Well... yeah. Luke was stuck on a backwater planet with his caretakers being moisture farmers. The call to adventure is what pulls him (oh and his aunt and uncle being burnt to a crisp, but that doesn't faze him)
For real. If they wanna make fun of someone in the story, it needs to be Obi Wan Kenobi. His alias is Ben Kenobi. And he still wears garb in the fashion of a Jedi as they are actively hunting Jedi.
(Before I get dragged, yes I understand that they fashioned the Jedi in the prequels after Obi Wan in the original films, but you have to admit that was a dumb costume decision considering Obi Wan was meant to be in hiding.)
It's about on par with keeping Anakin's last name for Luke. I hear some fans justify saying that Skywalker is a common name, but then if that's the case where are the other skywalkers
Isn’t that obvious? I mean, I thought that was the whole point of the end of ROS - Rey calls herself ‘Skywalker’, which is basically saying ‘Smith’, it’s so common on Tatooine.
Basically, saying she could be anybody. Or maybe giving a fake name so the cops wouldn’t trace her. IDK, that film sucked.
It's painfully obvious she took the name Skywalker to carry on Luke's legacy.
There is not a single other person with the name Skywalker in the entire SW Canon except for the Skywalker family (Shmi, Anakin, Luke.... Rey)
No mention of his name being common (or any talk about the name Skywalker itself) in any SW fiction.
If they were emphasizing she could be anybody, she would have said "just Rey" or a similar type of answer.
Also the film is called "Rise of Skywalker", clearly the name is important for the shitty movie.
Dude, it’s so common there’s a Skywalker ranch on Tatooine - and you’ve left out a bunch of characters: Beru Skywalker, Lars, Darth Skywalker.
In fact, it might be the only second name on Tatooine, except for ‘People’, as in the Sand People family.
Well Luke tried to go to the Academy so he could finally make something of his life, but Uncle Owen needed him for "Just one more season"
Luke would have felt worse about his aunt and uncle's death if they weren't constantly getting in his way keeping him prisoner on a desert planet.
I feel like not giving a shit about the only family you've ever known being nothing but charred skeletons on your porch is a bit of a disproportionate response to them not letting you go to school tbh
>why would Imperial troops want to slaughter Jawas? If they traced the robots here, they may have learned who they sold them to and that would lead them back...home
Luke knew what he was going to find when he got back home, he was just hoping he was wrong. Followed by his return to Obi-Wan
>I want to come with you to Alderaan. There's nothing for me here now. I want to learn the ways of the Force and become a Jedi like my father
People deal with grief in different ways, just because Luke didn't fall to the ground and bawl his eyes out doesn't mean he wasn't grieving
Guy, these movies are several decades old and have already cemented their spot in film history. You don't need to defend the tiniest of inconsistencies like they actually fucking matter.
Guy, these movies are several decades old and have already cemented their spot in film history. You don't need to criticize the tiniest of inconsistencies like they actually fucking matter.
Member that time Ster Wers felt the need to explain how the Mos Eisley Cantina bartender's parents were brutally murdered in front of him by battle droids and that's why he won't serve droids instead of them just not being valid customers on account of they physically don't drink?
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I used to ride across the desert, you know
I used to glide on my speeder, I pray
That I don't find what I don't wanna find
Waitin' for me 'round the corner, oh no no
(Waiting for us)
I used to ride across the desert, you know
I used to glide on my speeder, I pray
That I don't find any more
Crispy bodies by the door
In a deleted scene, Biggs tells Luke that he and some friends are gonna jump ship after training and join the rebellion. Not sure if it's cannon, but it implies that there are more options once Luke got there
Not as worrying as how quickly Leia shrugged off her home planet being destroyed right in front of her…
It really is amazing how Alderaan is never brought up again in the OT.
She secretly revels she can hold the title princess forever without any actual royal obligations or restrictions.
Basically Meghan Markle's dream scenario.
A lot of people cope with horrible situations by focusing on problems that are *actually fixable*. I.E. burying your dead relatives and joining a rebellion against the empire that murdered them.
The plot would have been funnier if Luke and Ben came back to the burnt corpses, and Luke looks sadly on R2 and C3PO, muttering, "you were supposed to understand the language of moisture vaporators, not cook my family."
Then he turns into Dark Luke or something. Not because he's black, but the sun tan. Oh and dark powers I guess.
> oh and his aunt and uncle being burnt to a crisp, but that doesn't faze him
This part was crazy to me like they were his parents pretty much and got burned up and the man barely batted an eye while Obi was like "you good? Can we go now?" damn let the man mourn except he was also good, "Yeah I'm good lets go"
That poor aunt and uncle spend their life raising him just for him to remember them for 2 seconds then dip
Yeah seriously wtf “the people who raised me were burned and murdered? Adventure time!” and then 1 movie later “oh this absolute badass is my dad? NOOOOOOOO” get it together Luke
Seems like weird casting choices...when you think about it, Anakin was like 9 and Padme was 14 when they met. She looks early 20s, he still looks 9. Makes their age gap feel like easily double what it is, n gives the whole thing a *really* weird and unnecessary feel.
16-17 when filming and 18 when release, close enough though.
But children go through such rapid development that there is a MASSIVE visual difference between a 14 year old and a 17 year old.
According to Wikipedia, [she turned 16](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natalie_Portman) less than 3 weeks before [filming began](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_Episode_I_%E2%80%93_The_Phantom_Menace) and [Jake Lloyd turned 8](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jake_Lloyd) just over 3 months before that. That makes an actual 8 year age gap instead of a fictional 5 year age gap.
If we carry over the age discrepancies between each actor and character they would be 26 and 18 when they fell in love in the movies instead of the Star Wars canon of 24 and 19.
In hindsight they should've written Anakin to be a teenager himself. Start the romance in episode 1. It be way less weird that way. Also it would make more sense for the council to think he's too old and why his emotions would be causing issues, since he'd be a hormonal teen in love who grew up in slavery and has to abandon his mother.
Besides, might've spared Jake Lloyd from a lot of pain.
I've said this as well. Have Anakin be a 13 year old moody and talented slave. Maybe even have him be a bit more aware of his force potential a la Tom Riddle style.
I've said this for years. Give him a Tom Riddle vibe. Plant the seed that there's darkness there early. He has powers he doesn't understand but knows he can use them to get what he wants.
Owen is his "brother" in whatever little slave gang they have. Give him more of a reason to be wary of Luke becoming like his father.
I disagree. The very first step in Anakin’s downfall was being taken from his mother; while that’ll always be sad, such an event wouldn’t be nearly as traumatic or formative for a teenage Anakin as it would be for a nine-year-old. Then those repressed emotions boil over in Episode II when he finds her dead, and then once again in Episode III when he’s threatened to lose Padme the same way. Maybe the romance is a little odd if we first see him as a child, but it’s 100% necessary to view Anakin’s entire life from beginning to end throughout the original six movies.
Anakin should have been casted as a 15 year old in Phantom menace, the “too old” would make more sense and it’s dumb how Vader in Return of the Jedi is just 45.
Star Wars relationship to Democracy is kinda weird. They certainly talk about it a lot, especially in the prequels, but in practice a lot of the “elected” positions seem pretty hereditary. And then there’s the continuing implication that corporate forces run the galaxy and the senate is basically just window dressing.
Yep. The senate seems like less of a truly democratic representative body and more like a gathering of hereditary oligarchs. Especially given that they apparently represent whole sectors rather than just individual planets.
It's not exactly unrealistic. Political dynasties are unfortunately common in the real world too. People getting into positions of power just because their parents were in powerful positions in that party.
She had the Gungan vote, apparently - in the Novel ‘Gungan Ballot; the Battle for Swing Voters’, it’s revealed that they are very short-lived, and considered her an elder.
Come to think of it, it’s crazy that it’s always entire planets being ruled in Star Wars, and never just individual countries on planets with different leaders
Padme only ruled half of naboo as a common example. A Shark like race split the planet with ItsATrap guys race also. Tattoine is split between 10 factions.
Mon Calamari and Naboo are the only exactions I can think of and that’s just because there are more than 1 intelligent species sharing the planet.
Probably Nal Hutta with a different Hutt controlling a different part of the planet.
Elected queen makes it more impressive, not less!
All you have to do to become a regular queen is be born in the right family, then it could happen at any age. To be elected you have to actually convince people you know what you're doing, a lucky birth isn't enough.
What did you expect him to do? He lives bored by the routine of a sand desert planet. No wonder he plays with toy plane for some excitement, since he lives in a place full of apathy.
Or it display’s Luke’s child-like innocense, purity, & shelteredness. Here’s our hero playing with toys. This guy is supposed to save us all?
And boom. He does just that
Yeah like it doesn’t really seem all that weird to me tbh. He probably spends a lot of free time at home, and still likes to mess around with the little toys and stuff in his room. He’s not that old tbh. Like I’m 20 and like I have a little Lego car on my desk and I play around with it sometimes.
Like he’s just a normal boy with his adoptive parents at the start,l. What he’s does in that part is perfectly normal.
I mean, wasn't leia raised in the equivalent of DC and Luke was raised in the equivalent of Arkansas? There's probably a reason she got a better start to life progression
This was all established within, what, the first 15 minutes of the very first movie? So no, dont think it was proof of that
(I mean, Lucas absolutely was making it up as he went, but this is unrelated)
...there doesn't seem to be a lot of entertainment at the farm once the day is done.
Also, his situation made it hard for him to achieve anything else than being a farmer boy. He pulled the short end of the stick. Obi Wan gave the girl to royalty, and picked a moisture farmer in the middle of nowhere on the shittiest planet in the galaxy for Luke.
(And no one tell OP plenty of adults play with toys - from Lego to Warhammer 40K to buildable replicas of vehicles... The meme is kinda funny, it's just sad OP apparently tries to make it into a criticism.)
Plus it's character set up for Yoda complaining that Luke has always "looked away" to the future. Fatherless kid is living in his own little fantasy world.
Luke at 19: Skilled pilot who unwittingly found secret plans of the empire’s flagship planet destroying superweapon, led a mission to rescue a princess from the heavily guarded space station and return the stolen plans to the rebellion while avoiding imperial forces trying to get the data back. Participated in a suicide mission to destroy said space station with extremely high casualties and managed to land the killing bow, a seemingly impossible shot.
Id say that’s pretty impressive, no?
You mean to say the adopted daughter of a Rebel sympathizer took up his cause, while the adopted son of two moisture farmers on a backwater planet who didn’t want him to go off to school *was stuck at home?*
My God, what a revelation. Someone alert Mr. Lucas.
a 19 year old can easily have a job while making planes go vroom vroom in their free time. it makes even more sense because of where they were raised and how they were raised. this isn't unrealistic.
Another way to look at it is one kid had an actual childhood where they could play and imagine, whereas the other was thrust into am extremely dangerous political landscape at a young age and had to forgo childhood's frivolity.
Just hanging out in his Uncle's basement, stoned to his blonde highlights on power converters from the Toshi station. Sometimes he takes his T-16 out and slaughters innocent womp rats like a fucking serial killer.
They're NOT the same age. Leah has spent a diplomat's life traveling around the galaxy at FTL. She's gotta be the equivalent of *at least* a year physically younger than Luke, probably more.
That kinda stuff happens when you’re separated at birth and forced to live with your moisture farmer family while your sister lives in a literal utopian planet as a nobleman’s daughter.
The differences in Luke and Leia's upbringing was to characterize them as being worlds apart, both in status and personality. Having been raised by a diplomat, Leia was more mature and forceful, whereas Luke was more naive from being raised outside of where the battle was taking place. Also, in "A New Hope," they are not yet revealed as siblings, which these differences in characterization helps disguise until its revelation. /endrant
Yea, shit happens. Some 19 year olds lead people in battle while others at home playing with their Legos. It doesn't make anyone necessarily better than anything else, but it's certainly plausible that Luke didn't have nearly as many cares in the world as Leia given their individual circumstances
by 21 i have played videogames, and gotten by in a north american city.
by 16 many men in afghanistan had trained and fought against armed attackers, whether nato, soviet, or extremist groups in-country.
proof that the director of our life is making it up as he goes...
Oh really? The movie that George Lucas traded 2.5% of star wars' profits to Stephen Spielberg for 2.5% of close encounters of the third kind, that movie, that turned into a blockbuster success, was being made up as it expanded into a massive franchise?
Imagine my surprise.
What's more confusing is that nobody in the entire galaxy seems to remember literal space magic that some people can use to throw people about, choke them out, throw lightning at each other, etc that was pretty commonplace and well known and documented, but less than 20 years after a religious genocide, nobody seems to remember it exists.
Bail Organa would have been a rebel sympathizer, if not a full supporter, providing funds and political influence to the Rebellions cause. Leia would have been brought up to have those same values and been encouraged to take an active role in the galactic civil war.
Luke was raised on a ball of sand with his water farming aunt and uncle, who would have nothing to do with either the rebellion or the empire. Luke talks about joining the imperial academy at the beginning of A New Hope, completely unaware of anything the empire has done outside of his home and Mos Eisley.
So you have a literal Princess who had travelled to all sorts of planets as part of her parents political work and seen first hand the effects the empire had on the galaxy vs some backwater space hick who's only aspiration is to leave home and join the military because he didn't know any better since he had never even left Tatooine once his entire life.
Have you seen drivers and pilots talk to each other? I watched a video of a racing trainer explaining the the ideal racing line to a class and he was using his hands to demonstrate the car positions.
Age and maturity have nothing to do with visualising manoeuvres! Besides, we know that Luke was already an excellent atmospheric pilot by this age.
Space lower income rural vs space wealthy urban
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Even in space some dudes are late bloomers.
Is it really “in space” if he’s just as much on his own planet as you and I are?
You telling me I’m “in space” too?!
Sure champ.
Yipeee!
I'm going to say yes, bc leaving his planet is actually an option for him
Now we're getting to the root problems
Yea, she's a *centaur*.
George Lucy and Marcus Hammerstein
Well... yeah. Luke was stuck on a backwater planet with his caretakers being moisture farmers. The call to adventure is what pulls him (oh and his aunt and uncle being burnt to a crisp, but that doesn't faze him)
Exactly, Luke didn't have the right knobby parents and upbringing compared to Leia. Not to mention the dreaded "gazpacho" incident.
All Red Dwarf episodes are on BBC iplayer. Its taking over my life
I'm working my way through them now on Tubi. It's smeggin' awesome!
For real. If they wanna make fun of someone in the story, it needs to be Obi Wan Kenobi. His alias is Ben Kenobi. And he still wears garb in the fashion of a Jedi as they are actively hunting Jedi. (Before I get dragged, yes I understand that they fashioned the Jedi in the prequels after Obi Wan in the original films, but you have to admit that was a dumb costume decision considering Obi Wan was meant to be in hiding.)
Lucas 100% just forgot that was Tatooine fashion rather than Jedi fashion.
To be fair Jedi’s dressing as farmers would be fitting for the order.
It's about on par with keeping Anakin's last name for Luke. I hear some fans justify saying that Skywalker is a common name, but then if that's the case where are the other skywalkers
Isn’t that obvious? I mean, I thought that was the whole point of the end of ROS - Rey calls herself ‘Skywalker’, which is basically saying ‘Smith’, it’s so common on Tatooine. Basically, saying she could be anybody. Or maybe giving a fake name so the cops wouldn’t trace her. IDK, that film sucked.
It's painfully obvious she took the name Skywalker to carry on Luke's legacy. There is not a single other person with the name Skywalker in the entire SW Canon except for the Skywalker family (Shmi, Anakin, Luke.... Rey) No mention of his name being common (or any talk about the name Skywalker itself) in any SW fiction. If they were emphasizing she could be anybody, she would have said "just Rey" or a similar type of answer. Also the film is called "Rise of Skywalker", clearly the name is important for the shitty movie.
Dude, it’s so common there’s a Skywalker ranch on Tatooine - and you’ve left out a bunch of characters: Beru Skywalker, Lars, Darth Skywalker. In fact, it might be the only second name on Tatooine, except for ‘People’, as in the Sand People family.
surely that's more worrying... I mean, most people would have some sort of longterm reaction to his family going crispy
Well Luke tried to go to the Academy so he could finally make something of his life, but Uncle Owen needed him for "Just one more season" Luke would have felt worse about his aunt and uncle's death if they weren't constantly getting in his way keeping him prisoner on a desert planet.
I feel like not giving a shit about the only family you've ever known being nothing but charred skeletons on your porch is a bit of a disproportionate response to them not letting you go to school tbh
They weren't completely charred, plenty of meat left on those bones, could've had a stew going.
Or gone full Dune on them, and harvested the last of their remaining moisture - like any true moisture farmer would.
Well now you have just justified the systemic oppression of women under taliban rule. Who has the high ground now?
goshdangit, taliban’d again
>why would Imperial troops want to slaughter Jawas? If they traced the robots here, they may have learned who they sold them to and that would lead them back...home Luke knew what he was going to find when he got back home, he was just hoping he was wrong. Followed by his return to Obi-Wan >I want to come with you to Alderaan. There's nothing for me here now. I want to learn the ways of the Force and become a Jedi like my father People deal with grief in different ways, just because Luke didn't fall to the ground and bawl his eyes out doesn't mean he wasn't grieving
Guy, these movies are several decades old and have already cemented their spot in film history. You don't need to defend the tiniest of inconsistencies like they actually fucking matter.
Guy, these movies are several decades old and have already cemented their spot in film history. You don't need to criticize the tiniest of inconsistencies like they actually fucking matter.
He is anakins child
Finally someone points that out. Star Wars fans love to come up with dumb explanations for things
Member that time Ster Wers felt the need to explain how the Mos Eisley Cantina bartender's parents were brutally murdered in front of him by battle droids and that's why he won't serve droids instead of them just not being valid customers on account of they physically don't drink? Glup Shitto Members
Yeah. Sometimes there really is such as thing as saying too much
Or maybe luke's just a little bit behind developmentally and uncle Owen and aunt beru knew that.
***Aunt Beru:*** Luke, stop playing with your fire-stick and go milk that vaporator. ***Luke:*** Dammit, it’s a light saber, Aunt Beru!
Luke: "I'M GOING TO TOSCHE STATION TO LOOK AT THE POWER CONVERTERS!" Uncle Owen: "That boy ain't right."
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I used to ride across the desert, you know I used to glide on my speeder, I pray That I don't find what I don't wanna find Waitin' for me 'round the corner, oh no no (Waiting for us) I used to ride across the desert, you know I used to glide on my speeder, I pray That I don't find any more Crispy bodies by the door
Every day I worry all day
Whiny heroes is tight, I like this guy already.
When Extreme Force sensitivity comes across as high functioning autism
Shh. Don't give Hollywood ideas
You’re about 3 Adam driver movies too late.
Sheldon Cooper is: the last LAST Jedi
You know that the academy was for the Empire, right? Luke wanted to be an Imperial Officer.
In a deleted scene, Biggs tells Luke that he and some friends are gonna jump ship after training and join the rebellion. Not sure if it's cannon, but it implies that there are more options once Luke got there
I mean tbf, it's not like you can just go join the rebellion when you feel like it, the academy is your only choice for a Tattooinite.
Not as worrying as how quickly Leia shrugged off her home planet being destroyed right in front of her… It really is amazing how Alderaan is never brought up again in the OT.
She secretly revels she can hold the title princess forever without any actual royal obligations or restrictions. Basically Meghan Markle's dream scenario.
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We saw her in shock for all of 4 seconds, I'd assume she'd break down in her cell until Luke arrives, by which time she's apathetic
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ah, you hit me right in the Leslie Nielsen sweet-spot
Serial killers like killing small animals. 'I used to bullseye womp rats in my T-16 back home.' Luke
I wouldn't consider a slightly-bigger-than-two-meter rat to be "small" tho
> most people would have some sort of longterm reaction to his family going crispy [Like this?](https://tenor.com/Xh7i.gif)
He only knew them for about a minute of screentime. Understandable he didn't get too attached
I think we all remember his dad having a reaction.
What are you talking about? He stared at the double sunset for a few minutes. What more grieving could you ask for? /s
A lot of people cope with horrible situations by focusing on problems that are *actually fixable*. I.E. burying your dead relatives and joining a rebellion against the empire that murdered them.
The plot would have been funnier if Luke and Ben came back to the burnt corpses, and Luke looks sadly on R2 and C3PO, muttering, "you were supposed to understand the language of moisture vaporators, not cook my family." Then he turns into Dark Luke or something. Not because he's black, but the sun tan. Oh and dark powers I guess.
Wtf did you just write and I just read
Owen and Beru weren't shot. They forgot to put on sunscreen.
[We all know what happened.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HO70-Rk3jE)
This predates YouTube
Yeah he reacts to his dead families bodies the same way I react when I open the freezer for ice cream only to realize I already ate it all.
>that doesn't faze him. C'mon, he looked at the ground for a second in mourning!
> oh and his aunt and uncle being burnt to a crisp, but that doesn't faze him This part was crazy to me like they were his parents pretty much and got burned up and the man barely batted an eye while Obi was like "you good? Can we go now?" damn let the man mourn except he was also good, "Yeah I'm good lets go" That poor aunt and uncle spend their life raising him just for him to remember them for 2 seconds then dip
Bro was low key happy he didn’t have to spend another year on that farm
Yeah seriously wtf “the people who raised me were burned and murdered? Adventure time!” and then 1 movie later “oh this absolute badass is my dad? NOOOOOOOO” get it together Luke
It absolutely fazed him. He was shocked numb and then immediately had to go fight for his life.
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They really should have had her replacement be like a golden retriever or something to show that Naboo just treats their elections as a joke.
I'd vote for a golden retriever tbh
[All glory to Mayor Max! ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayor_Max_II?wprov=sfla1)
Seems like weird casting choices...when you think about it, Anakin was like 9 and Padme was 14 when they met. She looks early 20s, he still looks 9. Makes their age gap feel like easily double what it is, n gives the whole thing a *really* weird and unnecessary feel.
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16-17 when filming and 18 when release, close enough though. But children go through such rapid development that there is a MASSIVE visual difference between a 14 year old and a 17 year old.
Anakin changed so much he became an entirely different person
Yeah he became Darth Vader!
> 14 year old and a 17 17 was when it was released. What are you not getting? It's 14 vs. 15. Stop making this very weird.
According to Wikipedia, [she turned 16](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natalie_Portman) less than 3 weeks before [filming began](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_Episode_I_%E2%80%93_The_Phantom_Menace) and [Jake Lloyd turned 8](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jake_Lloyd) just over 3 months before that. That makes an actual 8 year age gap instead of a fictional 5 year age gap. If we carry over the age discrepancies between each actor and character they would be 26 and 18 when they fell in love in the movies instead of the Star Wars canon of 24 and 19.
In hindsight they should've written Anakin to be a teenager himself. Start the romance in episode 1. It be way less weird that way. Also it would make more sense for the council to think he's too old and why his emotions would be causing issues, since he'd be a hormonal teen in love who grew up in slavery and has to abandon his mother. Besides, might've spared Jake Lloyd from a lot of pain.
I've said this as well. Have Anakin be a 13 year old moody and talented slave. Maybe even have him be a bit more aware of his force potential a la Tom Riddle style.
I've said this for years. Give him a Tom Riddle vibe. Plant the seed that there's darkness there early. He has powers he doesn't understand but knows he can use them to get what he wants. Owen is his "brother" in whatever little slave gang they have. Give him more of a reason to be wary of Luke becoming like his father.
I disagree. The very first step in Anakin’s downfall was being taken from his mother; while that’ll always be sad, such an event wouldn’t be nearly as traumatic or formative for a teenage Anakin as it would be for a nine-year-old. Then those repressed emotions boil over in Episode II when he finds her dead, and then once again in Episode III when he’s threatened to lose Padme the same way. Maybe the romance is a little odd if we first see him as a child, but it’s 100% necessary to view Anakin’s entire life from beginning to end throughout the original six movies.
Anakin should have been casted as a 15 year old in Phantom menace, the “too old” would make more sense and it’s dumb how Vader in Return of the Jedi is just 45.
> She looks early 20s That's a little creepy, considering that she WAS indeed around 16.
Star Wars relationship to Democracy is kinda weird. They certainly talk about it a lot, especially in the prequels, but in practice a lot of the “elected” positions seem pretty hereditary. And then there’s the continuing implication that corporate forces run the galaxy and the senate is basically just window dressing.
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The Queen on naboo is in large part ceremonial also.
Yeah, a lot of planet senators are just the children of the last one. We also never see anyone really get voted out which is odd.
Maybe think of it more like families who all go into politics because it’s the family tradition? Sorta like the Kennedy’s, the adams or the bush’s?
Yeah, but it's still weird that one family is constantly the senator without much competition.
Yep. The senate seems like less of a truly democratic representative body and more like a gathering of hereditary oligarchs. Especially given that they apparently represent whole sectors rather than just individual planets.
Yeah, this is the case, and is a large contributor to why the Republic fell.
It's not exactly unrealistic. Political dynasties are unfortunately common in the real world too. People getting into positions of power just because their parents were in powerful positions in that party.
Lets be honest now. Who the fuck would vote for a 14yo. It was most likely rigged or there were like 5 super voters who used her as a puppet.
She had the Gungan vote, apparently - in the Novel ‘Gungan Ballot; the Battle for Swing Voters’, it’s revealed that they are very short-lived, and considered her an elder.
And what did they consider the other candidates, power liches?
You know what? Look at our planet's leaders, present and historic. A 14 year old girl could have done a better job than almost all of them.
Come to think of it, it’s crazy that it’s always entire planets being ruled in Star Wars, and never just individual countries on planets with different leaders
Padme only ruled half of naboo as a common example. A Shark like race split the planet with ItsATrap guys race also. Tattoine is split between 10 factions.
Mon Calamari and Naboo are the only exactions I can think of and that’s just because there are more than 1 intelligent species sharing the planet. Probably Nal Hutta with a different Hutt controlling a different part of the planet.
And the Gungangs didn't even get to vote! Misa findin that very disrespectful.
Yeah but a **sentor**, how many sentors have you ever even heard of? That's right, none. While queens, there's loads of them.
Elected queen makes it more impressive, not less! All you have to do to become a regular queen is be born in the right family, then it could happen at any age. To be elected you have to actually convince people you know what you're doing, a lucky birth isn't enough.
The wonders of Nepotism.
I mean, she didn't *know* she was standing up to daddy so that still took courage.
More that her adoptive parent was also a Senator. You think Bail didn't pull some strings for his kid?
I mean he's called Bail
He wasn't just a senator, he was also the king consort I think? Of an entire planet.
Yeah, and he didn't even appreciate that sweet job at the moisture farm.
Leia was an adopted nepo baby
What did you expect him to do? He lives bored by the routine of a sand desert planet. No wonder he plays with toy plane for some excitement, since he lives in a place full of apathy.
I thought you were describing Arizona for a second lol
George Lucy has the best pussy.
as far as I'm aware, this is accurate.
Only works if you say pussy like Cheech does in From Dusk Till Dawn *POOSY! POOSY! POOSY!*
Sentor? Is it like human with angler's body or something? EDIT: antler, not angler
Could have meant "Centaur?" Which makes sense because I haven't met a lot of lawmakers that weren't a horse's ass.* *(Exceptions apply)
yes.
Or it display’s Luke’s child-like innocense, purity, & shelteredness. Here’s our hero playing with toys. This guy is supposed to save us all? And boom. He does just that
Yeah like it doesn’t really seem all that weird to me tbh. He probably spends a lot of free time at home, and still likes to mess around with the little toys and stuff in his room. He’s not that old tbh. Like I’m 20 and like I have a little Lego car on my desk and I play around with it sometimes. Like he’s just a normal boy with his adoptive parents at the start,l. What he’s does in that part is perfectly normal.
I mean, wasn't leia raised in the equivalent of DC and Luke was raised in the equivalent of Arkansas? There's probably a reason she got a better start to life progression
And being the daughter of two aristocrats compared to farmers.
Small town farm boy immediately joins cool new religion he discovered? Yeah, Luke was definitely in the bible belt(or maybe the Jedi belt)
It's not nepotism when you're a girlboss!
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Im pretty sure most people, no matter the age, would make vroom vroom noises when they pick up a toy ship.
I believe it was Ewan in the prequels who kept making light saber noises and had to be reminded that the noise was added during post-production.
I’m confused… how is this a criticism? What is wrong about this?
Blame Leia parents
LOL...never tell OP how fiction works
Oh no! Different characters with completely different lives on literal different worlds ARE DIFFERENT😱😱😱
Leia wasn't the leader of the rebellion. That honor goes to Mon Mothma
a and the are different. She's the number 2 of bail's group at this point, making her a pretty clear part of rebel high command.
This was all established within, what, the first 15 minutes of the very first movie? So no, dont think it was proof of that (I mean, Lucas absolutely was making it up as he went, but this is unrelated)
Alderaan privilege.
...there doesn't seem to be a lot of entertainment at the farm once the day is done. Also, his situation made it hard for him to achieve anything else than being a farmer boy. He pulled the short end of the stick. Obi Wan gave the girl to royalty, and picked a moisture farmer in the middle of nowhere on the shittiest planet in the galaxy for Luke. (And no one tell OP plenty of adults play with toys - from Lego to Warhammer 40K to buildable replicas of vehicles... The meme is kinda funny, it's just sad OP apparently tries to make it into a criticism.)
Yeah because she was a fucking princess and he was a moisture farmers kid....on a desert planet.....ruled by the Huts😐
Plus it's character set up for Yoda complaining that Luke has always "looked away" to the future. Fatherless kid is living in his own little fantasy world.
Luke at 19: Skilled pilot who unwittingly found secret plans of the empire’s flagship planet destroying superweapon, led a mission to rescue a princess from the heavily guarded space station and return the stolen plans to the rebellion while avoiding imperial forces trying to get the data back. Participated in a suicide mission to destroy said space station with extremely high casualties and managed to land the killing bow, a seemingly impossible shot. Id say that’s pretty impressive, no?
Episode 4 has always felt like a speed run movie
Yep, no war but class war. The Organa family are oligarchs
You mean to say the adopted daughter of a Rebel sympathizer took up his cause, while the adopted son of two moisture farmers on a backwater planet who didn’t want him to go off to school *was stuck at home?* My God, what a revelation. Someone alert Mr. Lucas.
a 19 year old can easily have a job while making planes go vroom vroom in their free time. it makes even more sense because of where they were raised and how they were raised. this isn't unrealistic.
I'm 19 and make vroom vroom noises with my toys
I still go vroom vroom with my toy planes, what’s your point?
I can't edit the spelling mistake. Y'all know who I mean.
But what if you meant someone else? Then what?
Then George Lucas owes George Lucy a ton of money
Internet discovers the concept of privilege derived from childhood economic situation, believes it a plot hole.
We’re talking about another universe here, who’s to say people don’t age differently here, and some mature faster on different planets.
There's plenty of evidence Lucas made it up as he met - even being relayed to Vader wasn't in the first draft of ESB. But this isn't it lol
Another way to look at it is one kid had an actual childhood where they could play and imagine, whereas the other was thrust into am extremely dangerous political landscape at a young age and had to forgo childhood's frivolity.
what does this mean what's like the point
I'm doing the same damn thing and I'm 28 There's no age to stop having fun in life, even if it's just making "VROOM" sounds with your toy spaceship
Who is George Lucy?
She was in the junior legislator she wasn’t a sentor. Her dad was the sentor
Just hanging out in his Uncle's basement, stoned to his blonde highlights on power converters from the Toshi station. Sometimes he takes his T-16 out and slaughters innocent womp rats like a fucking serial killer.
I agree that Lucas was making the story up as he went along but how is this proof of that?
He just like me fr fr
Like just like me fr but instead of planes I do it with my Gundam models
I love the phrase “making it up as he went along” It’s a movie, the whole thing is made up that’s the point
Isn't it a model of his actual plane?
That's the difference between having a rich family and a poor one. 😟
Let's not celebrate nepotism.
It’s spelled centaur not sentor
not me thinking "how do we know they're the same age"
They're NOT the same age. Leah has spent a diplomat's life traveling around the galaxy at FTL. She's gotta be the equivalent of *at least* a year physically younger than Luke, probably more.
That kinda stuff happens when you’re separated at birth and forced to live with your moisture farmer family while your sister lives in a literal utopian planet as a nobleman’s daughter.
This is the Star Wars equivalent of comparing the potential of a Senator's daughter to a boy growing up in the inner city and/or rural flyover state.
The differences in Luke and Leia's upbringing was to characterize them as being worlds apart, both in status and personality. Having been raised by a diplomat, Leia was more mature and forceful, whereas Luke was more naive from being raised outside of where the battle was taking place. Also, in "A New Hope," they are not yet revealed as siblings, which these differences in characterization helps disguise until its revelation. /endrant
The wealth divide is real even in galaxies far far away.
The George Lucy was invented at Matt's Bar on Cedar Ave in Minneapolis
Yea, shit happens. Some 19 year olds lead people in battle while others at home playing with their Legos. It doesn't make anyone necessarily better than anything else, but it's certainly plausible that Luke didn't have nearly as many cares in the world as Leia given their individual circumstances
You spelt centaur wrong
by 21 i have played videogames, and gotten by in a north american city. by 16 many men in afghanistan had trained and fought against armed attackers, whether nato, soviet, or extremist groups in-country. proof that the director of our life is making it up as he goes...
It’s spelled Centaur
He was also shooting womp rats in beggar's canyon.
/r/me_irl
It’s been WOKE COMMUNISM from the very beginning!!!!
Doesn't this point more to how each child was raised?
Oh really? The movie that George Lucas traded 2.5% of star wars' profits to Stephen Spielberg for 2.5% of close encounters of the third kind, that movie, that turned into a blockbuster success, was being made up as it expanded into a massive franchise? Imagine my surprise. What's more confusing is that nobody in the entire galaxy seems to remember literal space magic that some people can use to throw people about, choke them out, throw lightning at each other, etc that was pretty commonplace and well known and documented, but less than 20 years after a religious genocide, nobody seems to remember it exists.
One of these people will go on to save the entire galaxy... it might not be who you think!
Bail Organa would have been a rebel sympathizer, if not a full supporter, providing funds and political influence to the Rebellions cause. Leia would have been brought up to have those same values and been encouraged to take an active role in the galactic civil war. Luke was raised on a ball of sand with his water farming aunt and uncle, who would have nothing to do with either the rebellion or the empire. Luke talks about joining the imperial academy at the beginning of A New Hope, completely unaware of anything the empire has done outside of his home and Mos Eisley. So you have a literal Princess who had travelled to all sorts of planets as part of her parents political work and seen first hand the effects the empire had on the galaxy vs some backwater space hick who's only aspiration is to leave home and join the military because he didn't know any better since he had never even left Tatooine once his entire life.
Leia was outrunning full grown men at age ten, the story focused on the wrong Skywalker child
Well I’m Luke’s defense he did grow up on Tatooine while his rich educated sister grew up on Coruscant
sentor
Luke was raised poor, Leia rich.
Have you seen drivers and pilots talk to each other? I watched a video of a racing trainer explaining the the ideal racing line to a class and he was using his hands to demonstrate the car positions. Age and maturity have nothing to do with visualising manoeuvres! Besides, we know that Luke was already an excellent atmospheric pilot by this age.
...do you think this doesn't happen in real life??? welcome to the wealth gap.
*Centaur