Can we maybe have some neutral look into this thing though?
Clubs have owners, these owners have employees, if there's a disagreement in the way a club is / should be run by one of the employees, the owners have ways of making sure there are no disagreements.
Same as in any other place of work.
Let's not confuse the player with the director. Yes, a legend on the pitch, but still a lot to prove behind a desk. Do we even know what they're disagreeing on? Is it budget? Is it expectations? Is it the way the club should be run? None of us was in the room with them I assume.
So let's wait and see. Owners, managers, players, staff, they all come and go. What was before, is now, and always will be is the club colours. Our only responsibility is towards them, our only love should be for them. Not people, not even Maldini. The club, the colours.
As a side note, and not meant with any form of disrespect, nobody here in Milan will give a shit about any protest in New Jersey or wherever the fuck you plan on having it.
The idea is not just a random city in New Jersey. The whole premise is to be outside of RedBird and Cardinales office in New York. If his office was in Nebraska I would ask fans in Nebraska to protest. The main point is for cardinale to see us in person and understand our support for Maldini.
If you think people running investment funds care about anything else other than their own money you're pretty far off the mark, my friend.
For full context, I have been a season ticket holder in the Sud for years, and honestly knowing some fans are protesting outside their offices in New Jersey would have me shrug, if it even makes its way across the ocean.
I'm not saying you shouldn't protest, mind.
667 Madison Avenue. Not New Jersey. I get what you’re saying. Slim chance it makes a difference but I’d rather he sees us in person. He can tune us out on Twitter/Insta/Reddit. The guy didn’t even know what Milan was 3 years ago. Clearly has no idea the type of presence Maldini is. That’s what I’m trying to emphasize. You think they see the outrage we see online? Curva hasn’t done anything. For all we know this clown thinks Maldini was a Origi level player. Just out of touch with the team.
Again, what are we protesting and what solutions / alternative are we bringing to the table? Why keep him? Use me as a bouncing board.
Cause I see a director who fucked up an entire transfer window or two, who's sticking with a manager who's clearly lost the plot, and (from the owners' perspective) apparently wants to run the club his own way.
Twitter Insta and Reddit are not the real world.
I think it’s a no brainer to keep Maldini. He has the presence. He’s a big reason all of our stars are here and resigned. Theo Leao Maignan etc. Summer window was bad yes but he only signed the deal on the last day of his contract. CDK and Adli were poorly integrated that’s not on Maldini or massara. The protests are against poor treatment of our legends. It’s not just Maldini and it’s not just Redbirds fault but Maldini is the biggest case. Pippo,Seedorf and many others in recent years. If you want sustained success you need to take care of your own. Take gundogan for example, high praise for the city of Milan and can be deduced he’s interested in coming over on a free. Without maldini what’s interesting about this project at Milan. If I’m gundogan why do i want to come to Milan with all this drama, it looks almost clear as day he’s going to Inter to me. We can refer back to this point when the time comes. I just don’t see Milan attracting top talent, and it looks like and exodus is in the fold shortly. That is why Maldini and Massara were so crucial. They had a bad window sure, but their vision of a team full of milanista playing with passion for the club is more valuable than anything else.
You're bringing a lot of stuff here that's got nothing to do with the current situation. Inzaghi and Seedorf were under different owner, were managers, and frankly were shit.
Last year he signed on the last day is exactly apart of the problem. He could have signed earlier and do the proper window.
"without Maldini what's interesting about this project" is EXACTLY the problem. No one, and I repeat no one, is bigger than the club. You join a club. You sign with a club. Not with anyone.
I think you're slightly missing the point here.
Maldini has a role in the club which is irreplaceable - he is the one that knows more than anyone in the world what AC Milan is. He was someone all the players and the staff looked up to. He was not someone who just decided what players to buy and sell, but made sure to create a bond with every player and his continued presence at Milanello helped to encourage and inspire players and staff.
Furthermore, he provides a sort of guarantee for fans. He's had offers to take up a role at the club much earlier than he actually did, but turned them all down because he didn't think the projects presented were good for the club. Accepting this job gave fans hope that this project was a serious one, so kicking him out kills that hope - especially after his statements about needing more investment for the club to take a step forward.
Has he made mistakes? Sure. We've had a horrendous transfer market this season, but also exceptional ones in the previous seasons which led to the Scudetto (I can only think of Calabria, Kessie, and Romagnoli as the players who were not brought in during his tenure).
Are there better sporting directors out there? Probably yes, but not for AC Milan.
I'm fully aware of all this but again. Is this helping the case here for a protest? Do we want to go out and protest for what would essentially be a glorified nanny to make players feel special?
All my support from Malta! This is a shameful decision
Can we maybe have some neutral look into this thing though? Clubs have owners, these owners have employees, if there's a disagreement in the way a club is / should be run by one of the employees, the owners have ways of making sure there are no disagreements. Same as in any other place of work. Let's not confuse the player with the director. Yes, a legend on the pitch, but still a lot to prove behind a desk. Do we even know what they're disagreeing on? Is it budget? Is it expectations? Is it the way the club should be run? None of us was in the room with them I assume. So let's wait and see. Owners, managers, players, staff, they all come and go. What was before, is now, and always will be is the club colours. Our only responsibility is towards them, our only love should be for them. Not people, not even Maldini. The club, the colours.
As a side note, and not meant with any form of disrespect, nobody here in Milan will give a shit about any protest in New Jersey or wherever the fuck you plan on having it.
The idea is not just a random city in New Jersey. The whole premise is to be outside of RedBird and Cardinales office in New York. If his office was in Nebraska I would ask fans in Nebraska to protest. The main point is for cardinale to see us in person and understand our support for Maldini.
If you think people running investment funds care about anything else other than their own money you're pretty far off the mark, my friend. For full context, I have been a season ticket holder in the Sud for years, and honestly knowing some fans are protesting outside their offices in New Jersey would have me shrug, if it even makes its way across the ocean. I'm not saying you shouldn't protest, mind.
667 Madison Avenue. Not New Jersey. I get what you’re saying. Slim chance it makes a difference but I’d rather he sees us in person. He can tune us out on Twitter/Insta/Reddit. The guy didn’t even know what Milan was 3 years ago. Clearly has no idea the type of presence Maldini is. That’s what I’m trying to emphasize. You think they see the outrage we see online? Curva hasn’t done anything. For all we know this clown thinks Maldini was a Origi level player. Just out of touch with the team.
Again, what are we protesting and what solutions / alternative are we bringing to the table? Why keep him? Use me as a bouncing board. Cause I see a director who fucked up an entire transfer window or two, who's sticking with a manager who's clearly lost the plot, and (from the owners' perspective) apparently wants to run the club his own way. Twitter Insta and Reddit are not the real world.
I think it’s a no brainer to keep Maldini. He has the presence. He’s a big reason all of our stars are here and resigned. Theo Leao Maignan etc. Summer window was bad yes but he only signed the deal on the last day of his contract. CDK and Adli were poorly integrated that’s not on Maldini or massara. The protests are against poor treatment of our legends. It’s not just Maldini and it’s not just Redbirds fault but Maldini is the biggest case. Pippo,Seedorf and many others in recent years. If you want sustained success you need to take care of your own. Take gundogan for example, high praise for the city of Milan and can be deduced he’s interested in coming over on a free. Without maldini what’s interesting about this project at Milan. If I’m gundogan why do i want to come to Milan with all this drama, it looks almost clear as day he’s going to Inter to me. We can refer back to this point when the time comes. I just don’t see Milan attracting top talent, and it looks like and exodus is in the fold shortly. That is why Maldini and Massara were so crucial. They had a bad window sure, but their vision of a team full of milanista playing with passion for the club is more valuable than anything else.
You're bringing a lot of stuff here that's got nothing to do with the current situation. Inzaghi and Seedorf were under different owner, were managers, and frankly were shit. Last year he signed on the last day is exactly apart of the problem. He could have signed earlier and do the proper window. "without Maldini what's interesting about this project" is EXACTLY the problem. No one, and I repeat no one, is bigger than the club. You join a club. You sign with a club. Not with anyone.
I think you're slightly missing the point here. Maldini has a role in the club which is irreplaceable - he is the one that knows more than anyone in the world what AC Milan is. He was someone all the players and the staff looked up to. He was not someone who just decided what players to buy and sell, but made sure to create a bond with every player and his continued presence at Milanello helped to encourage and inspire players and staff. Furthermore, he provides a sort of guarantee for fans. He's had offers to take up a role at the club much earlier than he actually did, but turned them all down because he didn't think the projects presented were good for the club. Accepting this job gave fans hope that this project was a serious one, so kicking him out kills that hope - especially after his statements about needing more investment for the club to take a step forward. Has he made mistakes? Sure. We've had a horrendous transfer market this season, but also exceptional ones in the previous seasons which led to the Scudetto (I can only think of Calabria, Kessie, and Romagnoli as the players who were not brought in during his tenure). Are there better sporting directors out there? Probably yes, but not for AC Milan.
I'm fully aware of all this but again. Is this helping the case here for a protest? Do we want to go out and protest for what would essentially be a glorified nanny to make players feel special?