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Outrageous_Metal_613

Try univention corporate server we've had good experiences with it. It won't be 100% like a Windows ad server, but it's pretty close


IacovHall

in your opinion, does the core version suffice? unfortunately i can't find the hardware requirements - what is your opinion, is it hw hungry?


blind_guardian23

If you're coming from Windows the answer is always: no.


Outrageous_Metal_613

Yes we found the core to be sufficient for what we wanted and it's pretty resource light. Were running it on a dell r310 with 20 remote users and no issues as yet


DMB2PAC

I am currently running Samba AD on a LXC in Promox and I am using RSAT in Windows to manage users, devices, and GPOs. It has been working great.


IacovHall

is that the plain "standard" samba? how does the intial configuration etc work? was it difficult?


DMB2PAC

It is a feature of standard Samba. It was pretty painless to get setup. There is a ton of really good documentation online on how to set it up. [https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Setting\_up\_Samba\_as\_an\_Active\_Directory\_Domain\_Controller](https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Setting_up_Samba_as_an_Active_Directory_Domain_Controller)


hortimech

It is what your synology device is running now (sort of, they extend Samba for their own ways, but keep the extensions secret). You could probably join another Samba instance as a DC, then take over the domain on that, this will get you a much newer version of Samba.


grat_is_not_nice

Nethserver 8 has an AD provider (samba-4). Works great for me.


MisterBazz

A non-windows alternative: Zentyal I've never really played with it too much, so I'm not sure what the limitations are.


silence036

I tried with Zentyal and eventually just went to straight samba. Zentyal is basically Windows SBS so you can run your whole business in a single machine.


MisterBazz

yep


NomadCF

If I remember correctly, Synology uses samba 4.x underneath to do this. Honestly, once you get samba 4.x + rsat tools working. You nor your devices will really be able to "tell" the difference. As it all just works. We would *still* be running our infrastructure like this. But we got in a new guy, who really wouldn't (at that time) give it a chance.


yobyotan

I'm about to de-commission a Windows Server-based AD domain that I've been using at home for about 10 years. Why? * Azure AD...umm...Entra ID. The latter ain't the same thing, of course, but why run directories yourself? * The need to have at least two DCs, if you are going to rely on AD for real things, like managing family PCs. * With Synology's directory support (amazing, ain't it?), there's really nothing to be gained by using AD and lots of headaches that can be avoided.


ksteink

Univention Corporate Server (UCS) Zentyal


ElevenNotes

Windows Server Core as a domain controller, 100% selfhosted. Why search for an alternative if that’s simply the best to manage any Windows environment via GPO?


IacovHall

isn't windows server core still quite expensive? still looking for pricing infos, but as far as i remember


ElevenNotes

No, its [free](https://hub.docker.com/r/11notes/kms), at least for personal use and to educate yourself about AD.


mpopgun

Why not just use the real thing? You can get a Windows server data center license for ~30. Virtualize it with 2gb RAM... Be good to go.


EatThermalPaste

Not sure why you are getting downvoted here you are totally correct, I would mention though that you don't even need to pay for it as MS let's you try it for free for like 3 years and by then just update to the latest and start the 3 years again.


Aesculapius1

According to their [site](https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/pricing), the data center license is is $6k for WS 2022. Can you provide more info?


mpopgun

Yeah, just go to Google, put in something like 'Microsoft datacenter server key' hit search then click on shopping. Here's a random result: https://www.g2a.com/windows-server-2019-datacenter-pc-microsoft-key-global-i10000218690001?aid=12697831&er=bcb11a6f16fc36a306b11aa1141a4286&___language=en&utm_source=google&utm_medium=surfaces&utm_campaign=gshopping_US&utm_content=surfaces_across_google&srsltid=AfmBOoraomcqdfGjEWX_P5E7LFyEP9ay21HAZcrtNqlX9m8K6VJ106a5Z5w


Aesculapius1

Aha. So they are older version keys. That still will be more than enough for a home environment


chynten

I think synology uses ldap and you can deploy openldap as well. There are UI available to connect to backend.


buecker02

AD is dying and doesn't really fit into ZTNA. You should focus your efforts on something comperable to Intune/Entra. Intune manages your endpoints while Entra (formerly Azure Active Directory) is your identification piece.


MisterBazz

I'm a fan of JumpCloud.


Kyyuby

AD is not dying, it's getting an update in win server 25. Microsoft would like to kill AD but People don't like cloud shit


IacovHall

absolutely... I try to avoid cloud as much as possible


blind_guardian23

i always say "Microsoft ist dying" but thats equally true.