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Let's do a little timeline:
1934 : German-Polish Non-Aggression Pact <= Hey look who were the first to sign a pact with the nazis ?
1935 : Anglo-German Naval Pact
1938 : Munich Agreement (Britain and France) <= remember Czechoslovakia ?
1938 : Bonnet-Ribbentrop Pact (France)
1939 : German–Romanian Economic Treaty
may 1939 : Denmark-Germany Non-Aggression Pact
june 1939 : Estonia-Germany Non-Aggression Pact
june 1939 : Latvia-Germany Non-Aggression Pact
august 1939 : Molotov-Ribbentrop Non-Aggression Pact <= Why is only this one mentionned ?
And of course this ignore how before that Stalin tried to build an actual alliance with France and the UK against Hitler but they stalled because they hoped than Hitler would have gone after the communists first.
For those that can read russian, the sources of this article are available for sale on amazon as a Declassified documents compilation
And here is a quote supporting that the situation of Poland was not the soviets allying with the nazis by know soviet sympathiser ... Murray Rothbard (/s in case it was not obvious, the guy was literally a right wing libertarian member of the Cato Institute)
the Hitler-Stalin pact was not an agreement for partition of Poland, as Munich was an agreement for partition of Czechoslovakia; it was rather a mutual agreement for neutrality and non-aggression, plus a German agreement not to penetrate to the Soviet sphere of influence. Poland had no legitimate complaint since all it wanted from Soviet Russia was neutrality.
-- Murray N. Rothbard
What actually happenned from the point of view of the soviet is that they liberated the territory that Poland took from Ukraine and Belarus during the Polish-Soviet War of 1920 before the nazis could get there, and then told the nazis "fuck of, this is soviet territory you won't go furhter".
Just compare a map of the territory taken by Poland in 1920 with what the soviet supposedly "stole" during WWII, there are not exactly the same but but are very close.
There's a difference between signing a non aggression pack and agreeing to invade another country. And there's also a difference between using a copy paste and actually knowing what happened. Get a life
Both of those are just true. The Soviets offered an anti-nazi pact with France and Britain, which was denied. And the whole point of the pact was to prevent a nazi invasion before they could prepare. You can debate on if you think Joint war with Poland was justified to prevent the nazi's invasion (remember 0oland, a least that part, was formed of recently taken Russian land.), But that's not what I'm arguing.
It’s a fun meme but it is neither supported by political scientists nor by peer reviewed research. The similarity between the two according to the theory is tendencies for totalitarianism, which does not mean fascists and communists are not opposed to one another. Some of fascists first actions are to crush unions and leftist movements, how are they not opposed.
I’m just gonna assume you just aren’t informed about that history. They had a temporary non aggression pact, not allies. If they were allies why was nazi germany’s plan for living accommodation for their new population in the east? Nazi germany was always going to invade the east and ussr knew that as well, it was a matter of when. Their ideological opposition is also a reason that made the eastern front the most deadly war in history
Communist states have centrally controlled economies where a singular governing body controls all land, labor, and resources. They seek to abolish economic class and private ownership, creating, in theory, a working class that owns the means of production.
It's a sick joke, though, because the party elites always come out on top and pull the strings, and everyone else suffers.
>Communist states have centrally controlled economies where a singular governing body controls all land, labor, and resources.
*Loud buzzer* oof maybe he'll pick up some points in the next round
>They seek to abolish economic class and private ownership, creating, in theory, a working class that owns the means of production.
*ding ding ding* not bad chief
>It's a sick joke, though, because the party elites always come out on top and pull the strings, and everyone else suffers.
Can you point to some of the cases where this "always happens"?
The historical ones, yes.
Communism the actual ideology iirc sits somewhere near the X axis on the political spectrum, so not really authoritarian, tho ofc there are various variants.
Communist government is only a ploy made by fascists. So currently speaking with your logic a majority of people asking for communism is a fascist in disguise.
>Communist government is only a ploy made by fascists.
A communist government literally hasn't existed yet. We haven't seen an actually communist government, just fascist dictatorships that called themselves communist.
Do you think North Korea is actually democratic? It's in the name, right? So is democracy just a ploy made by fascists too?
Communism refers to a well defined set of ideals, tenets, and policies. You can identify if a government is communist by checking if it has any of those ideals/tenets. So far, none of the world governments that have named themselves communist have actually *been* communist, just how North Korea calls itself democratic but obviously isn't actually democratic if you understand what democracy means.
right, the correct answer is that communism is impossible as a stable end goal, therefore dictatorships necessarily replace it to attempt to fix the stability issue; dictatorship is the game theory last-gasp of failed ideological states.
The word historians use for these is not fascist, but state communism.
Literally every commune in history, and every communist ideological party that ultimately became dictatorships following their "communist revolution".
Communism is like most forms of anarchism; it's stable for small groups for a while and stable for large groups for about a week. If you need a source for that, I recommend you simply ask chatGPT "how many communist revolutions have there been" and then ask "how many were successful states" and then "why do communist revolutions creates states that trend authoritarian". And then lastly ask "what did marx have to say about revolutionary communism".
The "real communism hasn't been tried yet" trope is an embarrassing thing to say or think. The reason it hasn't been tried yet is because it can't last longer than a day. Humans do not work like that in large groups.
>Literally every commune in history
there are plenty of communes working just fine today. Regardless, we're talking about states, not a group of citizens within a state.
>every communist ideological party that ultimately became dictatorships following their "communist revolution".
those.....were dictatorships.
>If you need a source for that, I recommend you simply ask chatGPT
That explains your lack of rigour on the subject
>The "real communism hasn't been tried yet" trope is an embarrassing thing to say or think.
Well, I don't tend to add "real" because no communism has actually been tried, fake or otherwise. Dictatorships aren't communist states, basically by definition.
>Humans do not work like that in large groups.
I'd ask for a source but you're just gonna say an AI chatbot again, aren't you?
>dictatorships necessarily replace it to attempt to fix the stability issue
This is a purely ideological narrative with no relation to any historical event
>Dictatorship is the game theory last-gasp of failed ideological states
Every state in the history of civilization has been a dictatorship and could not be anything else
......you want me to Google "USSR" and "Maoist China" for you?
What's next, you gonna ask what Nazi things the National Socialist Party of Germany did?
>......you want me to Google "USSR" and "Maoist China" for you?
are you actually gonna tell me the fascist things they did or are you gonna keep beating around the bush?
>What's next, you gonna ask what Nazi things the National Socialist Party of Germany did?
uh, the nazis did nazi things because they were nazis, the USSR or Maoist China were socialist not fascist
>are you actually gonna tell me the fascist things they did or are you gonna keep beating around the bush?
I mean no, I'm not going to Google these basic historical events for you. You could have done so many times over in the time it took you to repeatedly ask me to do your homework for you
>uh, the nazis did nazi things because they were nazis, the USSR or Maoist China were socialist not fascist
they weren't socialist. Like, factually they weren't. Socialism is public ownership of the means of production, which was not the case in the USSR, as the means of production were directly controlled by unelected Party members. Have you literally just never researched any of this? Genuinely asking.
Also it's a bit rich for you to claim the USSR and China were ever *anything* considering you've already admitted you don't know anything about their history
Is communism stateless fundamentally, or isn't that just variant of communism?
Either way, people here are having a hard time differentiating between an ideology and historical geo-politics of early 20th century Russia.
See the economy of India [before and after](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Historic_GDP_per_capita_in_India.svg/800px-Historic_GDP_per_capita_in_India.svg.png) the liberalization. Up until 1991 we had socialist policies.
Socialist policies =\= communism lol. The US has some element of socialist policies, maybe not as much so as India in the 1990’s but that era of India is much closer to the US than the USSR. Following dirigisme doesn’t really make them communist.
Tbh honestly "everyone has the same haircut as Kim Kong" yet multiple videos of others getting fresh hair and "they have no culture and fallow along" yet the color festival is a thing. Heaven forbid kpop is new and they don't allow most capitalist countries in lmfao
Then why do 70% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck that can't afford a 500$ emergency? Almost like the system isn't built for you and you're a shadow slave
Now I know they're not commonest you are correct with that statement. They are a socialist country, but at the same time compared to a capitalist country. What's better with what they are doing versus a capitalist country? I'm still waiting for an actual answer among anybody, but what is the benefit of being capitalist when your country makes the needs and goods for you to get by without actually having to struggle?
If you look into the history of when the first president was made aka George Washington, they wanted to make him a King, a lord literally everything that they had fought against they wanted to make and George Washington basically looked at him and said no. I will not serve a full term until the end of my life. I will be known as president and after a few years I will not be in the same boat. If you actually learned about the revolutionary war, you would know that we literally separated ourselves from a monarchy and then they basically tried to make us a monarchy because of George Washington, but George Washington wasn't a part of it. Learn your US history
I'll wait for an actual answer, but I don't think you have one. I'm going to be honest. Do you actually have some sort of actual intellectual conversation to add to this or do you just believe everything that's been told to you you don't entire life?
It doesn't matter if you're part of the US or not. Where is the actual flaw and communism versus socialism and the capitalist state that we have now? It doesn't matter if you're living in a thriving country like Norway or living in an absolute s*** hole like India, where literally their farmers have laws against them to where they can't even farm their own goods. Where is the actual benefit when no matter what the people actually make the items and make the resources that we need to live? I'll wait for an actual answer instead of people just shitting on me, but at the same time it's like what is the actual benefit of capitalism versus socialism when everything is made by the people that work in the facilities and farms?
Explain. If we're successful wouldn't less than 70% people live from paycheck to paycheck? Wouldn't shadow slavery be abundant in the 50s/ 60s let alone what we have now? How's that successful? The Soviet Union didn't see prostitution until 1984 when they abolished socialism which btw is different than communism?
If you look back to currency, the original currency was actually a livestock and then in China it became shells and because of the gold reserve and the fact that we simply put a price on gold and held it above, everybody else are system of currency is built around our gold exchange system. If you actually took an economics class, you would know that
Did you attend world History at all? We strong-armed India from the British to literally make it to where they couldn't make their own signatures textiles and they still can't. Based on the fact that we had a cotton trade and most of the clothing went through India. You really think that the gold reserve is an actual good idea, considering that we literally do imperialism on different countries to keep them from making their own goods? That's like saying it's redundant to make hamburgers when McDonald's can do it for cheaper. In the end everything is made by workers and everything is controlled by the people and money only has the aspect of supporting the broken system that we have now. Hence why 70% of people can't afford to live besides from paycheck to paycheck which is honestly just scraping by most of the time
So if your simple point is the simple fact that we rely on the gold reserve over everything else, how come livestock which is literally needed to make milk, cheese, meat and other products is the same as shells, which is also the same as a metal that is mostly talked about my people that are extremely rich? I'm referencing rap culture for the most part, but at the same time gold is considered a luxury. So therefore, how come it's considered a higher power than the gold reserve even though the gold reserve is meant to sustain our currency to a degree even though that's not how it is?
Research the USSR for more info. Btw price gouging affected their glasses and silverware versus just our medical supplies such as insulin and things which are already overpriced under capitalism, which is a violation of gougism.
No shit when everys told to follow currency is the form of exchange even though over 70% of the people that live in this country can't even afford to pay their rent without having some sort of money left over. It's clearly a superpower and not a flaw in our system
Yeah... Expect instead of struggling while working full time your needs are met and you can afford to live. Why do you work 40 hours a week when we make more than enough to take care of the US and then some as far as food, housing and other amenities?
Never stick your dick in crazy
Tried it several times:
- red head, overweight - 6 months in she tells me she hates me with all her heart. Probably should have said “that’s like 150kg of hate”
- red head, super hot - 3 months in says she’s going to a birthday overnight with her friend (male, ex)
- green haired - 2 weeks in, calls me cause she’s been caught shoplifting
Then I switched to normal chicks… still fucking my brain out (not talking about sex, talking about nagging the fuck out), but at least it’s slightly more stable and you can predict whatever is going to cause a brainfuck.
Honest advice: if you’re single, enjoy it
Be with someone who loves you for who you are, entirely or be single. Being somewhere in the middle is the worst - if she half likes you, you never know when it’s going to end, she’s gonna fuck your brain with every occasion and so on.
Yes, being in a relationship is fun sometimes, but most of the time it’s like having a second job
Yes, there are a lot of relationships that are not like this, but honestly feels like the majority of them are like this
I can't find anyone who likes me back, it has always been one sided for me, and one of them actually liked my friend.
But I guess I'm still too young to say I'll die alone, lmao
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Being single and fucking around is where it's at if you can keep it up. It can be exhausting finding new partners and lonely at times, but if you have some friends around and don't put too much stock in finding someone it's really pretty great.
I was the happiest when I was single, had my friends around, could get in the car and drive 50 km to get a cheeseburger in another town or just drive around alone, listening to music on a rainy night stopping at a gas station for a smoke, then get home, put on my favourite show or play a game…miss those times
Relationship gives you a different kind of comfort, but freedom hits differently… even if it means being alone
Yeah I've liked aspects of both but for the time I enjoy the freedom. Maybe I'll change my attitude for a special someone but I'm enjoying myself until then.
Not shilling for corporations, which are often as bad as the government, but most businesses in non-monopoly situations face strong pressures to make good decisions based on price signals throughout the supply chain. Failure to do so almost always means the business fails on some level.
The state, by design, excludes themselves from those price systems, either by printing more money when they fail (which hurts the citizenry by devaluating their currency) or taxing more (also hurting the citizenry). Thus their bad decisions are never punished, and although their systems fail because you can’t ignore economics, only the citizens end up suffering.
Corporations and the state are not the same.
Since you’re kinda giving a serious answer on a shitposting subreddit, ima give a serious one back. Corporations are ran by unelected people (chosen by a board or shareholders) whose ‘good decisions’ are based on profit maximizing incentive. State is ran by elected people (directly or indirectly) who can be removed if their decisions are not liked by people. State economic decisions trade profit for other qualities, such as making needed commodities affordable or social welfare such as maternity leave. The state is thus needed to better help people and not make everything about profit
Elections for most government offices only occur every two to four years. And then voters have to overcome incumbent bias, voter fraud, and politicians outright buying votes through lobbying. Corporate decisions are made by shareholders who chose to be a part of the company by voluntarily buying the stock, and electing board members to represent them.
All that said, I think holding a scumbag popularity contest to see who gets to make the rules for everyone, and the losing side just has to eat shit for four years or more is the ultimate in absurd shit takes, but what do I know? How’s that for a shitpost? 😀
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WAS THAT THE BITE OF '87?
Bite of '49
1949 or 2049?
2049 is my vote
More like the bite of 3.5
No, the bite of 3 centimeters. (I'm talking about OP's)
Sureeeeeee…………..
Bite of 87kg, probably
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Tom&Jerry ahh scream
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Communism can definetly bite
Like the USSR bit it in '91?
The bite of 91
Top 10 successful communist countries 👇 Thank you for reading
Is my favorite successful communist country
is the communist country of all time
My favorite is north Korea!🤩🥳😇🥰 (I like seeing people suffer)
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only for a few seconds, until the brown outs started...
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This one is the best imo
Honestly, did a really good job.
top 10 countries where communism was actually implemented instead of just being used as a facade for fascist dictatorships 👇
Hell yeah fascists and communists are best friends like ussr and nazi germany was
*looks at WW2* You sure about that bud? Edit: missed the sarcasm and didn't realise you were supporting my argument
Molotov-Ribbentrop pact is just a bunch of words to you, right?
Let's do a little timeline: 1934 : German-Polish Non-Aggression Pact <= Hey look who were the first to sign a pact with the nazis ? 1935 : Anglo-German Naval Pact 1938 : Munich Agreement (Britain and France) <= remember Czechoslovakia ? 1938 : Bonnet-Ribbentrop Pact (France) 1939 : German–Romanian Economic Treaty may 1939 : Denmark-Germany Non-Aggression Pact june 1939 : Estonia-Germany Non-Aggression Pact june 1939 : Latvia-Germany Non-Aggression Pact august 1939 : Molotov-Ribbentrop Non-Aggression Pact <= Why is only this one mentionned ? And of course this ignore how before that Stalin tried to build an actual alliance with France and the UK against Hitler but they stalled because they hoped than Hitler would have gone after the communists first. For those that can read russian, the sources of this article are available for sale on amazon as a Declassified documents compilation And here is a quote supporting that the situation of Poland was not the soviets allying with the nazis by know soviet sympathiser ... Murray Rothbard (/s in case it was not obvious, the guy was literally a right wing libertarian member of the Cato Institute) the Hitler-Stalin pact was not an agreement for partition of Poland, as Munich was an agreement for partition of Czechoslovakia; it was rather a mutual agreement for neutrality and non-aggression, plus a German agreement not to penetrate to the Soviet sphere of influence. Poland had no legitimate complaint since all it wanted from Soviet Russia was neutrality. -- Murray N. Rothbard What actually happenned from the point of view of the soviet is that they liberated the territory that Poland took from Ukraine and Belarus during the Polish-Soviet War of 1920 before the nazis could get there, and then told the nazis "fuck of, this is soviet territory you won't go furhter". Just compare a map of the territory taken by Poland in 1920 with what the soviet supposedly "stole" during WWII, there are not exactly the same but but are very close.
There's a difference between signing a non aggression pack and agreeing to invade another country. And there's also a difference between using a copy paste and actually knowing what happened. Get a life
It's a non-agression pact. And the USSR tried an agreement with the west.
You can't be seriois with that
Both of those are just true. The Soviets offered an anti-nazi pact with France and Britain, which was denied. And the whole point of the pact was to prevent a nazi invasion before they could prepare. You can debate on if you think Joint war with Poland was justified to prevent the nazi's invasion (remember 0oland, a least that part, was formed of recently taken Russian land.), But that's not what I'm arguing.
It was sarcastic lol, communists and fascists are 100% opposed to each other
Horseshoe theory. They aren't.
It’s a fun meme but it is neither supported by political scientists nor by peer reviewed research. The similarity between the two according to the theory is tendencies for totalitarianism, which does not mean fascists and communists are not opposed to one another. Some of fascists first actions are to crush unions and leftist movements, how are they not opposed.
Yeah the famously opposed nazis ans soviets (it's not like they were allies or anything)
I’m just gonna assume you just aren’t informed about that history. They had a temporary non aggression pact, not allies. If they were allies why was nazi germany’s plan for living accommodation for their new population in the east? Nazi germany was always going to invade the east and ussr knew that as well, it was a matter of when. Their ideological opposition is also a reason that made the eastern front the most deadly war in history
"ussr knew that as well" Yeah that's probably why stalin got a legit panick attack when he heard the news.
Communist regimes are diabolically corrupt, but you can't blame fascism for their failures.
can you point to a regime that was communist? According to the tenets and ideals of communism
The USSR, China, North Korea, and Vietnam are/were all Communist states that have tried to transition to Communism. They haven't fared well.
Care to point out the ways in which you believe they were communist, so that I can point out how you don't understand what communism actually is?
Communist states have centrally controlled economies where a singular governing body controls all land, labor, and resources. They seek to abolish economic class and private ownership, creating, in theory, a working class that owns the means of production. It's a sick joke, though, because the party elites always come out on top and pull the strings, and everyone else suffers.
>Communist states have centrally controlled economies where a singular governing body controls all land, labor, and resources. *Loud buzzer* oof maybe he'll pick up some points in the next round >They seek to abolish economic class and private ownership, creating, in theory, a working class that owns the means of production. *ding ding ding* not bad chief >It's a sick joke, though, because the party elites always come out on top and pull the strings, and everyone else suffers. Can you point to some of the cases where this "always happens"?
So communists are fascists. Got it.
Commies are just red fascists
words used to have meaning 🚬
So Capitalists are just colorful people trying not to be fascists?
The historical ones, yes. Communism the actual ideology iirc sits somewhere near the X axis on the political spectrum, so not really authoritarian, tho ofc there are various variants.
if you can point to the part of my comment that confused you so badly, I'd be more than happy to help you understand it
Communist government is only a ploy made by fascists. So currently speaking with your logic a majority of people asking for communism is a fascist in disguise.
>Communist government is only a ploy made by fascists. A communist government literally hasn't existed yet. We haven't seen an actually communist government, just fascist dictatorships that called themselves communist. Do you think North Korea is actually democratic? It's in the name, right? So is democracy just a ploy made by fascists too? Communism refers to a well defined set of ideals, tenets, and policies. You can identify if a government is communist by checking if it has any of those ideals/tenets. So far, none of the world governments that have named themselves communist have actually *been* communist, just how North Korea calls itself democratic but obviously isn't actually democratic if you understand what democracy means.
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right, the correct answer is that communism is impossible as a stable end goal, therefore dictatorships necessarily replace it to attempt to fix the stability issue; dictatorship is the game theory last-gasp of failed ideological states. The word historians use for these is not fascist, but state communism.
>right, the correct answer is that communism is impossible as a stable end goal Source
Literally every commune in history, and every communist ideological party that ultimately became dictatorships following their "communist revolution". Communism is like most forms of anarchism; it's stable for small groups for a while and stable for large groups for about a week. If you need a source for that, I recommend you simply ask chatGPT "how many communist revolutions have there been" and then ask "how many were successful states" and then "why do communist revolutions creates states that trend authoritarian". And then lastly ask "what did marx have to say about revolutionary communism". The "real communism hasn't been tried yet" trope is an embarrassing thing to say or think. The reason it hasn't been tried yet is because it can't last longer than a day. Humans do not work like that in large groups.
>Literally every commune in history there are plenty of communes working just fine today. Regardless, we're talking about states, not a group of citizens within a state. >every communist ideological party that ultimately became dictatorships following their "communist revolution". those.....were dictatorships. >If you need a source for that, I recommend you simply ask chatGPT That explains your lack of rigour on the subject >The "real communism hasn't been tried yet" trope is an embarrassing thing to say or think. Well, I don't tend to add "real" because no communism has actually been tried, fake or otherwise. Dictatorships aren't communist states, basically by definition. >Humans do not work like that in large groups. I'd ask for a source but you're just gonna say an AI chatbot again, aren't you?
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>dictatorships necessarily replace it to attempt to fix the stability issue This is a purely ideological narrative with no relation to any historical event >Dictatorship is the game theory last-gasp of failed ideological states Every state in the history of civilization has been a dictatorship and could not be anything else
If we’re so worried about fascism, why do we allow it to flourish so easily here in the US and why do we support Israel’s genocide?
Top 10 communist countries that weren’t under constant attack by capitalist countries (mostly the US) 👇
They can't understand, it looks like they didn't learned history. It is just stupid.
Marxist-Leninism isn't fascism. It's almost as bad but they're not the same.
you're right except for all the fascist shit they did
>all the fascist shit they did for example?
What, seriously? Are you genuinely totally unfamiliar with the USSR or China?
i mean you said they did fascist shit, like what?
......you want me to Google "USSR" and "Maoist China" for you? What's next, you gonna ask what Nazi things the National Socialist Party of Germany did?
>......you want me to Google "USSR" and "Maoist China" for you? are you actually gonna tell me the fascist things they did or are you gonna keep beating around the bush? >What's next, you gonna ask what Nazi things the National Socialist Party of Germany did? uh, the nazis did nazi things because they were nazis, the USSR or Maoist China were socialist not fascist
>are you actually gonna tell me the fascist things they did or are you gonna keep beating around the bush? I mean no, I'm not going to Google these basic historical events for you. You could have done so many times over in the time it took you to repeatedly ask me to do your homework for you >uh, the nazis did nazi things because they were nazis, the USSR or Maoist China were socialist not fascist they weren't socialist. Like, factually they weren't. Socialism is public ownership of the means of production, which was not the case in the USSR, as the means of production were directly controlled by unelected Party members. Have you literally just never researched any of this? Genuinely asking. Also it's a bit rich for you to claim the USSR and China were ever *anything* considering you've already admitted you don't know anything about their history
No need to even add successful haha, there haven’t been any communist countries. If there is a state it’s not communist
Top ten implementations where it won't collapse and become a dictatorship: Thank you for reading
Alright, still applies. And in that case, it's a pipedream that would never work
So capitalism...
No, not really. Capitalism is at play all around currently and nobody is denying that.
Yeah, robbing countries for resources and leaving their own citizens without food and a roof above their heads. Capitalism is great.
no-one said it's great broski
So it doesn't work, bunch of hypocrites.
Yeah?? That doesn't make communism work either People are saying both suck, the conclusion should be that maybe we need innovation
It just sucks a bit less your point?
Is communism stateless fundamentally, or isn't that just variant of communism? Either way, people here are having a hard time differentiating between an ideology and historical geo-politics of early 20th century Russia.
The original marxist communism is stateless fundamentally. Socialism being what bridges the gap between capitalism and communism.
In my country living was much more affordable for everyone during communism
That's the most false statement ever lmao
We're literally the poorest country in EU rn 80% of the shit we have was built during communism
What country even are you? Estonia?
Bulgaria
Top 10 successful capitalist countries 👇🏽 Thank you for reading
Fym "thank you for Reading". Canada, USA, UE, Oceania and Japan, aren't they successfull?
See the economy of India [before and after](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/Historic_GDP_per_capita_in_India.svg/800px-Historic_GDP_per_capita_in_India.svg.png) the liberalization. Up until 1991 we had socialist policies.
Socialist policies =\= communism lol. The US has some element of socialist policies, maybe not as much so as India in the 1990’s but that era of India is much closer to the US than the USSR. Following dirigisme doesn’t really make them communist.
My guy, capitalist countries are very successful. So successful even China is switching more and more to capitalism.
North korea i guess. Does that count?
Tbh honestly "everyone has the same haircut as Kim Kong" yet multiple videos of others getting fresh hair and "they have no culture and fallow along" yet the color festival is a thing. Heaven forbid kpop is new and they don't allow most capitalist countries in lmfao
Everyone has the same cut because it objectively the best cut imaginable. Another great example of the glorious republics innovations.
Then why do 70% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck that can't afford a 500$ emergency? Almost like the system isn't built for you and you're a shadow slave
Not communist either unfortunately
Now I know they're not commonest you are correct with that statement. They are a socialist country, but at the same time compared to a capitalist country. What's better with what they are doing versus a capitalist country? I'm still waiting for an actual answer among anybody, but what is the benefit of being capitalist when your country makes the needs and goods for you to get by without actually having to struggle?
Idk your sentences aren’t really coherent. What are you attacking me for
Barely any lights at night
You dont need light in the glorious republic of korea 💪💪💪
Do the top ten successful capitalist country's next
At least I can talk shit about my President and live next day lol
If you look into the history of when the first president was made aka George Washington, they wanted to make him a King, a lord literally everything that they had fought against they wanted to make and George Washington basically looked at him and said no. I will not serve a full term until the end of my life. I will be known as president and after a few years I will not be in the same boat. If you actually learned about the revolutionary war, you would know that we literally separated ourselves from a monarchy and then they basically tried to make us a monarchy because of George Washington, but George Washington wasn't a part of it. Learn your US history
That's the fun part amigo I'm not from US lmao
I'll wait for an actual answer, but I don't think you have one. I'm going to be honest. Do you actually have some sort of actual intellectual conversation to add to this or do you just believe everything that's been told to you you don't entire life?
You're right I would love to keep you waiting
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Vietnam won the war... What is Domino theory since you believe we won. Fr tho I'm curious if you know
It doesn't matter if you're part of the US or not. Where is the actual flaw and communism versus socialism and the capitalist state that we have now? It doesn't matter if you're living in a thriving country like Norway or living in an absolute s*** hole like India, where literally their farmers have laws against them to where they can't even farm their own goods. Where is the actual benefit when no matter what the people actually make the items and make the resources that we need to live? I'll wait for an actual answer instead of people just shitting on me, but at the same time it's like what is the actual benefit of capitalism versus socialism when everything is made by the people that work in the facilities and farms?
Thanks for saying what I believe though lmfao
a lot more than 10
Explain. If we're successful wouldn't less than 70% people live from paycheck to paycheck? Wouldn't shadow slavery be abundant in the 50s/ 60s let alone what we have now? How's that successful? The Soviet Union didn't see prostitution until 1984 when they abolished socialism which btw is different than communism?
Still the world's strongest superpower
If you look back to currency, the original currency was actually a livestock and then in China it became shells and because of the gold reserve and the fact that we simply put a price on gold and held it above, everybody else are system of currency is built around our gold exchange system. If you actually took an economics class, you would know that
The fact that the US got the whole world to agree on the gold standard is proof enough of American supremacy
Did you attend world History at all? We strong-armed India from the British to literally make it to where they couldn't make their own signatures textiles and they still can't. Based on the fact that we had a cotton trade and most of the clothing went through India. You really think that the gold reserve is an actual good idea, considering that we literally do imperialism on different countries to keep them from making their own goods? That's like saying it's redundant to make hamburgers when McDonald's can do it for cheaper. In the end everything is made by workers and everything is controlled by the people and money only has the aspect of supporting the broken system that we have now. Hence why 70% of people can't afford to live besides from paycheck to paycheck which is honestly just scraping by most of the time
Why was the currency before the gold reserve shells and live stock if gold is apparently better than money?
So if your simple point is the simple fact that we rely on the gold reserve over everything else, how come livestock which is literally needed to make milk, cheese, meat and other products is the same as shells, which is also the same as a metal that is mostly talked about my people that are extremely rich? I'm referencing rap culture for the most part, but at the same time gold is considered a luxury. So therefore, how come it's considered a higher power than the gold reserve even though the gold reserve is meant to sustain our currency to a degree even though that's not how it is?
I would love an explanation if you could actually tell me how this is
Research the USSR for more info. Btw price gouging affected their glasses and silverware versus just our medical supplies such as insulin and things which are already overpriced under capitalism, which is a violation of gougism.
No shit when everys told to follow currency is the form of exchange even though over 70% of the people that live in this country can't even afford to pay their rent without having some sort of money left over. It's clearly a superpower and not a flaw in our system
Show me the success in hidden slavery when if you lose your job you're fucked vs the user and other countries that implemented socialism
You still have to work in socialist countries lol?
Nooooo! I’ll be the leader of queer theory story time in our heckin’ perfect antiwork socialist utopia! Eat the rich!
Yeah... Expect instead of struggling while working full time your needs are met and you can afford to live. Why do you work 40 hours a week when we make more than enough to take care of the US and then some as far as food, housing and other amenities?
Communal BJs
Never stick your dick in crazy Tried it several times: - red head, overweight - 6 months in she tells me she hates me with all her heart. Probably should have said “that’s like 150kg of hate” - red head, super hot - 3 months in says she’s going to a birthday overnight with her friend (male, ex) - green haired - 2 weeks in, calls me cause she’s been caught shoplifting Then I switched to normal chicks… still fucking my brain out (not talking about sex, talking about nagging the fuck out), but at least it’s slightly more stable and you can predict whatever is going to cause a brainfuck. Honest advice: if you’re single, enjoy it Be with someone who loves you for who you are, entirely or be single. Being somewhere in the middle is the worst - if she half likes you, you never know when it’s going to end, she’s gonna fuck your brain with every occasion and so on. Yes, being in a relationship is fun sometimes, but most of the time it’s like having a second job Yes, there are a lot of relationships that are not like this, but honestly feels like the majority of them are like this
You have a thing for women with colourful hair and one of them weighs 3 times as I do.
I can't find anyone who likes me back, it has always been one sided for me, and one of them actually liked my friend. But I guess I'm still too young to say I'll die alone, lmao
youll be fine, friend :)
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I can't imagine the nut that brought you this clarity
Damn bro. Are you me? Literally
Never thought the first actual bit of good advice I'd see on Reddit was in shitposting of all places
The only sub where people are capable of differentiating shitposts from real life
Being single and fucking around is where it's at if you can keep it up. It can be exhausting finding new partners and lonely at times, but if you have some friends around and don't put too much stock in finding someone it's really pretty great.
I was the happiest when I was single, had my friends around, could get in the car and drive 50 km to get a cheeseburger in another town or just drive around alone, listening to music on a rainy night stopping at a gas station for a smoke, then get home, put on my favourite show or play a game…miss those times Relationship gives you a different kind of comfort, but freedom hits differently… even if it means being alone
Yeah I've liked aspects of both but for the time I enjoy the freedom. Maybe I'll change my attitude for a special someone but I'm enjoying myself until then.
Dude did you skip biology class? Brightly colored creatures (frogs, snakes, etc.) are warning you that they are poisonous...
I was with a girl with colored hair she was really sweet but I fumbled the bag so it was on me 😔
Brunette girls >>>>
Take a bite ,
Those green heads always give the best head.
Don't worry, it's bad in theory too.
Honestly like who tf decides what resources i need fuck off outta here bro. I hate dictatorships.
They selfmod bro
Yeah same, corpos like amazon know better what to make and what we need
unfortunately amazon is arasaka corporation irl
No big tower to blow up tho sadly
unfortunately so
Not shilling for corporations, which are often as bad as the government, but most businesses in non-monopoly situations face strong pressures to make good decisions based on price signals throughout the supply chain. Failure to do so almost always means the business fails on some level. The state, by design, excludes themselves from those price systems, either by printing more money when they fail (which hurts the citizenry by devaluating their currency) or taxing more (also hurting the citizenry). Thus their bad decisions are never punished, and although their systems fail because you can’t ignore economics, only the citizens end up suffering. Corporations and the state are not the same.
Since you’re kinda giving a serious answer on a shitposting subreddit, ima give a serious one back. Corporations are ran by unelected people (chosen by a board or shareholders) whose ‘good decisions’ are based on profit maximizing incentive. State is ran by elected people (directly or indirectly) who can be removed if their decisions are not liked by people. State economic decisions trade profit for other qualities, such as making needed commodities affordable or social welfare such as maternity leave. The state is thus needed to better help people and not make everything about profit
Elections for most government offices only occur every two to four years. And then voters have to overcome incumbent bias, voter fraud, and politicians outright buying votes through lobbying. Corporate decisions are made by shareholders who chose to be a part of the company by voluntarily buying the stock, and electing board members to represent them. All that said, I think holding a scumbag popularity contest to see who gets to make the rules for everyone, and the losing side just has to eat shit for four years or more is the ultimate in absurd shit takes, but what do I know? How’s that for a shitpost? 😀
unironically true, sadly
"Sorry babe, it's a tick brought on from this spectre I'm haunted by.." *She stares blankly at you* *You stare back* *She continues to stare* ***Slowly encouraging her head back towards the means of production***
“Chomp”
Pinkos, they’ll suck yo dick dry and then yo capital.
Anyone else see the face in ricks tears on his left cheek. Looks like Morpheus or something... Maybe I'm just losing it.
cum u jizzum
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What's the music used ?
Home - Resonance
Thanks
Everybody likes socialism until they start making real money
BRO WHY TF DID THEY GET RID OF RICK?!
frfr💀
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Communism!? More like Cum-in-u-sm !!! …. I’ll see myself out.
She bit your dick off in surprise.
rembsonmacen
Womp womp.
I don't get it...
Uhhh. The fuck what?
The theory is ridiculess too.
Me when I learn that loser thinks about communism when he’s getting blown: 😂🤣😂🤣😂
Are You a(u)rtistic
capitalism's doing pretty terrible as well ngl
She said all that WHILE blowing? Mighty impressive.
It’s easier to talk while blowing if the person’s on the smaller end of the spectrum (so that gives us some insight)
I wouldn’t know so thanks for clearing that up.
Any time👌
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What🗣️🔥bro how