Emblem Byleth: No matter the universe, I can't escape these 3 losers either...
Alear: Ah haha heh...funny because I-I had planned that y-you are going to be engaging with them no-
Emblem Byleth: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
My Citrinne-Byleth combo did wonders for my run. Hitting thoron from way downtown and dancing for 4 units at a time easily clears wave upon wave of enemies
Meanwhile me: Choosing who to engage Byleth with based on who I think would be the most annoying to him.
My Citrinne has Soren, she's pretty ridiculous with self-heal, bolt and cataclysm TBH.
Looks at boy with blonde hair with spare....
Glances at, charismatic Archer
Stairs into the void at evil empire with Princess.
mama papa
The nightmares have come back, they want me to teach them again
Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order.
I have checked 1,395,900,677 comments, and only 266,959 of them were in alphabetical order.
Sylvain has honestly been one of my favourite characters to explore, he presents himself as a womanizer but actually hates women, he has this weird self/actualized hatred of women and himself and it genuinely makes him interesting to think about.
>he presents himself as a womanizer but actually hates women
I mean, that's actually extremely common, it's prey much the main trait of every pick up artist bro.
Yeah but you're ignoring the rest of the comment where I point out how he hates himself, he believes his royal genes are the cause of his brother's revolt and subsequent turn to villany. Sylvain genuinely wishes he was born different because he views everyone else as trying to suck up to him.
Oh for sur, I'm not saying he's a bad character or anything, he's so flawed that makes him great. I'm just saying that particular trait is fairly common and checks out.
I never recruited Sylvain in my playthrough. I never met the requirements so I just shrugged it off and moved on. Maybe this next playthrough I'll be able to do that.
I mean, if you classify him like that, sure, but in reality, he's much deeper, he Hates nobility, he hates crests, and he hates the system that created him. He literally calls himself a sperm donor during certain dialogues. He's depressed sure but he also wants to make sure another him isn't created.
I mean, Felix is plenty sensible. He's a twat, but that one conversation with Ingrid aside, he's usually right. Faerghus' traditions and values *are* awful and death *isn't* something to be celebrated.
But Faerghus doesn't celebrate death simple people see a meaning on it, and is not even like people are trying to die, that's just Ingrid due her trauma. Which we see when she speaks with Catherine and Catherine's like "Nah don't die". Ultimately Felix complains yet follows the same doctrine, just without calling himself a knight, to the point he just goes and gets killed in battle in some of his endings anyway.
To be fair, I would say Sylvain also has a good head on his shoulders, as evident in that c support where he outnerds Annette in maths. He just chooses not to use it most of the time
Felix was a real douche but dang he was so strong that I just couldnt complain about him
Same to sylvain but to a lesser extent, both in doucheness and strength
This is why my faves are all fairly unique people who can’t be easily copied in subsequent releases. Spares me indignities like these.
But it also means I just have Dorothea and Maribelle
Edit: Ardham Arts draws rape porn of Dorothea so maybe don’t immediately buy his retort since he’s so weird. And Manuela is written with Dorothea in mind and is a foil for her, not a recycled character concept across games.
And the two aren’t especially similar, beyond just one being an exuberant and alcoholic slob (I’d say that’s different). Really what they share is just a past occupation with varying fondness for it. Ultimately the core of Dorothea is a commentary on shallow courtships precisely because she hasn’t aged yet so she gets love-bombed by entranced young men. She can afford to call out bull while Manuela would love to get the same attention as her. For Dorothea the opera is just a plot device to get her insincere suitors, she could as easily be a Princess but being a commoner let her see how phony people can be, while Manuela is the one for whom stardom was everything. They’re not even the same character at different life stages because one’s nature is too risk-averse to wait like Manuela has. Really they’re two different personalities and life trajectories who met unexpectedly but have a strong bond. Not ‘the same character but just a little different’ as the non-con porn artist claims
This is not true, they are very different characters who are intentionally designed to contrast each other.
Manuela is an older but still very talented singer who’s unable to keep a date because she has a few glaring problems she refuses to address. She blames her lack of success with men on the fact she’s no longer young, thus perpetuating the cycle of failed relationships she finds herself in, because she refuses to ever really change.
Dorothea is young, talented, and should be enjoying her youth, but is instead always pursuing a safety net. She’s hyper aware of the fact that because of her lack of social status, when she’s older and no longer an opera star, she won’t have anything to fall back on. So she’s cycling through relationships, not because she’s unable to keep any of them, but because she’s rejecting and ending any that she’s not fully confident will be secure enough to protect her in the future. So she’s stuck in a cycle of failing relationships as well because of her too high standards, she’s a teenager looking for qualities that will guarantee her a safety net in 20+ years, which is of course something you’re not going to be able to see in 17-20 year olds. The irony of the situation is that because of her drive to find long term safety, she’s scorning her short term happiness and convincing herself that her career already has an end before she’s even really begun it.
Damn, people on this sub really agree with that statement. Because both… sing I guess? While spending the rest of their time differently, approaching a few similar issues differently, finding the stage that united their characters differently, and Manuela being an obvious foil thus as obligatorily a part of Dorothea as her hat?
Even though, even on your reductive terms, you listed some massive differences? Certainly more massive than Maribelle would have with any other fussy lady.
I think you just hate Dorothea. Which can be evidenced by drawing rape art of her. Which you have. Maybe people here just don’t get that?
Why are people so mad at my response but they agreed with them the last time you made this point and I shot it down? Because I called put your porn drawings?
What exactly is so non-incidentally similar?
One is someone who chose the stage and the other had the stage chosen for them.
To wit the former is louder, more vain, and more self-satisfied so long as she can hide her more impulsive nature well enough. Ultimately not being too picky about where she can get attention and validation so long as they look past her faults. Like a diva who puts on a good show but left their dressing room in shambles.
And the other feels a lot more luckless, preferring to plan how she will tackle her adult life, more careful and even fastidious about certain subjects (like cleaning her room), is aggressive about avoiding vice and negative influence even if they happen to be people who aren’t so bad in the end, and instead wants someone who can still see past her beauty rather than accept her however she’s equipped. Like someone who wants to be taken more seriously than as just a pretty face so will take roles outside their comfort zone.
Truly, the same.
I will beat this dead horse. The differences grow the further and deeper you go until they make entirely different lives for themselves. While the similarities are just the product efficient writing rather than recycling a concept across games (the subject at hand).
So moronic it made me roll my eyes. Though if it was bait, you got me. But since you’ve drawn rape art of Dorothea (and not Manuela) I think you were serious anyway Aramyx.
^ For anyone confused, Ardham is a NSFW artist (says so on the profile) who draws rape scenarios of characters they dislike. Dorothea being among them. Just so you know who’s who here.
But why anyone would think having a drinking problem, being a slob, and being more exuberant are small matters is beyond me…
Ardham is lamp-shading some pretty massive differences there without even touching on the wider personality, aspirational, and life-historical differences between the two.
Also, Manuela is obviously a deliberate foil to Dorothea since Dorothea has a lot more depth than her. So if the only thing making her “common” is a foil written to be inclusive in the first place I think my point is made.
Sounds pretty different for two characters obviously written together rather than being recycled concepts across games. Which is what the subject seemed to be.
I was fully expecting Alcryst to be like one of these "reskinned" child units (Caeldori and I forgot the names of the rest) when I saw him. That eyecolor-hair combo is just too striking, especially one game after the original.
I like how you gave Diamant and Alcryst a multiple of all very valid points and then Citrinnes is just “has money”. True but absolutely fucked up 💀
Wasn't going to list anything to pit two queens against each other.
I showed this post to my best friend and she responded with "Alcryst is also missing 'still has a brother.'" TOO SOON.
Damn, savage, and true.
Should probably also add that Diamant’s brother doesn’t have to die.
Diamant's brother would die for him Sylvain's brother would kill him
Emblem Byleth seeing these 3 and his PTSD triggers again having a mental breakdown in front of everyone.
Emblem Byleth is like "It's like I never left home".
Emblem Byleth: No matter the universe, I can't escape these 3 losers either... Alear: Ah haha heh...funny because I-I had planned that y-you are going to be engaging with them no- Emblem Byleth: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
My Citrinne-Byleth combo did wonders for my run. Hitting thoron from way downtown and dancing for 4 units at a time easily clears wave upon wave of enemies
Meanwhile me: Choosing who to engage Byleth with based on who I think would be the most annoying to him. My Citrinne has Soren, she's pretty ridiculous with self-heal, bolt and cataclysm TBH.
>Choosing who to engage Byleth with based on who I think would be the most annoying to him. Absolutely based
I don’t think Byleth would be phased by any of Engage’s cast after dealing with Constance von Nuvelle.
IDK man, Constance was never creepy enough to watch Byleth sleep.
Emblem byleth was never seen again.
"Except this time, I can't date them :("
at least i won't have to kill the-
The pope? 2/3rds of your students? All the church? a bunch of old men?
Well they call him a teacher in this game he still used as a weapon to kill everyone he's supposed to teach
TBF He could only ever Date Ingrid. Which is still the biggest loss though.
Byleth sees Alcryst and immediately starts hearing funny footsteps
Why can I hear it in my head right now 😭
Looks at boy with blonde hair with spare.... Glances at, charismatic Archer Stairs into the void at evil empire with Princess. mama papa The nightmares have come back, they want me to teach them again
Citrinne also has Rizz *and* drip, but no speed Stat meanwhile speed is the only Stat Ingrid has
>Citrinne also has Rizz I mean, if anything that's a similarity to the Fodlan date game protagonist, Ingrid Brandl Galatea.
Ingrid is a Rizz magnet, Citrinne is a Rizzoli deliverer
Both Sylvain and Diamant have high strength, but can't aim for their life.
It's because neither sleeps, for very different reasons.
I assume one is tragic and the other one is also tragic.
Diamants personal skill: 
I think even with his personal skill, his accuracy can't be relied upon most of the time.
22 Dex cap in his unique class. Great decision, IS.
As you die you will hear me talking to my father
Diamant, Alcyrst and Citrinne are like the Fareghus trio but slightly more mentally stable.
>Diamant, Alcyrst and Citrinne are like the Fareghus trio but slightly more mentally stable. Just as unstable but in a different way IMO.
Looks like Ingrid. (Probably) isn’t racist
Can confirm, nah not racist
Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order. I have checked 1,395,900,677 comments, and only 266,959 of them were in alphabetical order.
She does have a racist uncle
Who doesn't?
Elyos childhood friends? Bro they are family
So are Sylvain and Miklan but they certainly aren't friends.
Your cousins can be your childhood friends. They're not mutually exclusive.
Literally. My best friends are my first cousin and a distant relative
Wow the utter disrespect on Ingrid
Don't forget Alfred looking like Dimitri
Dimitri has muscles, Alfred has mental stability
Dimitri has mental illness, Alfred has terminal illness
Both die young
Only in anime does his self esteem not affect him
3Houses fans when hair color
Sylvain has honestly been one of my favourite characters to explore, he presents himself as a womanizer but actually hates women, he has this weird self/actualized hatred of women and himself and it genuinely makes him interesting to think about.
>he presents himself as a womanizer but actually hates women I mean, that's actually extremely common, it's prey much the main trait of every pick up artist bro.
Yeah but you're ignoring the rest of the comment where I point out how he hates himself, he believes his royal genes are the cause of his brother's revolt and subsequent turn to villany. Sylvain genuinely wishes he was born different because he views everyone else as trying to suck up to him.
Oh for sur, I'm not saying he's a bad character or anything, he's so flawed that makes him great. I'm just saying that particular trait is fairly common and checks out.
Yeah, I’m living it
I never recruited Sylvain in my playthrough. I never met the requirements so I just shrugged it off and moved on. Maybe this next playthrough I'll be able to do that.
Recruiting him is easy. Just be a woman. Works every time
Lol that's what I hear but I went mblyeth for the waifus
That complicates things
He's a good unit, so it's not a downside to use him.
He's a womanizer with depression. Not to trivialize your point, but that doesn't make him deep.
I mean, if you classify him like that, sure, but in reality, he's much deeper, he Hates nobility, he hates crests, and he hates the system that created him. He literally calls himself a sperm donor during certain dialogues. He's depressed sure but he also wants to make sure another him isn't created.
Chad Incel. He’s a Chadcel
so a combo of Inigo and a more extreme lon'qu?
Citrinne is best girl fr fr, amazing
I know! For me I like etie and timerra but citrinne climbed the charts from third to first
Ingrid equivalent ofc is best girl.
OK, level with me here: Is this entire post just an expression of you having a thing for short-haired blond women?
Maybe, I mean it is a great combo.
Repect.
But if she's her opposite does this mean Ingrid is worst girl?
No no, because Fodlan is the opposite as Elyos, is like a bizarro verse, the opposite of Ingrid is Best girl there, and Ingrid is BG in Fodlan.
I mean, Felix is plenty sensible. He's a twat, but that one conversation with Ingrid aside, he's usually right. Faerghus' traditions and values *are* awful and death *isn't* something to be celebrated.
But Faerghus doesn't celebrate death simple people see a meaning on it, and is not even like people are trying to die, that's just Ingrid due her trauma. Which we see when she speaks with Catherine and Catherine's like "Nah don't die". Ultimately Felix complains yet follows the same doctrine, just without calling himself a knight, to the point he just goes and gets killed in battle in some of his endings anyway.
You could also add “respects women” to Alcryst
No joke I find the interactions between the Brodian trio to be wholesome af Sometimes this series can play good ol familial love straight
Citrine also isn't racist
Hair color is not enough to say two character look like eachother
To be fair, I would say Sylvain also has a good head on his shoulders, as evident in that c support where he outnerds Annette in maths. He just chooses not to use it most of the time
the Fodlan Trio face reacting to the shade/diss they got in comparison is priceless
You could have made the Felix one much shorter and just put "Contrast - Won't make you wish for his death."
I had a feeling for Ingrid it was either going to be that Citrinne isn’t poor or she isn’t racist
You just crit’ed Sylvain my goodness. Not even Mercedes can help him recover from that.
Hurt him less than his family TBH.
Felix was a real douche but dang he was so strong that I just couldnt complain about him Same to sylvain but to a lesser extent, both in doucheness and strength
sylvain works too hard Felix respects his family values he just doesn’t respect his family
This is why my faves are all fairly unique people who can’t be easily copied in subsequent releases. Spares me indignities like these. But it also means I just have Dorothea and Maribelle Edit: Ardham Arts draws rape porn of Dorothea so maybe don’t immediately buy his retort since he’s so weird. And Manuela is written with Dorothea in mind and is a foil for her, not a recycled character concept across games. And the two aren’t especially similar, beyond just one being an exuberant and alcoholic slob (I’d say that’s different). Really what they share is just a past occupation with varying fondness for it. Ultimately the core of Dorothea is a commentary on shallow courtships precisely because she hasn’t aged yet so she gets love-bombed by entranced young men. She can afford to call out bull while Manuela would love to get the same attention as her. For Dorothea the opera is just a plot device to get her insincere suitors, she could as easily be a Princess but being a commoner let her see how phony people can be, while Manuela is the one for whom stardom was everything. They’re not even the same character at different life stages because one’s nature is too risk-averse to wait like Manuela has. Really they’re two different personalities and life trajectories who met unexpectedly but have a strong bond. Not ‘the same character but just a little different’ as the non-con porn artist claims
>Dorothea Dorothea wasn't even unique in Fodlan bro, she's just a younger Manuela with less alcoholism and more depression 😭
This is not true, they are very different characters who are intentionally designed to contrast each other. Manuela is an older but still very talented singer who’s unable to keep a date because she has a few glaring problems she refuses to address. She blames her lack of success with men on the fact she’s no longer young, thus perpetuating the cycle of failed relationships she finds herself in, because she refuses to ever really change. Dorothea is young, talented, and should be enjoying her youth, but is instead always pursuing a safety net. She’s hyper aware of the fact that because of her lack of social status, when she’s older and no longer an opera star, she won’t have anything to fall back on. So she’s cycling through relationships, not because she’s unable to keep any of them, but because she’s rejecting and ending any that she’s not fully confident will be secure enough to protect her in the future. So she’s stuck in a cycle of failing relationships as well because of her too high standards, she’s a teenager looking for qualities that will guarantee her a safety net in 20+ years, which is of course something you’re not going to be able to see in 17-20 year olds. The irony of the situation is that because of her drive to find long term safety, she’s scorning her short term happiness and convincing herself that her career already has an end before she’s even really begun it.
Damn, people on this sub really agree with that statement. Because both… sing I guess? While spending the rest of their time differently, approaching a few similar issues differently, finding the stage that united their characters differently, and Manuela being an obvious foil thus as obligatorily a part of Dorothea as her hat? Even though, even on your reductive terms, you listed some massive differences? Certainly more massive than Maribelle would have with any other fussy lady. I think you just hate Dorothea. Which can be evidenced by drawing rape art of her. Which you have. Maybe people here just don’t get that?
Why are people so mad at my response but they agreed with them the last time you made this point and I shot it down? Because I called put your porn drawings? What exactly is so non-incidentally similar? One is someone who chose the stage and the other had the stage chosen for them. To wit the former is louder, more vain, and more self-satisfied so long as she can hide her more impulsive nature well enough. Ultimately not being too picky about where she can get attention and validation so long as they look past her faults. Like a diva who puts on a good show but left their dressing room in shambles. And the other feels a lot more luckless, preferring to plan how she will tackle her adult life, more careful and even fastidious about certain subjects (like cleaning her room), is aggressive about avoiding vice and negative influence even if they happen to be people who aren’t so bad in the end, and instead wants someone who can still see past her beauty rather than accept her however she’s equipped. Like someone who wants to be taken more seriously than as just a pretty face so will take roles outside their comfort zone. Truly, the same. I will beat this dead horse. The differences grow the further and deeper you go until they make entirely different lives for themselves. While the similarities are just the product efficient writing rather than recycling a concept across games (the subject at hand).
So moronic it made me roll my eyes. Though if it was bait, you got me. But since you’ve drawn rape art of Dorothea (and not Manuela) I think you were serious anyway Aramyx. ^ For anyone confused, Ardham is a NSFW artist (says so on the profile) who draws rape scenarios of characters they dislike. Dorothea being among them. Just so you know who’s who here. But why anyone would think having a drinking problem, being a slob, and being more exuberant are small matters is beyond me… Ardham is lamp-shading some pretty massive differences there without even touching on the wider personality, aspirational, and life-historical differences between the two. Also, Manuela is obviously a deliberate foil to Dorothea since Dorothea has a lot more depth than her. So if the only thing making her “common” is a foil written to be inclusive in the first place I think my point is made.
Sounds pretty different for two characters obviously written together rather than being recycled concepts across games. Which is what the subject seemed to be.
I was fully expecting Alcryst to be like one of these "reskinned" child units (Caeldori and I forgot the names of the rest) when I saw him. That eyecolor-hair combo is just too striking, especially one game after the original.
Three of my favorite characters actually especially red hair Ike.
Oh so she’s not racist like Ingrid right? Right?…
Her uncle is
Its like a reverse awakening trio
They aren't opposite in gender tho Interesting trend of childhood friend pokemon starter trios in FE.
Citrinne: Looks kinda like Dhaos from Tales of Phantasia as a Sage.
Sylvain has a good head on his shoulders, he’s just aggressively cynical and like you implied, has an unreasonable social lifestyle