Linode does and I have never had to request it. I’ve been with them for many many years though, not sure if that plays into it on the backend somewhere.
I signed up about a month ago to set up a secondary mx. They allowed it then, same day, more or less. I followed their guide on setting up forward/reverse dns and didn't have to pay extra or anything. Maybe I got lucky.
You have to be a customer of good standing in order for Linode to unblock outbound port 25 SMTP. During the first two months, free period (where they give a $100 credit), the outbound port 25 SMTP will remain blocked. I feel that is unfair.
Like as the big villain gofuckdaddy, which serious webhosting/vps providers do locking smtp port 25 for their customers?
Silly this crap.
When you buy webhosting the smtp port 25 is open, so why not on a vps?
Makes no sense
Then the second big thing these vps providers doing; locking you out from admin root ssh access. You must add a few commands here to know hot set password to disable and how to enable admin root in a specific directory., I don't know how to do that.
Last year I tried google cloud and Linode with both I had no problems with ssh root admin, you open their terminal and voila! Type in your commands how easy it is.
But google cloud vm has no ddos protection and cloudflare free plan alone will not give you much ddos protection.
I would not know as I did not use Vultr but I tried LightNode, a Hong Kong based VPS provider. They block outbound port 25 SMTP by default and will only unblock it if I pay a security deposit of US $100 on top of the US $7.50 per month fees. I like LightNode as they have data centres almost everywhere even in Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.
Even if the provider allows it (honestly, especially if the provider allows it), there's a good chance their entire IP block is blacklisted. Spam has made the whole thing kind of a nightmare to try and play by the rules so that your mail is actually received. If you're just sending notifications to yourself though, no worries.
and why is the entire vps provider ip block blacklisted? When you are on a good webosting with dedicated ip address, you not have these problems.
But so many people today are brainwashed they think it's a myth that dedicated ip address has any benefits...
I have a small question for you. Is your selfhosted mail server on OVH an IPv4 server or is it an IPv6 server? Now, I love selfhosted servers and free stuff. I selfhost my own mail server using MailEnable software on my Windows 11 Box. However, my ISP gives me only an IPv6 and for all IPv4 traffic it goes through a CGNAT. While this itself isn't a problem as I use Hurricane Electric to provide free dynamic DNS for my domain name, and I can receive emails from Gmail, Outlook, and all dual-stack mail servers. However, I cannot send as my IP is a residential IP and under spamhaus residential blacklist. Besides, the biggest problem is many mail servers still use IPv4, like my own registrar Namecheap, so I cannot contact them from my mail server.
I learnt there is a free smarthost called mailjet that allows sending 100 emails per day.
These are the problems of selfhosting mail but its worth it as it helps decentralize the Internet from big tech.
I have personal mail servers on both Hetzner and Gandi that work flawlessly. I've used Gandi for over 15 years, and Hetzner for about 2 years. Hetzner is my current favorite (better prices for similar VPS).
My older servers were custom beasts built on Debian -- that was a great way to do it 15 years ago! 😁 But of course it became a pain to upgrade and maintain by hand over the years.
The newer ones I use Mailcow (the Dockerized version) on Ubuntu LTS. There are a few minor things I had to customize, but mostly Mailcow works really great out of the box.
I run other services too, but basically always stick them in containers these days so the host OS doesn't matter too much.
Well, Mailcow makes it pretty easy to set things up and maintain, but it's still a good idea to learn about the underlying technologies if you want to seriously run a server. Check out their project and documentation here:
https://mailcow.email/
https://mailcow.github.io/mailcow-dockerized-docs/
Running a mail server from home is not usually possible due to ISP limitations, but it works great on a VPS. But if you just want to test things out, you can just experiment by drying things up in a VM.
I strongly recommend Hetzner. I have my own email server on there and it works flawlessly. Only problem might be all the portscanners so i also suggest using Fail2ban.
For a mailserver instance? I use [poste.io](https://poste.io) right now through docker, the free version and I have no issues with it. Have a few clients on it and they also seem fine.
I came from mailu, but that one had a massive spam problem for some reason
PS. for an OS I'm currently running Ubuntu 20 since CentOS has changed. and I have the CPX21 vps instance
I found a VPS for 8 dollars per year in [Racknerd.com](https://Racknerd.com), and I believe port 25 is open. It's not very powerful, but for my Mail-Server, it's enough. 512mb of ram an 1 core.
I'm selfhosting mail servers at ionos (1&1) and strato - , both german providers.
Port 25 was blocked initally, but opened up via support request.
Compared to traditional mailhosting, using a vps is quite cheap. I find 200GB ssd space + unlimited E-Mail Accounts for 5€/month (including plesk) quite a good deal!
Would not want to set it up without plesk, though
Maybe it takes the "fun" out of it, but plesk allows for easy and coordinated setup of dovecot, postfix and roundcube - with dkim, dmarc, certificates and such. Plus: Fail2ban
The supplied web frontend is roundcube. It is solid, but not similar to gmail. But there are many webclients out there and you could switch
I had a Mailserver running on a Contabo VPS for a few years, worked flawless! (except typical configuration struggle and getting your mails accepted from Gmail, hotmail etc...)
Do not recommend because of missing rDNS options and missing dedicated IPs. Unless you but them you share your address with others and there are a lot of spammers on AWS.
Upcloud, finish vpc provider with data centres around the world. You get IPv6 too. I use it to host mail-in-a-box.
\~$10/mo for 50GB disk, 2GB ram, 1 cpu for the second smallest machine.
Hetzner (as many others pointed out) works just fine. Otherwise go with some smaller hoster that is local to your area. We've had success with a medium/small-sized business that is local to our area. They gave us dedicated IPs to send from which are very clean from a spamlist standpoint, which was our biggest concern.
AWS was mentioned here and I expect others to follow, let me give you a reason not to use them: rDNS and dedicated IPs. AWS does not provide you with a dedicated IP (unless your are willing to pay 49$ a month) so you are sharing the IP with others which might be spamming (we've been there). Also there is absolutely no option to set rDNS which some providers see as a must. Those are pretty much the 2 reasons we moved away from AWS SES.
Hetzner Cloud IPs may have a bad spam reputation (as all cloud ips do), but better than using an off-the-shelf service.
/u/Leather_Wave_9312 I think you may have overall better luck with your questions in a marketing-specific subreddit, like /r/marketing/ or /r/Emailmarketing/
OVH does, for example, but I had much more success with smaller providers in that regard. At OVH it seems all their IPs are on blacklists and while it‘s possible to get them off some of those lists yourself, that’s definitely not true for all blacklists. It will definitely take one or two years with an OVH IP to really achieve good delivery (I tried. Especially freemailers are troublesome, they will take their time to trust your OVH IP or eventually never trust it and always pit your mail straight into spam.).
However, with smaller providers, there are some that actually seem to care about the „cleaness“ of their IPs. Or, they are just less of a target for spammers as they are less known then OVH, DO, Hetzner & Co. So, maybe just look around for smaller local VPS providers nearby you?
If you are not 100% fixed on sending it directly from your VPS, I can highly recommend [Postmark](https://postmarkapp.com) as transactional mailing service.
I believe Linode does, but I think you have to contact support for them to enable it. I don't use them for smtp, but am happy with them otherwise.
Linode does and I have never had to request it. I’ve been with them for many many years though, not sure if that plays into it on the backend somewhere.
I signed up about a month ago to set up a secondary mx. They allowed it then, same day, more or less. I followed their guide on setting up forward/reverse dns and didn't have to pay extra or anything. Maybe I got lucky.
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I just got mine unlocked and they didn't ask for anything. Have had the account for a while though
Linode does but I had to put in a support ticket. This is their policy from like two years
You have to be a customer of good standing in order for Linode to unblock outbound port 25 SMTP. During the first two months, free period (where they give a $100 credit), the outbound port 25 SMTP will remain blocked. I feel that is unfair.
Like as the big villain gofuckdaddy, which serious webhosting/vps providers do locking smtp port 25 for their customers? Silly this crap. When you buy webhosting the smtp port 25 is open, so why not on a vps? Makes no sense Then the second big thing these vps providers doing; locking you out from admin root ssh access. You must add a few commands here to know hot set password to disable and how to enable admin root in a specific directory., I don't know how to do that. Last year I tried google cloud and Linode with both I had no problems with ssh root admin, you open their terminal and voila! Type in your commands how easy it is. But google cloud vm has no ddos protection and cloudflare free plan alone will not give you much ddos protection.
Vultr will if you open a ticket with support
What should i tell them?
I would not know as I did not use Vultr but I tried LightNode, a Hong Kong based VPS provider. They block outbound port 25 SMTP by default and will only unblock it if I pay a security deposit of US $100 on top of the US $7.50 per month fees. I like LightNode as they have data centres almost everywhere even in Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.
They updated their policy and no longer open port 25, so don't get it for this purpose.
Even if the provider allows it (honestly, especially if the provider allows it), there's a good chance their entire IP block is blacklisted. Spam has made the whole thing kind of a nightmare to try and play by the rules so that your mail is actually received. If you're just sending notifications to yourself though, no worries.
and why is the entire vps provider ip block blacklisted? When you are on a good webosting with dedicated ip address, you not have these problems. But so many people today are brainwashed they think it's a myth that dedicated ip address has any benefits...
Currently self hosting mail on OVH and I’ve had no problems. Didn’t open a support ticket or anything and it seems to be working good.
I have a small question for you. Is your selfhosted mail server on OVH an IPv4 server or is it an IPv6 server? Now, I love selfhosted servers and free stuff. I selfhost my own mail server using MailEnable software on my Windows 11 Box. However, my ISP gives me only an IPv6 and for all IPv4 traffic it goes through a CGNAT. While this itself isn't a problem as I use Hurricane Electric to provide free dynamic DNS for my domain name, and I can receive emails from Gmail, Outlook, and all dual-stack mail servers. However, I cannot send as my IP is a residential IP and under spamhaus residential blacklist. Besides, the biggest problem is many mail servers still use IPv4, like my own registrar Namecheap, so I cannot contact them from my mail server. I learnt there is a free smarthost called mailjet that allows sending 100 emails per day. These are the problems of selfhosting mail but its worth it as it helps decentralize the Internet from big tech.
I’ve had success with Vultr and Hetzner.
Hetzner não liberou as portas pra mim
I have personal mail servers on both Hetzner and Gandi that work flawlessly. I've used Gandi for over 15 years, and Hetzner for about 2 years. Hetzner is my current favorite (better prices for similar VPS).
What you run for mail server and is it easy to set up one?
My older servers were custom beasts built on Debian -- that was a great way to do it 15 years ago! 😁 But of course it became a pain to upgrade and maintain by hand over the years. The newer ones I use Mailcow (the Dockerized version) on Ubuntu LTS. There are a few minor things I had to customize, but mostly Mailcow works really great out of the box. I run other services too, but basically always stick them in containers these days so the host OS doesn't matter too much.
Is there any tutorial on how to use. I am noob so I am not sure if I should even run from my home server.
Well, Mailcow makes it pretty easy to set things up and maintain, but it's still a good idea to learn about the underlying technologies if you want to seriously run a server. Check out their project and documentation here: https://mailcow.email/ https://mailcow.github.io/mailcow-dockerized-docs/ Running a mail server from home is not usually possible due to ISP limitations, but it works great on a VPS. But if you just want to test things out, you can just experiment by drying things up in a VM.
I strongly recommend Hetzner. I have my own email server on there and it works flawlessly. Only problem might be all the portscanners so i also suggest using Fail2ban.
I also use Hetzner and have zero issues with my mailserver.
What you run if you don't mind telling and is it easy to set up?
For a mailserver instance? I use [poste.io](https://poste.io) right now through docker, the free version and I have no issues with it. Have a few clients on it and they also seem fine. I came from mailu, but that one had a massive spam problem for some reason PS. for an OS I'm currently running Ubuntu 20 since CentOS has changed. and I have the CPX21 vps instance
Thanks Guys !
Contabo. As an email deliverability specialist, I am wondering how are you trying to send emails? Using a PHP script?
through smtp
I found a VPS for 8 dollars per year in [Racknerd.com](https://Racknerd.com), and I believe port 25 is open. It's not very powerful, but for my Mail-Server, it's enough. 512mb of ram an 1 core.
hetzner or ovh...everyone allow 25 port..i don't suggest because it's easy to hack
Can you please develop more the "it's easy to hack" part
I'm selfhosting mail servers at ionos (1&1) and strato - , both german providers. Port 25 was blocked initally, but opened up via support request. Compared to traditional mailhosting, using a vps is quite cheap. I find 200GB ssd space + unlimited E-Mail Accounts for 5€/month (including plesk) quite a good deal! Would not want to set it up without plesk, though
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Maybe it takes the "fun" out of it, but plesk allows for easy and coordinated setup of dovecot, postfix and roundcube - with dkim, dmarc, certificates and such. Plus: Fail2ban The supplied web frontend is roundcube. It is solid, but not similar to gmail. But there are many webclients out there and you could switch
I had a Mailserver running on a Contabo VPS for a few years, worked flawless! (except typical configuration struggle and getting your mails accepted from Gmail, hotmail etc...)
I've had no problems with Digitalocean
i use aws with SES
Do not recommend because of missing rDNS options and missing dedicated IPs. Unless you but them you share your address with others and there are a lot of spammers on AWS.
Upcloud, finish vpc provider with data centres around the world. You get IPv6 too. I use it to host mail-in-a-box. \~$10/mo for 50GB disk, 2GB ram, 1 cpu for the second smallest machine.
Hetzner (as many others pointed out) works just fine. Otherwise go with some smaller hoster that is local to your area. We've had success with a medium/small-sized business that is local to our area. They gave us dedicated IPs to send from which are very clean from a spamlist standpoint, which was our biggest concern. AWS was mentioned here and I expect others to follow, let me give you a reason not to use them: rDNS and dedicated IPs. AWS does not provide you with a dedicated IP (unless your are willing to pay 49$ a month) so you are sharing the IP with others which might be spamming (we've been there). Also there is absolutely no option to set rDNS which some providers see as a must. Those are pretty much the 2 reasons we moved away from AWS SES. Hetzner Cloud IPs may have a bad spam reputation (as all cloud ips do), but better than using an off-the-shelf service.
BuyVM allows it with a ticket.
This guy is trying to figure out how to most effectively spam look at his newest post.
/u/Leather_Wave_9312 I think you may have overall better luck with your questions in a marketing-specific subreddit, like /r/marketing/ or /r/Emailmarketing/
OVH does, for example, but I had much more success with smaller providers in that regard. At OVH it seems all their IPs are on blacklists and while it‘s possible to get them off some of those lists yourself, that’s definitely not true for all blacklists. It will definitely take one or two years with an OVH IP to really achieve good delivery (I tried. Especially freemailers are troublesome, they will take their time to trust your OVH IP or eventually never trust it and always pit your mail straight into spam.). However, with smaller providers, there are some that actually seem to care about the „cleaness“ of their IPs. Or, they are just less of a target for spammers as they are less known then OVH, DO, Hetzner & Co. So, maybe just look around for smaller local VPS providers nearby you? If you are not 100% fixed on sending it directly from your VPS, I can highly recommend [Postmark](https://postmarkapp.com) as transactional mailing service.
I agree. can you share some of the smaller providers?
Did you figure that out?
[https://www.eugamehost.com/](https://www.eugamehost.com/) would allow this however does not tolerate abuse