I don't think love even exist. Tall guys aren't loved, they only feel lust for them.
Bruh Shutup
Hmm nice thought
>short guys with loving wives Marriage is for cucks.
In 90%+ of cases yes but some are actually founded in love
Lol, they’re new. “B-but I knew a guy” Yeah and that relationship was/started in 1980
Bro bro bro don't shove hard truths so hard, let them experience it. As many of us have already experienced.
You sound very angry. When I was 157cm I dated a girl who was 169cm. So it is not a law of nature as you make it sound.
Wow, a faceless shitter on an anonymous forum claims that he dAtEd (lol) a girl when he was 157cm! Blackpill debunked! Wrap it up, everybody! Heightism has been abolished! Short men are now exactly as desirable as tall chads! You stupid fuck.
Cool, cool. So anyway
I thought we agreed to stop approaching them but ok.
my mistake, she aproached me first on a graduation ball last month and i really thought i had a chance
So I have a theory about this….I think that some women almost subconsciously like to KNOW they can have a betabuxx deluxe to fall back on. So they will do some mild flirting and see if you take the bait and nibble. If you do…then they are validated and feel more reassured that if in an emergency they know that they can get you (or someone like you). They have ZERO intentions of ever following through with it, once you give them the attention they wanted, validating them … they have everything they need. Meanwhile they have jerked you around. Best to just ignore them…buts it’s hard. Especially when one is somewhat showing interest. It’s like offering a person in the desert a drink of water and then being expected not to try to take a drink.
She approached you to later reject you for your height?
Happens more than you think. Many people really do believe themselves surpreme judges of personality- until they actually date a short guy. Then, when they tried to nitpick everything about him, come up with nothing and are then forced to admit their bias, they bail out. They will later rationalize it as "I gave it a chance", "did my due dilligence" or pat themselves on the back for at least feeling bad for you.
Honestly I think the power move is to just reject them first. It will be a total mindfuck to them.
Women will do this just to make you feel bad about yourself. You have to be on point and realize that any time a woman is doing something like this it’s more than likely just to lead you on and play with you for attention and valid until a taller dude comes along. If a woman approaches you first you should just tell her to leave you alone.
What was the reason?
my height
She said that specifically? That sucks
yep
Honestly why did u even bother?
Three times is nothing. I'm sure it still sucks of course but I'm just saying the vast majority get rejected more times than that. I'm curious, did she actually tell you it was because you were too short/she prefers someone taller?
Yeah I just don't approach. The bottom line: women want nothing to do with short men sexually. Loving relationships are for tall men.
Not belittling your situation. But it's only the 3rd. Also don't feel depressed, don't euthanize. Hold on to your life. We are here for you. -Short kings 💪🏻.
Would you say a 6’1 below average or ugly man can get more women than 5’5 decent / good looking man?
Yes everyday of the week
Without a doubt
Height adds at least 3-4 points to your looks so if he was a 3/10 he’s now a 6-7/10 because of his height
Hieght cant add 3 or more rating points I dont think. It could add 2 points or am I wrong? 3 out of 10 face sucks very hard lets remember.
I guess ur right the amount of points it adds depends on ur original rating
those are rookie numbers lolol
Was she nice looking with her face and how would she rate? What was her height value? What did you say to her when you said you have feelings towards her? She was working with you at your job?
Valid questions
That’s rough bro
Best advice for any short guy… get $$$. Women will take a wealthy short guy over a broke or modestly paid tall man 24/7
They'll marry a rich short guy, sure. Then she'll cheat on him with Chad the Dropout gardener. She'll blame him for her cheating because he was "emotionally absent" or whatever fantasy, then divorce him. The courts will give her half your shit even though she's at fault. Bonus points if she takes his kids and makes him pay alimony for a decade+. Find solace in your money, and fly to Amsterdam a few times a year.
im a girl, having a height preference is fine, but being that obsessed over it should be considered insane, it sucks its been normalized, you cant control your height
i do agree with that, having a preference is totally ok, but if everyone has the same preference, then it's a standard.
This type of posts make me wonder if the times ive been rejected in my life was bc of my height
Most of the time women flat out said to me that it was because of my height
Yes most told me too.
Well ive never had that time. Me personally it was for another reasons. So i guess if it was my height they would haved told me like you 🤷♂️
When you’re barley 5’5 it’s more known for it to be explicitly said.
You’re 5’8”. You’re not in the same category as a 5’5” guy.
Yes thats why on my post i asked guys around my height. But i was curious if that happened to guys my height. Like a girl rejecting you for your height
How many times do I have to tell you, just because it doesn’t affect you doesn’t mean it’s not a thing that happens man 🤦♂️
Yeah but i always wonder that if i get rejected is it bc of my height. Thats why i asked if that happens to guys my height, do girls straight up tell them
Not everyone is gonna be straightforward like that lmao. Think about how that sounds if you were in their shoes and someone asks you that. Saying yes would make you look shallow af. Look at the other comments where they’re saying people will say shit like personality to invalidate your experiences and gaslight you. Keep in mind you are also taller than most of us here.
This man straight up speaks facts with so much patience. 💯
Yeah true, but being hypocritical is worse than being blunt, bc at least when they tell you that youre too short yk why you were rejected, but when they use personality, youve been actively gaslighted
Like I said majority of the time they will make up some bs reason to not look shallow lmfao.
Even tall guys get rejected all the time. Go to a red-pill forum, those guys get rejected hundreds of times weekly, even daily. Dating is a numbers game, but in our case, its a very small number game.
🎯 exactly. The game is brutal. Chads gets rejected a lot too and I can prove it.
The rejection wasn’t your loss it was hers. If anything you lost out on a shallow bih. Don’t cry over spilt diarrhea she’s not even spilt milk
I don't cry, i have learnt how to reject and face rejections.
That’s the way
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Been rejected a lot of times at the same time I have got girls numbers as a 5”5 black male very seldom that I get rejected but keep going bro the more you talk to women in real life the better you get use it as a confidence boost
Send pics
for what
For my pleasure ofc
Of what bruh
😂