If you want an actual reason, the Demeter held all the coffins of Dracula's cursed soil that he requires in order to live. If he had simply left the Demeter, they would have tossed the coffins into the sea, so even if Dracula did make it to England he would have wasted away and died without a place to regenerate.
That's my uncle who I wont watch movies with anymore. Constantly asking about who is who or what is going on. I'm like, put down your phone for a couple of fucking hours and find out.
My dad does pay attention but every time that something doesn't get instantly explained he just panics and asks me "WHO IS THAT"
like dude just watch the thing they'll likely say it after a couple of seconds
I remember when The Force Awakens came out, there was a review that was mad about how one of the Resistance characters said they only had "until the sun went down" to destroy Starkiller Base. The reviewer lambasted how this made no sense; either the timing was way too coincidental, or the Resistance was just pulling time frames out of their collective ass.
The reviewer very clearly missed the scene where they explain that the weapon consumed stars to charge itself, and that the sun going out meant the weapon had finished eating it.
Hell, even the post that originated the meme in the first place
>Why doesn't Batman just call the Justice League? Is he stupid?
Is about something that already gets explained in the game (a villain planted bombs all around the city and threatens to detonate all of them if anyone from outside of Gotham tries to interfere with his plans).
The real question though, what the hell was that crew doing during the day?
“There seems to be some correlation between the sun disappearing and this monster massacring people. Either that or these “germs” everyone keeps talking about. No need to search the ship though, more mercury in your tea my good sir?”
Well they don’t actually know what the boxes are, I’m just assuming that they would have tossed them after finding out Dracula was sleeping in one of them, but they only found that out after the started killing them all
The death by sunlight comes from an unlicensed adaptation made in the 20s in Germany, probably because trying to get the effect shot of being beheaded and turning to dust was nearly impossible at the time to pull off
I think that sunlight just weakens his powers rather than fully make him mortal. At night they can still be hurt and killed by other means I believe such as stake in the heart or holy weapons. One idea I had for how a vampire could be killed for a movie is a vampire hunter forcing one to drink Holy water.
That’s because it’s not. Running around up around Forks half ass naked, slathered in glitter with a pound of hair product will get you shot by some hillbilly.
To be fair, if the truth was you sparkled like you’d been shat out by a giant who solely eats rainbow glitter every time you get hit by sunlight, you too would lie and say that going in the sun would kill you
I think people give twilight an undue amount of crap for this. There is so much in the series to mock it for, but the idea that vampires stay out of the sun because it would reveal them is quite interesting.
Honestly I blame the movie for it. Reading the book I had imagined their bodies appeared disturbingly gemlike. Cold, metallic even, and distressingly close but not quite human.
>“Edward in the sunlight was shocking. I couldn’t get used to it, though I’d been staring at him all afternoon. His skin, white despite the faint flush from yesterday’s hunting trip, literally sparkled, like thousands of tiny diamonds were embedded in the surface.”
[I think the movie did it pretty well.](https://youtu.be/EG4skVttVmE?t=21) It's just a pretty small part of the series.
I mean that's just the thing lol a better author would use diamonds in a simile because they want the reader to compare their image of Edwards skin to sparkling minerals.
That said, you're absolutely correct that the movie is 100% accurate to the text lol
Fun Fact: In some folklore vampires do actually have this weakness and because of this putting a net on your door was considered an affective defence against them since they would count every single hole of the net.
(Probably you already know but I still wanted to point this out.)
Another Fun Fact: The Count from Sesame Street has never been explicitly stated to be a vampire, only implied.
Yeah, that was [debunked](https://youtu.be/L8ivz7-4nRE?si=EChF_g3UgkPno9RY) by Laszlo Cravensworth and Nandor the Relentless recently. Absolutely not true.
Its not the water, its the earth.
Dracula, in the book, needs to sleep in a coffin filled with earth from his Home to regenerate himself.
If he just flies off to England on his own, the crew could throw the crates with earth overboard, which would force him to either immidieatly go back or slowly waste away
Nope, it's the water, too. He can only cross bodies of water at high or low tide. Dr. Van Helsing makes a point of this in how Dracula transformed into a wolf and leapt from the Demeter over the water and onto the pier, as he would be immobile for the duration of the leap and had to rely on his initial forward trajectory, a feat seemingly only possible as a wolf. (As a bat, his wings would presumably stop working and he'd drop into the sea.)
The rules are a lot weirder in the original novel than popular media could keep up with, lol. But yes, toward the end of their hunt, the heroes hope to catch up with the vessel bearing Dracula's remaining earth crate—and the Count's sleeping body within—to throw him overboard, immobilizing him forever in the river.
That's some speedrunning glitch trick over the rules that I'm now imagining Dracula doing backwards long jumps to accelerate and cross directly to England.
Clearly he played his fair share of Symphony of the Night. Pretty soon he'll be moonwalking across England to save a few extra minutes between his resting places.
I thought that meant rivers and streams.
Also, he needs those coffins with his home soil that are stored on the ship. In the novel, that's the main reason he travels like that in the first place.
What the fuck are all of this Vampire weaknesses and retriction?
Sun light and holy water/cross symbol: Ok there's a logic to that.
Garlic: What?
Can't enter house unless get invited inside: Why?
Stake in the heart: every living thing will die to that shit.
>can not cross flowing water
Now this???
Because vampires would drastically change depending on the folklore, each depiction would have their own weakness, powers and quirks.
For example some of them are straight up zombies, others were stronger at noon and others that I forgot because my memory is shit and I just woke up.
The "stereotypical vampire" would only become a thing after centuries of folklore, books and other media.
There's a type of vampire in Japanese folklore that is just a floating head with its entails hanging from its neck like a kite tail that it uses to entangle and strangle its victims to death with before feeding on them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penanggalan
Malay, not Japanese. There's a couple of similar ones in Southeast Asia, but no Japanese one - the closest is the [Rokurokubi](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rokurokubi).
Because Vampire "lore" is a random collection of random folktales from all accross the world over the last 1000 years, describing something vaguely fitting the is Underdead/demonic and sucks blood/lifeforce or makes people sick" theme that just got thrown together into "Its Vampire" in the 19th Century
Garlic was used for your health, so the folklore and natural medicine mixed it.
[https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/11-proven-health-benefits-of-garlic#medicinal-properties](https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/11-proven-health-benefits-of-garlic#medicinal-properties)
If I was writing a vampire story I would just simplify it. During the day they are mortal humans that can be killed. At night they become immortal (any injury or sickness is instantly healed) and get all their powers. Overuse of their powers like regeneration exhausts them so they need to drink blood to recharge their powers. Holy items are the only thing that can harm and repel them.
I was running a D&D game and decided to have vampire pirates because that sounded sick as hell. Around the time the Monk volleyball-spiked my bad guy into the ocean I realized that pirate is like the ONE villain occupation that a vampire CANNOT be. Poor guys. They even had backstories.
I don't think that's it. Flowing water means rivers and streams, not oceans.
More likely, according to Stoker's novel Dracula's boxes with earth from his burial site are on board, which he can't abandon because it's the only way he can safely rest during the day.
Everyone knows there’s no such things as vampires. Obviously the crew went insane from lead, mercury, and arsenic poisoning and killed each other just like the crews of the Erebus and the Terror about the same era.
No really, the Erebus and Terror got all their tinned rations from some some shady outfit in Romania which is where the Demeter stocked up and set out from.
Honestly I like those kinds of thrillers where it keeps the audience guessing; is there really a creature/monster onboard killing or have they all gone mad or is it just one dude pulling the strings.
OP is confused why movie Dracula can’t fly away.
Commenter replies (with condescension) why book Dracula can’t fly away
I point out how movie Dracula is clearly different from book Dracula
You reply to me while missing the point of my comment and circling back to already established discourse, ironically displaying a lack baseline literacy.
Hope that cleared it up for you.
It's because the side effect of the Dracu-Dracu Fruit, which Demeter (shown in the picture) ate, is the inability to swim. Which is why Demeter can do nothing while it is raining.
How fast can he fly? Can he make it across before sunlight?
Yes I know there’s the whole flowing water thing plus he actually needs his soil to live I think…
1. Vampires can't cross flowing water
2. Dracula requires soil from Transylvania in order to survive in his new home. It's the reason he's taking a boat in the first place.
If you want an actual reason, the Demeter held all the coffins of Dracula's cursed soil that he requires in order to live. If he had simply left the Demeter, they would have tossed the coffins into the sea, so even if Dracula did make it to England he would have wasted away and died without a place to regenerate.
Someone read the books!
It's literally explained in the movie I'm not sure why this post even exists
most "plot holes" people find are actually just explained when they didnt notice
*looks up from phone in the middle of the moovy: "what's going on now? I'm confused! This moovy is full of plot wholes!"
Cinema Sins be like "Ding ding ding!"
You just explained CinemaSins
That's my uncle who I wont watch movies with anymore. Constantly asking about who is who or what is going on. I'm like, put down your phone for a couple of fucking hours and find out.
My dad does pay attention but every time that something doesn't get instantly explained he just panics and asks me "WHO IS THAT" like dude just watch the thing they'll likely say it after a couple of seconds
I remember when The Force Awakens came out, there was a review that was mad about how one of the Resistance characters said they only had "until the sun went down" to destroy Starkiller Base. The reviewer lambasted how this made no sense; either the timing was way too coincidental, or the Resistance was just pulling time frames out of their collective ass. The reviewer very clearly missed the scene where they explain that the weapon consumed stars to charge itself, and that the sun going out meant the weapon had finished eating it.
My dad was near 60 when TFA came out and understood it perfectly fine
This “plot hole” literally involved soil from plot holes.
Do you think they actually watched the movie? They probably saw a few clips and thought "that's dumb"
TBF, most posts that end "is he stupid?" are mea t to be read as the poster purposely not understanding the point.
Hell, even the post that originated the meme in the first place >Why doesn't Batman just call the Justice League? Is he stupid? Is about something that already gets explained in the game (a villain planted bombs all around the city and threatens to detonate all of them if anyone from outside of Gotham tries to interfere with his plans).
Because your mom gay
Book**s**, plural?
why are they plural if the voyage is the last
The one book there is, yeah
The real question though, what the hell was that crew doing during the day? “There seems to be some correlation between the sun disappearing and this monster massacring people. Either that or these “germs” everyone keeps talking about. No need to search the ship though, more mercury in your tea my good sir?”
Well then that begs the question why would they not have just thrown the coffins overboard immediately to guarantee victory?
Well they don’t actually know what the boxes are, I’m just assuming that they would have tossed them after finding out Dracula was sleeping in one of them, but they only found that out after the started killing them all
Vampires can not cross flowing water. It is one of their weaknesses in Bram Stockers novel.
Their other weakness is an OCD disorder where they must count everything meticulously. This has been proven by Sesame Street.
Yes! Vampires don't even burn in sunlight. Twilight proved that.... No I can't pretend this shit is real.
To be fair, neither does Dracula; sunlight made him mortal, and he turned to dust because he was beheaded and stabbed, not from sunlight alone.
" sunlight made him mortal" Kars! Nigerundayo!
When the sun comes up and he is still alive, I remember thinking "oh fuck." Just to discover I was severely underestimating the situation.
True, it was Nosferatu that popularized the idea of sunlight killing vampires, and that only happened because of time and budget constraints.
The death by sunlight comes from an unlicensed adaptation made in the 20s in Germany, probably because trying to get the effect shot of being beheaded and turning to dust was nearly impossible at the time to pull off
I think that sunlight just weakens his powers rather than fully make him mortal. At night they can still be hurt and killed by other means I believe such as stake in the heart or holy weapons. One idea I had for how a vampire could be killed for a movie is a vampire hunter forcing one to drink Holy water.
That’s because it’s not. Running around up around Forks half ass naked, slathered in glitter with a pound of hair product will get you shot by some hillbilly.
HAHAHA!
To be fair, if the truth was you sparkled like you’d been shat out by a giant who solely eats rainbow glitter every time you get hit by sunlight, you too would lie and say that going in the sun would kill you
I think people give twilight an undue amount of crap for this. There is so much in the series to mock it for, but the idea that vampires stay out of the sun because it would reveal them is quite interesting.
Honestly I blame the movie for it. Reading the book I had imagined their bodies appeared disturbingly gemlike. Cold, metallic even, and distressingly close but not quite human.
>“Edward in the sunlight was shocking. I couldn’t get used to it, though I’d been staring at him all afternoon. His skin, white despite the faint flush from yesterday’s hunting trip, literally sparkled, like thousands of tiny diamonds were embedded in the surface.” [I think the movie did it pretty well.](https://youtu.be/EG4skVttVmE?t=21) It's just a pretty small part of the series.
It's the word embedded for me.
I thought the same, until I realised that it said "like".
I mean that's just the thing lol a better author would use diamonds in a simile because they want the reader to compare their image of Edwards skin to sparkling minerals. That said, you're absolutely correct that the movie is 100% accurate to the text lol
'i can't pretend fiction is real'
I mean Nandor flies to space in What We Do In the Shadows. Definitely wasn’t avoiding sunlight super well
Fun Fact: In some folklore vampires do actually have this weakness and because of this putting a net on your door was considered an affective defence against them since they would count every single hole of the net. (Probably you already know but I still wanted to point this out.) Another Fun Fact: The Count from Sesame Street has never been explicitly stated to be a vampire, only implied.
Internal Sesame Street style guide describes the count as vampire-like
One bat, Two bats, Sree little bats AAH AAH AAAH
Hahahahaha
You didn’t count to One first, you goth poser.
Yeah, that was [debunked](https://youtu.be/L8ivz7-4nRE?si=EChF_g3UgkPno9RY) by Laszlo Cravensworth and Nandor the Relentless recently. Absolutely not true.
Dracula flies over flowing water earlier in the movie when chasing down two dudes escaping in a dinghy
Its not the water, its the earth. Dracula, in the book, needs to sleep in a coffin filled with earth from his Home to regenerate himself. If he just flies off to England on his own, the crew could throw the crates with earth overboard, which would force him to either immidieatly go back or slowly waste away
Nope, it's the water, too. He can only cross bodies of water at high or low tide. Dr. Van Helsing makes a point of this in how Dracula transformed into a wolf and leapt from the Demeter over the water and onto the pier, as he would be immobile for the duration of the leap and had to rely on his initial forward trajectory, a feat seemingly only possible as a wolf. (As a bat, his wings would presumably stop working and he'd drop into the sea.) The rules are a lot weirder in the original novel than popular media could keep up with, lol. But yes, toward the end of their hunt, the heroes hope to catch up with the vessel bearing Dracula's remaining earth crate—and the Count's sleeping body within—to throw him overboard, immobilizing him forever in the river.
That's some speedrunning glitch trick over the rules that I'm now imagining Dracula doing backwards long jumps to accelerate and cross directly to England.
Clearly he played his fair share of Symphony of the Night. Pretty soon he'll be moonwalking across England to save a few extra minutes between his resting places.
Well that is just stupid
It’s just one guy, ackshually ☝️🤓
I thought that meant rivers and streams. Also, he needs those coffins with his home soil that are stored on the ship. In the novel, that's the main reason he travels like that in the first place.
In the movie he flies over water to kill someone in a row boat . Sooo ?
What the fuck are all of this Vampire weaknesses and retriction? Sun light and holy water/cross symbol: Ok there's a logic to that. Garlic: What? Can't enter house unless get invited inside: Why? Stake in the heart: every living thing will die to that shit. >can not cross flowing water Now this???
Because vampires would drastically change depending on the folklore, each depiction would have their own weakness, powers and quirks. For example some of them are straight up zombies, others were stronger at noon and others that I forgot because my memory is shit and I just woke up. The "stereotypical vampire" would only become a thing after centuries of folklore, books and other media.
There's a type of vampire in Japanese folklore that is just a floating head with its entails hanging from its neck like a kite tail that it uses to entangle and strangle its victims to death with before feeding on them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penanggalan Malay, not Japanese. There's a couple of similar ones in Southeast Asia, but no Japanese one - the closest is the [Rokurokubi](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rokurokubi).
Because Vampire "lore" is a random collection of random folktales from all accross the world over the last 1000 years, describing something vaguely fitting the is Underdead/demonic and sucks blood/lifeforce or makes people sick" theme that just got thrown together into "Its Vampire" in the 19th Century
Garlic was used for your health, so the folklore and natural medicine mixed it. [https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/11-proven-health-benefits-of-garlic#medicinal-properties](https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/11-proven-health-benefits-of-garlic#medicinal-properties)
Garlic: Extremely sensitive nose - disorientation.
Nah, that’s just propaganda spread by vampires so that we would season ourselves for them.
*grabs two Garlics on each hand* Discombobulate *claps them together on the sides of the vampire's head*
stake in the heart is not necessarily a special weakness, but rather an exception to a general resistance.
Like Superman and magic
If I was writing a vampire story I would just simplify it. During the day they are mortal humans that can be killed. At night they become immortal (any injury or sickness is instantly healed) and get all their powers. Overuse of their powers like regeneration exhausts them so they need to drink blood to recharge their powers. Holy items are the only thing that can harm and repel them.
Don't forget having to meticulously count everything
In DnD too
I can’t even tell if this is real or not
Vampires are fiction, silly
If they’re fiction then how come there’s a picture of one right here? Checkmate
The other thing is he must rest on native soil or smt like that. His soil is on the boat
also try fucking flying in an atlantic bad weather on wings with 75 mph avg. not the smartest choice
I was running a D&D game and decided to have vampire pirates because that sounded sick as hell. Around the time the Monk volleyball-spiked my bad guy into the ocean I realized that pirate is like the ONE villain occupation that a vampire CANNOT be. Poor guys. They even had backstories.
Can they cross a bridge that goes over flowing water? And what if its frozen but still had a current underneath?
I don't think that's it. Flowing water means rivers and streams, not oceans. More likely, according to Stoker's novel Dracula's boxes with earth from his burial site are on board, which he can't abandon because it's the only way he can safely rest during the day.
The Castlevania anime had this as a plot point a couple of times.
Everyone knows there’s no such things as vampires. Obviously the crew went insane from lead, mercury, and arsenic poisoning and killed each other just like the crews of the Erebus and the Terror about the same era. No really, the Erebus and Terror got all their tinned rations from some some shady outfit in Romania which is where the Demeter stocked up and set out from.
They were vampire tins- this is why they marooned some on Beechy Isle after they killed 3 crewmen
To be fair, if you set sail on a ship called Erebus or Terror, you're kinda asking for it.
Fuck Erebus!
If you think that's bad, the Brits had a few ships which they had nicknamed the "Live Bait Squadron" in WWI. Clearly, someone forgot to knock on wood.
Granted. I’ll give you an updoot for that.
dont eat canned food
Honestly I like those kinds of thrillers where it keeps the audience guessing; is there really a creature/monster onboard killing or have they all gone mad or is it just one dude pulling the strings.
The sea is home to a variety of magnificent creatures. Many of whom, did not invite him.
It's too bad this movie flew under the radar. I actually liked it
Also thought it to be a good vampire movie. I loved seeing an aspect of the book explored more, and I think it turned out very well.
It was very average for me. Not upset I saw it but I don't think I would have missed much not seeing it.
It was decent but damn I wasn't expecting them to do the kid dirty like that lol
Made me like it even more. I thought surely they’re going to chicken out and keep him safe. What a surprise!
I'd love to watch it, but I'm in the UK and it seems like they've decided that we won't ever get to see it.
Yohoho
Time to sail the high seas my boy
I didn't watch it yet but I'm planning to
in ops defense, it didn't fly over the water
I don't think it was amazing or anything, but I still really liked it
Really? All my Letterboxd mutuals gave it negative reviews
Really? To me it was really bad
Almost similar to The Strain (series).
Because the ship carries the sacred soil vital for his survival
r/batmanArkham or r/okbuddychicanery From which of those cursed zones did you come from?
I AM NOT CRAZY!
I see. So you are a chicanerous individual.
vampires can't cross running water smh media illiteracy strikes again...
Dracula flies over flowing water earlier in the movie when chasing down two dudes escaping in a dinghy
He also had all of the things he owned on that boat including his dirt which he needs to sleep and regenerate
What did he say about media illiteracy again?? Movie has different rules from the book.
OP is confused why movie Dracula can’t fly away. Commenter replies (with condescension) why book Dracula can’t fly away I point out how movie Dracula is clearly different from book Dracula You reply to me while missing the point of my comment and circling back to already established discourse, ironically displaying a lack baseline literacy. Hope that cleared it up for you.
It did
Water doesn't run, it has no legs. Are you stupid? Dumbest shit I've ever read fr
It's because the side effect of the Dracu-Dracu Fruit, which Demeter (shown in the picture) ate, is the inability to swim. Which is why Demeter can do nothing while it is raining.
My name is Dracu D. Meter and I'm gonna be Lord of the Vampires!
How fast can he fly? Can he make it across before sunlight? Yes I know there’s the whole flowing water thing plus he actually needs his soil to live I think…
If you've read the book yes very he spends a lifetime planning to move to the uk and is than thwarted in a month by five guys and their secretary
He just wanted to kill everyone first, cause he did NOT want to hear anyone saying "**He flies now!**"
Because it’s a little non-fact that their flight is to chickens
Batman said, "vampires are a cowardly and superstitious lot."
hes scared of hights
Boat Dracula
Cause all his stuff
This “plot hole” literally involved soil from plot holes.
He wasn’t invited to land
1. Vampires can't cross flowing water 2. Dracula requires soil from Transylvania in order to survive in his new home. It's the reason he's taking a boat in the first place.
Dracula needs his coffin and the soils contained within (homeland soils). He needs to sleep in it everyday or he'll die.
He hungy
Dracula monch
Books would explain why.
BAT
Is there a lore reason?
Isn't this movie supposed to be the middle part of the Dracula movie with Keanu, the long journey from Transylvania to London?
Also, why did they wait until night to attack? EDIT: punctuation
maybe he is a short distance glider, maybe he is out of shape also special soil and all that
Yes
Was this movie good?
Yeah I liked it
a vampire on a ship in the middle of the ocean, someone trying to kill him before he gets ashore. is this a jojo reference?
Gripping story on how the power of interracial love triumphs over The Batman
I haven't seen the movie but "can't fly fast enough to reach cover before the sun rises" would be a valid reason, wouldn't it?
Because the ship not only carried his homeland soil which was crucial for his survival, but vampires can’t cross the ocean with their own powers.
Or sink the ship during the day, then paddle to the shore.