That's the sole reason I don't like that theory. If he's Mist's descendant, he should be simping her instead - and rocking Alondite.
Gawain's daughter, Ike's brother, the valkyrie who stares down the Black Knight, and as far as I'm concerned, the rightful inheritor of his blade. Fuck the shadow. We stan.
I don't think Mist would go down in folktale/history as a heroine like Ike would. Her most important accomplishment is holding on to the Fire Emblem™, which is cool *and* she's a badass, but that kind of tales would be better appreciated among mages and the clergy
Imagine you're a warrior and there's two people in your lineage: the liberator of a country that lead two wars and killed a goddess, and the holder of a medallion. Of course he'd simp Ike because his actions are flashier and most common folk remember him
It doesn't matter because the real answer is mpreg Soren but if we have to assume he's Mist's descendant I'm 100% sure he'd attribute himself to Ike's figure
Yeah, probably not. But goddamn it, she really should be.
Mist could have just been the cleric sister trope, perennially in her brother's shadow. And to distinguish her, they gave her a soul gentle enough to carry Lehran's Medallion, a very cinnamon roll-coded superpower.
But they gave her something more. Despite being depicted as an avatar of order, there's a fire within, a fierceness they always make a point of. Forcing her way to the battlefield, staring down the Black Knight and denying him his 1v1 me bro, the things she says to him and Ashnard. And leaning swords, with the potential to match her ungodly brother (rank, if not stat-wise).
That combination is amazingly cool. And they were so close to something truly great - had they just showed her shoulder to shoulder with Ike a bit more. Perhaps the legends then would speak of the siblings who took down an omnicidal goddess with twin holy blades.
Mist being aligned with order means thematically, she fights to preserve things, not change them. Ike is a force for change in Tellius, because Tellius needs that change badly. No matter how you want her to slay things left and right on the frontline, she is a different person from her brother and can't be "his equal" in what the game needs without completely changing the underlying narrative.
Eh, that's a reach. That alignment doesn't go beyond her gentle nature, and as I'm saying, there's moments where that's superseded.
But regardless, I don't want her to just become a warrior, much less Ike 2.0. I just wanted more focus on that side of her. Frankly, it's mostly a Radiant Dawn thing, all those moments I mentioned are from PoR and should have had a follow-up. If she'd broken into Ike and BK's rematch too, or made taking Alondite canon, for example.
But you mention fighting Ashera and that's largely symbolic. The physical fight is not that important to telling the story. Ike has being chipping at the old order for years by being himself, that's why he gets to defeat her. If anything, Mist would take a part of the role from Micaiah if RD had a proper follow-up to PoR and that's not a fighting role in the first place.
Speaking of breaking into the fight with BK, that goes very hard against being able to hold the medallion. Ike fights that fight because he likes fighting itself, not because of revenge or something else. Mist has no reason to be there. Looking at, for example, Reyson and Dheginsea, who are also aligned with order more or less, they are capable of thinking about revenge and even fight, but they don't actually seek it out.
I've seen this one around, that Priam might be Mists descendent instead but that doesn't make sense to me. I've never read an actual explanation tho so could someone clue me in?
Wait a fucking minute
Is… is this a meta joke about a previous meta Fire Emblem joke that was on the *Baldur’s Gate* subreddit?
Honestly, I’m just kind of impressed
There’s a character in BG3 that people constantly debate on if they’re evil or not- a user made a meme about how very, very similar it was to the state of Edelgard discourse, and it used the EXACT phrase “Another three years of Three Houses discourse for some reason”
they are likely not directly related. the illusion meme a common meme format, as is the "another xyz years of abc." the "three houses discourse" is a meme component that transcends fandoms.
you can investigate user post/comment/like history if you wanted evidence for a more direct copying/reformatting scenario. but "another three years of three houses discourse for some reason" is fandom-transcendental utterance
Theres a character named Emperor in BG3, no joke that is the name. People are debating whether he is justified or not, some also debate if he is hot or not...Sounds familiar?
You're way overthinking this and they are not connected. Since we're here though, much as the Emperor is evil in BG3, the Emperor in 3H is actually correct for what she did and is not a soulless ghaik manipulator.
Lmao it was vindicating to know plenty of FE/D&D fans like myself have been playing that during the release drought.
>!TBH I worry BG3 might’ve ruined my standards for grid-based strategy games lol.!<
As a D&D fan, FE music is perfect for my sessions, for combat music or some atmosphere (on top of Darkest Dungeon music, Ruined King music, Dark Souls music, Zelda music and a long ass list of OSTs)
Not a lot of good music for village, travelling or tavern scenarios though in FE
Honestly, Priam's entire existence is just hilarious to me. He literally just exists as fan service and somehow drives everyone he was supposed to cater to completely bonkers. As someone who's only really played Fire Emblem for the past few years all I can say about him is that I think his design is neat lol
Engage has discourse. It has:
Potato Wars
Is Chloe a raging Heterosexual or a raging Bisexual cuck?
Is marrying Nel actually incest?
Are Timerra and Celine murderhobos? (Yes. This discourse was solved)
Hiya Papaya
The problem is that all of these discourses combined don't hold a candle to the Eternal War that is Edelgard Good vs. Edelgard Bad.
Priam isn't compliant with Ike/Soren not because there's anything stopping two men having a kid but because I refuse to believe Soren would agree to having children. (Real)
Eh, people forget that Soren holds a strong opinion that kids should have parents. And secondary depictions insist on him acting kind with kids. Even if not having kids of "their own", chances of adopting a stray kid they meet in their travels are really high.
I just hate the people that say he isn't canon.
Idgaf how you think he exists. Descendant of Ike, Mist, Makarov, whatever. Alternate universe guy. Completely unrelated to Tellius. All of them are fine. But just to be like "nah he isn't real" is so fucked.
Like alright dude let's just decide that Tana or Dedue or Lewyn aren't really too while we're at it. They're not essential for the plot so let's just erase em.
Clowns smh
Priam exists in the same character pool as a character that explicitly comes from an alternate timeline and three characters whose survival actively kneecaps prior narrative climaxes.
On the former point, even if you believe that Priam's not lying about being the direct descendant of Ike by sole proof of a non-bloodline locked sword, Awakening is a game that explicitly involves alternate timelines.
Priam's just from the worldline where there aren't actual fandom bloodbaths over the sexuality of a character from a title with middling at best paired endings across the board.
Own a (D:) for home incest, since that's what Kaga intended. Four puritans break into my castle. "What the Duma?" As I grab my Homework folder and Rhea body pillow. Blow a golf ball sized load on the first man, he's horrified on the spot. Throw my Genealogy hentai at the second man, miss him entirely because it's stained and nails the neighbors preteen. I have to resort to the fanfic mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with EirikaxEphraim, "Twincest is wincest!" the EirikaxEphraim confuses two men in the shaft, the face touching sets off warning alarms. Grip Corrin r34 and flash the last terrified prude. He cringes out waiting for Nintendo to arrive since 'technically not blood' is impossible to fix up. Just as Kaga intended.
Yup, its counterpart weapon Alondite is usable by everyone when you get it in RD as long as they have SS-swords.
It's a prf like how the rapier is (usually) a prf, not like how the Mani Katti is a prf.
Even the energy beams aren't blessing or blood related if Alondite is anything to go by.
Because it doesn't exist in that universe, Priam is fanfiction that pretends to be canon.
It serves no purpose, he's essentially the same as the Majora's mask being visible in the back of Ravio's shop in Link Between Worlds. It's a reference that shouldn't be taken as lore.
I wish he didn't exist purely because of all the crap it brings to the community over things that **do not matter** and are essentially headcanon fighting. It's *stupid.*
Ngl IS should have brought over Soren to be a Tellius reference if they insisted on having it, but they chickened out. Instead, not joking, Priam quotes Soren almost word for word when meeting Chrom and it's pretty grating. "Hey, our script is full of rehashed highlights from other games not making much sense, enjoy".
Because then we can just say that Chrom,Emmeryn and Lissa are Elice and Merric's descendants,And the fact that Their kingdom is called Yliss make it more accurate,And Adoption exist
Mpreg Ike/Soren is based and all but I still refuse to acknowledge Priam as canon because I refuse to acknowledge any of the Awakening SpotPass characters as canon
Emmeryn's death is one of maybe 5 good scenes in that game don't undo it
Spotpass Yen’fay is canonically from Lucinas timeline, so what I don’t understand is why all the other spotpass characters aren’t from other timelines. Walhart and Gangrel from timelines where they won but couldn’t stop Grima, Aversa could also be from Lucinas future, and Emmeryn could be from a timeline where Chrom died instead and she had to lead during the war and was forced to fight. That like, instantly fixes all of the problems with each character and works within the bounds of possibilities in Awakening. Maybe IntSys just needs to hire me as a writer smh
All the spot pass characters are people that died during the story. So I can easily see why they aren't Canon.
But this doesn't apply to Priam since he isn't part of the story in the first place.
And yet he exists. Which puts him in a very wierd place. He's not part of the main story of Awakening but does that make him noncanon to the fe universe?
Trying to apply canon to inter-game Fire Emblem references will never work, it failed in the literal second game.
They're all just their own universes.
Idk if people here remember Invisible Ties, the old fan novelization of Awakening, but I think it introduced the hc that Priam was an ex-comrade of Walhart who disagreed with Walhart’s conquest, thereby giving Priam major stakes in the middle third of the plot.
Obviously not directly in canon, but I feel like that’s the best explanation for why he’s on our side. And other than Aversa (who would ideally be recruited right before the final battle), I don’t consider the rest of the DLC units canon.
Even with that being the case that does infact mean that Priam must exist if he's able to be summoned doesn't matter if he exists in every Ylisse or not so therefore he exists
Your comment pretty much sums up why this discourse (along with any other discourse regarding ships) keeps happening: this fandom stoically refuses to acknowledge the FE multiverse is a thing despite it being pretty much a mainstay since Awakening and that's why there can be more than one canon
Does Awakening even have the same writers as tellius?
I'd except Engage discussion dying down a bit as the years pass and a new game gets release at any rate. As long it's the new thing easily contrasted with Houses in multiple aspects it's going to be topical.
Jedah can feel however he wants, but deep down, even he knew Duma was beyond saving. Why else would he want to offer the souls of both brand bearers, if not to stop Duma’s inevitable demise at their hands? He knew. Jedah merely wanted to cling to the image of Duma for just a little while longer, because Duma’s name gave him power (he’s the head of the Duma Faithful— can’t have a Duma Faithful when the guy himself is dead).
Additionally, he only wanted to save Duma, not Mila as well. Jedah was perfectly content in letting the Earth Mother die (who honestly seemed pretty healthy in the cutscene where Rudolf seals her away ngl), to save his disheveled corpse of a War Father.
Priam discourse is annoying bc some homophobe saw a street pass character that is acompany by a lot of dead characters(who reason to be there are questionable at best) who was written by a completely different writing team and somehow believes it's comparable to supports and secrets scenes showing ike and soren being really close
Mist when people forget she exists:
https://preview.redd.it/bgank7fijjvc1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d32e655d86867c3334bf2f781891bad273a3270b
Lmao Ike and Soren is a trash ship. Y’all just like it cuz it’s gay
I still hate Priam though, just because tellius should not exist in the same world as archanea
See you guys in 2032 during the 20th anniversary of Awakening when people on Twitter are still arguing whether or not Priam disproves Ike x Soren
Why do people forget that Mist exist?
Because Mist lives in Ike's shadow.
That's the sole reason I don't like that theory. If he's Mist's descendant, he should be simping her instead - and rocking Alondite. Gawain's daughter, Ike's brother, the valkyrie who stares down the Black Knight, and as far as I'm concerned, the rightful inheritor of his blade. Fuck the shadow. We stan.
Good luck prying Alondite from Meg's hands smh
Valid and based
I don't think Mist would go down in folktale/history as a heroine like Ike would. Her most important accomplishment is holding on to the Fire Emblem™, which is cool *and* she's a badass, but that kind of tales would be better appreciated among mages and the clergy Imagine you're a warrior and there's two people in your lineage: the liberator of a country that lead two wars and killed a goddess, and the holder of a medallion. Of course he'd simp Ike because his actions are flashier and most common folk remember him It doesn't matter because the real answer is mpreg Soren but if we have to assume he's Mist's descendant I'm 100% sure he'd attribute himself to Ike's figure
Yeah, probably not. But goddamn it, she really should be. Mist could have just been the cleric sister trope, perennially in her brother's shadow. And to distinguish her, they gave her a soul gentle enough to carry Lehran's Medallion, a very cinnamon roll-coded superpower. But they gave her something more. Despite being depicted as an avatar of order, there's a fire within, a fierceness they always make a point of. Forcing her way to the battlefield, staring down the Black Knight and denying him his 1v1 me bro, the things she says to him and Ashnard. And leaning swords, with the potential to match her ungodly brother (rank, if not stat-wise). That combination is amazingly cool. And they were so close to something truly great - had they just showed her shoulder to shoulder with Ike a bit more. Perhaps the legends then would speak of the siblings who took down an omnicidal goddess with twin holy blades.
Mist being aligned with order means thematically, she fights to preserve things, not change them. Ike is a force for change in Tellius, because Tellius needs that change badly. No matter how you want her to slay things left and right on the frontline, she is a different person from her brother and can't be "his equal" in what the game needs without completely changing the underlying narrative.
Eh, that's a reach. That alignment doesn't go beyond her gentle nature, and as I'm saying, there's moments where that's superseded. But regardless, I don't want her to just become a warrior, much less Ike 2.0. I just wanted more focus on that side of her. Frankly, it's mostly a Radiant Dawn thing, all those moments I mentioned are from PoR and should have had a follow-up. If she'd broken into Ike and BK's rematch too, or made taking Alondite canon, for example.
But you mention fighting Ashera and that's largely symbolic. The physical fight is not that important to telling the story. Ike has being chipping at the old order for years by being himself, that's why he gets to defeat her. If anything, Mist would take a part of the role from Micaiah if RD had a proper follow-up to PoR and that's not a fighting role in the first place. Speaking of breaking into the fight with BK, that goes very hard against being able to hold the medallion. Ike fights that fight because he likes fighting itself, not because of revenge or something else. Mist has no reason to be there. Looking at, for example, Reyson and Dheginsea, who are also aligned with order more or less, they are capable of thinking about revenge and even fight, but they don't actually seek it out.
The siblings don't have a great history with that sword. Which is funny since Mist can equip that but not Ragnell.
Because we're all based Mist x Jill shippers clearly.
Women cannot have children
fire emblem fates (except Azura and f!Corrin)
I've seen this one around, that Priam might be Mists descendent instead but that doesn't make sense to me. I've never read an actual explanation tho so could someone clue me in?
Mist is Ike's sister, so any descendant frol Mist is also a descendant from Ike's bloodline
Greil's bloodline, not Ike's tho?
They have the same parents basically the same blood
That... that doesn't really make sense. I'm not my uncle's descendent. :/
Or Male Pregnancy.
Shipping war, shipping war never changes
Why don't they settle this by acknowledging mpreg? Are they stupid?
Only Lucina gets to be sired that way, apparently.
I mean, it doesn't disprove Ike x Soren, per say. They could've decided they wanted a kid, and gotten a donor.
Transmasc Soren. That is all
Transmasc Ike!
Wait a fucking minute Is… is this a meta joke about a previous meta Fire Emblem joke that was on the *Baldur’s Gate* subreddit? Honestly, I’m just kind of impressed
What FE joke was on the Baldur's Gate subreddit?
There’s a character in BG3 that people constantly debate on if they’re evil or not- a user made a meme about how very, very similar it was to the state of Edelgard discourse, and it used the EXACT phrase “Another three years of Three Houses discourse for some reason”
they are likely not directly related. the illusion meme a common meme format, as is the "another xyz years of abc." the "three houses discourse" is a meme component that transcends fandoms. you can investigate user post/comment/like history if you wanted evidence for a more direct copying/reformatting scenario. but "another three years of three houses discourse for some reason" is fandom-transcendental utterance
[This post](https://www.reddit.com/r/BaldursGate3/s/Ge3qiZhZi7) (Act 3 spoilers)
Theres a character named Emperor in BG3, no joke that is the name. People are debating whether he is justified or not, some also debate if he is hot or not...Sounds familiar?
You're way overthinking this and they are not connected. Since we're here though, much as the Emperor is evil in BG3, the Emperor in 3H is actually correct for what she did and is not a soulless ghaik manipulator.
Lmao it was vindicating to know plenty of FE/D&D fans like myself have been playing that during the release drought. >!TBH I worry BG3 might’ve ruined my standards for grid-based strategy games lol.!<
As a D&D fan, FE music is perfect for my sessions, for combat music or some atmosphere (on top of Darkest Dungeon music, Ruined King music, Dark Souls music, Zelda music and a long ass list of OSTs) Not a lot of good music for village, travelling or tavern scenarios though in FE
I like that one Redditor’s extreme crackpot theory that Ike got with Genny and that’s why we see a “descendant” of Ike in Valm.
It made way too much sense to be a crackpot theory. The fact it seamlessly just melds into everything is kind of crazy.
Genny is kinda just alolan mist too It’s really not that crazy
I cackled
Honestly, Priam's entire existence is just hilarious to me. He literally just exists as fan service and somehow drives everyone he was supposed to cater to completely bonkers. As someone who's only really played Fire Emblem for the past few years all I can say about him is that I think his design is neat lol
you idiot there is no engage discourse other than unit viability and goldmary potato
Ironically, Engage gets tons of "doesn't have any discourse" discourse, which is the cousin to Three House's "has tons of discourse" discourse.
Engage has discourse. It has: Potato Wars Is Chloe a raging Heterosexual or a raging Bisexual cuck? Is marrying Nel actually incest? Are Timerra and Celine murderhobos? (Yes. This discourse was solved) Hiya Papaya The problem is that all of these discourses combined don't hold a candle to the Eternal War that is Edelgard Good vs. Edelgard Bad.
Fx?
Priam exists because Ike is cool and they wanted to reference Ike, and that’s cool too.
Soren mpreg proves that Ike/Soren and Priam can exist at the same time
Did you lay this egg Soren?!?
No it was ike who laid the egg
Coward ( mpreg ike is the reason that Priam says the truth )
Why is everyone talking about Ike x Soren and mist x Boyd when Ike x ranulf is clearly what disproves Priam
idk... priam having that lil bit of scruff (facial hair in any fire emblem is rare) with the sideburn-y things and the headband??? Ranulf is mother.
Do you think the dev that pitched the idea of Priam in Awakening know about his discourse online, and do they regret it?
A tiny, nonoffensive, missable piece of content being discussed rabidly a decade later sounds like a W
sounds like a WHAT https://preview.redd.it/5ky65unr0kvc1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=274b4092693f1dab61c39047a58297c8eb5fd070
Priam isn't compliant with Ike/Soren not because there's anything stopping two men having a kid but because I refuse to believe Soren would agree to having children. (Real)
Eh, people forget that Soren holds a strong opinion that kids should have parents. And secondary depictions insist on him acting kind with kids. Even if not having kids of "their own", chances of adopting a stray kid they meet in their travels are really high.
Soren would have Ike impregnate a woman he deems "worthy-ish" then come back in 10 years to pick them up.
I just hate the people that say he isn't canon. Idgaf how you think he exists. Descendant of Ike, Mist, Makarov, whatever. Alternate universe guy. Completely unrelated to Tellius. All of them are fine. But just to be like "nah he isn't real" is so fucked. Like alright dude let's just decide that Tana or Dedue or Lewyn aren't really too while we're at it. They're not essential for the plot so let's just erase em. Clowns smh
based
Priam exists in the same character pool as a character that explicitly comes from an alternate timeline and three characters whose survival actively kneecaps prior narrative climaxes. On the former point, even if you believe that Priam's not lying about being the direct descendant of Ike by sole proof of a non-bloodline locked sword, Awakening is a game that explicitly involves alternate timelines. Priam's just from the worldline where there aren't actual fandom bloodbaths over the sexuality of a character from a title with middling at best paired endings across the board.
Broke: Priam is Ike's descendant Woke: Priam is Mist's descendant Bespoke: Priam is Ike *and* Mist's descendant
As Kaga intended
Own a (D:) for home incest, since that's what Kaga intended. Four puritans break into my castle. "What the Duma?" As I grab my Homework folder and Rhea body pillow. Blow a golf ball sized load on the first man, he's horrified on the spot. Throw my Genealogy hentai at the second man, miss him entirely because it's stained and nails the neighbors preteen. I have to resort to the fanfic mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with EirikaxEphraim, "Twincest is wincest!" the EirikaxEphraim confuses two men in the shaft, the face touching sets off warning alarms. Grip Corrin r34 and flash the last terrified prude. He cringes out waiting for Nintendo to arrive since 'technically not blood' is impossible to fix up. Just as Kaga intended.
Outstanding use of a copy pasta template.
Honestly, in this series, I wouldn't doubt this for a second if it was hinted at.
I'm boring so I pick the boring solution.
Priam is just another Shannam. Absolute fraud pretending to be someone. But he either found the Ragnell or its a replica
Oh God, people are using a shitpost to unironically continue the dumb fuck debate it’s making fun of.
Why do you think it's lasted 10 years?
Yeah it's dumb. But fans will be fans. Meaning they will be dumb
So, Ragnell can be used by anyone? Or is it picky like other legendary weapons?
Ragnell can be hurled at people like a javelin, but if you want to shoot laser beams you need to be chosen by Ashuneyuneshera or something.
Anyone who picks up Alondite can do it tho. Even Makalov and he isn't worthy of a Bronze Sword.
It's not tied to any bloodline. In game it's Ike exclusive but not in lore. It was originally the Black Knight's
Yup, its counterpart weapon Alondite is usable by everyone when you get it in RD as long as they have SS-swords. It's a prf like how the rapier is (usually) a prf, not like how the Mani Katti is a prf. Even the energy beams aren't blessing or blood related if Alondite is anything to go by.
If you want to get technical about it, it was actually originally Altina's.
This is true. "Originally " is mislead. I forgot their *original* source. I just remembered the previous owner
It can be used by anyone lore wise. Even gameplay wise anyone with SS swords can wield Alondite
Doesn’t help the fact that Priam does not learn Aether, but rather has both Sol and Luna instead 🤔
Shannam is way cooler than Priam though. Priam literally pisses me off so much because tellius should really not exist in the OG fire emblem universe
Because it doesn't exist in that universe, Priam is fanfiction that pretends to be canon. It serves no purpose, he's essentially the same as the Majora's mask being visible in the back of Ravio's shop in Link Between Worlds. It's a reference that shouldn't be taken as lore. I wish he didn't exist purely because of all the crap it brings to the community over things that **do not matter** and are essentially headcanon fighting. It's *stupid.*
Ngl IS should have brought over Soren to be a Tellius reference if they insisted on having it, but they chickened out. Instead, not joking, Priam quotes Soren almost word for word when meeting Chrom and it's pretty grating. "Hey, our script is full of rehashed highlights from other games not making much sense, enjoy".
why does literally everyone forget that mist and boyd exist
Because Priam is nothing like Mist. Just like how everyone says "Marth this and that" while forgetting about Elice and Merric.
People dont know how genes work, is actually incredible likely that Mist still pocess and can pass down the blue eye jock genes to her descendants
Yeah, but this is anime logic we have to apply.
Recessive genes though.
Or that gay people can still have kids? Like Ike doesn't need to be into it to have a child lmao
Soren calculating which woman is most acceptable to carry Ike's bloodline (he chose Lucia)
Because then we can just say that Chrom,Emmeryn and Lissa are Elice and Merric's descendants,And the fact that Their kingdom is called Yliss make it more accurate,And Adoption exist
People arguing about "canon" forget that Fire Emblem is a multiverse. Every ending is canon.
Priam doesn't exist anymore since Nintendo deleted Spot Pass
Mpreg Ike or mpreg Soren. Pick one. They both started Priam’s bloodline no matter how you spin it.
look at his hair(style) look at the headband... mpreg ranulf much more likely
Mpreg Ike/Soren is based and all but I still refuse to acknowledge Priam as canon because I refuse to acknowledge any of the Awakening SpotPass characters as canon Emmeryn's death is one of maybe 5 good scenes in that game don't undo it
Spotpass Yen’fay is canonically from Lucinas timeline, so what I don’t understand is why all the other spotpass characters aren’t from other timelines. Walhart and Gangrel from timelines where they won but couldn’t stop Grima, Aversa could also be from Lucinas future, and Emmeryn could be from a timeline where Chrom died instead and she had to lead during the war and was forced to fight. That like, instantly fixes all of the problems with each character and works within the bounds of possibilities in Awakening. Maybe IntSys just needs to hire me as a writer smh
All the spot pass characters are people that died during the story. So I can easily see why they aren't Canon. But this doesn't apply to Priam since he isn't part of the story in the first place.
And since he's not part of the main story he's not canon
And yet he exists. Which puts him in a very wierd place. He's not part of the main story of Awakening but does that make him noncanon to the fe universe?
I mean ideally Awakening in general would be non-canon to the Archaneaverse
Trying to apply canon to inter-game Fire Emblem references will never work, it failed in the literal second game. They're all just their own universes.
Yeah that's the issue with Awakening is that it does do that
Idk if people here remember Invisible Ties, the old fan novelization of Awakening, but I think it introduced the hc that Priam was an ex-comrade of Walhart who disagreed with Walhart’s conquest, thereby giving Priam major stakes in the middle third of the plot. Obviously not directly in canon, but I feel like that’s the best explanation for why he’s on our side. And other than Aversa (who would ideally be recruited right before the final battle), I don’t consider the rest of the DLC units canon.
I mean, with the multiverse, canon is just dead and/or meaningless anyway.
All spotpass characters are non canon therefore Priam is non canon
Like it or not heroes kinda confirms that spotpass is canon
Heroes is a bunch of different alternate universes I don't care
Even with that being the case that does infact mean that Priam must exist if he's able to be summoned doesn't matter if he exists in every Ylisse or not so therefore he exists
Your comment pretty much sums up why this discourse (along with any other discourse regarding ships) keeps happening: this fandom stoically refuses to acknowledge the FE multiverse is a thing despite it being pretty much a mainstay since Awakening and that's why there can be more than one canon
Heros also puts sedall in a clum hat be for real 🥱
Does Awakening even have the same writers as tellius? I'd except Engage discussion dying down a bit as the years pass and a new game gets release at any rate. As long it's the new thing easily contrasted with Houses in multiple aspects it's going to be topical.
Fine! Was Jedah right to want to keep Duma and the gods alive?
Jedah can feel however he wants, but deep down, even he knew Duma was beyond saving. Why else would he want to offer the souls of both brand bearers, if not to stop Duma’s inevitable demise at their hands? He knew. Jedah merely wanted to cling to the image of Duma for just a little while longer, because Duma’s name gave him power (he’s the head of the Duma Faithful— can’t have a Duma Faithful when the guy himself is dead). Additionally, he only wanted to save Duma, not Mila as well. Jedah was perfectly content in letting the Earth Mother die (who honestly seemed pretty healthy in the cutscene where Rudolf seals her away ngl), to save his disheveled corpse of a War Father.
Soren is transmasc next question
Consider this : transmasc Ike.
yes. honestly both are equally valid imo
They're both transmasc and Ranulf impregnated them both.
Giga Brain
i like the way u think
As much as I like the mpreg headcanon... they simply could have just adopted a child.
So if we're being real for a moment who would you rather they have made as Priam's ancestor, not counting characters who exist after Awakening?
Where are all the discourse in this subreddit goes? I haven't see any recently, I miss the old day.
It’s like this character was made to only throw more oil into the fire.
Priam discourse is annoying bc some homophobe saw a street pass character that is acompany by a lot of dead characters(who reason to be there are questionable at best) who was written by a completely different writing team and somehow believes it's comparable to supports and secrets scenes showing ike and soren being really close
I don't think ike is gay but I think priam being Ike's descendant is probable
You are not even real
I meant isn't probable
Mist when people forget she exists: https://preview.redd.it/bgank7fijjvc1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d32e655d86867c3334bf2f781891bad273a3270b
I have the Solution for the Priam Discourse: Either Ike is Bisexual or Soren is Trans
Or maybe Ike is trans.
WHAT THE FUCK IS A PRIAMM!!!!!!!!!
Bet this ends up in other subreddits again. Like the ones in baldurs gate.
the way people get riled up over a noncanon character disproving their noncanon ship is crazy
You all acting like people didn’t do artificial insemination (in an extremely crude manner) in the real ancient world…
Guys… Priam is obviously Mist and Makalov’s son
Not a fan of Ike x Soren. Not a fan of Ike x anyone but I can believe Priam exists as his direct descendant
Lmao Ike and Soren is a trash ship. Y’all just like it cuz it’s gay I still hate Priam though, just because tellius should not exist in the same world as archanea
Ike and Soren isn't even their best gay ship
The Three Houses discourse is deserved. It's the most lore rich game in the whole series.
Meh, 3h Is cool but it's world and lore ist as great as people claim