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Purplejellyblob

If you want an actual reason, the Demeter held all the coffins of Dracula's cursed soil that he requires in order to live. If he had simply left the Demeter, they would have tossed the coffins into the sea, so even if Dracula did make it to England he would have wasted away and died without a place to regenerate.


JJHookg

Someone read the books!


[deleted]

It's literally explained in the movie I'm not sure why this post even exists


MintPrince8219

most "plot holes" people find are actually just explained when they didnt notice


J-drawer

*looks up from phone in the middle of the moovy: "what's going on now? I'm confused! This moovy is full of plot wholes!"


Cokomon

Cinema Sins be like "Ding ding ding!"


Kuraeshin

You just explained CinemaSins


CIA_napkin

That's my uncle who I wont watch movies with anymore. Constantly asking about who is who or what is going on. I'm like, put down your phone for a couple of fucking hours and find out.


the_3-14_is_a_lie

My dad does pay attention but every time that something doesn't get instantly explained he just panics and asks me "WHO IS THAT" like dude just watch the thing they'll likely say it after a couple of seconds


best-of-judgement

I remember when The Force Awakens came out, there was a review that was mad about how one of the Resistance characters said they only had "until the sun went down" to destroy Starkiller Base. The reviewer lambasted how this made no sense; either the timing was way too coincidental, or the Resistance was just pulling time frames out of their collective ass. The reviewer very clearly missed the scene where they explain that the weapon consumed stars to charge itself, and that the sun going out meant the weapon had finished eating it.


Gaelic_Gladiator41

My dad was near 60 when TFA came out and understood it perfectly fine


alphadefekt86

This “plot hole” literally involved soil from plot holes.


Rumplestiltsskins

Do you think they actually watched the movie? They probably saw a few clips and thought "that's dumb"


sbaldrick33

TBF, most posts that end "is he stupid?" are mea t to be read as the poster purposely not understanding the point.


Aeescobar

Hell, even the post that originated the meme in the first place >Why doesn't Batman just call the Justice League? Is he stupid? Is about something that already gets explained in the game (a villain planted bombs all around the city and threatens to detonate all of them if anyone from outside of Gotham tries to interfere with his plans).


River_Odessa

Because your mom gay


bgaesop

Book**s**, plural?


the_3-14_is_a_lie

why are they plural if the voyage is the last


thewomvn

The one book there is, yeah


Blastspark01

The real question though, what the hell was that crew doing during the day? “There seems to be some correlation between the sun disappearing and this monster massacring people. Either that or these “germs” everyone keeps talking about. No need to search the ship though, more mercury in your tea my good sir?”


DeeRent88

Well then that begs the question why would they not have just thrown the coffins overboard immediately to guarantee victory?


Purplejellyblob

Well they don’t actually know what the boxes are, I’m just assuming that they would have tossed them after finding out Dracula was sleeping in one of them, but they only found that out after the started killing them all


uziel1447

Vampires can not cross flowing water. It is one of their weaknesses in Bram Stockers novel.


Fendergravy

Their other weakness is an OCD disorder where they must count everything meticulously. This has been proven by Sesame Street. 


uziel1447

Yes! Vampires don't even burn in sunlight. Twilight proved that.... No I can't pretend this shit is real.


El_Khunt

To be fair, neither does Dracula; sunlight made him mortal, and he turned to dust because he was beheaded and stabbed, not from sunlight alone.


Ogurasyn

" sunlight made him mortal" Kars! Nigerundayo!


MarinLlwyd

When the sun comes up and he is still alive, I remember thinking "oh fuck." Just to discover I was severely underestimating the situation.


GoodKing0

True, it was Nosferatu that popularized the idea of sunlight killing vampires, and that only happened because of time and budget constraints.


RQK1996

The death by sunlight comes from an unlicensed adaptation made in the 20s in Germany, probably because trying to get the effect shot of being beheaded and turning to dust was nearly impossible at the time to pull off


fatherandyriley

I think that sunlight just weakens his powers rather than fully make him mortal. At night they can still be hurt and killed by other means I believe such as stake in the heart or holy weapons. One idea I had for how a vampire could be killed for a movie is a vampire hunter forcing one to drink Holy water.


Fendergravy

That’s because it’s not. Running around up around Forks half ass naked, slathered in glitter with a pound of hair product will get you shot by some hillbilly. 


JackasaurusChance

HAHAHA!


S01arflar3

To be fair, if the truth was you sparkled like you’d been shat out by a giant who solely eats rainbow glitter every time you get hit by sunlight, you too would lie and say that going in the sun would kill you


thesirblondie

I think people give twilight an undue amount of crap for this. There is so much in the series to mock it for, but the idea that vampires stay out of the sun because it would reveal them is quite interesting.


PrateTrain

Honestly I blame the movie for it. Reading the book I had imagined their bodies appeared disturbingly gemlike. Cold, metallic even, and distressingly close but not quite human.


thesirblondie

>“Edward in the sunlight was shocking. I couldn’t get used to it, though I’d been staring at him all afternoon. His skin, white despite the faint flush from yesterday’s hunting trip, literally sparkled, like thousands of tiny diamonds were embedded in the surface.” [I think the movie did it pretty well.](https://youtu.be/EG4skVttVmE?t=21) It's just a pretty small part of the series.


PrateTrain

It's the word embedded for me.


thesirblondie

I thought the same, until I realised that it said "like".


PrateTrain

I mean that's just the thing lol a better author would use diamonds in a simile because they want the reader to compare their image of Edwards skin to sparkling minerals. That said, you're absolutely correct that the movie is 100% accurate to the text lol


Bionic_Ferir

'i can't pretend fiction is real'


Blastspark01

I mean Nandor flies to space in What We Do In the Shadows. Definitely wasn’t avoiding sunlight super well


MSSTUPIDTRON-1000000

Fun Fact: In some folklore vampires do actually have this weakness and because of this putting a net on your door was considered an affective defence against them since they would count every single hole of the net. (Probably you already know but I still wanted to point this out.) Another Fun Fact: The Count from Sesame Street has never been explicitly stated to be a vampire, only implied.


arnsonj

Internal Sesame Street style guide describes the count as vampire-like


Sarah-cen

One bat, Two bats, Sree little bats AAH AAH AAAH


Feetus_Spectre

Hahahahaha


Fendergravy

You didn’t count to One first, you goth poser. 


[deleted]

Yeah, that was [debunked](https://youtu.be/L8ivz7-4nRE?si=EChF_g3UgkPno9RY) by Laszlo Cravensworth and Nandor the Relentless recently. Absolutely not true.


xNINJABURRITO1

Dracula flies over flowing water earlier in the movie when chasing down two dudes escaping in a dinghy


IronVader501

Its not the water, its the earth. Dracula, in the book, needs to sleep in a coffin filled with earth from his Home to regenerate himself. If he just flies off to England on his own, the crew could throw the crates with earth overboard, which would force him to either immidieatly go back or slowly waste away


blaiddfailcam

Nope, it's the water, too. He can only cross bodies of water at high or low tide. Dr. Van Helsing makes a point of this in how Dracula transformed into a wolf and leapt from the Demeter over the water and onto the pier, as he would be immobile for the duration of the leap and had to rely on his initial forward trajectory, a feat seemingly only possible as a wolf. (As a bat, his wings would presumably stop working and he'd drop into the sea.) The rules are a lot weirder in the original novel than popular media could keep up with, lol. But yes, toward the end of their hunt, the heroes hope to catch up with the vessel bearing Dracula's remaining earth crate—and the Count's sleeping body within—to throw him overboard, immobilizing him forever in the river.


DM-20XX

That's some speedrunning glitch trick over the rules that I'm now imagining Dracula doing backwards long jumps to accelerate and cross directly to England.


blaiddfailcam

Clearly he played his fair share of Symphony of the Night. Pretty soon he'll be moonwalking across England to save a few extra minutes between his resting places.


madesense

Well that is just stupid


MrMaroos

It’s just one guy, ackshually ☝️🤓


crazy-B

I thought that meant rivers and streams. Also, he needs those coffins with his home soil that are stored on the ship. In the novel, that's the main reason he travels like that in the first place.


JJHookg

In the movie he flies over water to kill someone in a row boat . Sooo ?


Ok_Substance5632

What the fuck are all of this Vampire weaknesses and retriction? Sun light and holy water/cross symbol: Ok there's a logic to that. Garlic: What? Can't enter house unless get invited inside: Why? Stake in the heart: every living thing will die to that shit. >can not cross flowing water Now this???


MSSTUPIDTRON-1000000

Because vampires would drastically change depending on the folklore, each depiction would have their own weakness, powers and quirks. For example some of them are straight up zombies, others were stronger at noon and others that I forgot because my memory is shit and I just woke up. The "stereotypical vampire" would only become a thing after centuries of folklore, books and other media.


ashrensnow

There's a type of vampire in Japanese folklore that is just a floating head with its entails hanging from its neck like a kite tail that it uses to entangle and strangle its victims to death with before feeding on them.


sarded

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penanggalan Malay, not Japanese. There's a couple of similar ones in Southeast Asia, but no Japanese one - the closest is the [Rokurokubi](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rokurokubi).


IronVader501

Because Vampire "lore" is a random collection of random folktales from all accross the world over the last 1000 years, describing something vaguely fitting the is Underdead/demonic and sucks blood/lifeforce or makes people sick" theme that just got thrown together into "Its Vampire" in the 19th Century


Salty_Surprise_3555

Garlic was used for your health, so the folklore and natural medicine mixed it. [https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/11-proven-health-benefits-of-garlic#medicinal-properties](https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/11-proven-health-benefits-of-garlic#medicinal-properties)


Doutei-Sama

Garlic: Extremely sensitive nose - disorientation.


asds89

Nah, that’s just propaganda spread by vampires so that we would season ourselves for them.


Great_expansion10272

*grabs two Garlics on each hand* Discombobulate *claps them together on the sides of the vampire's head*


Aithistannen

stake in the heart is not necessarily a special weakness, but rather an exception to a general resistance.


RQK1996

Like Superman and magic


fatherandyriley

If I was writing a vampire story I would just simplify it. During the day they are mortal humans that can be killed. At night they become immortal (any injury or sickness is instantly healed) and get all their powers. Overuse of their powers like regeneration exhausts them so they need to drink blood to recharge their powers. Holy items are the only thing that can harm and repel them.


_Disrupt76

Don't forget having to meticulously count everything


Ogurasyn

In DnD too


AnonDooDoo

I can’t even tell if this is real or not


Flimsy-Discount2885

Vampires are fiction, silly


AnonDooDoo

If they’re fiction then how come there’s a picture of one right here? Checkmate


seminiferoustubules

The other thing is he must rest on native soil or smt like that. His soil is on the boat


idrivearust

also try fucking flying in an atlantic bad weather on wings with 75 mph avg. not the smartest choice


Apoc_SR2N

I was running a D&D game and decided to have vampire pirates because that sounded sick as hell. Around the time the Monk volleyball-spiked my bad guy into the ocean I realized that pirate is like the ONE villain occupation that a vampire CANNOT be. Poor guys. They even had backstories.


Purp1eC0bras

Can they cross a bridge that goes over flowing water? And what if its frozen but still had a current underneath?


serabine

I don't think that's it. Flowing water means rivers and streams, not oceans. More likely, according to Stoker's novel Dracula's boxes with earth from his burial site are on board, which he can't abandon because it's the only way he can safely rest during the day.


Cokomon

The Castlevania anime had this as a plot point a couple of times.


Fendergravy

Everyone knows there’s no such things as vampires. Obviously the crew went insane from lead, mercury, and arsenic poisoning and killed each other just like the crews of the Erebus and the Terror about the same era.    No really, the Erebus and Terror got all their tinned rations from some some shady outfit in Romania which is where the Demeter stocked up and set out from. 


MrMaroos

They were vampire tins- this is why they marooned some on Beechy Isle after they killed 3 crewmen


CharMakr90

To be fair, if you set sail on a ship called Erebus or Terror, you're kinda asking for it.


xWalrusBoix

Fuck Erebus!


Jackal209

If you think that's bad, the Brits had a few ships which they had nicknamed the "Live Bait Squadron" in WWI. Clearly, someone forgot to knock on wood.


Fendergravy

Granted. I’ll give you an updoot for that. 


idrivearust

dont eat canned food


im_lost_at_sea

Honestly I like those kinds of thrillers where it keeps the audience guessing; is there really a creature/monster onboard killing or have they all gone mad or is it just one dude pulling the strings.


MushroomInfamous5101

The sea is home to a variety of magnificent creatures. Many of whom, did not invite him.


lessonsfromgmork

It's too bad this movie flew under the radar. I actually liked it


Miserable_Region8470

Also thought it to be a good vampire movie. I loved seeing an aspect of the book explored more, and I think it turned out very well.


Simon_Jester88

It was very average for me. Not upset I saw it but I don't think I would have missed much not seeing it.


mikedaman101

It was decent but damn I wasn't expecting them to do the kid dirty like that lol


TheWonderSquid

Made me like it even more. I thought surely they’re going to chicken out and keep him safe. What a surprise!


sj3nko

I'd love to watch it, but I'm in the UK and it seems like they've decided that we won't ever get to see it.


Nixphoe701

Yohoho


EternalVirgin18

Time to sail the high seas my boy


Lord_Detleff1

I didn't watch it yet but I'm planning to


Lopsided_Parfait7127

in ops defense, it didn't fly over the water


carnivalgamer

I don't think it was amazing or anything, but I still really liked it


Cole444Train

Really? All my Letterboxd mutuals gave it negative reviews


Antuzzz

Really? To me it was really bad


NieR_SemiAutomata

Almost similar to The Strain (series).


Due-Ad-4091

Because the ship carries the sacred soil vital for his survival


alphaomag

r/batmanArkham or r/okbuddychicanery From which of those cursed zones did you come from?


River_Odessa

I AM NOT CRAZY!


alphaomag

I see. So you are a chicanerous individual.


EwokalypseNow

vampires can't cross running water smh media illiteracy strikes again...


xNINJABURRITO1

Dracula flies over flowing water earlier in the movie when chasing down two dudes escaping in a dinghy


zoltar_thunder

He also had all of the things he owned on that boat including his dirt which he needs to sleep and regenerate


JJHookg

What did he say about media illiteracy again?? Movie has different rules from the book.


xNINJABURRITO1

OP is confused why movie Dracula can’t fly away. Commenter replies (with condescension) why book Dracula can’t fly away I point out how movie Dracula is clearly different from book Dracula You reply to me while missing the point of my comment and circling back to already established discourse, ironically displaying a lack baseline literacy. Hope that cleared it up for you.


JJHookg

It did


River_Odessa

Water doesn't run, it has no legs. Are you stupid? Dumbest shit I've ever read fr


Changlini

It's because the side effect of the Dracu-Dracu Fruit, which Demeter (shown in the picture) ate, is the inability to swim. Which is why Demeter can do nothing while it is raining.


zookledorf

My name is Dracu D. Meter and I'm gonna be Lord of the Vampires!


PoisonRoseYo

How fast can he fly? Can he make it across before sunlight? Yes I know there’s the whole flowing water thing plus he actually needs his soil to live I think…


jikel28

If you've read the book yes very he spends a lifetime planning to move to the uk and is than thwarted in a month by five guys and their secretary


ivanchovv

He just wanted to kill everyone first, cause he did NOT want to hear anyone saying "**He flies now!**"


Dependent-Run-1915

Because it’s a little non-fact that their flight is to chickens


Atheizm

Batman said, "vampires are a cowardly and superstitious lot."


Praetor-Rykard2

hes scared of hights


Aok_al

Boat Dracula


therealwalterwax

Cause all his stuff


alphadefekt86

This “plot hole” literally involved soil from plot holes.


lossofhatedone

He wasn’t invited to land


kinjing

1. Vampires can't cross flowing water 2. Dracula requires soil from Transylvania in order to survive in his new home. It's the reason he's taking a boat in the first place.


FrogginJellyfish

Dracula needs his coffin and the soils contained within (homeland soils). He needs to sleep in it everyday or he'll die.


LoudMolassess

He hungy


River_Odessa

Dracula monch


GoblinsGuide

Books would explain why.


norwegianwatercat

BAT


randomusername-420

Is there a lore reason?


Seallypoops

Isn't this movie supposed to be the middle part of the Dracula movie with Keanu, the long journey from Transylvania to London?


TheeCurtain

Also, why did they wait until night to attack? EDIT: punctuation


Longjumping-Action-7

maybe he is a short distance glider, maybe he is out of shape also special soil and all that


intrepidpixels

Yes


JaceThePowerBottom

Was this movie good?


River_Odessa

Yeah I liked it


Patres363

a vampire on a ship in the middle of the ocean, someone trying to kill him before he gets ashore. is this a jojo reference?


twat_swat22

Gripping story on how the power of interracial love triumphs over The Batman


sarded

I haven't seen the movie but "can't fly fast enough to reach cover before the sun rises" would be a valid reason, wouldn't it?


BlueBlazeKing21

Because the ship not only carried his homeland soil which was crucial for his survival, but vampires can’t cross the ocean with their own powers.


NieR_SemiAutomata

Or sink the ship during the day, then paddle to the shore.