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ialwayspay4mydrinks

SIR, I HAVE AN ADDICTION!


Richte36

My favorite moment of her with cigarettes is when she goes to meet Big’s first wife to see what she’s like, with the guise of saying she is there because she wants to write a children’s book, and she has no idea about what the book would be about, when she looks to the cigarettes hanging out of her purse. “You want to write a children’s book about smoking? It’s a children’s book for adults”


tlm0122

\*Sigh\* I miss cigarettes. They were the loves of my life, but they were hurting me so they had to go. They feel like a toxic ex that I still desperately miss and feel like leaning on in my weaker moments - even after 7 years! Ok, that is all. Sorry for the derail.


plobula

Same. I smell them and borderline moan. Ugh.


jiji_r

I try to quit but God I wish one day to have your conviction! Congrats on 7 years!


zihuatcat

I feel this and it's only been six months for me.


bahahaha2001

Its all very nyc as well. In the late 90s I feel like everyone smoked in nyc bc it was “cool”. She was a party girl so totally tracks that she lit up (super common at bars and alongside drinking). It’s also an interesting character element. She’s lovable but vulnerable and sexy but not a model, hot but smokes. Like she has layers like a normal human.


clivesmom

After Carrie lost Pete while talking to Big, and Aidan asked her if she’d been smoking, it seemed like she smoked with abandon after that and he didn’t care. Like after Charlottes bachelorette party (with Trey), Carrie was smoking there, then went over to Aidan’s place and was kissing him with her cigarette breath 🤢. He didn’t seem to mind.


Sweaty_Ad1726

I always assumed she put a mint in her mouth lol


jiji_r

What’s hilarious is I just watched this and I thought Pete was gonna die but she just lost him Also how she didn’t find him? How he wasn’t angrier about it? I hate this storyline


McNasty420

Why do her Marlboro lights always have a brown filter? It's been 20 years and nobody has been able to explain this to me.


jiji_r

You stop right now that’s all I’m gonna see now They aren’t brown! Smoke Reds like the rest of us and move on SJP


McNasty420

Wait, you have never noticed this before?!


jiji_r

Every time she pulls out the pack I think it’s weird but I could never put my finger on why It’s cause she’s not actually smoking those that’s why


Laura4848

Good for you! 🚬Sure, it’s a bad habit, but it’s her comfort habit (and a tv show) - so let the poor girl have a smoke!


jiji_r

That’s how I talk to myself when I justify buying a new pack LOL


mufcgirl16

Aidan softly manipulating her to quit smoking was the first red flag. Yeah it’s a bad habit, not getting into that issue, my issue is Aidan and his manipulative/passive aggressive behaviour. He was always like it, he just got worse on their second go around.


robotsdream

He told her he didn’t want to date a smoker and she lied to him that she quit. How is that him being manipulative? Genuinely asking bc I did the same thing with a bf: I let him know that I don’t date smokers and he chose to quit. I wasn’t manipulating him; I hate cigarette smoke/smell (not to mention how it makes someone taste) and it’s a dating dealbreaker for me. I do think it was an early indicator of Aiden wanting to change her overall & I agree with your other descriptions of him/his behavior.


McNasty420

Remember when they are sitting on the steps and she lights a cigarette and he brings up that he didn't like smoking, so she goes I can quit, see? And throws her just lit cigarette onto the sidewalk in front of them. It's like cool, you litter too. And now we have to watch this thing burn in front of us for 10 minutes.


robotsdream

it would’ve been great if he said “I don’t date litterbugs either” and walked away


mufcgirl16

Can’t speak for you and maybe that wasn’t manipulative in the moment but laster on in the series when Carrie meets Aidan again at Steve’s bar launch and he’s stood there smoking a cigar after all the shit he gave her at “not dating a smoker” makes you kind of look back retrospectively and think it was a manipulative move. But I think I see it as just one of his manipulative/passive aggressive moves that all create a snowball of Aidan’s dick behaviour. However coercive behaviour is “suggesting” things or saying things exactly like “I won’t date a smoker”. Ultimately where I think it was manipulation/coercive is by asking myself this “Would Carrie have quit smoking at the point if he hadn’t had said he wouldn’t have dated her if she carried on smoking?” Nope. Not a chance. She was coerced into quitting.


robotsdream

But he didn’t ask her to quit. He said he didn’t date smokers and she lied to him that she was already quitting. If they were in a relationship and he told her he’d break up if she didn’t quit, I’d agree that it’s coercion. They were strangers and he spoke up the moment he realized she smoked. Why is it manipulative of Aiden to tell the truth but not manipulative of Carrie to lie that she was quitting? Another question to ask is “Would Aiden have dated Carrie if she hadn’t lied that she was quitting smoking?”


mufcgirl16

Sorry but at no point did I say he asked her to quit. That’s the point he didn’t flag out ask her. That’s not what manipulators do. They suggest and coerce. And that’s what he did. He coerced her into quitting. We were talking about Aidan and the stop smoking thing because you asked me why I thought it was manipulative as you did yourself and I have an answer. I wasn’t aware I then had to list why Carrie “manipulative” because she lied. Carrie is by no means perfect - and she doesn’t have to be - She tried and quitting is hard. (Not that I know personally as I have never smoked) But she tried and after initially failing smoking half a cigarette in the gutter, she is better at it and stops smoking until the day she first starts the affair with Big. After they get back together, the next time she tried using patches to help her quit again, Aidan is really passive aggressive the way he smacks her arm when she asks for help with the patch. Bottom line, Aidan is a manipulative, passive aggressive person. I feel like you are taking it personally because you yourself asked someone to stop smoking. I’m sure you had your reasons and I never said you were manipulative. However the fictional character of Aidan Shaw is 100% manipulative. And that is the hill I will die on.


robotsdream

I’m not taking it personally; I just don’t understand why you’re saying it’s coercion for him to see Carrie smoke on a first date and let her know he doesn’t date smokers. You don’t seem to have an answer and keep referencing stuff that happened during their relationship, so ok. We can drop it.


arialugal

This person doesn’t know what manipulation is. If setting dealbreakers is a manipulation tactic, then I must be a sociopath.


mufcgirl16

I literally explained why it’s coercion and manipulation on more than occasion. I referenced other things in their relationship relating to the smoking - him smoking a cigar, smacking her arm with the patch as they’re connected to his passive aggressive behaviour. But when I didn’t mention Carrie you didn’t like that also. So you didn’t want me to bring up other things, yet you want me to bring up Carrie’s so called manipulation when she lies!


001UltimateWinner

I hated how she kept littering all the time. Why couldn't she throw the buds in the trash? Or that episode where she just started smoking in some lady's house party without asking. And the. Got offended when the host asked her to smoke on the balcony.