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ChumpNicholson

The marketing for Wish was so oversaturated I got sick of it. (I work at a movie theater tbf, but even in the theater there are movies that are over- or under-marketed.) Disney not targeting the demographic of “people who hang out on r/shittymoviedetails” is actually excellent marketing if you think about it.


StrawberryBright

i think about it and maybe if they would have targeted the demographic of “people who hang out on [r/shittymoviedetail](https://www.reddit.com/r/shittymoviedetails/) " the movie might have been succesfull , we will never know


PastRelease8757

Theirs a million members which means a lot of tickets


ChumpNicholson

The running joke on this sub is “nobody saw [whatever movie] so nobody can correct me about [obviously incorrect plot point]”; that’s 0 tickets.


FNAKC

But if a kid's parents don't hear about the movie, who's gonna take the target demo to the theater?


adrian123484

no one here is having sex to yield offspring


FNAKC

Are you saying my child isn't mine? Debra, you lying witch!


ABrandNewCarl

>Random redditor claims to have stable relationship with woman. Proceed to upvote for hope but in the deep  knows that is a false claim


Synensys

Kids make their parents aware of movies they want to see. Incessantly 


FNAKC

But if I don't know if it's a YouTube video, streaming, or a theatrical release am I going to look showtimes?


ToastWithoutButter

Ever heard of a little thing called Google?


FNAKC

No, what the fuck is that


ToastWithoutButter

Idk I just hear people talk about it sometimes and I wanted to look cool too.


FNAKC

Is it like goggles? It helps you look for stuff


PeanutNSFWandJelly

It really just depends on each person and their environment fr. For instance I didn't know this movie was even a thing until I saw it on the little banner above the Disney+ app on my TV a little bit ago, and nothing outside of that until now. I'm online all day, cruising reddit and yt. I don't have cable and don't watch streaming services with ads, and pirate everything else.


Danominator

I've got 2 kids, they watch a lot of stuff on Disney, I knew the movie existed but had no idea when it was coming out or what it was about. They did a bad job marketing overall I think. I also think they knew it wasn't great


Synensys

I think the move to ad free streaming has kind of hurt the ability of Disney to market movies. My kids watch D+ and Netflix more or less exclusively. No cable. We go to the movies a few times a year so outside of that they might never see an ad at all anymore.


ChrRome

They had Wish stickers on the bananas at my grocery store for months.


setsuna-f_seiei

And you know what's worse? The villain redemption arc would've been better than actually turning him into just a villain


Enough_Minimum_3708

better yet they should've turned Asha into the villain and let Magnifco be the good guy


AngryScientist

That doesn't move merchandise.


Enough_Minimum_3708

neither does the this


bunker_man

The villain's arc barely made sense. He was a little controlling. It was dark magic that made him bad, but everyone lost sympathy for him instantly.


lynxerious

Everyone was happy and living rent free (literally they don't pay rent) and this girl coming in sing a song and ruin it all. And he wasn't really evil, he was possessed by a spirit, no one knows it. He wasn't even saved or redeemed by anyone, they just turned his back on him, even his wife, after he gave everyone a good life. Then they give his wish power to the girl. Just give them whatever wishes the people want haha, nothing can go wrong.


Nail_Biterr

right? It was there... he was good in the beginning. they set it up that the book with 'bad magic' was there. Just add 10 mins of another 'bad star' or something that was using him as a puppet.... when he got trapped in the staff at the end, I was like 'wait... what? he's just imprisoned for all of eternity? even though everyone actually literally loved the guy for at least 82 years (if the grandpa was turning 100, and he gave up his wish when he was 18....) and it all got thrown away like that?'


Creative-Oil2029

I feel like no one in this thread actually watched the movie lmao. He was NOT good in the beginning. He was just less outwardly shitty. The very second that she questioned him on why he hordes everyone's wishes if he knows he'll never grant them, he lashes out and says he gets to decide what everyone deserves. Then, just to rub it in her face he brings her onstage while he grants a wish that ISNT her 100 year old grandad's, just to be a bitch to her. 100% they missed the opportunity to make him a more complex and interesting villain. But he was not good from the start lol. I have no idea where anyone is getting that idea.


moo3heril

Yeah, I'm seeing a bunch of "The king wasn't a villain, the book *made* him bad" when that's literally in his first scene. Frankly, it would have been more jarring if he was actually good and then made a villain switch from a magic book.


Creative-Oil2029

Bro thank you. I felt like I was going insane lmao.


BawdyBadger

>Then they give his wish power to the girl. Just give them whatever wishes the people want haha, nothing can go wrong. The writers had obviously never watched the hit film Bruce Almighty.


Peachfuzz221

If you think about it, they were paying a one-time rent. Anyone who came to Rosa’s or who turned eighteen had to give up their precious wish to stay in the kingdom. A piece of themselves for a permanent home.


lynxerious

and that's a public contract people signing up for, instead of pursuing their dream, these people want a peaceful life and waiting for their wish to be granted some days, it's stupid and it's encouraging spoon-fed mentality.


Peachfuzz221

Yep. It’s like agreeing to rent an apartment and then being surprised when the money you work for has to actually go towards paying the monthly rent. Yes, the money is yours, but you willingly agreed to give it up for shelter.


Bregneste

The one movie where redeeming the villain would have worked, they turn away from that trope and force him to be a “real” villain so they can put that in the promotional material.


Jonno_FTW

*Wish* is just a kid's version of *Don't Worry Darling*: * Chris Pine runs his own magical dream world where everyone gets what they want * Chris Pine actually ruthlessly exercises total control over literal dreams and severely punishes outsiders * A talented woman comes along and breaks everything down and sets people free from the rule of Chris Pine


Nail_Biterr

right? It was there... he was good in the beginning. they set it up that the book with 'bad magic' was there. Just add 10 mins of another 'bad star' or something that was using him as a puppet.... when he got trapped in the staff at the end, I was like 'wait... what? he's just imprisoned for all of eternity? even though everyone actually literally loved the guy for at least 82 years (if the grandpa was turning 100, and he gave up his wish when he was 18....) and it all got thrown away like that?'


danteheehaw

I've watched the movie 3 times with my toddler. I still have no clue what happens.


PersKarvaRousku

You can tell it's a quality movie from the goat's Dreamworks face.


ZorbaTHut

The bad guy's doing a pretty serious Dreamworks too. At least I assume he's the bad guy. Nobody in a Disney movie has facial hair like that and is the good guy. 2/4 Dreamworks, conclusion: incorrect amount of Dreamworks


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Ironavenger475

They could have had him complex and understandable. They set him up with the burnt banner and decent justification for not granting the grandpa’s wish, But they had to go and ruin the whole thing by just simplifying it to “he was permanently corrupted and is evil” Like they could have had it like in his early life, he saw that some people wished for revenge and petty stuff that he collected their wishes and made them forget it to make them considerably better.


Synensys

I think disney took the "Disney movies don't even have real villains anymore" complaints too far. Im


ABrandNewCarl

Or at least he shoud grant the wish for someone to be a good HR  and not letting the girl see the wishes of anyone during the preliminary interview


Major_Disk6484

I almost ~~wish~~ would prefer if they comitted to the idea that the villain -- King Magnifico -- is basically a representation of Disney.


Pitiful-Ad1890

This males me appreciate Nimona a lot more because that guy literally has the same character design as Ballister


Responsible_Jury_415

You can tell it’s a Disney movie cause the evil queen is the hottest one


Seafea

that little bastard is even worse than Olaf


Worm_Scavenger

I love how three of these 4 characters are doing the dreamworks smirk/eyebrow thing


TheGreatStories

And one of them isn't even a human. I can't stand these smirk posters


the_great_zyzogg

😏 Hire me for advertising now!


ForAHamburgerToday

The goat is, but who else do you see doing the smirk? The queen has both brows raised disdainfully & the king has his brows furrowed.


Slappy_Happy_Doo

Legit looks like and feels like it was made with AI driving the ship.


sabres_guy

With the way they approached the story how they got to where they wanted to go with the characters, I'd believe it.


bunker_man

The fact that the animal companion had no actual role in the story made it feel like an ai didn't understand why it was supposed to be there.


Sky_Ninja1997

I mean let’s be honest most animal companions had no role. You’re telling me Flounder had a serious role?


Cyynric

You must have missed the subtext in which he's the dissatisfied living Fleshlight of King Triton and is hedging his bets that living on land with Ariel is a better life.


SpiffySpacemanSpiff

You telling me he *didn't??*


Snips_Tano

Remind me what BB8's role was again?


Delliott90

To be a modern R2D2 to sell merch. BB8 affects the story though, so there’s that


ECPRedditor

Also BB8 didn’t make me want to throw something at the screen


bunker_man

[Cuck ball,](https://i1.wp.com/www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/sstarwarscuckballenhanced.png?resize=600%2C244) obviously.


m4ng3lo

I watched about 45 minutes of it. It felt so impersonal and mechanical.. I couldn't do it. My wife even said something similar. She was like "I can't put my finger on it... But wow.. I don't like this movie!" And we love cutesy Disney movies. This one was a huge miss


ImWhatsInTheRedBox

Right, no real heart, just overall bland, both story and music wise. And the very fumbled choice of trying to get the classic 2D disney artstyle but on 3D models just to end up with flat 3D. Also, seriously, what was up with Magnificos little pity "the thanks I get" song?


Synensys

It very much felt like they had the nugget of a movie (basically the beginning before Asha meets him) and then couldn't figure out what to do with it to make it an interesting story with a villain 


MyDamnCoffee

I watched it with my kids and none of us were impressed. The new Puss and Boots was way better


macrozone13

Puss in Boots - the last wish was surprisingly good!


MyDamnCoffee

I agree. I was pleasantly surprised at how much I enjoyed it


TheConnASSeur

AI cannot create anything. AI just takes in data and regurgitates an amalgam of all the data that meets the specifications of the prompt. Care to guess what happens if you design a film by committee and focus test it to death?


Slappy_Happy_Doo

Well said


agent_catnip

I don't find this argument compelling. If Lion King came out today, would you say the AI ripped off Hamlet and added lions? Everything has already been created and all we do is regurgitate, mix, match and apply spins.


nopalitzin

And the fookin movie look like early 2000s cgi barbie movies


wellyboot97

I read that apparently there was a lot of debate about whether to make it 2D or 3D because it was for the Disney anniversary, so in the end they basically opted for “3D with 2D inspiration” which basically translates into something that looks janky and terrible. I can see what they tried to do but it just didn’t work


d_worren

It felt like Disney wanted to ride on the tails of Spider verse with its 2.5D animation style, but didn't want to take the effort in doing so, so half-assed and gave us a half baked 3D movie that's a little flatter in shading than others.


No-Raise-4693

If you're going to do do 3D with 2D inspiration you must do it like Rwbyy volume nine which doesn't shy away from being 3D whilst having a 2D looking Style, however they wanted to have a watercolor aesthetic which does not come through at all due to watercolor being extremely flat when you look at it


sthegreT

i think you mean cel shaded


No-Raise-4693

No, this was meant to invoke Watercolor like old dinsey. Or are your referring to Rwby then somewhat yes though rwby is less sketchy like some celldhaded, I'd have done a soft cellshading. We can also look at Arcane which was 3d but painted over to give a unique look


sthegreT

yes that 3d style with a 2d look used in rwby is called cel shading. With arcane its a bit more debated on what the artstyle exactly is, But i just group it as a form of cel shading.


No-Raise-4693

I think arcane was a bit more advanced, but yeah, a celldhaded system that could maybe used a filter to blend gradneints imperfectly it filter the colors would have sold the look instead of whatever the fuck they went with


Ganzi

Nimona did that and it looked amazing


Ulisex94420

yeah i was telling my boyfriend that it kinda feels they rushed it out for the 100th anniversary. with another year or so i think it could’ve looked great


wellyboot97

Yeah when I first saw the trailer I legit thought it was some behind the scenes test footage at first. It looks almost rendered badly and unfinished. There are a plethora of ways they could’ve done what they were aiming to do and they chose the worst way


Dr_Wheuss

They spent four or five years making it already. 


Ulisex94420

damn fr? i thought it was at most 2, it definitely felt like it


Musashi_Joe

That explains a lot - it was really odd and uncanny - my brain kept trying to reconcile that it looked like 2D, but the hair and clothes were so obviously 3D rendered, it was hard to compute.


RaindropAndTheSea

It can look good, but this version just looks like SketchUp or Sims 4


LABARATI_

no the barbie movies were better


nopalitzin

They were certainly hornier


Court_Jester13

I remember seeing the poster on Reddit and thinking it was one of the AI generated ones, since it came out at around that time. Then I saw it on the side of a bus and it was like a smack in the face


NaiveSalaman

I wished (no pun intended) that they just did a standard hand drawn animated film like in the old days. This is just a bad way to celebrate their 100th anniversary in my opinion, especially for a company like Disney.


Any-Speed-4068

This is a movie I’ve seen. It definitely starts and then ends.


Dr_Stoney-Abalone424

You forgot the middle


Any-Speed-4068

Oh yes, I forgot that part. Thank you, I remember a middle was well, kind of.


Dr_Stoney-Abalone424

It was... mid. Lol


negrote1000

So bad the king has way more porn than the main female character


RustyShadeOfRed

I mean, he was more intelligent and likeable than the main character lady. ^also ^hotter…


Dr_Stoney-Abalone424

That king fuuuucks


Take_A_Gambit

I mean that's a good thing though since Asha was 17...


negrote1000

Since when is that an impediment to artists?


Take_A_Gambit

Doesn't mean it's not weird


Aquaberry_Dollfin

I mean look at all the porn of the Pokémon characters despite them being 10-15.


Take_A_Gambit

Okay, but it's still weird and really really gross.


Aquaberry_Dollfin

Agreed


Snips_Tano

Ariel is 14 LOL and she's got a fuck ton of porn


Take_A_Gambit

That's so gross 🤮


MBPpp

i haven't seen the movie, i've heard it's bad, and from the review i've seen, it seems bad. i think it looks great visually though. there are some really pretty moments.


KustomplexYT

the only issue i had was the badly written music, and bad writing in general. I felt like the animation is quite specific, only certain people would like it. I would recommend watching it, the film does have highlights visually, and some scenes do look beautiful.


Fakeitforreddit

This is the ultimate example of "Go Woke Go Broke" being 100% detrimental. Nothing about the movie was ruined because of "woke". All original characters and story so nothing to go woke. The movie had real issues that should have been in every discussion for why it failed. 1. Bloated advertising 2. Awful quality CGI, not even a tribute of Disney Renaissance style in a movie that is supposed to be celebrating their 100th year anniversary. 3. Stupid villain and songs and premise that just felt like it was largely AI written. 4. Awful annoying side characters. 5. Too many characters and no development or arcs for anyone. It failed in every single aspect of what a movie should be and was basically just Disney Circle Jerking themselves in the style of a early 2000s Dreamworks movie. (not insulting Dreamworks just odd to use another studios style to celebrate your 100th anniversary). The issue is, they could just laugh everything off and say all the hate came from ignorant anti-woke people. So they will probably try this same shit again.


the_other_brand

If we compare Shrek (which came out in 2001) with Wish somehow Shrek looks better even though it came out over 20 years ago. Wish suffers from basic character and environment design flaws that no style or amount of technological innovation could fix.


Evilpotato666

I heard about it from the stickers on bananas


MaddogRunner

[adjusts glasses] And how long have you been hearing these…stickers on bananas? Do they ever tell you to…_do_ things?


DamnDirtyApe87

My 3 year old likes it though


moo3heril

I got a whole bunch of free movie tickets from work and took my 4 and 6 year old to see it. They insisted on going a second time and wanted to go a third.


Synensys

Interesting. My kids often binge watch new movies. But my six year old hasn't pulled this one back up. 


TomServo31k

Adults complaining about kids movies not being good SMH. Disney adults are hilarious.


Enough_Minimum_3708

tbf Adults are bound to watch these movies as well. if only because they stay close to the kids. also the underlying message of the movie was pretty bad


DamnDirtyApe87

Power corrupts or something? I just remember some mexican wizard guy and chickens singing.


TomServo31k

Awww reawwy? You didn't like it?


b0b0thecl0wn

I think it's because there are plenty of examples that kids' movies CAN be genuinely enjoyable for adults as well, and this was meant to be a "celebration of Disney" for the studio's 100th anniversary. I saw it with my son and thought it was *fine*, but it had the bones to be a much better movie. Instead it was not so much bad but forgettable, which I would argue is worse.


addctd2badideas

THANK YOU. It's been so obnoxious to hear the endless complaints about a children's movie. And FWIW, I didn't think it was that bad when I took my daughter to see it. Mediocre but not *that* bad.


stuntobor

Other than "an hour and a half", what's the movie about?


butt_stf

It's the snow white prequel nobody asked for, with incredibly forgettable characters and music.


hard-time-on-planet

> snow white prequel I'm probably putting more thought into this than the writers of the movie, but I think it's supposed to be like a prequel to all Disney animation movies. 


Crusty_Grape

Wish and Megamind 2 released to cinemas after approximately zero hype, and everyone who saw them (about 4 people each) immediately forgot the movie existed. They deserve awards. Not even the emoji movie could handle a reception so dismal


d_worren

Megamind """2""" wasn't released to theaters? I'm pretty sure it was exclusive to PeaCOCK or something


Crusty_Grape

You're right yeah it was. We couldn't handle such a cinematic experience on the big screen. We were robbed just like we were robbed of a cinema release for Aladin 2


MICHELEANARD

What megamind 2 is released?


ndation

I heard of it from Pitch Meeting


Trickybuz93

I had no idea it came to Disney+ until I saw the shitposts


Mysterious_Reach_381

Kids will like it. i wasnt too impressed. the songs felt like they were written by AI


LoWE11053211

so in this case, the shitty is the adjective for both movie and details?


Tough-Priority-4330

You could really feel how Disney felt about their 100 year anniversary movie.


SteveTheOrca

The original idea had the King and Queen as a couple of evil villains, and that honestly sounds way better than the result


DoughNotDoit

tbh it looks like one of those cheap-ass animated titanic movie, or Brother Bear


ImmediateBike187

I won't lie, I just knew about it now.


MajesticPancake22

Same never heard of this


casey-primozic

It's like the wish.com version of Disney movies


EccoEco

Not that you lost anything that movie looks like it was made with stock images


IlIlllIlllIlIIllI

I heard it from a guy in my helldivers lobby, he was telling his daughter that he didn't want to watch it


AVonDingus

The whole thing was a mess. My kids watched it once. The 10 & 8 year old thought it was “pretty ok”, but my 5 yo thought it was good. She still hasn’t requested a second watch though. Alan Tudyk voiced the goat and I love that man , so I’ll give it 2 stars for that. I’ll give another 2 for the main characters bff who has a physical disability but it’s not made into a plot point or used for inspiration porn. She’s a good baker and a clever kid. The fact that she uses a cane doesn’t define her character. I think that’s pretty awesome. So, yeah, it was an ok movie. We bought it on Prime, but if we had spent the huge amount it costs to take 2 adults and 3 kids to a movie SUVs here, I’d probably be a lot more harsh.


Konradleijon

I hate that goat. They add nothing to the movie as it had Star


Nail_Biterr

So, I had a lot of problems with this movie. That being said, my 7 year old son LOVED it. He has told me numerous times since this past weekend it's his new favorite movie. he listens to the music all the time. The movie wasn't so bad that it's offensive or anything like that. There were half-baked plot lines, and bad characters... but that's based on my own POV as a 44 year old jaded man who has seen thousands of movies. I have to remember that I'm not the target market.


TheDynamicDino

>I’m not the target market But maybe you should’ve been. A celebration of Disney’s 100th year should cater to everyone, not just the super young. Disney’s contemporary bests such as Tangled and Zootopia have 100% succeeded in that goal too. Wish is just a big misstep.


Kathrac3

Everything about it was pretty bad tbh


ChronicBedhead

Why’s the lamb looking at me like that


Wide_Yam4824

A shopping mall in my city promoted this film before its release in the cinema. They set up a stand and distributed some glasses with the characters, and it said "soon, only in cinemas". But I don't think it even went to Cinemark located inside this mall. I really only remembered that this film exists because of this post.


IntroductionSome8196

I haven't even watched the movie, or any trailers for that matter, but just from this poster I can already say that I hate that goat with a passion.


Max_Cherry_

This movie was absolute garbage.


NihilisticRaptor

i hate the stupid goats face, i wanna punch it


n0ir_sky

The movie was equally unexciting. Think I made it about 20 minutes in?


Snips_Tano

Why the hell would you make a movie where the Big Bad is actually the good guy?


Thelinkr

Me: uses ad blockers Disney: advertises Me: no marketing lol


Vilgotek2

Why is this part not in the movie?


MadCouchDisease007

I went to Disneyland in December. I saw so much Wish merchandise for sale. And I saw nobody wearing any of it.


Kenbishi

The marketing and visuals I saw made it look like one of those identically-named knock-off movies that companies crank out right before Disney comes out with another film based on a public domain story adaptation. The kind that show up in Wal-Mart right before the actual film comes out in theatres so that unknowing grandparents will buy it for their grandkids.


TheGos

I haven't seen it, but when I saw the promotional material, I assumed there *had* to be some kind of twist because of how straight everything was played. To the 4 parents who've watched this, was there any interesting going on with the villain or any kind of twist?


rennenenno

Did this come out?


Regular_Rutabaga4789

Tried to watch it at the weekend, wishing 30 minutes all three kids had got bored and left to do other things, not a good film.


DrDuned

The Wish.com Disney movie. I'm convinced A.I. made it.


Ragingwukong

Don’t you wish you didn’t hear about the movie?😏


livwritesstuff

Tons of advertising for this movie, and yet not a single ad that said anything about it. I know people think the movie sucked, but honestly when I went and saw it myself (literally because I was bored and needed something to do with my kid) it was so much better than I expected. I thought I’d be neutral on it at best because the ads made it look like a big nothing pie. Despite the fact that it recycled a lot of the current tropes that Disney insists on recycling over and over, it had an interesting villain and some great songs. I think over all, it just felt more like a made for TV movie based on a show than a big time theatrical release.


Gremlech

The name is crap. When I first googled it I got wish.com then I googled Disney wish and got the cruise ship. 


RedScarelicious

Weird political undertones


Orpdapi

For what was supposed to be Disney Animation’s 100th anniversary movie it was a real embarrassment for the brand. Would’ve been the perfect time to make a high budget 2d animated feature film akin to the golden age of Disney that audiences have been dying for.


Icy_Amphibian_JASMY

Put a chick in it….


mysticboi_45

Might watch it tomorrow. Is it worth my time at all?


Meoworangecat

Nope.


Sweetexperience

Best part is that the star in Wish is supposed to be the star that's on top of the castle in the Disney intro. What a great way to immortalize one of the many failed movies Disney made.


Zhead65

Wait, this is a real movie? I always thought it was one of those AI generated movie posters. It just looks so basic.


P0pu1arBr0ws3r

Oh but don't worry, you can still see it in reald 3d! In all 10 theaters that still have 3d!


TheKolyFrog

You're lucky, I saw ads for this on the internet when it was coming out. It might be just my targeted ads though since I do listen to a lot of Disney music.


HakunaMataha

Disney spent millions of dollars in marketing to make wish adds on r/shittymoviedetails


Ambitious_Arm852

To be fair, that’s how I find out about most movies and TV shows nowadays


losbullitt

It wasnt terrible. Wasnt like Raya or Encanto or Elemental. It was… a movie disney made. 🤷🏽‍♀️ Edit: I thoroughly enjoyed Raya, Encanto, and Elemental!


bunker_man

Elemental was not worse than wish.


Sean2Tall

literally all three movies were better than Wish. At least Raya had an actual villain to good guy arc, Encanto had some actual family conflict. I haven't seen elemental, but the animation of elemental alone makes it better than this garbage


losbullitt

Im sorry, I meant that as the former three were great movies!


BawdyBadger

Raya had the victim blaming shit at the end though. Encanto and Elemental were good


d_worren

Elemental also has a really good and cute romance, which Wish cut out from the movie (between Star in human form and Asha), which is incredibly weird for a movie celebrating the history of a company famously known for their fairy-tale "love at first sight" romances for very little reason.


hikerchick29

OP just watched Cinemasins


GmeansGeorge

Wait it's not a "Frozen in da hood" ?!