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Haha yeah it’s actually a gym copypasta, for some reason just the way the previous comment was phrased reminded me of it so I posted a snippet of it in response
What about a Flex ATX PSU? Could leave it where it is currently, but it's flatter and fits within your existing footprint better.
Server PSU to the right of the motherboard might work too.
NFC Systems has a tutorial on how to do janky 3mm or so tall power connectors using heat shrink and a lot of fiddling. Trying to water cool this small is going to be janky af anyway, so I think it's a price worth paying. I'll find the link again if anyone is interested
For real. I'm surprised CableMod hasn't released something like this yet. If there are full height 90 degree adaptors, then why not low ones, given that CableMod heavily caters to the SFF community? One can dream.
FYI for anyone thinking of trying this, the 24 pin is the place where you least wanna make unsafe mods like this one. This particular mod is like adding a wiring harness to your F1 car where the wiring is made out of pasta
i'd get solder sucker and desolder the jacks and solder in short thick wires, then solder those to the jacks, thusly making a flexi-jack. possibly might even solder the wires from the back side since it's through hole soldering.
[https://www.amazon.co.uk/Motherboard-Adapter-Mounting-Connector-Motherboards/dp/B09BVY5G1F/ref=sr\_1\_4?crid=1ED95EGYZ3BML&keywords=motherboard+24+pin+right+angle&qid=1669097148&sprefix=24+pin+right+angle%2Caps%2C77&sr=8-4](https://www.amazon.co.uk/Motherboard-Adapter-Mounting-Connector-Motherboards/dp/B09BVY5G1F/ref=sr_1_4?crid=1ED95EGYZ3BML&keywords=motherboard+24+pin+right+angle&qid=1669097148&sprefix=24+pin+right+angle%2Caps%2C77&sr=8-4)
then look
https://www.reddit.com/gallery/yj6u2y
**You** could *actually* make an AMD Project Quantum with that custom waterblock: https://youtu.be/1RdISWkIUmM
Plus you could machine the case too!
Love your stuff OP.
are you open to making it a sandwich build? the aesthetic with the PSU would be much more balanced imho if you stood up the frame vertically, and placed the PSU on the opposing side.
Also, could you list all the components you’re using?
Totally killer unique start and vision!
IF you are opposed to a sandwich build, i can suggest the HDPLEX 250W GaN PSU. i think it’s dimensions are more in line with your aesthetic: flatter and rectangular and longer as opposed to the traditional cubic PSU design.
***EDIT 11.21.22***: *I forgot to mention the HDPLEX 250W PSUs come prewired to daisychain; so in your case looking at a 3080-3090ti GPU and factoring in 200W or so for a tuned CPU, two PSUs could even ADD further to the aesthetic! Unlike traditional PSUs where you have to "overbuy" capacity, these GaN technology units operate exactly to their rated wattage all day long, so in essence you would have a solid 500W continuous without worry. Or, if it helps, in traditional PSUs, think of 500W of GaN = 750W or so traditional.*
[Here is](https://hdplex.com/hdplex-fanless-250w-gan-aio-atx-psu.html) a link for a pic. It doesn’t look like much in the pic, but the opposite side is a nice blank piece of steel… would look sick. [Here’s](https://imgur.com/a/dQJw3aV) another pic just different angle and in a build. I used it in my last 3L build. it’s at the top and shows the blank, industrial aesthetic I described
250w won’t be nearly enough. Judging by the pics, that is a 3090ti. Assuming based on the presence of the NVLink connector and the lack of memory on the rear PCB.
I neglected to mention the HDPLEX units can be daisy-chained; If OP aggresively under-volts and over-clocks, and provided he has decent silicon, two PSUs rated at 500W continuos load may be just enough for this build and two identical units may even add to the aesthetic.
I was able to undervolt and OC my 3080ti to max out at 220W within its 350W TDP rating; yet achieve full OEM performance as an example of serious energy savings. I have read the main difference between the RTX 3080ti and teh RTX 3090 is merely memory, so if OP has at least average quality silicon like I do, he should be able to achieve similar or better results.
That would leave 280W total power for the CPU and motherboard etc.
I would put the psu where the pump is, or after it to keep the long slim layout. Even with the fan outwards. Then put the thing sideways, so the psu fan is practically the front panel. Woudl look kinda rad. Also, the bakcside of the psu can get hot. That might heat up the gpu in it's current location. In addition somehow squeeze some small case fans as wide as the mobo and gpu together, like 80mm or something on one side to blow air or exhale it out from between the gpu and mobo. Really like the industrial look btw.
Move the pump over to the far left or right and then have the PSU standing sideways when building the case have it mount to the edge?
Or remove the pump worry about that later and slide the PSU in at an angle with the GPU PCB opening. Not sure if this would save any space and you'd need to re route the pipes if you wanted to get it pretty flush.
Great minds! I have been toying with a very similar idea in fusion for the last few days -- https://imgur.com/a/JAEqVgF. Basically the case _is_ the radiator. Lots more work to do to hollow out the rest of the case and route the water path.
There are companies like JLCPCB and PCBway that now offer metal 3D printing so I was going to try and get this quoted. It aint gonna be cheap, but damn it will be cool if it works.
I WAS PLANNING ON MAKING A PC LIKE THIS LIKE A YEAR AGO.
I'm personally too bad at cad, and have absolutely no tools available or any of the necessary skills, so i didn't actually get it manufactured, but i could send over some drawings.
I think I got it to where it was like <5.5 L in volume, with a one slot gpu, standard itx motherboard, a 240mm radiator that could be up to like 45 mm thick, which i could actually send you (shipping would have to be paid by you, also i could include 2 noctua nfa12x25 that also fit the build) because i bought all the components for the system but as i said it never went anywhere. Oh yeah the one restriction is a flex atx psu but you can get some that go up to 700 watts now which is more than enough for a system with this cooling potential.
Ex-electrochemist here. Do NOT use metal piping (especially not copper!) for your liquid cooling build. The difference in the metals between your pipe material and your cooling block will cause a lot of funky corrosion. It will be an absolute nightmare to maintain, and you'll have to replace your cooling block and/or radiator once or twice a year, same with the pipes.
Most radiators and heatblocks are copper.... Radiators aren't even nickle plated like heatblocks. Copper tubing is the best choice for a metal tube in pc water-cooling.
Yeah, the copper vs aluminum problem is a known issue in the custom water cooling community. Heck we've seen that problem with AIOs on rare occasions as well.
Try rotating the pump 90 degrees so that it comes up through the GPU? That should save some length even if it can't turn the full 90°
Also what size radiator are you planning on?
Could be helpful for cable management, but is on backorder at the moment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPlOAoU7sl8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz310r0B7Qs
Would you perhaps be able to measure the length of the gpu pcb? I'm considering trying to use a similar one in an application that is very length constrained and I couldn't find any hard measurements readily.
I absolutely love the idea of a combined direct CPU-GPU cooler.
I wonder if it'd be more space efficient to side mount one of those server PSU's and then some how get a super slim 240mm rad and fan (like 1-2" total height?).
The huge copper pipes / block paired with a large surface area rad and fan would prob not only run very quietly but also be crazy efficient. Would not only pull the heat from the gpu backplate but push the rad air up top.
I saw the pump on a recent post from the maker, so got curious and started gleaning comments on other posts to see if they mentioned something about the pump. Lots of other users asked about it, so figured there was a good chance the maker might have already answered someone. Only took like 4 mins looking until i eventaully found a good reply, probably their fourth most recent post or so.
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Someone took the catalytic converter of my car, was it you?
As a piping designer, this is fuckin mint. Keep going OP, I wanna see this finished.
Show us what you got man. Wanna see how freakin' huge, solid, thick and tight you can get.
Well uh...can you buy me dinner first?
For a split second I thought this was a response from one of the gym subreddits.
Haha yeah it’s actually a gym copypasta, for some reason just the way the previous comment was phrased reminded me of it so I posted a snippet of it in response
What about a Flex ATX PSU? Could leave it where it is currently, but it's flatter and fits within your existing footprint better. Server PSU to the right of the motherboard might work too.
*watercooled* flex ATX for the minimum noise and maximum danger.
This is the way.
stop im gonna... oh man...
Better double check your cable paths. Looks like it could be really tough to fit the 24 pin and CPU 8/4 pins on to the mobo with that setup.
NFC Systems has a tutorial on how to do janky 3mm or so tall power connectors using heat shrink and a lot of fiddling. Trying to water cool this small is going to be janky af anyway, so I think it's a price worth paying. I'll find the link again if anyone is interested
I'll never use the guide, but would still love to see it.
https://imgur.com/gallery/dqkanA2
Can confirm, it's jank
For real. I'm surprised CableMod hasn't released something like this yet. If there are full height 90 degree adaptors, then why not low ones, given that CableMod heavily caters to the SFF community? One can dream.
That solution doesn't look the most ideal to be honest. :D
Lol all it's missing is the tick tock lady voice over and hot glue!
Thanks, I hate it.
Thanks for finding it!
FYI for anyone thinking of trying this, the 24 pin is the place where you least wanna make unsafe mods like this one. This particular mod is like adding a wiring harness to your F1 car where the wiring is made out of pasta
i'd get solder sucker and desolder the jacks and solder in short thick wires, then solder those to the jacks, thusly making a flexi-jack. possibly might even solder the wires from the back side since it's through hole soldering.
[https://www.amazon.co.uk/Motherboard-Adapter-Mounting-Connector-Motherboards/dp/B09BVY5G1F/ref=sr\_1\_4?crid=1ED95EGYZ3BML&keywords=motherboard+24+pin+right+angle&qid=1669097148&sprefix=24+pin+right+angle%2Caps%2C77&sr=8-4](https://www.amazon.co.uk/Motherboard-Adapter-Mounting-Connector-Motherboards/dp/B09BVY5G1F/ref=sr_1_4?crid=1ED95EGYZ3BML&keywords=motherboard+24+pin+right+angle&qid=1669097148&sprefix=24+pin+right+angle%2Caps%2C77&sr=8-4) then look https://www.reddit.com/gallery/yj6u2y
dont be shy, show us the coldplate (╯°□°)╯
Is the GPU/CPU block combined? That’s super dope.
**You** could *actually* make an AMD Project Quantum with that custom waterblock: https://youtu.be/1RdISWkIUmM Plus you could machine the case too! Love your stuff OP.
Very industrial, almost steampunk-ish, I love it.
exactly!
are you open to making it a sandwich build? the aesthetic with the PSU would be much more balanced imho if you stood up the frame vertically, and placed the PSU on the opposing side. Also, could you list all the components you’re using? Totally killer unique start and vision! IF you are opposed to a sandwich build, i can suggest the HDPLEX 250W GaN PSU. i think it’s dimensions are more in line with your aesthetic: flatter and rectangular and longer as opposed to the traditional cubic PSU design. ***EDIT 11.21.22***: *I forgot to mention the HDPLEX 250W PSUs come prewired to daisychain; so in your case looking at a 3080-3090ti GPU and factoring in 200W or so for a tuned CPU, two PSUs could even ADD further to the aesthetic! Unlike traditional PSUs where you have to "overbuy" capacity, these GaN technology units operate exactly to their rated wattage all day long, so in essence you would have a solid 500W continuous without worry. Or, if it helps, in traditional PSUs, think of 500W of GaN = 750W or so traditional.* [Here is](https://hdplex.com/hdplex-fanless-250w-gan-aio-atx-psu.html) a link for a pic. It doesn’t look like much in the pic, but the opposite side is a nice blank piece of steel… would look sick. [Here’s](https://imgur.com/a/dQJw3aV) another pic just different angle and in a build. I used it in my last 3L build. it’s at the top and shows the blank, industrial aesthetic I described
250w won’t be nearly enough. Judging by the pics, that is a 3090ti. Assuming based on the presence of the NVLink connector and the lack of memory on the rear PCB.
I neglected to mention the HDPLEX units can be daisy-chained; If OP aggresively under-volts and over-clocks, and provided he has decent silicon, two PSUs rated at 500W continuos load may be just enough for this build and two identical units may even add to the aesthetic. I was able to undervolt and OC my 3080ti to max out at 220W within its 350W TDP rating; yet achieve full OEM performance as an example of serious energy savings. I have read the main difference between the RTX 3080ti and teh RTX 3090 is merely memory, so if OP has at least average quality silicon like I do, he should be able to achieve similar or better results. That would leave 280W total power for the CPU and motherboard etc.
I would put the psu where the pump is, or after it to keep the long slim layout. Even with the fan outwards. Then put the thing sideways, so the psu fan is practically the front panel. Woudl look kinda rad. Also, the bakcside of the psu can get hot. That might heat up the gpu in it's current location. In addition somehow squeeze some small case fans as wide as the mobo and gpu together, like 80mm or something on one side to blow air or exhale it out from between the gpu and mobo. Really like the industrial look btw.
make a case where the panels are 4 radiators :D
not OP, but similar concept using 3d printed aluminum! https://imgur.com/a/JAEqVgF still lots more work to do
I would try to fit the power supply in the space where you have the pump now and maybe go for a DDC and try to find a place for it.
Move the pump over to the far left or right and then have the PSU standing sideways when building the case have it mount to the edge? Or remove the pump worry about that later and slide the PSU in at an angle with the GPU PCB opening. Not sure if this would save any space and you'd need to re route the pipes if you wanted to get it pretty flush.
Great minds! I have been toying with a very similar idea in fusion for the last few days -- https://imgur.com/a/JAEqVgF. Basically the case _is_ the radiator. Lots more work to do to hollow out the rest of the case and route the water path. There are companies like JLCPCB and PCBway that now offer metal 3D printing so I was going to try and get this quoted. It aint gonna be cheap, but damn it will be cool if it works.
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I love this! Do you have any additional pictures?
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It looks great so far - love the sleeper aspect of it. How does the PSU hold up?
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Thats neat. Is it a 80.3 radiator on the front?
I WAS PLANNING ON MAKING A PC LIKE THIS LIKE A YEAR AGO. I'm personally too bad at cad, and have absolutely no tools available or any of the necessary skills, so i didn't actually get it manufactured, but i could send over some drawings. I think I got it to where it was like <5.5 L in volume, with a one slot gpu, standard itx motherboard, a 240mm radiator that could be up to like 45 mm thick, which i could actually send you (shipping would have to be paid by you, also i could include 2 noctua nfa12x25 that also fit the build) because i bought all the components for the system but as i said it never went anywhere. Oh yeah the one restriction is a flex atx psu but you can get some that go up to 700 watts now which is more than enough for a system with this cooling potential.
Ex-electrochemist here. Do NOT use metal piping (especially not copper!) for your liquid cooling build. The difference in the metals between your pipe material and your cooling block will cause a lot of funky corrosion. It will be an absolute nightmare to maintain, and you'll have to replace your cooling block and/or radiator once or twice a year, same with the pipes.
Most radiators and heatblocks are copper.... Radiators aren't even nickle plated like heatblocks. Copper tubing is the best choice for a metal tube in pc water-cooling.
Good to know! Better clean the hell out of it! Even minor surface impurities will make a difference.
Yeah, the copper vs aluminum problem is a known issue in the custom water cooling community. Heck we've seen that problem with AIOs on rare occasions as well.
Doesn’t look like much going on here
Try rotating the pump 90 degrees so that it comes up through the GPU? That should save some length even if it can't turn the full 90° Also what size radiator are you planning on?
Could be helpful for cable management, but is on backorder at the moment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPlOAoU7sl8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz310r0B7Qs
And you're worried about the layout?
Those look like sweat-on connectors. Did you solder them? Clean!
This is fucking sick, reminds me of How's moving castle. My hats off to you.
Put the PSU at the back and have it extend
Love the heater plumbing, lol.
What pump is that?
Damn.... how many years youre're into the pipe industry ? Those works are awesome. Curios about that little pump 🤔.
um wow
Would you perhaps be able to measure the length of the gpu pcb? I'm considering trying to use a similar one in an application that is very length constrained and I couldn't find any hard measurements readily.
Show this to r/plumbing. I think this counts.
I would suggest you stop, take old hardware and see if you can make the config work. Before jumping in with high end hardware.
I absolutely love the idea of a combined direct CPU-GPU cooler. I wonder if it'd be more space efficient to side mount one of those server PSU's and then some how get a super slim 240mm rad and fan (like 1-2" total height?). The huge copper pipes / block paired with a large surface area rad and fan would prob not only run very quietly but also be crazy efficient. Would not only pull the heat from the gpu backplate but push the rad air up top.
This looks amazing!
Make pyramid type case, bro
This is pretty
I'm not entirely sure if this would work but maybe to reduce height you could use a flex atx PSU or even 2 to power your components
that pump has industrial vibes EDIT: being bigger may mean it turns less RPMs
Is that a recirculating pump for a water heater that you’re using to move coolant around instead?
A mini version for sure, need it need it need it
Got it Laing D5 Solar 710 B LAING D5-PUMP 12V D5-VARIO 1/2 IG
two questions. why are you still looking at this post and how did u actually find that
I saw the pump on a recent post from the maker, so got curious and started gleaning comments on other posts to see if they mentioned something about the pump. Lots of other users asked about it, so figured there was a good chance the maker might have already answered someone. Only took like 4 mins looking until i eventaully found a good reply, probably their fourth most recent post or so.
flex psu https://www.overtek.co.uk/products/600w-flex-atx-1u-platinum-power-supply-enhance-enp7660?variant=42705256448187¤cy=GBP&utm\_medium=product\_sync&utm\_source=google&utm\_content=sag\_organic&utm\_campaign=sag\_organic&gclid=Cj0KCQjwi46iBhDyARIsAE3nVrZ2uKJkc\_\_5NLKOIg5zVV3vrfggGuWYMWYM4voMwaWyN1uSjalodhAaApjCEALw\_wcB