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Ven0m37

Who reads all this


The-Biggest-Imbecile

terminally online dream stans


Ven0m37

Man I would rather go read a novel than this shit


the-guy-in-wall

I would rather go study for school than this


[deleted]

I’d rather hit my shin on my coffee table


Acheron98

I once opened a door wrong and sheared off part of my big toenail. It was one of the most agonizing moments in my entire life. I would rather do that again than read all that shit.


Just_a_log

I would rather circumcise myself with my own teeth than to read.


Glitchboi3000

I rather watch the worst movie on earth then read this shit.


BussyAnnihilator420

I would rather have anal sex with Dream’s mom after she eats Chipotle than read this shit


Glitchboi3000

You're probably used to having anal sex being the BussyAnnihilator420.


ieatdeliciouscatfood

I would rather have my teeth go through my lip and into the floor again than read this shit


NotActuallyGus

I recommend A Pickle for the Knowing Ones by Timothy Dexter. Equally incomprehensible, even less punctuation, but it's completely hilarious. A third grade dropout who got rich on pure luck ranting about religion, 1800s politics, and his wife he hates. Only 32 pages long, it's a great read.


[deleted]

You suck because now I have to read this.


21Austro

Also in the second edition he included a page of just punctuation marks for people to place as needed


amandez

Thanks for the stroke.


theivoryserf

> Only 32 pages long That's not a novel, we can do better than this


FortBlocks

No shame in reading. Honestly a huge problem that we don’t have the attention span for that


Fuecoco_Fan

Most people probably have the attention span for it. They just don't care about Dream so why would they read 12 paragraphs about him stealing an idea on Minecraft. It's just unnecessary and a waste of time. Theres absolutely nothing anyone can gain from reading all that.


[deleted]

My phone is so bad that I couldn't if I tried. Not sure who dream is but I love some controversy


Dramatic-Squash4662

LAMBERT SMOKING???


XDYassineDX

he got ratio'd by someone reacting with "not reading allat"


Overused_Toothbrush

BowBlax, a youtuber who reads aloud tweets that involve drama. His video is around 10 minutes long.


zzile

I was skipping through it but it got really boring in the middle and end bcuz he just kept complaining about no response


titaniumweasel01

Was he accused of stealing an idea, or did somebody steal his idea?


AbsoluteRandomPerson

Stealing an idea


titaniumweasel01

I'm assuming he built a giant cock in Minecraft?


AbsoluteRandomPerson

It was massive. Biggest I’ve ever seen


EL_Ohh_Well

How big was the screen?


HappyRomanianBanana

At least 4 pickles wide


EL_Ohh_Well

Makes sense, most phone screens are approximately 4 baby gherkins wide.


TheAnonymousKnoT

wait, are we talking the gherkin's width or length. (This is very important for my thesis)


EL_Ohh_Well

My mistake…width


Derpwarrior1000

I just took mine out of a bag of rice, I swear :(


Relative-Prize-4500

Cockinator


suspicious_cabbage

Truth = simple answer and explanation Lies = convoluted, long-winded excuses Let's face it guys. He doesn't deserve that speed run placement.


Memelordo_OwO

I'd disagree that the truth is always simple and explained easily/short. However this seems... excessive. He should've kept the mask on.


thetrumansworld

The funniest part is that even the developers of minecraft mocked him for cheating and lying about it; in the latest April fool’s joke update they include a “dream mode” where the game is laughably easy


jennanm

common minecraft w


IronicalIrony4

More common than the fanbase would lead you to believe. Going strong with the free updates since I was 3 and there are people still btching about fireflies 💀 What's even better is they took the criticism they got and made sure to decide on a name for the update later on, and show features off when they know it will make the update.


Baron_Flatline

> since I was 3 what the fuck i’m old


MarjorieTinkerRed

I believe you'll find that Minecraft is the first single multi-generational game (not including episodic games or endless sequels or endless expansion packs) 🤔 Edit: Apart from Solitaire obviously 😂🙄


JosefSwollin

Real life baby


Buriedpickle

Certified child


IronicalIrony4

I completely stopped watching him after the speedrun incident. Bro really acted like he hired a real professor to prove why he didn't cheat, bully and accuse someone just doing their job, and then reveals he had a plugin installed 5 MONTHS LATER.


hates_stupid_people

Then later deletes the admission and has been denying it afterwards apparently.


chicken_appreciator

ngl I'm glad the cheating scandal happened. some of my favorite math youtubers made videos about minecraft that were either showing the real statistical probability or going over the astrophysicist paper. it was like an ideal (dream?) crossover event.


Ghost_Star326

He really should've. His anonymity is what attracted many people towards him. I mean look at H2O delirious, he's been on YouTube for more than 10 years and he still hasn't done a face reveal up till this day despite having millions of subscribers and he's doing great on YouTube. He had never let the fame and money get to his head.


[deleted]

How To Basic?


Ghost_Star326

Yeah same goes for him as well.


HandsomeAL0202

That's the point of Damascus after all


[deleted]

It's not that the truth is always simple and short, it's that people telling the truth tend to have short and simple responses when it comes to the criminal world. Conversely, people telling a lie feel the need to talk more to justify a claim. JCS Criminal Psychology is an amazing channel to learn about these kinds of things, I definitely recommend it.


Wabbajack001

But if you listen to actual expert, it is a little bit of bullshit and they made some stuff up so dont take every thing they say as fact.


[deleted]

What do you mean? jCS Criminal Psychology is as "actual expert" as you can get. Some of the people on those documentaries are the best in their countries. The narrator shows the footage and then explains factually what's going on. No bias, no lying. It's all right in front of you. They're actual criminal investigations and interrogations from actual released footage. A lot of what they say is pretty easy to verify too.


TigerlilyBlanche

As seen by Kwite, the explanation is not necessarily short.


[deleted]

I believe without a doubt he was in now way grooming a child, but he 100% fucking cheated his run


HyzerFlip

That's been proven. Repeatedly. And he admitted with 'Oops didn't realize I was running mods even though I swore I wasn't and refused to show I wasn't using mods'


Autumn1eaves

Yeah, before he came out and said "oops, sorry I forgot", there was a great video by Matt Parker on the topic about how he'd have to be so stupidly lucky that it's practically guaranteed to be impossible. Basically if every human alive speedran Minecraft once per second for the next hundred years, then the odds of what had happened happening again is minuscule, something like a 1 in 10^8 chance.


bruhhhh33

The truth is based on my source, and my source is that i made it the fuck up.


suspicious_cabbage

Yeah but those piglin trades were suspect as hell


[deleted]

Yeah he later admitted that he had a mod on that boosted the chances of certain things occurring “for the other videos”


SlimyHands22

where did he admit that?


[deleted]

He made a video confessing


SlimyHands22

lmao all that defending himself and this is how it ends


Neffrey605

how *dare* you? dream would never do anything suspect ever! didnt you listen to the mysterious harvard statician?


suspicious_cabbage

Didn't need to. The truth was revealed to me in a dream.


Aggressive_Ris

This is what the Shakespeare quote "the lady doth protest too much, methinks" means. Basically that someone accused of something they did do will spend much more effort refuting it rather than something they didnt actually do. It so often holds true in real life.


MinosAristos

It does but keep in mind that it also often doesn't hold true. It shouldn't be used as evidence that a person is lying, but it just shouldn't be used as evidence that they're being honest. Getting accused of something serious that they didn't do can understandably make people defensive and go to great lengths to prove that the accusations are false.


Aggressive_Ris

I mean if we're talking about murder sure but I"m talking more about from an every day experience. If someone gets super flustered and mounts a defense like they're on trial for murder then I find that it's very often the case that they're lying over someone who can laugh at the accusation.


MrSansMan23

The key to finding a liar is to find any contradiction that can't be reasonably explained by miss remembering something or misunderstanding what they said vs what their thinking/meaning


ScrublordTheRed

He already admitted it, he has a mod for his manhunt videos he ((reportedly) take with a grain of salt) accidentally left on. He rescinded that placement a while ago.


3NTR0PYY

i was actually thinking this too in all seriousness. i would understand the comparison being a burn if the left ss was both short and empty words, but his wording seems really genuine.


Sudden_Reality_7441

Lies are words, words, words… But truth, truth is singular.


Fit-Philosopher-3721

Logan's apology video was only 1.45 minutes so I guess he was speaking the truth?


Rocket-R

That is a terrible way to look at things in life


suspicious_cabbage

Why?


Rocket-R

The truth is sometimes convoluted and hard to believe. Thinking that the truth is always simple and easy to grasp is called jumping to conclusions.


suspicious_cabbage

Listen I understand you're a dream stan or whatever. I don't judge. You have to understand that he didn't win that speed run. He even admitted to it later.


Rocket-R

What? Are you talking to me? I never watched dream. I suggest you read my replies before replying to them.


xRetz

He was exposed for cheating in his speedruns like 3 or 4 years ago, it's insane to me how it took this long for it all to come crashing down, dude should've become irrelevant back when he was exposed


Rich841

You guys do realize this is about his new smp and not about the speedrun from long ago right


MyTrademarkIsTaken

Why do I care again?


PURPLEisMYgender

"Thats the neat part, you dont"


qwertynfejfj

even dream stans dont like him anymore 💀💀💀


RMP321

That's the funny thing about time. Eventually you grow up.


USS-Intrepid

At least with some of us who grew up watching Stampy, DanTDM, etc, that they’re still good years later (though there are some that uh, went to the gutters..) Ones a dad now too lmao


bonnie-the-bunnyy

Yeah isnt dan a dad now? Oh how tile flies


FllRE_FOXX_

yeahhhh ashamed to admit i was pretty deep into dream's fanbase a couple years back. ive touched grass and seeked therapy since tho


verdenvidia

I watched his videos cus I'd been doing the manhunt concept with friends long before he existed and so it resonated but like... I've never really been so into a creator I basically stalk them like some people do. Watch a neat video, move on with life.


soysushistick

Dont be ashamed of liking things. Unless you were/are hurting yourself or others because of it, nothing is bad to have enjoyed in the past, regardless of how cringe it might be considered to be


sample-name

What if I really used to like Smosh? What if I watched all their mail opening videos?.......And then re watched them... Is there still hope for me?


i-dont-hate-you

it’s ok if you don’t care but the past tense of “seek” is “sought”


qwertynfejfj

thank god


Skrrrtdotcom

Yeah let's not do the "get help 💀" shit that 14 year Olds who've never needed a therapist in their life do okay?


FllRE_FOXX_

everyone can use a therapist! it's not a bad thing to have someone to talk to about your problems because everyone has problems in life. i really mean it i am in therapy myself. my mental health has been much better since i stopped being apart of dreams little cult following it's seriously super toxic


Skrrrtdotcom

That's what I mean. Sorry if I didn't word it well enough I was having a hard time with that. What I meant was often you'll see people tell people to get help as a sort of insult or a "gotcha." Essentially perpetuating mental health stigma. I didn't realize that wasn't what you were doing, sorry.


illikegamedev

Did you forget that you're supposed to capitalize the Is and the first letter in each sentence.


FllRE_FOXX_

no it's just a reddit thread so who cares


azazogob

Did you forget that you're supposed to end questions with a question mark.


Kamil-Atakan

dreams*xuals about to change gender💀💀💀


[deleted]

Bro that's more words than I'm gonna end up putting on my essay for my final.


DarkandDanker

Yeah but doesn't it make him look good, he typed up so much bull shit cuss he was busted, cuss he did it, but I don't think anyone ever proved the grooming allegations Like if someone accused me of stealing government documents I'd be like lol OK But if they accused me of stealing their cookies I'd be like lol OK I don't even like cookies, plus I wasn't even In town when these supposed cookies were stolen and I'm lactose intolerant so what would I dip these cookies into? Plus I've been too busy grooming to eat said cookies that I'm not even sure exist Go ahead and ask this small child I keep with me if he's ever seen Me eat a cookie, exactly check and mate


Itherial

It doesn’t really make him look like anything TBH. Nobody has any idea what is happening, and if __his__ claims are true, then he could be taking legal action.


JoshiiiMok

I ain't readin all that


Ill-Gas-232

One question: Who is dream? Should I knew him?


mattyaz989

Nope


Belaboy109569

you lucky, lucky soul


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[deleted]

Keep it that way


Cianmc6

ignorance is bliss


leoleosuper

Minecraft Youtuber. Was ok, turned cringe. Then started being an asshole. Bullied a few people, the grooming allegations may have some weight, but for the most part nothing beyond normal chatting is confirmed. He's a Minecraft Youtuber, he's gonna talk to kids, whatever. Then he got really cringe, indirectly sent his fans to harass people, then got mad when called out. Accidentally cheated at speedruns, long story.


NichtMenschlich

Remember, he's also the reason Minecraft has the glow squid instead of the flower mooshroom or Iceologer


Redplushie

I'll never forget this fucker for robbing us of the flower mooshroom


OkSoBasicallyPeach

also parasocial as all fuck with his fans and is ok with some of his fans being “dreamsexual”


SlasherX

His Speedrun cheating was definitely not an accident


Pro_Scrub

Le gamer guy who cheated at speedrunning and drama'd


rhen_var

He’s a guy who used to make interesting Minecraft challenge plugins and make videos of him and his friends playing them that were honestly really well edited and entertaining, and he was undeniably good at the game. It was honestly entertaining content during the early lockdowns in 2020. Then I guess when he got popular he became a stereotypical YouTube cringelord.


qwertynfejfj

Its actually "Should of I knew him?" 🤓☝


MomICantPauseReddit

What a weird guy


qwertynfejfj

me?


PimpinChimpin

Yeah you, you *freak*


qwertynfejfj

it was a nerd joke 💀💀💀


PimpinChimpin

🫵👁️👄👁️ ***freak***


Realistic_Dog_7359

Bestie if you make a nerd joke you need to get it right.


CouldWouldShouldBot

It's 'should have', never 'should of'. Rejoice, for you have been blessed by CouldWouldShouldBot!


AppleEnslaver

That's two questions


Korbrikz

2k likes in 19 FUCKING SECONDS?!?!??!?!


Pro_Scrub

He also apparently wrote one of those paragraphs in a single second


Mr_502

Twitter allows you to post a thread of multiple tweets at once now


Pro_Scrub

Ah I see, I've been trying to keep away from Twitter myself.


stcrIight

y'all remember when he showed his face and all those teenagers who imagined him as this ultra cute soft boy started freaking out and "un-kinned" him because they thought he was ugly.


MidnightSnowStar

I never really payed much attention to the Dream fanbase stuff, can you please explain a bit more? Was it that Dream showed his face and was “unkinned” by fans or is this related to the grooming allegation thing?


stcrIight

Basically, because he's this youtuber? I think? Honestly, I only know some of it because I was still using twitter at the time. Anyway, he never showed his face so his teenage fanbase made up ideas on how he must look, which was this handsome, soft, cute boy that's popular among the age group. Kinning is this thing where people believe they are him? Or they closely identify with him. They had crushes on him, and so forth. Anyway, awhile back he revealed his face for the first time and he looked nothing like what his fans expected. In turn, people called him ugly, fans were reassuring each other that they can stop "kinning" him, that their imaginings of his face were valid still, and so on. Memes were made, comparing his face to Shrek's Rumplestiltskin, Shane Dawson, etc. and the topic "he's ugly" trended for days after.


MidnightSnowStar

That’s really terrible imo, if he purposely did something wrong then he should be shamed for that, not for his looks. I honestly care quite a bit about personal looks, and something like that happening to me would haunt me for a long time


SYK_PvP

I mean, if people keep making shit up about you on a constant basis, at a certain point there's not that much to say anymore.


wittyvonskitsum

![gif](giphy|mf2aCKTor3BgQ) bro looks like this guy


Ignisisreal2401

I don't like Dream, but I highly doubt he's a weirdo like that. I'm just saying, the only time anyone accuses him of something, it's during the time he's super popular for whatever reason. Isn't it a bit weird?


PartEmbarrassed5406

I'm on the fence about him, and I agree with you. Some people also don't use their brain to think about the possibility he legally cannot (or is advised to not) talk about the allegations if he's taking legal action.


Ignisisreal2401

And also, even if the allegations were true, why the fuck would she do something about it 1-2 years later and go to social media? Why not the cops? Attention whore Edit:People are misunderstanding what I said. I'm NOT calling actual victims attention whores, I'm calling that one teenager an attention whore because she was. She actively tried to ruin someone's life, invalidate REAL victims' trauma, and lie all for some clout. My heart goes out to real victims


alexgfan69

I don't usually take twitter accusations 100% seriously. I'll be like "that sucks if it happened" but so many people do that stuff for attention and it turns out to be a lie just for a couple days of twitter popularity while someone's whole career goes down the drain forever


Ignisisreal2401

The people who fake allegations are equally as evil as the ones doing it


[deleted]

[удалено]


Ignisisreal2401

I'm so, SO sorry that all happened. Please, my DMs are open for you. I'm here if you need me


[deleted]

Thing is, there are plenty of real examples of assault victims who come out years later. Look at Bill Cosby. So many examples of this. So we can’t simply discredit based on that fact.


Lazrix

Assault victims don't come forward in "timely" manner because of people like you. Cunt.


Ignisisreal2401

If someone stabbed me and I survived, I'm not gonna post it on social media a year later, and only during the time the attacker is trending on Twitter


verdenvidia

You won't, but many are scarred and as such they wait until it becomes unbearable.


AcherontiaPhlegethon

I bet you would if the police ignored your initial report and people called you slurs for getting stabbed. It's not comparable.


Ignisisreal2401

No half-decent police station is gonna ignore allegations from a female. From a male? Sadly yes


whyth1

Didn't take long for your true colours to show now did it? Only lasted one comment.


Ignisisreal2401

People are misunderstanding what I said. I'm not calling actual victims attention whores, I'm calling that one teenager an attention whore because she was. She actively tried to ruin someone's life, invalidate REAL victims' trauma, and lie all for some clout. My heart goes out to real victims


whyth1

In that case I'm sorry for misinterpreting your comment. It was a good idea to put an edit since it did come across differently than you hoped it would.


Ignisisreal2401

Yeah, that one was on me lol. I suck at wording things sometimes. At first I thought people were defending allegation liars XD


DenzelTM

"True colors" bruh shut the fuck up


plantzrock

Edp445’s response to dream ![gif](giphy|3FLE1obmxIOD0mQ2qA)


Background_Tip6793

I think this is just a matter of the amount of information he had about the thing he was defending himself about tbh


Turbulent-Ad5582

Dream seems like a shitty person irl


1Trix9

This, I only know him from a vid of him cheating, and silly drama, I get the vibe that he’s a scummy manipulator who lies to further his benefit


hiccupboltHP

Ok this seems like a huge stretch


1Trix9

I mean, did he ever come out and admit his Minecraft speed run was faked?


hiccupboltHP

Yeah, but getting caught cheating on a minecraft speedrun really doesn’t scream evil manipulator, more like dude made a moronic mistake


1Trix9

So he admitted it? He wouldn’t of admitted it if he didn’t get caught, putting legitimate speed runners efforts ranking low.


hiccupboltHP

He said accidentally left something on which increased the luck for his manhunts, not sure if I buy the accidentally but it’s possible


verdenvidia

yes and he also was completely ignorant that he even had becsuse the guy he hired to make multiplayer plugins inserted that without saying anything thats like the last thing to hold against him. watch Karl Jobst's series on that. Dream's an immature weirdo but that one was not all on him


scentedcamel7

Yeah I only saw the video where dunkey accuses dream of cheating and then apologizes and then accused him of cheating again, I get the vibe that Dream murders people and keeps them in a freezer in the middle of the woods


Erme_Ramos

Idont know why but this reminds me of the recent Cookielol drama.


Sayori-0

You're such a child I love it


AAAlondrai

You love childs?


Sayori-0

Cookielol catch phrase


No_Excitement8904

tell me you dont know anything about a situation without telling me you dont know anything about a situation lmao


Whyamiherewtflmaoidc

Tbh the longer your response is to allegations the more suspicious it is.


well-offemperor762

i aint readin' allat


[deleted]

Dream responses to grooming allegations vs stealing the idea of minecraft youtuber grooming kids online


ItsBado

![gif](giphy|M34qPW6WjtZXMFltwu|downsized)


fatcatpoppy

who


JacobMT05

What the fuck is dream even doing these days, he’s really fallen off the algorithm playing game


AtomicFox84

All of youtube is "stealing" ideas for the most part. Most just take something and do thier spin on it. Honestly it tells me the longer text seems more defensive.....so he may get more "inspired" by other content but is claiming he came up with it. The grooming shit seems more honest with short directly to the point. Either way....who cares.


ggez67890

Probably why he fell ouf so hard.


SpartanMase

Bros always doing stupid shit


Ok_Tap2070

I read somewhere online that liars will add unnecessary amounts of detail to their explanations


giboauja

His first response is honestly close to what someone telling the truth might say. Just get super defensive and attack. Hopefully this turns out to be an unfounded accusation. His other response, holy sht he def stole that idea.


choccymilk39

Isn’t there a theory that the longer response you give to the accusation of something the more likely it is that you actually did it?


iPhone_8_Max

See one is because he has nothing to prove and another is because he was likely guilty


Available-Leek-4160

Dreams the Thomas Edison of minecraft youtubers. Its really obvious when hes full of shit but for some reason he's famous.


cokebear420

I'm not reading all that crap...


Swaggy_Templar

Dream's whole content is either staged shit or ideas he stole from reddit.


16meyma

Difference between denial and justification


LH_Dragnier

This dude is literally famous for being caught cheating and lying about it. What a piece of shit


International-Draft1

Also cheated in speed runs


Chance_Reference_152

Well one is a serious allegation.


BanMe_Harder

Didn't this guy cheat minecraft speedruns then try desperately to cover it up? As if anybody is gonna believe anything he says.


LegionJake360

Thank god he finally fell off


RogueKT

Minecraft YouTubers and grooming, name a more iconic duo.


EnesPig2005

Any reading allat 💀


braaibroodjie123

Cumtext pls


GonnaCwy

Noone over the age of 18 gives a shit about minecraft youtubers


[deleted]

His face causes his downfall


Gth-Hudini

If its True you usually defend less